FOFC Draft--The Greatest Music Band (Draft Has Started)

[Radii]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

also there's a great interview with jack white on marc marons wtf podcast.

I listened to this pretty recently myself, it was one of my favorite wtf pods.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Interested to see what happens if you guys go at it again.

[Buccaneer]

When and where do I give my final vote?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

not a big fan of itunes as a record label and sun records as a hip hop label is a goddamn travesty

[Buccaneer]

For what it's worth, here are my final standings and scores. Nice job everyone.

1 Cartman 3.8
2 Suicane75 3.7
3 Grover 3.5
Abe Sargent 3.4
larrymcg421 3.4
CrimsonFox 3.3
Karlifornia 3.1
Julio Riddols 2.8
NorvTurnerOverdr 2.8
britrock88 2.6

[thesloppy]

Can I stop holding my tongue on possible picks yet?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Can I stop holding my tongue on possible picks yet?

no. because we might do a part 2.

[thesloppy]

mmph.

[Buccaneer]

I think, apart from the Cover category which I never understood, most all of the legends were picked.

[cartman]

For those who never heard of Keith Moon's legendary toilet exploits:

Keith Moon, Bathroom Bomber

FTFA:

Moon’s reign of toilet terror ended only after his untimely death in 1978 at the age of 32, when he overdosed on the prescription medication he was taking to treat his alcoholism. It’s not clear exactly how many toilets he destroyed during his 11-year love affair with cherry bombs; one estimate places the value of all that destroyed porcelain at half a million dollars.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

mmph.

ZIP IT!

man there's so much great stuff here. roger waters writing for prince and michael jackson. roy orbison, jack white and afrika bambaataa. bob dylan writing for aretha. kurt cobain writing for johnny cash.

fucking eargasm

[Vince, Pt. II]

This is tough, there are a ton of great bands in there. I've got a toss-up between Karl, Suicane, Grover and NTO. Julio and Crimson are hard to argue against either though.

[Suicane75]

I'd like to hear peoples opinions on the bands as constructed even though we might do another one. It's not like we all don't know these guys are good. We're gonna be judged anyway, let's not short thrift this contest.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

I'd like to hear peoples opinions on the bands as constructed even though we might do another one. It's not like we all don't know these guys are good. We're gonna be judged anyway, let's not short thrift this contest.

Agree completely.

I don't think discussion of a potential draft should start until early next week.

I want to see all of us defend our selections and hear outside opinions from those who followed along first.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

and whoever chose Icky Thump...this is what you've put in my head for the last two days.

Is it too much if I point out that, once again, this is my guitarist?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Is it too much if I point out that, once again, this is my guitarist?

who?




i think we concede that jack is the neo of contemporary music

[Grover]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

who?




i think we concede that jack is the neo of contemporary music

As much as I loooooove Jack White, I can think of two 21st Century guitarists I'd take over him.

[Grover]

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

is there a lobbying portion? there's 3-4 that stick out and i'd like to hear a brief synopsis as to who you took and why.

[Suicane75]

I believe Chief will start a thread tomorrow for all that.

[CrimsonFox]

yup chief is going to post a thread and let us present our complete bands to the public and schtuff.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Grover

As much as I loooooove Jack White, I can think of two 21st Century guitarists I'd take over him.

I believe Dave Grohl was the only drummer from the 90's taken. Again, I like him, but he's not near the top for guys during that era.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I believe Dave Grohl was the only drummer from the 90's taken. Again, I like him, but he's not near the top for guys during that era.

There's a 90s drummer I want to take in part two of the draft, if we get there.

As far as voters go though, you can't argue with Grohl for name recognition. The awesome thing about Grohl is that you could have put him at drummer, lead singer, lead guitarist or songwriter.

Versatile pick.

[Matthean]

If those are two guitar picks you take over Jack White, I would PM you a better pick, but I don't want to give you an advantage. Bonamassa sounds like a guy who can play a technically sound and clean version of the blues, but it doesn't sound like he feels the blues at all.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Matthean

If those are two guitar picks you take over Jack White, I would PM you a better pick, but I don't want to give you an advantage. Bonamassa sounds like a guy who can play a technically sound and clean version of the blues, but it doesn't sound like he feels the blues at all.

He feels the blues. Seeing him live was an experience. He gets very, very into it.

Not to mention, he was opening for BB King at 12.

Trucks grew up with the Allman Bros. Band, his uncle was the drummer.

[Julio Riddols]

I had considered taking Orianthi for my lead guitarist. She has a pop version of her out there that is very clearly a packaged product, but then she has people like Santana and Steve Vai calling her amazing. After seeing her other stuff on youtube, I would consider her a likely candidate to be the best female guitarist ever at some point in her career, and maybe join the pantheon of great guitarists in history regardless of gender in the next 20 years. In the end I thought Frusciante fit the pop category and allowed me to move from Orianthi to a more well known name, and allowed me to get a much more recognizable female who fit the band better in Slick.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I had considered taking Orianthi for my lead guitarist. She has a pop version of her out there that is very clearly a packaged product, but then she has people like Santana and Steve Vai calling her amazing. After seeing her other stuff on youtube, I would consider her a likely candidate to be the best female guitarist ever at some point in her career, and maybe join the pantheon of great guitarists in history regardless of gender in the next 20 years. In the end I thought Frusciante fit the pop category and allowed me to move from Orianthi to a more well known name, and allowed me to get a much more recognizable female who fit the band better in Slick.

Her stuff is infectious... I don't usually get into the poppy stuff, but her guitar makes it worth listening to.

Marissa Paternoster is a woman with a ton of talent on guitar as well.

[Grover]

And for the re-draft, we should just kill country/hip hop, producer/cover and get on with it, 8 rounds of the leftovers.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

i've talked myself into and out of about 20 different covers. i still have 'pop' open so i could take just about anything but... idk. i think theme is important and want something that's fun AND fits the artists.

Totally agree. Build-a-band!

And yeah I scratched my head when you sent me the pick of Freebird, Pop.

[Carman Bulldog]

Originally Posted by Grover

He feels the blues. Seeing him live was an experience. He gets very, very into it.

Not to mention, he was opening for BB King at 12.

Trucks grew up with the Allman Bros. Band, his uncle was the drummer.

Speaking of the Allman Brothers, surprised to see that Duane Allman didn't go. However, it seems like guitar players are runningbacks, with so many good ones out there, from so many different genres.

I don't see the point in not being able to discuss what guys were left off the draft, and I don't think it will spoil anything for the next draft if we do, considering all of the following names below are well known.

With that said, surprised to not see Clapton go at all and he may arguably be the biggest name left out, along with fellow Yardbird Jeff Beck and the aforementioned Duane Allman. But there are tons of other big name big band lead guitarists left out there, from Keith Richards to Randy Rhoads, Kirk Hammett, Tom Morello, etc. and that doesn't even include the instrumental guys such as Santana, Joe Satriani, etc.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

With that said, surprised to not see Clapton go at all and he may arguably be the biggest name left out, along with fellow Yardbird Jeff Beck and the aforementioned Duane Allman. But there are tons of other big name big band lead guitarists left out there, from Keith Richards to Randy Rhoads, Kirk Hammett, Tom Morello, etc. and that doesn't even include the instrumental guys such as Santana, Joe Satriani, etc.

My biggest undrafted surprises in general were: Clapton, Morrison, Clemons and Bowie

[cartman]

I'm stunned no one took Billy Joel on keys.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'm stunned no one took Billy Joel on keys.

Strongly considered it, but in the end my common sense took over and said "Fuck Billy Joel."

But really, he'd have been a good songwriter pick too.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'm stunned no one took Billy Joel on keys.

i like anthonys song and allentown but couldn't forgive him for everything else.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Grover

...in the end my common sense took over and said "Fuck Billy Joel."

Attaboy.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'm stunned no one took Billy Joel on keys.

Well of course I thought about him but he in no way fit my band. Plus FOFC has a devoted "Billy Joel sucks" club here and I really did not want to get punched in the face repeatedly.

[CrimsonFox]

yeah no Bowie is a travesty.
No Clapton actually makes me feel good. I like Clapton but he's not the guitar god everyone says he is. Playing slow is nothing to write home about.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Well of course I thought about him

*punches CF in face one time*

[CrimsonFox]

OT - What makes me hate Billy Joel? - Front Office Football Central <- This right here was the reas---OUCH!!!!!!!! HEY!!!!!!! I DIDN'T PICK HIM OKAY?!?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

i like anthonys song and allentown but couldn't forgive him for everything else.

he's got a couple good bluesy songs in his middle period like Anthony, and Stiletto. His best album to me is 52nd Street and bits of Nylon Curtain. But really I listened to him in high school and later I found out what REAL rock was all about and have really never gone back. Most of his stuff is just fluff. And OMG I hate Allentown.

[CrimsonFox]

in short, Fuck Billy Joel. He doesn't deserve to be on this list. (But I kinda feel the same way about Elvis and Jackson)

[Passacaglia]

Speaking of keys, did anyone take Thelonious Monk?

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Speaking of keys, did anyone take Thelonious Monk?

Jazz musicians have vastly been ignored hence my comment about Peart being Top 3 for rock drummers and not Top 3 drummer.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

And OMG I hate Allentown.

i take it you didn't grow up in the rust belt

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Speaking of keys, did anyone take Thelonious Monk?

we really should have combined hip hop/r&b/jazz. would have opened things up more.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

i take it you didn't grow up in the rust belt

Don't even know what that is. But it's the pretentiousness of the song. And I remember when it came out everyone's like "Oh it's a true story. ZOMG it is so sweet. Look at Allentown now, that's our town!" and all that but it's just an ordinary pop song.

[Grover]

Billy Joel is in a list of artists for me that contains:

Bono
Dave Matthews
Billy Joe Armstrong


As people I would like to punch in the face, given the opportunity.

And you know what? Edge too, for playing the same three fucking chords since 1986 on every single track.

[CrimsonFox]

And I didn't even consider taking Chris Martin as the whole Werewolf crowd minus ZInto would kick my ass.

[CrimsonFox]

I like Green day a lot. Great punk pop group.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Don't even know what that is. But it's the pretentiousness of the song. And I remember when it came out everyone's like "Oh it's a true story. ZOMG it is so sweet. Look at Allentown now, that's our town!" and all that but it's just an ordinary pop song.

I guess you are gonna tell me that 'Downeaster Alexis' is the same!