WW-Pokemon Day Three Deadline 4/15 10 PM

[EagleFan]

No sense in trying to figure it out now; unless the real seer is online as they should definitely reveal at this point as we would have caught 2 of the 3 wolves and be in great shape.

We'll see tomorrow where this goes.

[fontisian]

If I were scum, I'd bet that the martyr wouldn't get back in time to protect seer!Shoveler.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by fontisian

If I were scum, I'd bet that the martyr wouldn't get back in time to protect seer!Shoveler.

Risky, but I'd think either way Shoveler would be the target .. unless they did miss Zinto's BG clarification

[JAG]

I also think the seer should reveal and then I'll vote Shoveler. I'm pretty sure I know who the seer is.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

If the Shoveler reveal is real and we have no counters...

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)

Updated Autumn to mostly good. Reading back over the posts after the reveal I think it does lean him towards good.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

If the Shoveler reveal is true:

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)

Updated with my lean on Autumn.

[EagleFan]

If Shoveler reveal is countered (though we will be adding colors if we get a counter).

Originally Posted by EagleFan

If the Shoveler reveal is real and we have no counters...

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)

Originally Posted by EagleFan

If the Shoveler reveal is true:

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)

[EagleFan]

Sorry, cheek was still supposed to be green in that day one vote (in the counter scenario).

[EagleFan]

Good night all.

[EagleFan]

FTR; I will be away much of the day tomorrow. Still not feeling well but will be in the office tomorrow and my schedule looks crazy with meetings (ugh). Will try to get to the thread over my phone when I can but I hate posting a lot when on the phone.

[britrock88]

[path12]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Just tell her that you're playing a game with a 19 year old girl. I'm sure she'll take it really well.

She knows. She thinks this sounds like an awful game. However the direct yet warm ms.path loves few things more than talking to smart young women.

[path12]

VOTE SHOVELER

Hi, I'm Red.

N1 scan on EagleFan, conditional on Narcizo if EF got lynched. EF is good, you may note my quick turnaround on him right after D1.

N2 scan was Autumn, conditional to fontisian if Autumn got lynched. Autumn is good.

Shoveler, on the other hand is not me. So he must be Team Rocket.

[path12]

I can give you quotes:

Post #317

Originally Posted by path12

That's a weird reason then because everybody claims village!

Why are we voting Brit?

Anyone interested in switching to EF?

Post #318

Originally Posted by path12

I could go Cheeki but I'd rather go EF. There you go then,

VOTE EAGLEFAN

Post #358, soon after start of D2.

Originally Posted by path12

There was really no big push at the end. Two of the three were villagers. Might have been all three.

Post #361

Originally Posted by path12

I'm going to look in different directions.

VOTE TIMMAE

Post #373

Originally Posted by path12

I think the wolves made a mistake with the nightkill. I think they killed Brit because they figured that EF would be the cinch target for day 2. And if we don't lynch EF today I cannot imagine a situation where we would not know if he was a wolf by day 3.

So if I think that's what they think, I don't see the point in lynching EagleFan today.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by path12

She knows. She thinks this sounds like an awful game. However the direct yet warm ms.path loves few things more than talking to smart young women.

Vote Shoveler

[Vaimes]

Vote Shoveler

[Narcizo]

Unusual for me to be so accurate on day two. Or any day to be honest.

Vote Shoveler

No reason for Path to lie plus neither Shoveler nor the Matyr dying.

[Narcizo]

Ok for the porpoises of vote analysis I'm going to colour Path, Autumn and Eagle blue and Shoveler red because I'm hard pressed finding a way that Path isn't telling the truth. In fact I'll, appropriately enough, colour myself Blue as that's who I am, as will be proved tonight.

You won't believe how glad I am that Path didn't reveal after Shoveler last night, as I wouldn't have protected him then. (Zinto kindly allowed me to use conditional protect orders so I was protecting the first person to reveal as a seer - in retrospect I should have protected the last person to reveal). Anyway, no harm as it turned out.

[Narcizo]

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)

Grover it is then.

[Narcizo]

Accidentally marked Vaimes as blue for some reason but the point remains. My trust list of uncleared is something like

Fontisian
Vaimes
Jackal

Timmae
JAG

Grover

[JAG]

Well, I was wrong on my seer guess. But anyway,

Vote Shoveler

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by timmae

... Only Benny Hill is better.

Unvote Shoveler
Vote Timmae

[Narcizo]

Unvote Timmae
Vote Shoveler

[JAG]

Post 530 for Grover, switching from font to timmae when Raven had 3 and timmae had 2 doesn't look too good.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

Well I need to put my kid to bed and I dont want to make the mistake that was made a few games ago.

Vaimes is town, I scanned him last night. I am Red, the seer.

I've played this poorly. Tried to stay under the radar to keep myself from drawing a night kill and apparently that is making me look bad to everyone else. So there you have what little information I can provide at this point.

My intent tonight was to scan EF.

Originally Posted by path12

You weren't going to get a night kill. I'm not buying it.

In case anyone was to distrust the path reveal for some reason...

[JAG]

Originally Posted by path12

I do not buy the reveal but I will switch. I also think the fact you moved off him immediately even though you were next in voting speaks well for you as village.

UNVOTE SHOVELER
VOTE RAVEN

Originally Posted by path12

Vaimes flat out said when he claimed martyr that town shouldn't pay attention to it. Why scan him?

For good measure.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by path12

Because you are smart enough to know that the wolves messed up on the nightkill, the EF situation resolves itself without a lynch and the better value for the village is trying to suss out who was hiding where on what could very well be a three way village vote yesterday.

So for me your motivations for pushing EF today come into question.

This is also a fun post in retrospect and then font's curiosity at how it resolves itself without a lynch.

[JAG]

Grover's my only guess for the last wolf at this point after reading back. path had some good dialogue calling him out Day 2 and his vote on timmae yesterday looks fishy in retrospect.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by path12

VOTE SHOVELER

Hi, I'm Red.

N1 scan on EagleFan, conditional on Narcizo if EF got lynched. EF is good, you may note my quick turnaround on him right after D1.

N2 scan was Autumn, conditional to fontisian if Autumn got lynched. Autumn is good.

Shoveler, on the other hand is not me. So he must be Team Rocket.

Well this has to be the biggest bullshit counter claim I have ever seen. I scanned EF last night and yes he is town, but of course you knew that already.

Guess your plan is working for now. After I get lynched today and flip good you're hosed. Not sure the strategy for the counter, not going after me last night should have been good enough.

[Autumn]

Vote Shoveler

[timmae]

vote shoveler

Last nights actions push me in this direction. We will see who is lying quickly enough. The stooges never lied... Maybe these guys are the 3 cabelleros.

[Grover]

Oh man...

Who to believe.

I will be around all day and tonight for once. So... still catching up here.

[Grover]

vote shoveler

path seems more legitimate here. Whereas, Shoveler seems to have the hint of desperation of a wolf trying to save themselves.

[EagleFan]

Between the wolves not going after Shoveler and that a fake counter by path really does the wolves no good... And my initial read on Shoveler...

vote Shoveler

[Narcizo]

I ought to try and do some sort of analysis but I haven't really had time today and its difficult seeing past Grover. My worry is that this, barring Path's scan tonight, is all the information we're going to get. But with the number of cleared villagers I think the wolf would have to be the last possible person imaginable for us not to win. But wackier things have happened.

[timmae]

wow, 10 votes for shoveler this page alone. And then that vote on me because narc apparently doesn't have good taste in comedy shows. Anyways... reading back through the thread to try and verify who team shoveler may be and who team path may be.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

I'll be around all day. Wanted to get a post in last night and I didn't get a chance to take a shot at Cheeki for the last game, so yeah my vote is not real serious. But at this point he isn't giving me any real reason to move it.

As for reads, font seems active and engaged like I would expect (drawing from my huge experience pool of 3 games), going with good on her. Narc feels similar to me, good engagement & unbiased contribution, will expect the usual vote analysis after day 1 to feel more confident.

Everyone else is a ? at this point. Not sure about the eagle vote for font. But from what I have seen previously he can be very unpredictable, so I'm not going to read much into that yet.

There could be reads here. If shoveler flips evil then I have slight negative (evil) reads on narc, font and to a lesser extent EF.

[Shoveler]

I dont see myself talking my way out of this lynch. So if lynching me helps reveal Path's deceit, why not start the nightfall votes and just move the game forward?

[timmae]

Nightfalls are never a good idea for team good IMHO. I will not be nightfalling.

[Zinto]

As of Post 789

Shoveler 7-Path(763), Font(765), Vaimes(766), JAG(771), Narcizo(773), Grover(783), EagleFan(784)
EagleFan 1-Autumn(710)
Autumn 1-Timmae(728)

[Zinto]

Timmae and Autumn you didn't unvote your previous votes.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

I dont see myself talking my way out of this lynch. So if lynching me helps reveal Path's deceit, why not start the nightfall votes and just move the game forward?

I know you're essentially a sitting duck, but I don't think this is a good idea.

We need to continue fostering discussion about who could be the third wolf.

While I do think you are lying about being the seer, it's fairly obvious that EF was good, it would behoove us not to go down the nightfall road. There's plenty to discuss, even with your fate sealed.

Also, waiting 12 hours to die when you know it's going to happen really, really sucks. I'm sorry that we have to delay the inevitable.

[Autumn]

unvote eaglefan
vote shoveler

[path12]

Originally Posted by timmae

There could be reads here. If shoveler flips evil then I have slight negative (evil) reads on narc, font and to a lesser extent EF.

EF? I've cleared EF. Hell, even the fake seer has claimed to clear EF, though he didn't leave any bread crumbs as far as I can tell.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

I dont see myself talking my way out of this lynch. So if lynching me helps reveal Path's deceit, why not start the nightfall votes and just move the game forward?

We can talk it out if you like. I have more posts to reference, though it looks like JAG hit many of them.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by path12

EF? I've cleared EF. Hell, even the fake seer has claimed to clear EF, though he didn't leave any bread crumbs as far as I can tell.

Lol, yep. Obviously I havent reached your claim and views on my reread yet!

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Timmae and Autumn you didn't unvote your previous votes.

Right. My fault. Sorry boss!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

FTR; I will be away much of the day tomorrow. Still not feeling well but will be in the office tomorrow and my schedule looks crazy with meetings (ugh). Will try to get to the thread over my phone when I can but I hate posting a lot when on the phone.

sounds exactly like my yesterday and today, i'm inhaling cough drops

[The Jackal]

I had a feeling path was the seer as well

[The Jackal]

vote shoveler