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Old 09-16-2008, 07:44 PM   #751
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Got it.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:08 PM   #752
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:11 PM   #753
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I'm requesting another hint.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:13 PM   #754
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Official Hint #2: That skier needs to work some magic on the flags.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:21 PM   #755
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No arguments on the hints. Time is running out and we are struggling.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:22 PM   #756
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:22 PM   #757
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This says the only hint -- does that mean I can't request another here?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:23 PM   #758
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No.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:24 PM   #759
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Then I'm requesting another hint!
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:28 PM   #760
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By the time this mission is over, you guys will owe me money!

Official Hint #3: Shape up! You are clearly told what to try.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:29 PM   #761
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slow down
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:29 PM   #762
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:30 PM   #763
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Blah, I thought no further penalty meant we wouldn't have to pay 5000.

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Old 09-16-2008, 08:31 PM   #764
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Let's avoid hints. Brian, any ideas here?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:33 PM   #765
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A quick note: this used to be the last puzzle until I re-ordered them. It says "final screen" and that is incorrect. Just pretend it says "next screen." Don't want any false hopes here.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:33 PM   #766
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Oh man.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:34 PM   #767
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Don't worry, you're getting close.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:34 PM   #768
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Too late, my hopes were already false!
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:36 PM   #769
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I'm looking at both numbers and possible letters here.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:38 PM   #770
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I'm looking at both numbers and possible letters here.

neutralize
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:38 PM   #771
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:38 PM   #772
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I knew that was coming.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:38 PM   #773
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Had to leave myself open to it though...
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:40 PM   #774
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8X3HOY6Y
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:42 PM   #775
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BrianD has been neutralized. I wonder if that affected his final decision.

BrianD has posted the code that wins the pot for the team!

(except that should be a 0 not an O, bwahaha)

Seriously, though 0 or O either is fine. My count was 3 hints, so $35,000 is added to the group pot! I will post all the puzzles directly to the thread so everyone can see them with the solutions soon.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:44 PM   #776
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I was tempted to take a shot at the exemption since I hadn't been "officially" neutralized yet, but I worried that I'd blow the exemption and the money at the same time. That would have sucked.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:44 PM   #777
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:47 PM   #778
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The puzzle train was:

Solution: Crop Circles

Solution: Chicago

Solution: Earth and Moon

Solution: Key

Solution: Baboon

Solution: 1 to A (they are playing cards)

Solution: Bessie (the solution is in Morse Code on the side of the boat)
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Solution: Abracadabra

Solution: Angle

Solution: Eight

Solution: 2358
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:51 PM   #779
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I love the fact that the exemption code is the USS Enterprise registration number.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:56 PM   #780
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Mission #8: The Evader

We are coming down the home stretch of the game now. Only five
of you remain. Four true contestants, one impostor. The value of an
exemption increases each time a player is eliminated. No player has
received an exemption to this point, but that might change in our
next mission.

The next mission takes place in a maze. Throughout this maze are 8
green thumbprints. One player will be moving through the maze
trying to gather these thumbprints. This player is called the
evader. Also in this maze is one other player, called the hunter.
The hunter's job is simply to catch the evader before he gathers 5
of the 8 thumbprints. Assisting the hunter, we have the remaining
3 players, the spotters.

If the evader gathers 5 of the 8 thumbprints before being caught by
the hunter, then the evader gets an exemption. If the hunter catches
the evader, then the team earns $60,000.

The evader is given: a map of the maze including thumbprint
locations. Each turn he has a limited view of his actual surroundings.

The hunter is given: a limited view of his actual surroundings each
turn.

The spotters are given: a full map of the maze including thumbprint
locations and a chance at seeing the location of the evader each turn.

The spotters may assist the hunter in deciding on his moves without
using any graphical depictions. Words only.

The hunter moves slightly faster than the evader due to the evader
trying to stay hidden. The evader may move between 1 and 3 squares
per turn, while the hunter may move between 1 and 4 squares per turn.
Consequently, the evader can remain undetected 25% of the time in the
white zones of the map and 50% of the time in the yellow zones of the
map. The yellow zones are in areas of decreased visibility due to
distance from the central tower or shadows from the tower itself.

Based on your lists, you have voted that the player you would most like to win is BrianD. The player you think is not the mole is Passacaglia.

Therefore, the evader for this mission is BrianD and the hunter is Passacaglia. The other three players are the spotters, samifan24, path12, and Thomkal.

We will get started on this mission tomorrow when I will send out everything each player needs to get started.
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:58 PM   #781
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I don't get 2358. Someone walk me through that one? My answers were twice as long.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:00 PM   #782
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:12 PM   #783
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Ahh... I had

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Old 09-16-2008, 09:38 PM   #784
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Sweet, this sounds fun.
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:00 PM   #785
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congrats Brian and Pass for winning that one for us. Sorry I was of no help and sorry for the neutralize Pass.

Ah the dreaded Maze mission from many of the Mole shows I've seen. Should be fun. Hopefully i will do a better job for us on this one.
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:07 AM   #786
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congrats Brian and Pass for winning that one for us. Sorry I was of no help and sorry for the neutralize Pass.

Ah the dreaded Maze mission from many of the Mole shows I've seen. Should be fun. Hopefully i will do a better job for us on this one.

Brian actually won it for us -- I was only able to stick around long enough to neutralize him. I guess that helped, though, since without that, he would have just taken the exemption. Anyway, this mission sounds cool! Let's take an exemption away from him again!
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:05 AM   #787
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Brian actually won it for us -- I was only able to stick around long enough to neutralize him. I guess that helped, though, since without that, he would have just taken the exemption. Anyway, this mission sounds cool! Let's take an exemption away from him again!

I got the last puzzle, but was having trouble with the playing cards, the boat and the skiiers. Sadly we weren't all on at enough of the same times to make the neutralizing game as fun as it could have been. I guess it was effective enough to make sure money got into the pot.

As far as this next challenge goes...you guys are going to have to come and get me. I want that exemption.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:14 AM   #788
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Some notes about the upcoming mission:

1) The graphics will be sent via PM. Sorry if it gets a little spammy.
2) Communication between spotters and hunter is done in the thread. Remember the evader can see all of your communication.
3) Private messaging is forbidden during this mission. All communication is public.
4) The pot will be penalized if a spotter tries to use graphic representations of the positions. Definitely do not link to the graphics you were sent or otherwise try to graphically demonstrate concepts. Word descriptions only. Think of it as radio communication with the evader listening in.
5) You will be notified each time the evader picks up one of the green thumbprints. If he gets 5, game over.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:38 AM   #789
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Alright, the first items have been sent. The first move is up to the evader. Your moves must be N, S, E, or W. The colors on your maps are:

Red=Evader
Blue=Hunter
Black=Impassable wall
White=Open area(highly visible)
Yellow=Open area(low visibility)
Green=Thumbprints(evader's goals)

The evader's first roll is a 1 so he may move 1 space. After turn 1, your rolls will be included in your PMs instead of in public.

Oh yeah, it would be a good idea to send me your moves via PM, especially for the evader. The hunter may do either.

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Old 09-17-2008, 10:04 AM   #790
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Looks like I have a lot of walls around me.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:28 AM   #791
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He is northwest and you are pretty much in the center, there are a core of walls in the middle of the maze.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:29 AM   #792
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You guys aren't close to each other right now.

I don't want to say anything about fingerprints, but will just note that they are spread throughout.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:39 AM   #793
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Nice, path. I think I'd like to see the spotters guard the areas around the three thumbprints that are nearest to the NW corner. How big of an area are we dealing with, anyway?

Oh, and Brian...your ass is mine!
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:40 AM   #794
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Alright, the first items have been sent. The first move is up to the evader. Your moves must be N, S, E, or W. The colors on your maps are:

Red=Evader
Blue=Hunter
Black=Impassable wall
White=Open area(highly visible)
Yellow=Open area(low visibility)
Green=Thumbprints(evader's goals)

The evader's first roll is a 1 so he may move 1 space. After turn 1, your rolls will be included in your PMs instead of in public.

Oh yeah, it would be a good idea to send me your moves via PM, especially for the evader. The hunter may do either.

Do the spotters get a color?
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:54 AM   #795
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I don't think we're actually in there, I think we just see the overall grid.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:55 AM   #796
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How big of an area are we dealing with, anyway?


I don't know that I want to say right now. I think it's better for both of you not to know than have Brian know.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:56 AM   #797
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Oh, got it.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:56 AM   #798
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I don't know that I want to say right now. I think it's better for both of you not to know than have Brian know.

I believe he already has a full map.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:58 AM   #799
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I believe he already has a full map.

OK, missed that. 35 by 35.
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:01 AM   #800
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My understanding is that my map will be revealed in pieces...I'm assuming that meant I only get to see a radius around me. I haven't actually gotten a map yet and have informed our host of the fact. Because of this, it may be a bit before the first move.
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