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Old 10-26-2009, 09:39 PM   #751
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Day 2 Voting History:

(536) Lathum votes Abe Sargent (AS 1)
(538) ntndeacon votes Abe Sargent (AS 2)
(541) EagleFan votes ntndeacon * invalid vote
(568) lerriuqs votes Abe Sargent (AS 3)
(569) Raiders Army votes ntndeacon (AS 3 ntn 1)
(622) Chief Rum votes ntndeacon (AS 3 ntn 2)
(628) Abe Sargent votes ntndeacon (AS 3 ntn 3)
(631) Coffee Warlord votes ntndeacon (ntn 4 AS 3)
(633) KWhit votes Coffee Warlord (ntn 4 AS 3 CW 1)
(639) hoopsguy votes Abe Sargent (ntn 4 AS 4 CW 1)
(650) MartinD votes Abe Sargent (AS 5 ntn 4 CW 1)
(651) The Jackal votes Abe Sargent (AS 6 ntn 4 CW 1)
(663) PurdueBrad votes ntndeacon (AS 6 ntn 5 CW 1)
(665) EagleFan votes Abe Sargent (AS 7 ntn 5 CW 1)
(666) J23 votes ntndeacon (AS 7 ntn 6 CW 1)
(677) JAG votes Abe Sargent (AS 8 ntn 6 CW 1)
(684) GoldenEagle votes ntndeacon (AS 8 ntn 7 CW 1)
(694) PurdueBrad unvotes ntndeacon, votes Abe Sargent (AS 9 ntn 6 CW 1)


Final vote:
Abe Sargent 9 - Lathum (536), ntndeacon (538), lerriuqs (568), hoopsguy (639), MartunD (650), The Jackal (651), EagleFan (665), JAG (677), PurdueBrad (694)
ntndeacon 6 - Raiders Army (569), Chief Rum (622), Abe Sargent (628), Coffee Warlord (631), J23 (666), GoldenEagle (684)
Coffee Warlord 1 - KWhit (633)
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:42 PM   #752
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JAG and The Jackal come off looking good, IMO.

GE, not so much. KWhit gets the WT(bleep) vote.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:43 PM   #753
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That's solely based on looking at this list, no consideration for Day One votes at all.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:43 PM   #754
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Whoa!

Great job, guys. I was way off on my thoughts about Abe. Glad you all didn't listen.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:45 PM   #755
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JAG and The Jackal come off looking good, IMO.

GE, not so much. KWhit gets the WT(bleep) vote.

True. I had myself convinced that Abe and NTN were both villagers and racked my brain trying to find somewhere else to go with my vote.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:48 PM   #756
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(73) Lathum votes Chief Rum (CR 1)
(79) Lathum unvotes Chief Rum, votes EagleFan (EF 1) * invalid vote
(87) Lathum unvoted EagleFan, votes Chief Rum (CR 1)
(88) EagleFan votes Raiders Army (CR 1, RA 1)
(96) Abe Sargent votes Lathum (CR 1, RA 1, Lathum 1)
(99) Abe Sargent unvotes Lathum (CR 1, RA 1)
(100) Abe Sargent votes Lathum (CR 1, RA, 1, Lathum 1)
(121) hoopsguy votes Abe Sargent (CR 1, RA 1, Lathum 1, AS 1)
(128) Abe Sargent unvotes Lathum, votes hoopsguy (CR 1, RA 1, AS 1, hoops 1)
(136) Coffee Warlord votes KWhit (CR 1, RA 1, AS 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1)
(140) JAG votes PurdueBrad (CR 1, RA 1, AS 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, PB 1)
(141) PurdueBrad votes Abe Sargent (AS 2, CR 1, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, PB 1)
(153) Chief Rum votes GoldenEagle (AS 2, CR 1, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, PB 1, GE 1)
(157) MartinD votes PurdueBrad (AS 2, PB 2, CR 1, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1)
(158) ntndeacon votes Raiders Army (AS 2, PB 2, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1)
(159) Raiders Army votes ntndeacon (AS 2, PB 2, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1)
(162) J23 votes PurdueBrad (PB 3, AS 2, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1)
(163) The Jackal votes Abe Sargent (PB 3, AS 3, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1)
(164) lerriuqs votes Raiders Army (PB 3, AS 3, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1)
(170) Chief Rum unvotes GoldenEagle, votes Abe Sargent (AS 4, PB 3, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(185) Danny votes PurdueBrad (AS 4, PB 4, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(192) Telle votes PurdueBrad (PB 5, AS 4, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(195) ntndeacon unvotes Raiders Army, votes PurdueBrad (PB 6, AS 4, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(198) Lathum unvotes Chief Rum, votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 5, RA 2, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(199) lerriuqs unvotes Raiders Army, votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 6, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(203) PurdueBrad unvotes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 5, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(210) GoldenEagle votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 6, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(224) PurdueBrad votes Danny (PB 6, AS 6, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1, Danny 1)
(229) Abe Sargent unvotes hoopsguy, votes Danny (PB 6, AS 6, Danny 2, RA 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(233) Lathum unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Danny (PB 6, AS 5, Danny 3, RA 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(256) Coffee Warlord unvotes KWhit, votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1, ntn 1)
(282) KWhit votes PurdueBrad (PB 7, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1, ntn 1)
(286) Raiders Army unvotes ntndeacon, votes PurdueBrad (PB 8, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1)
(288) PurdueBrad reveals as Shaggy
(290) Danny unvotes PurdueBrad (PB 7, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1)
(292) Danny votes Abe Sargent (PB 7, AS 7, Danny 3, RA 1)
(306) Raiders Army unvotes PurdueBrad (AS 7, PB 6, Danny 3, RA 1)
(307) ntndeacon unvotes PurdueBrad (AS 7, PB 5, Danny 3, RA 1)
(318) Raiders Army votes Abe Sargent (AS 8, PB 5, Danny 3, RA 1)
(324) J23 unvotes PurdueBrad (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 3, RA 1)
(344) PurdueBrad unvotes Danny (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 2, RA 1)
(346) PurdueBrad votes Telle (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 2, RA 1, Telle 1)
(354) ntndeacon votes KWhit (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 2, RA 1, Telle 1, KWhit 1)
(361) Danny unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle (AS 7, PB 4, Danny 2, Telle 2, RA 1, KWhit 1)
(364) Raiders Army unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 3, Danny 2, RA 1, KWhit 1)
(370) Abe Sargent unvotes Danny, votes Telle (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 4, Danny 1, RA 1, KWhit 1)
(372) Raiders Army unvotes Telle, votes ntndeacon (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 3, Danny 1, RA 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1)
(377) ntndeacon unvotes KWhit, votes Telle (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 4, Danny 1, RA 1, ntn 1)
(382) Raiders Army unvotes ntndeacon, votes Telle (AS 6, Telle 5, PB 4, Danny 1, RA 1)
(385) hoopsguy unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle (Telle 6, AS 5, PB 4, Danny 1, RA 1)
(387) Coffee Warlord unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle * after actual 8:59 mark, not counted
(389) deadline posted by Schmidty
(390) J23 votes Telle * vote late, not counted


Final vote count:
Telle 6 - PurdueBrad (346), Danny(361), Abe (370), ntndeacon (377), Raiders Army (382), hoopsguy (385)
Abe Sargent 5 - The Jackal (163), Chief Rum (170), Lerruiqs (199), GoldenEagle (210), Coffee Warlord (256)
PurdueBrad 4
- JAG (140), MartinD (157), Telle (192), KWhit (282)
Raiders Army 1 - EagleFan (88)
Danny 1 - Lathum (233)
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:48 PM   #757
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True. I had myself convinced that Abe and NTN were both villagers and racked my brain trying to find somewhere else to go with my vote.

Yeah, I have been there, although usually it's closer to deadline when I am just completely dissatisfied with the choices the village made.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:50 PM   #758
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We have ntn, RA and hoops as the remaining Telle voters. I think that needs explored a bit. IMHO
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:53 PM   #759
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To be fair, I voted Telle as well at the end. Or at least I tried to.
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:59 PM   #760
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We have ntn, RA and hoops as the remaining Telle voters. I think that needs explored a bit. IMHO

Another thing to consider is MartinD or KWhit (or myself, but I'm not considering that of course), because they were PB voters who weren't around when they needed a new candidate to prop up and prevent Abe from getting lynched day 1.

Nice work with getting day 1 and day 2 up so quickly. Minor quibble, there's a couple of PB's at the end that aren't blue'd (344 and 346 in day 1), and Abe isn't red on the final day 1 tally.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:00 PM   #761
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Another thing to consider is MartinD or KWhit (or myself, but I'm not considering that of course), because they were PB voters who weren't around when they needed a new candidate to prop up and prevent Abe from getting lynched day 1.

Nice work with getting day 1 and day 2 up so quickly. Minor quibble, there's a couple of PB's at the end that aren't blue'd (344 and 346 in day 1), and Abe isn't red on the final day 1 tally.

All that's it. BURN HIM!
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:04 PM   #762
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All that's it. BURN HIM!

No no, this isn't the Salem game.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:05 PM   #763
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Well, I went from not having much in the way of candidates to having a wealth of choices for tomorrow.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:10 PM   #764
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No no, this isn't the Salem game.

But there is witch in this game.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:23 PM   #765
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EF, can you explain to me again why NTN is a higher value proposition today than Raiders Army? If the goal is to set up a two man game involving Abe again (not sure I'm that interested, would prefer to either runaway on Abe or have two man race with two other participants, I think) then I want to understand the reasoning for candidate #2 a little better.

I certainly did not follow (or agree, if I did follow it correctly) your RA+NTN as co-wolves playing off each other logic. So I've pretty much discarded that piece of analysis. But further discussion on the merits of one vs the other are of interest to me.

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I'm fine with RA vs NTN, if I'm picking other candidates. The real question for me comes down to 'was Abe scanned last night?'

If so, the follow up question is 'how is that person playing it in the thread today?' I'm trying to figure out this latter part, while recognizing that it is far from a sure thing that the former happened. Heck, for all I know I was scanned last night and someone is keenly interested in seeing what I do since they know (well, almost given cunning) that I'm a villager.

Anyway, that is why I wanted to wait on acting today. I wanted to try and sniff out the seer.

If I thought that person was gunning for Abe, then I wanted to vote there and help him keep safe and sound as much as possible.

If I thought that person was not gunning for Abe, then I would want the showdown to involve two other people that don't include my perceived seer, Scooby, Shaggy, or me.

Who those two people are (as long as they are not one of the four listed above) is not hugely important; I don't feel like I have any kind of soul reads at the moment. But RA/NTN seems like an acceptable showdown if we are going to have a two man race.

If Abe is a wolf we already have the data about him in a 2-3 person race and it is high value ... we don't gain much today.

If Abe is a villager then we had all villagers in the race yesterday and there is not much to glean.

Therefore, I don't really want to see Abe in a runoff. Either we just lynch him or we look for a race between others today.

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My point here is that if I'm voting Abe it is not with the idea of having him in a runoff, apply pressure, see what we learn, or any other secondary motives that are part of putting votes on a candidate. It would be to try my hardest to get him lynched today because I'm fairly certain that we would be bagging a wolf.

If the idea behind a vote is any of those secondary reasons listed above, then I think there is more value in looking at two new candidates.

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Assuming you mean me, as the last vote to get in under the deadline, believe me that I'm very curious as to Abe's allegiance. I've spent more time thinking about this over the past 65 or so hours than is really healthy, given other time commitments. But I'm also trying to make the most reasoned vote that I can today with the info that I have.

Right now, that has me looking away from Abe for today's vote. And it will almost certainly have me looking away from him again tomorrow if there has not been a seer coming out and naming him for a second straight day.

Hoops' posts reek to me of a wolf who is trying to steer scrutiny away from Abe in the hopes that abe would be scanned, come back good then they can both go on their way.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:28 PM   #766
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I am leaning toward voting for hoops at the moment tomorrow.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:35 PM   #767
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Hoops' posts reek to me of a wolf who is trying to steer scrutiny away from Abe in the hopes that abe would be scanned, come back good then they can both go on their way.

Funny, the reason I ended up tying the vote 4-4 today (and not moving it) was because I thought you might be the seer based on your consistent status of wanting to get Abe today.

Over the course of the day there were three different people that I thought might have been the seer at different points.
1.) Coffee Warlord - seemed to be shying away from Abe earlier in the day
2.) Lathum - gung ho on getting Abe
3.) J23 - looks like wolves saw the same thing I did in comments, but they had knowledge that Abe was the cunning so they could interpret more clearly than I could

If you wanted to quote some of my posts from today, you could also have chosen the ones where I talked about not liking the group of earlier voters for NTN, where I said that I was not going to vote for NTN because I felt like he was being positioned as a patsy, or that the cautious voting today felt like the wolves were trying to figure out if it was worth sticking their necks out to defend Abe. I'm pretty sure all of those posts made it into the thread and I'll find them if asked to do so.

Last point - if I'm a wolf I don't put out a vote on Day #1 on the cunning wolf to introduce him as a candidate and then return to him on Day #2 to tie it up 4-4. There is zero reason to risk that role in this manner; no other wolf role is as valuable.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:36 PM   #768
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Also, why in the world would I have ever said anything about wanting Abe to be a runaway - that I would not want to pit him against another candidate? C'mon, I've got a lot of posts out there so I can understand there is material to pick and choose from to paint a picture, but the one Lathum is selling is really inconsistent with the body of my posts today.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:40 PM   #769
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Also, why in the world would I have ever said anything about wanting Abe to be a runaway - that I would not want to pit him against another candidate? C'mon, I've got a lot of posts out there so I can understand there is material to pick and choose from to paint a picture, but the one Lathum is selling is really inconsistent with the body of my posts today.

Because it puts distance between the 2 of you. I think you realized that either Abe was gonna be lynched today or that you will be an early scan target.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:46 PM   #770
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I would have fought tooth and nail to keep Abe alive to get scanned if I was a wolf, not end up sacrificing him on Day 2 after presenting him as a candidate on Day 1.

I think you know that as a wolf over the last couple of years I'm much more likely to play out in front because I'm an early scan candidate than to take the strategy of sacrificing one of my own (the cunning, no less) to build trust.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:00 PM   #771
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Guys I'm sure are good:
Me - duh
EagleFan - known role
PurdueBrad - uncountered claim, huge swing vote at end on Abe tonight to prevent potential wolf save

Guys I'm pretty sure are good:
Jackal - two votes on Abe that had meaning. Yesterday put Abe in 3-3 tie, today put him up 6-4.
Lerriuqs - tied up Abe yesterday 6-6, put early vote on him today.

Guys I lean towards as good:
Lathum - voting record is good, outside chance that he is doing what he is accusing me of doing with his votes. But hard to overlook post #198, where he puts Abe one vote off lead (6-5) yesterday.
Chief Rum - his vote yesterday was on Abe, making it 4-3-3 over PB and RA. Hard to see doing that to the cunning wolf, no matter the circumstances.

So that is half the players in the game that I won't give a hard look at all for the Day 3 vote.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:18 PM   #772
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You know what a rollercoaster it is to read all of that at once!. From the high of not only not dieing but Abe being the cunning wolf, to losing Velma as we did. I hope Fred is at least sometimes guarding Shaggy. Maybe he can tell us something.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:27 PM   #773
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I think we have a few wolves on the ropes right now and they are starting to "fight back".... looks in hoops' direction...
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:30 PM   #774
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:32 PM   #775
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EF, if that is what you guys are determined to do you'll find I don't have time to defend myself tomorrow. I don't have a role to claim, I think we are in strong enough position to survive my loss, but it will still be a poor vote and far from the logical one when looking at the data over the first two days.

If you have questions, ask them tonight. I cannot make any promises about availability tomorrow as I'm visiting a new client and have no idea if I'll be able to get to this site.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:51 PM   #776
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I may as well finish with my thoughts on the other players in the game, just in case people are bound and determined to lynch me. If/when you realize that it was a bad move then at least you will be able to look back at this post and #771 and realize they represent my actual thoughts as opposed to some kind of wolf manipulation.

JAG - slow start on analysis from a guy that I really enjoy reading when he is a villager. D1 vote on PB never moved, but his vote today made it 8-6 Abe. I think there are better choices than him and he probably should be in the bottom trust group in post #771.

MartinD - early vote yesterday put PB in 2-2 tie with Abe, today he broke a 4-4 tie between Abe/NTN. Again, I think he goes into bottom trust group. Would go higher if I had more posts to review or better long-term read.

GoldenEagle - vote yesterday put Abe in 6-6 tie with PB when I do not think he was going to be around near deadline to move it. Late vote today on wrong horse (moved NTN within one of Abe late, seemed to be asking someone to consider switching) pretty much offsets this. I've got him as a neutral.

KWhit - killer bad vote yesterday on PB, putting him up 7-6 on Abe. His vote today avoided both leading candidates. Leaning towards distrust, but not at the bottom of the pile since he could have actively backed Abe instead of going 3rd party.

NTN - his cause today is helped by being positioned against Abe, and that I really don't like the group that was championing him earlier today. As a result, I have him in a position of very, very slight trust.

Coffee Warlord - the guy whose voting pattern mirrored mine yesterday and who put NTN up 4-3 today. Once I became convinced he was not the seer earlier today, I was very interested to see how today played out with us on opposite candidates. He is going to be my vote today.

Raiders Army - vacated Abe late on D1, voted NTN today. His D1 play seems pretty erratic for a wolf, but he also seemed to suggest that "PB cleared Abe" earlier today. He is in my distrust group, probably right behind Coffee Warlord.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:51 PM   #777
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:43 AM   #778
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Vote ntn...

I had a bigger post that explained it but lost it and don't have time for another. I'm leaning towards ntn and RA based on Day 1 voting.

FTR, I probably won't be on here at all tomorrow before the next deadline.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:08 AM   #779
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Well that sucks.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:09 AM   #780
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We have ntn, RA and hoops as the remaining Telle voters. I think that needs explored a bit. IMHO

I agree. Based on the votes yesterday, I think I come off pretty badly. I think that really it should be either myself or hoops today.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:41 AM   #781
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Early take:

feel better about :
lerriuqs - day one vote that brought Abe into a tie with PB, can't see a wolf bringing their cunning into risk at that time of day.

GoldenEagle - His day one vote to bring Abe back into a tie after someone had unvoted Abe to put PB back in the lead. Why make that move if you are a wolf and Abe is the cunning?

Coffee Warlord - For the exact same reasons as above. I know that he had a late vote change to Telle (or attempted change) but why put Abe at risk with his earlier vote.

unsure:
PurdueBrad - I know the reveal has not been countered but I have to say that if you took that counter away and just looked at the voting records I would think wolf. When he was tied with Abe he unvoted Abe to give himself the lead. Unless there is a counter reveal I pretty much have to feel good about him though. At this point, if he did fake reveal and the real Shaggy is out there I would hope that he comes forward.


feeling worse about:
Raiders Army - I first read his votes much better on day one until I put the PB reveal into the mix, he had just given PB a decent lead right before the reveal and the was quick to move his vote off PB and onto Abe (but then floundered on that Abe fote going to ntn, back to Abe and then to Telle). Could be a wolf trying to look good by the quick change after the reveal and then trying to find a way to not vote for a fellow wolf.

hoops - put the first vote on Abe but then made the vote which saved Abe. Add the whole "let the seer scan Abe thing and not wanting to vote him out on day two" and it seems really suspicious. Why try so hard to get Abe scanned unless you know if helps your cause? Plus he keeps talking about peopple who voted for Abe (with the knowledge they were going to be there late to be able to switch). How many games have we been in where wolves actually set themselves up to have to make a late vote switch on day one to bring attention to themselves?
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:01 AM   #782
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EF, I'm not sure about your logic to put Coffee as trusted. He put a vote on ntn to make it 4-3 on D2, he switched his vote at deadline to try to save Abe. Those two actions look pretty suspicious to me.

I think the wolves wanted Abe to get some scrutiny on D1 so he would get scanned and 'cleared' by the cunning. To me, that makes hoops look suspicious as he put the first vote on Abe as well as the saving vote right at deadline (taking it from 6-5 Abe to 6-5 Telle). Frankly I think he's worthy of suspicion especially with some of his dialogue yesterday in light of Abe being the cunning, although I found myself agreeing with his trust list for what it's worth.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:02 AM   #783
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That should read "scanned and 'cleared' by the SEER" not cunning.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:02 AM   #784
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PB, were you enslutted again last night?
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:10 AM   #785
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PB, were you enslutted again last night?

Interesting question. So, I was out last night looking for a sub sandwich (yum!) and maybe some Scooby Snacks Jag, but I got a bit distracted. I saw KWhit wandering around and decided, based on his odd vote, that I would follow him, thinking that maybe the wolves would kill him as it would lead to little/no ability to do much vote analysis based on his weird vote.

As I rounded a corner, I saw a candlestick fly by and I ducked it. Zoinks that was close! Proud of myself, I chose to have a bite of my sub sandwich but didn't get to savor it because somebody threw an old, brown, worn shoe at me, conking me on the head and taking me down. So when I woke up, no more KWhit and, much more importantly, no more sandwich.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:15 AM   #786
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Werewolf - The Werewolf is a vicious Monster who can intimidate a player once a phase. This will stop whatever ability/action they are trying to perform. This doesn't work on Daphne or Don Knotts. May communicate with the other Monsters.

I was mildly disappointed/surprised at first until I re-read the WW role and saw that there was no restriction where they can't enslut me every night. Yeah, that's right, I don't want any of you enslutting me nightly, looks at Jackal and EF in particular because I don't want to end up with a Flyers tattoo.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:28 AM   #787
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Interesting question. So, I was out last night looking for a sub sandwich (yum!) and maybe some Scooby Snacks Jag, but I got a bit distracted. I saw KWhit wandering around and decided, based on his odd vote, that I would follow him, thinking that maybe the wolves would kill him as it would lead to little/no ability to do much vote analysis based on his weird vote.

As I rounded a corner, I saw a candlestick fly by and I ducked it. Zoinks that was close! Proud of myself, I chose to have a bite of my sub sandwich but didn't get to savor it because somebody threw an old, brown, worn shoe at me, conking me on the head and taking me down. So when I woke up, no more KWhit and, much more importantly, no more sandwich.

I hope when you came to you said "That really hurt! I'm gonna have a lump there, you idiot! Who throws a shoe? Honestly!"
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:33 AM   #788
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What's enslut mean?
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:35 AM   #789
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What's enslut mean?

It's a role title. Basically rather than spend time doing my job, I get caught by the slut or enslutted as it were. It would be a much more fun/interesting role if we were playing with a lot of hot chicks rather than a bunch of dudes and with the slut being a dirty, furry, smelly werewolf.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:36 AM   #790
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with the slut being a dirty, furry, smelly werewolf.

No offense to the werewolf of course. In fact, just so I know I didn't hurt your feelings, can you do me a favor and just go ahead post that you forgive me?





...waiting...waiting...waiting...It's so crazy, it just might work...waiting...
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:21 AM   #791
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I am not sold on the idea of PB being Shaggy either, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:45 AM   #792
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That's pushing it, in my opinion. It's been several days since that reveal. If it was bogus, someone would have posted by now.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:19 PM   #793
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CW, what are your reads on people at this point?
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:29 PM   #794
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Sorry I haven't been around much today. I'm being evaluated at work and then I have a meeting. I'll be on in the later afternoon.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:45 PM   #795
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I am not sold on the idea of PB being Shaggy either, but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Seriously, what do you and EF want, me to show up at your front door in brown pants, a green shirt, smoking a roach, with a five foot long submarine sandwich and a talking dog by my side?

Estoy Shaggy, prometo.

(I am Shaggy, I promise)
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:46 PM   #796
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I have to say, this sandwich that I found tasted great.

I almost thought about sharing it but only saw Shaggy and JAG online so I snuck off and had it myself. I really wasn't sure about sharing at that point..... I was hungry!!!!!!


Now back to the game. I want to find out more about what KWhit was doing. Maybe he'll bring me some scooby snacks and we'll talk about it over them.

If anyone else has scooby snacks feel free to let me know. I just love those things!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:48 PM   #797
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You're a hateful jerk face for taking my sandwich Scoobs! Come here, I got some Scooby Snacks for you, there two right under that box with a stick holding it up, go ahead, get both. JAG, KWhit, don't share with Scooby, he stole my sandwich.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:53 PM   #798
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Seriously, what do you and EF want, me to show up at your front door in brown pants, a green shirt, smoking a roach, with a five foot long submarine sandwich and a talking dog by my side?

Estoy Shaggy, prometo.

(I am Shaggy, I promise)

I believe you unless there is a believable counter. To be honest that would pretty much have to be someone saying they followed someone and found a wolf. Or if someone ends up lynched or NK'd and shows up as Shaggy.

It just seems convenient that you wanted to save Abe more than yourself on day one and have no results to speak of at this time and are still alive.

If there is a different real Shaggy out there, maybe wait until tomorrow to reveal, it will give you one more night of following. If you get lucky and find a wolf that will give us 2 counting PB and I would definitely consider that a plus for us.

Not trying to latch onto you, just pointing out a few doubts that I have.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:54 PM   #799
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You're a hateful jerk face for taking my sandwich Scoobs! Come here, I got some Scooby Snacks for you, there two right under that box with a stick holding it up, go ahead, get both. JAG, KWhit, don't share with Scooby, he stole my sandwich.

I'm Rorry Raggy!!!!!


But it tasted good!!!!!!

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Old 10-27-2009, 01:12 PM   #800
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It's a role title. Basically rather than spend time doing my job, I get caught by the slut or enslutted as it were. It would be a much more fun/interesting role if we were playing with a lot of hot chicks rather than a bunch of dudes and with the slut being a dirty, furry, smelly werewolf.

Okay. Thanks.
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