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Old 07-10-2005, 12:06 AM   #801
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Looks like I will have to bring out all the points tomorrow to show why SirFozzie isn't a doctor on the side of the villagers.

What do you mean? Why wait until tomorrow to make points?
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:09 AM   #802
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SirFozzie, can you explain the doctor role as its described to you again so i dont have to search for it again? Do you automatically heal someone if you choose to doctor them?
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:09 AM   #803
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Looks like I will have to bring out all the points tomorrow to show why SirFozzie isn't a doctor on the side of the villagers. I was really hoping that other villagers would see the inconsistencies and point them out, but it looks like nobody even bothered to look. Sadly I think SirFozzie has got everyone so completely believing his lies that nobody is even looking to make sure their assumptions are correct. SirFozzie, you've played your mind games well. I guess you deserve a win.

Let me Translate that for the rest of us.

I was really hoping that other villagers would see the inconsistencies and point them out, but it looks like nobody even bothered to look.

Translates to:

I was hoping somebody would double think themselves into believing SirFozzie was a liar, so I could post after them and say. "I Saw the same thing. Don't the rest of you see it?

Sadly I think SirFozzie has got everyone so completely believing his lies that nobody is even looking to make sure their assumptions are correct.

Translates to:

I've tried every thing I can think of to hide the fact that I got caught lying about my role, and NO ONE BELIEVES ME! ARGHH!!! '

and finally..

SirFozzie, you've played your mind games well. I guess you deserve a win.

means... well. I think we'll let that stand. I appreciate the compliment, Brian, even though you were the only one I played the Mind Game against. The rest of em know the truth.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:11 AM   #804
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SirFozzie, can you explain the doctor role as its described to you again so i dont have to search for it again? Do you automatically heal someone if you choose to doctor them?

(paraphrasing because Peregrine stated copying is a no-no)

I pick someone. If they are attacked, I heal them so that they survive instead, however the next day they will be obviously injured. They will know that the Doctor healed them, however they will not know who the Doctor is. I have enough medical supplies to heal successfully twice.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:13 AM   #805
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Any bad stuff happens if they are healed? will their roles be affected?
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:14 AM   #806
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It does not say. I assume their roles stay the same, but you'd really have to ask Peregrine.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:19 AM   #807
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OK, I am gonna reveal my role in the next post, which if you are a doctor of good, will compel you to protect me if the game doesn't end with BrianD's lynching that day. If I am killed by a wolf that night people will know you are a wolf, because I will be prime wolf target #1 and it makes no sense not to protect me. And if you aren't the doctor but I don't die? I will still have a way of finding out if BrianD is the doctor or not thanks to my role. So you better be telling the truth or you are screwed regardless. Why am I revealing my role? I can't risk being wolf meat tomorrow night without revealing what I know has happened and what I know of the game. So this non action night seems like the best time to let the cat out of the bag.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:20 AM   #808
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Oh boy. Here we go!
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:22 AM   #809
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OK, I am gonna reveal my role in the next post, which if you are a doctor of good, will compel you to protect me if the game doesn't end with BrianD's lynching that day. If I am killed by a wolf that night people will know you are a wolf, because I will be prime wolf target #1 and it makes no sense not to protect me. And if you aren't the doctor but I don't die? I will still have a way of finding out if BrianD is the doctor or not thanks to my role. So you better be telling the truth or you are screwed regardless. Why am I revealing my role? I can't risk being wolf meat tomorrow night without revealing what I know has happened and what I know of the game. So this non action night seems like the best time to let the cat out of the bag.

Hell. if it takes sitting outside your door with my black bag, ready to go to win this game for the villagers? Fine by me.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:23 AM   #810
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Why am I revealing my role? I can't risk being wolf meat tomorrow night without revealing what I know has happened and what I know of the game. So this non action night seems like the best time to let the cat out of the bag.

Thank goodness. I am on the edge of my seat.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:24 AM   #811
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I assume by this line..

"And if you aren't the doctor but I don't die? I will still have a way of finding out if BrianD is the doctor or not thanks to my role."

Means you are the guy who can know the roles of the dead?
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:25 AM   #812
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I assume by this line..

"And if you aren't the doctor but I don't die? I will still have a way of finding out if BrianD is the doctor or not thanks to my role."

Means you are the guy who can know the roles of the dead?

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Old 07-10-2005, 12:27 AM   #813
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I am indeed a good villager, however, I am the Monk.
Ghosts are around and able to vote as long as I am alive. I have no control at all over them, however, so you can blame their silly behaviors on this board having whacky posters.

I am also able to view the dead's roles every night. I can only view someone who died in the last 24 hours of game time though, so basically every night I can view someone who was lynched during the day or last night. These are the roles I found out about:


Airhog - Knight

Eaglesfan - Villager (Perhaps I dont see what kind of villager? Or he could have been a regular basic villager, I dont know for sure)
Qwikshot - a member of the dark cultists (I dont know if this meant he was THE cultist or a member of the magicians. Either way I judged from the wording he was a bad guy to my faction.)

So yea, I doubt any evil that would be around after BrianD's lynching would want me alive after tomorrow knight, considering the ghosts can vote however they want. Yes indeed, Peregrine told me at the begining of the game, THERE ARE NO GHOST ROLES. The posters are just being silly. Sorry for blowing your cover silly ghosts. And there are more dead good guys(I think at least, I could be wrong) than bad guys, so having the ghosts ready to vote for good is powerful. And I can see who the dead are. So I imagine I must be prime wolf or magician meal #1 tomorrow night. You better be ready to pretect me!
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:27 AM   #814
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I assume by this line..

"And if you aren't the doctor but I don't die? I will still have a way of finding out if BrianD is the doctor or not thanks to my role."

Means you are the guy who can know the roles of the dead?

Thats a great role, and I was hoping we still had that guy with us.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:29 AM   #815
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Dola so what these means most for the current dynamic is I fully believe Airhog, he can vote as he wants. So unless hes screwing with the game, which I don't believe, he is a knight and the knights are knights
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:30 AM   #816
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If I remember correctly..

Qwikshot was the one who stabbed someone in the lynching, correct?

You have my word, I am sending Peregrine My Night action stating I will protect you.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:31 AM   #817
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:31 AM   #818
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I feel pretty good about my decision to come out. I was worried that I would view BrianD tomorrow night but die, and since ghosts would die with me, so would my revelation, and then others would go after the knights without my full knowledge of ghosts and airhog. But this way, if Sirfozzie is bad it will be exposed with me dead or not and my information is out there. Hopefully I made a good decision in coming out.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:32 AM   #819
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Qwikshot was stabbed by Barkeep. If Barkeep was the hunter, what does KWhit's proclamation of being a hunter mean? If Barkeep was the brutal wolf, why does he kill a magician? KWhit is now right behind Brian on the list of suspects.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:32 AM   #820
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:33 AM   #821
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:34 AM   #822
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Also, if Barkeep were the brutal wolf, I am sure he would have killed Taz instead of Qwik. KWhit cannot be the hunter.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:34 AM   #823
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Qwikshot was stabbed by Barkeep. If Barkeep was the hunter, what does KWhit's proclamation of being a hunter mean? If Barkeep was the brutal wolf, why does he kill a magician? KWhit is now right behind Brian on the list of suspects.

Just stands to reason, now.

One second, and I'll go back and repost the list..
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:35 AM   #824
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Qwikshot was stabbed by Barkeep. If Barkeep was the hunter, what does KWhit's proclamation of being a hunter mean? If Barkeep was the brutal wolf, why does he kill a magician? KWhit is now right behind Brian on the list of suspects.

If he was a Brutal Wolf, Barkeep might not have known who the magicians were when he picked his target. In fact, I'd wager that he probably only knew who the other wolves were at that point.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:38 AM   #825
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Fouts: Villager/The Brothers (by Fonzie)
Tigercat Villager/Monk (Villagerby dreams: Monk Role by confession)
Fonzie: Villager/The Brothers (by dreams, confirmed that Fonzie was his Brother)
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jeff061: Villager/??? Claims to have posted the same text that other dreamers received, I cannot verify as I did not see it because I did not personally view it. States he has a "minor role", but does not say what it is.
KWhit: "Villager"/??? Unable to confirm, posted details of the dream, but by that point, several had posted about it.. but not a high percentage of falsity. States he has a role that will kill someone if he is lynched or otherwise killed.
BrianD: "Villager"/"The Doctor" (Disputed claim by myself, highly believed to be a wolf)
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:40 AM   #826
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Looking at the exact wording, I am told that Qwik was: one of the Dark Pact cultists One makes me think there are more than one, meaning that he was a magician, but thats just my guess.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:41 AM   #827
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Kwhit: I THINK is claiming to be the Duke? (not sure.. he says he can kill someone if lynched or otherwise killed..)

jeff061: I think I know his role, or at least what I want his role to be.. but it's only good if its secret (it makes him a target just like myself and the Monk). Think about what roles haven't been brought up, and you might come across the one that I'm thinking of.
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:46 AM   #828
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Looking at it again. Guys. I THINK we're about to win. Can anyone fact check me here?

Unless I am pulling a con job (which I'm not).. we have.. confirmed good/Knights.

Myself (Doctor)
Fonzie (Brothers)
Fouts (Brothers)
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Desnudo (Knight)
Swaggs (Knight)

jeff061 (says he posted the whole thing, no idea on role)
Kwhit (Posted many details)
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:49 AM   #829
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:58 AM   #833
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Ok guys: Here's what I've comeup with.

Please Note: These descriptions were from werewolf II.

Brutal Wolf - One of the werewolves in the game is nastier than the others, a very tough customer. If this werewolf is lynched, he has the power to immediately kill one person before he is subdued.

Hunter - The hunter is a rather paranoid individual, but a skilled killer. If they are killed in the game, either by werewolves or lynched, they have the power to immediately kill one other player of their choice. Note that they don't know who the werewolves are, they just have to make their best guess.


KWhit is claiming that he's the Hunter. We saw Barkeep stab someone in the lynch mob (Qwikshot)

So. Barkeep was either the Brutal Wolf or the Hunter which means that KWhit is the other in that pair if he claims that ability (Note: There have been no other doubles except for the Lathum/Eaglesfan pair, but one was by sorcery, the other by wolf teeth)
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Old 07-10-2005, 12:59 AM   #834
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:03 AM   #835
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:04 AM   #836
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I think with barkeep, we have to think what facation would be most likely to have a player that would vote one way and kill another(and kill someone who didn't vote to lynch that player no less). I don't know about you guys, but that seems more likely to be a bad character than a good one. But, yea, it does question Kwhit's hunter claims some at least.
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:06 AM   #837
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I think with barkeep, we have to think what facation would be most likely to have a player that would vote one way and kill another(and kill someone who didn't vote to lynch that player no less). I don't know about you guys, but that seems more likely to be a bad character than a good one. But, yea, it does question Kwhit's hunter claims some at least.

Not really. If Barkeep is the hunter, and knows Taz is for the villagers (because of what Taz said), he goes looking for an evil person. If he is the brutal wolf, why doesn't he take out Taz, a known good person?
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Interesting role, Tigercat.

With the phrasing you used in your post, I now feel certain that you are a good character.
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Old 07-10-2005, 01:07 AM   #839
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Too bad my viewing roles were so limited, I really wanted to know what barkeep was, but after going back and forth, I decided that who he killed seemed more important than who he was. And I guess it was a little vanity too, cause I accused Qwik before Barkeep got to him too. Maybe Barkeep was the hunter and he was suspicious of Qwik like me, but like me he saw his vote couldn't mean anything?
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I do believe that KWhit is the hunter... he did post about the dreams.. WAIT A SECOND!

This is very speculative here. Could Brian be a dark seer/sorceror type? You notice that when I Caught him in the lie, that he kept trying to say I was protecting Kwhit? I think.. and yes, this is assuming a lot. that he KNEW that KWhit was the hunter, and was hoping for a double play. (We Lynch KWhit, Kwhit gets one of us in return) to cut the odds down.

It's a stretch.. but it does make sense, doesn't it?
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Honestly, I think KWhit is still among the list of suspects, but he could also be the Duke or another "new" role.
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So if we lynch Tiger, then the ghosts go away?
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Honestly, I think KWhit is still among the list of suspects, but he could also be the Duke or another "new" role.

I think he has to be one or the other, KWhit is either the Hunter.. or The Brutal Wolf.

No wolf would eat a Brutal Wolf, so when we lynched, he would kill.

Hunters kill when eaten OR lynched.

We've had doubles.. one was Barkeep/Qwikshot, which happened in the lynching.. so it could be either/or.

The other double was: Lathum/Eaglesfan. One wolfed, one.. burned from the inside out?

Doesn't sound very huntery/brutal wolfery does it?

So we have either a hunter or Brutal Wolf in Kwhit.
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A good sign, methinks.

Maybe he was just yelling cause he was outted as being an independent thinking maniac, instead of being a forced maniac.

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So if we lynch Tiger, then the ghosts go away?

Only their voting, you are stuck with them regardless methinks.
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I think he has to be one or the other, KWhit is either the Hunter.. or The Brutal Wolf.

No wolf would eat a Brutal Wolf, so when we lynched, he would kill.

Hunters kill when eaten OR lynched.

We've had doubles.. one was Barkeep/Qwikshot, which happened in the lynching.. so it could be either/or.

The other double was: Lathum/Eaglesfan. One wolfed, one.. burned from the inside out?

Doesn't sound very huntery/brutal wolfery does it?

So we have either a hunter or Brutal Wolf in Kwhit.

It wasn't Lathum/Eagles, I think it was Lathum/King. And King burned Lathum to a crisp making him the big magician type. So we still have the brutal wolf or hunter out there.
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