The Biden Presidency - 2020 - Page 16

RainMaker · 01-05-2021, 10:10 PM

With the remaining votes this looks to be over. Doubt it is even in the recount range after late mail in ballots are counted.

Where will Loeffler and Perdue get their stock picks from now?

lungs · 01-05-2021, 10:13 PM

If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

Galaril · 01-05-2021, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

Yeah he’s ares me as the swing vote. I could see him voting with the Rs at times. But Biden will likely be able to keep him on board with the Dems side.

Thomkal · 01-05-2021, 10:17 PM

The data analyst for The Economist magazine calling both races for the Dems

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

I started hating him long before that.

kingfc22 · 01-05-2021, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

The data analyst for The Economist magazine calling both races for the Dems

I wish we had a live cam of the Turtle.

Atocep · 01-05-2021, 10:20 PM

Kelly Loeffler is apparently going to speak soon. Prepare for the shenanigans.

lungs · 01-05-2021, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Yeah he’s ares me as the swing vote. I could see him voting with the Rs at times. But Biden will likely be able to keep him on board with the Dems side.

He won't defect, but he'll use his newfound power.

Any other Dem Senators that might be a bit wobbly?

Thomkal · 01-05-2021, 10:20 PM

DeKalb County expecting to release large vote count before 11pm

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Kelly Loeffler is apparently going to speak soon. Prepare for the shenanigans.

Lol, probably right before DeKalb drops its votes

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 10:24 PM

Folks, it's over. We have enough returns to project that both Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff will win their Senate runoffs in Georgia, giving Democrats control of the US Senate. — G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) January 6, 2021

molson · 01-05-2021, 10:24 PM

Stating the obvious, but this is such an important result if it holds, even aside from Senate control, especially if these Dems outperformed Biden. It's at least some evidence that the Republicans have gone to far and that they'll face push back from real voters. It's just hard for me to fathom how decent people aren't jumping ship in bigger numbers. I'll never understand it. But maybe at least a few are.

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 10:27 PM

The odds of Garland as Attorney General do seem to have dramatically increased in the past 3 hours. (Agreed that it's unclear why he'd want the job, but he would be make a superb AG). https://t.co/HZsggMehn4 — Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) January 6, 2021

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 10:30 PM

Crazy numbers:
Nonwhite voters in Georgia per preliminary exit polls: Black voters: November: Ossoff (D) +76 Jan runoff: Ossoff (D) +86 Hispanic voters: November: Ossoff (D) +9 Jan runoff: Ossoff (D) +30 — Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) January 6, 2021

bronconick · 01-05-2021, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

He won't defect, but he'll use his newfound power.

Any other Dem Senators that might be a bit wobbly?

Arizona's 2 are pretty conservative by Democratic standards.

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 10:34 PM

Georgia people: Monica Kaufman is doing election coverage on WSB radio. Never knew how much I'd miss her.

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 10:39 PM

171k votes from DeKalb to be uploaded soon.

Butter · 01-05-2021, 10:39 PM

Offshore odds have Warnock at -5000 and Ossoff at -2000 to win. Both huge favorites

BishopMVP · 01-05-2021, 10:42 PM

If Ossoff does make it 50, this was an interesting article from 2012 about how Joe Manchin & McConnell hate each other. politico.com/story/2012/02/football-feud-mcconnell-vs-manchin-072591 Hopefully their relationship hasn't improved since then!

miami_fan · 01-05-2021, 10:47 PM

So ummm anybody else switching over to Fox News to see if they called the election yet?

Lathum · 01-05-2021, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

So ummm anybody else switching over to Fox News to see if they called the election yet?

Literally just watching. It’s that horrible blond woman and they weren’t even covering the election. They had a law professor on to talk about Pences options tomorrow.

Butter · 01-05-2021, 10:50 PM

Ossoff odds drop to -450

Galaril · 01-05-2021, 10:52 PM

Gee I hope all these predictions are true and the D take them both but man the Ossoff one is going to be super close. They just said there is only 130k votes left for Dekalb county and not the 200k originally reported. Ossoff is down 113k . I am not seeing how he can catch up.

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

Gee I hope all these predictions are true and the D take them both but man the Ossoff one is going to be super close. They just said there is only 130k votes left for Dekalb county and not the 200k originally reported. Ossoff is down 113k . I am not seeing how he can catch up.

Then the SOS restated that it is definitely 171k+

Swaggs · 01-05-2021, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs

If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

He and Biden are both Catholic. I think they’ll have a good working relationship. He’s always going to vote pro-coal and pro-energy, but he’s fallen in line on most all of the important votes. He voted for Kavanaugh, but most people in the state think he may have lost his re-election if he had not. For A WV Democrat, he’s as good as it is going to get.

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

If Ossoff does make it 50, this was an interesting article from 2012 about how Joe Manchin & McConnell hate each other. politico.com/story/2012/02/football-feud-mcconnell-vs-manchin-072591 Hopefully their relationship hasn't improved since then!

There is a great poster/drawing of Manchin vs McConnell facing off in one of the bars near WVU’s stadium. There was a lot of ill will. The sad thing is that Louisville lost that battle, but won the war by getting into the ACC, which is a much better fit for WVU (with the geography and almost all their traditional rivals) than the Big 12.

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 10:59 PM

So the NYT needle has it right now at 95%+ for Warnock and 89% for Ossoff

kingfc22 · 01-05-2021, 10:59 PM

Now you have the orange clown and the Twitter trolls claiming De Kalb is waiting to see how many votes are needed before they release their count.

And the sheeple just eat it up.

Butter · 01-05-2021, 11:05 PM

Ossoff is down 113k. If he wins the DeKalb vote by the expected margin, he'll pick up 120k votes

JPhillips · 01-05-2021, 11:06 PM

If both Dems win, don't expect much in the way of legislation, but appointments will go through and the GOP won't be able to flood the media with bullshit investigations.

Jas_lov · 01-05-2021, 11:06 PM

Chatham county has gone to bed with 20k votes left to count. Nothing important going on.

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Chatham county has gone to bed with 20k votes left to count. Nothing important going on.

They live a more relax lifestyle down in Savannah.

Jas_lov · 01-05-2021, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

If both Dems win, don't expect much in the way of legislation, but appointments will go through and the GOP won't be able to flood the media with bullshit investigations.

Justice Breyer can retire. And could they do another round of stimulus if they offset it with tax increases on corps/rich? Maybe that could get 60 votes anyway but at least they'll be able to bring things like that up for a vote.

GrantDawg · 01-05-2021, 11:11 PM

Ossoff up to a 92% chance to win, according to our estimates. A lot of Perdue's path depends on tabulation errors--of the sort we briefly considered as a possibility when they erroneously said 130k were left. pic.twitter.com/jt0yE7BY2u — Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 6, 2021

Swaggs · 01-05-2021, 11:13 PM

Cohn has been really good about explaining the needle. Looks good for the democrats.

The fundamental GOP problem at this point: the Republican vote is basically exhausted. Ossoff favored to win what's left by 36 points (he needs to win by 26 to win) pic.twitter.com/ktxTrsXM1F
— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 6, 2021

Swaggs · 01-05-2021, 11:14 PM

Doh. Looks like GD beat me to punch.

kingfc22 · 01-05-2021, 11:20 PM

De Kalb just came in. Warlock is up by a big margin and Ossoff is in striking distance.

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:20 PM

Big chunk from DeKalb. Warnock pulls ahead, Ossoff 2k back. Still got more to go in DeKalb

Bartow also came in. Warnock up by 20k and Ossoff down by 20k

sterlingice · 01-05-2021, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

I wish we had a live cam of the Turtle.

He got to win no matter what. That die was cast on Election Day when it was close enough that the Dems will spend the next 2 years screwing things up. They can point to having a "majority", he gets to play resistance fighter for 2 years, and then they clean up in the midterms

SI

Atocep · 01-05-2021, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

He got to win no matter what. That die was cast on Election Day when it was close enough that the Dems will spend the next 2 years screwing things up. They can point to having a "majority", he gets to play resistance fighter for 2 years, and then they clean up in the midterms

SI

What will absolutely kill him, if this holds, is Dems will be able to get judges through.

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:31 PM

https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status...514970112?s=21

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:34 PM

A few mail Fulton votes and Ossoff is behind by only 3k now. Warnock up by 30k.

Mail in votes in Atlanta metro is started to come in

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:38 PM

Ossoff now only 500 votes back

Butter · 01-05-2021, 11:39 PM

Warnock projected winner by Decision Desk HQ.

Ossoff within 1000 votes.

Democrats waiting to see how many votes they need has really paid off

Danny · 01-05-2021, 11:41 PM

So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?

Atocep · 01-05-2021, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?

I would say most likely.

Lathum · 01-05-2021, 11:45 PM

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/sta...533137408?s=21

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/sta...533137408?s=21

Awesome!

Young Drachma · 01-05-2021, 11:50 PM

Welp.

Radii · 01-05-2021, 11:50 PM

The racist history of Georgia's runoff election system

Since we have a lot of history lovers here, I didn't know until today that runoff elections in the south primarily exist explicitly as a form of white supremacy and to suppress the black vote. This article suggests that in states like Georgia it can't really do that successfully anymore, but that it can in places like Alabama and Mississippi.

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A segregationist state congressman, Denmark Groover, fought for Georgia to subscribe to the system because of personal affliction after he’d previously lost an election due to what he called the “Negro bloc,” where the theory was Black voters could pool all their votes to one favored candidate, while white votes would be split among various candidates. Runoffs would ensure white candidates could beat the minority vote in a head-to-head majority contest, rather than a plurality contest with more candidates. Two decades later, Groover plainly admitted his reasoning for the system: “If you want to establish if I was racially prejudiced, I was,” he said. “If you want to establish that some of my political activity was racially motivated, it was.”

rjolley · 01-05-2021, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?

Even without his support, I'm shocked they seriously might lose.

01-05-2021, 10:17 PM	#754
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	The data analyst for The Economist magazine calling both races for the Dems __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-05-2021, 10:20 PM	#759
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	DeKalb County expecting to release large vote count before 11pm __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-05-2021, 10:24 PM	#762
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Stating the obvious, but this is such an important result if it holds, even aside from Senate control, especially if these Dems outperformed Biden. It's at least some evidence that the Republicans have gone to far and that they'll face push back from real voters. It's just hard for me to fathom how decent people aren't jumping ship in bigger numbers. I'll never understand it. But maybe at least a few are. Last edited by molson : 01-05-2021 at 10:25 PM.

01-05-2021, 10:39 PM	#767
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	171k votes from DeKalb to be uploaded soon. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-05-2021, 10:39 PM	#768
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Offshore odds have Warnock at -5000 and Ossoff at -2000 to win. Both huge favorites __________________ My listening habits

01-05-2021, 10:10 PM	#751
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	With the remaining votes this looks to be over. Doubt it is even in the recount range after late mail in ballots are counted. Where will Loeffler and Perdue get their stock picks from now?

01-05-2021, 10:13 PM	#752
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

01-05-2021, 10:20 PM	#757
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Kelly Loeffler is apparently going to speak soon. Prepare for the shenanigans.

01-05-2021, 10:24 PM	#761
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	`Folks, it's over. We have enough returns to project that both Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff will win their Senate runoffs in Georgia, giving Democrats control of the US Senate. — G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) January 6, 2021`

01-05-2021, 10:27 PM	#763
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	`The odds of Garland as Attorney General do seem to have dramatically increased in the past 3 hours. (Agreed that it's unclear why he'd want the job, but he would be make a superb AG). https://t.co/HZsggMehn4 — Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) January 6, 2021`

01-05-2021, 10:30 PM	#764
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Crazy numbers: `Nonwhite voters in Georgia per preliminary exit polls: Black voters: November: Ossoff (D) +76 Jan runoff: Ossoff (D) +86 Hispanic voters: November: Ossoff (D) +9 Jan runoff: Ossoff (D) +30 — Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) January 6, 2021`

01-05-2021, 10:34 PM	#766
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Georgia people: Monica Kaufman is doing election coverage on WSB radio. Never knew how much I'd miss her.

01-05-2021, 10:42 PM	#769
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	If Ossoff does make it 50, this was an interesting article from 2012 about how Joe Manchin & McConnell hate each other. politico.com/story/2012/02/football-feud-mcconnell-vs-manchin-072591 Hopefully their relationship hasn't improved since then!

01-05-2021, 10:47 PM	#770
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	So ummm anybody else switching over to Fox News to see if they called the election yet? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

01-05-2021, 10:50 PM	#772
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Ossoff odds drop to -450 __________________ My listening habits

01-05-2021, 10:52 PM	#773
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Gee I hope all these predictions are true and the D take them both but man the Ossoff one is going to be super close. They just said there is only 130k votes left for Dekalb county and not the 200k originally reported. Ossoff is down 113k . I am not seeing how he can catch up.

01-05-2021, 10:59 PM	#776
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	So the NYT needle has it right now at 95%+ for Warnock and 89% for Ossoff __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-05-2021, 10:59 PM	#777
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Now you have the orange clown and the Twitter trolls claiming De Kalb is waiting to see how many votes are needed before they release their count. And the sheeple just eat it up. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-05-2021, 11:05 PM	#778
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Ossoff is down 113k. If he wins the DeKalb vote by the expected margin, he'll pick up 120k votes __________________ My listening habits

01-05-2021, 11:06 PM	#779
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	If both Dems win, don't expect much in the way of legislation, but appointments will go through and the GOP won't be able to flood the media with bullshit investigations. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-05-2021, 11:06 PM	#780
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Chatham county has gone to bed with 20k votes left to count. Nothing important going on.

01-05-2021, 11:11 PM	#783
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	`Ossoff up to a 92% chance to win, according to our estimates. A lot of Perdue's path depends on tabulation errors--of the sort we briefly considered as a possibility when they erroneously said 130k were left. pic.twitter.com/jt0yE7BY2u — Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 6, 2021`

01-05-2021, 11:13 PM	#784
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Cohn has been really good about explaining the needle. Looks good for the democrats. The fundamental GOP problem at this point: the Republican vote is basically exhausted. Ossoff favored to win what's left by 36 points (he needs to win by 26 to win) pic.twitter.com/ktxTrsXM1F — Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 6, 2021 __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-05-2021, 11:14 PM	#785
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Doh. Looks like GD beat me to punch. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-05-2021, 11:20 PM	#786
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	De Kalb just came in. Warlock is up by a big margin and Ossoff is in striking distance. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-05-2021, 11:20 PM	#787
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Big chunk from DeKalb. Warnock pulls ahead, Ossoff 2k back. Still got more to go in DeKalb Bartow also came in. Warnock up by 20k and Ossoff down by 20k __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 01-05-2021 at 11:22 PM.

01-05-2021, 11:31 PM	#790
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status...514970112?s=21 __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-05-2021, 11:34 PM	#791
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	A few mail Fulton votes and Ossoff is behind by only 3k now. Warnock up by 30k. Mail in votes in Atlanta metro is started to come in __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-05-2021, 11:38 PM	#792
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Ossoff now only 500 votes back __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-05-2021, 11:39 PM	#793
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Warnock projected winner by Decision Desk HQ. Ossoff within 1000 votes. Democrats waiting to see how many votes they need has really paid off __________________ My listening habits

01-05-2021, 11:41 PM	#794
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?

01-05-2021, 11:45 PM	#796
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/sta...533137408?s=21

01-05-2021, 11:50 PM	#798
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Welp.

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