WW XCV: Land of the Role Reveals GAME OVER - Page 17

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 10:04 PM

Just got in and caught up. Interesting late movement, mission accomplished whoever said that was their goal

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:04 PM

Yesterday.

I should finish my thoughts before hitting "Submit Reply".

hoopsguy · 05-28-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Heh...it's okay, Schmidty knows I love him.

Besides, a better choice would have been ntndeacon (ZING!

)

At least you didn't say Bek

Now I've done it ...

Telle · 05-28-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Final?

Think this is right, as of Post #779:
Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776), Danny (782)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), NTN (775)

Close. Remove the Danny (605) vote from Tyrith.

PurdueBrad · 05-28-2009, 10:06 PM

Lots of people around, this should be interesting.

Racer · 05-28-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Just got in and caught up. Interesting late movement, mission accomplished whoever said that was their goal

I'd say credit goes to Dubb.

Racer · 05-28-2009, 10:10 PM

He's the one who got the ball rolling on USFL.

dubb93 · 05-28-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

At least you didn't say Bek

Now I've done it ...

So many places I could go with this, but I won't touch it.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Lots of people around, this should be interesting.

PB, any thoughts on the late vote movement?

I regret that Martin will have left without a chance to comment on why he made the vote non-decision he did. But I still think in the end, given the other choices at the moment, that this was the logical decision. He made the most suspicious move.

I just don't see a wolf going completely AWOL on a vote. Never say never, but hardly ever, I would think. Especially with communication abilities with the other wolves. But two of my more trusted, dubb and hoops, are both on USFL. :shurgs:

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

He's the one who got the ball rolling on USFL.

So Racer, any comment on my submission of you as my choice from the DT list, all things being equal?

Danny · 05-28-2009, 10:14 PM

Hoops is not on my more trusted list, I'd say he is mid level like most everyone right now.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

So many places I could go with this, but I won't touch it.

I probably stared at hoops' post a good minute or two trying to find a good and safe comeback, and I failed.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Hoops is not on my more trusted list, I'd say he is mid level like most everyone right now.

Well, when I say more, I mean "very slightly above neutral". I have an in-game reason, but it's fleeting. It's not role based. And if it was, I could still talk about it, because this is the Land of the Role Reveal.

Danny · 05-28-2009, 10:15 PM

I have to head home, but want to see the result before I do. Let's go BK!

PurdueBrad · 05-28-2009, 10:16 PM

Yeah CR- If Martin turns up bad, I would guess that we saw a wolf or two jump in to nail him (would look at the last two or three Martin D votes).

I also would like somewhere in the run that dubb was able to drive on USFL for a wolf, as they would've had to make a gut/instinct call and at least one probably jumped.

I would doubt USFL is a wolf but we've let a lot of people get away the last two or three games with missing votes that a wolf may finally have tried it (although I think everyone from previous games was good). I trust dubb, Hoops still throws me so I wouldn't mind seeing an eventual scan there by dubb.

I, like Hoops, was surprised that lerriuqs didn't get more of a look, particularly as a means to get more info on last night's vote. But he was around and active so I think he gets a pass there.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I have to head home, but want to see the result before I do. Let's go BK!

Man, you work late. I have been home since 5.

Racer · 05-28-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So Racer, any comment on my submission of you as my choice from the DT list, all things being equal?

Considering I was one of the middle votes, I'd probably be just as likely to be a wolf as Danny or Tyrith (I think those were the two other votes). I don't really feel I've done anything to gain or lose trust at this point so I don't really understand why you think I'm more likely then those two.

I also feel that lack of movement yesterday suggests it's very likely both Lerriuqs and DaddyTorgo are good guys.

Danny · 05-28-2009, 10:18 PM

It's class, I'm actually at my dad's house who lives right off campus and is where I park.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Yeah CR- If Martin turns up bad, I would guess that we saw a wolf or two jump in to nail him (would look at the last two or three Martin D votes).

I also would like somewhere in the run that dubb was able to drive on USFL for a wolf, as they would've had to make a gut/instinct call and at least one probably jumped.

I would doubt USFL is a wolf but we've let a lot of people get away the last two or three games with missing votes that a wolf may finally have tried it (although I think everyone from previous games was good). I trust dubb, Hoops still throws me so I wouldn't mind seeing an eventual scan there by dubb.

I, like Hoops, was surprised that lerriuqs didn't get more of a look, particularly as a means to get more info on last night's vote. But he was around and active so I think he gets a pass there.

I would hope hoops and squirrel are at or near the top of our respective seers' lists. The rodent for the info, hoops because, well, it's hoops.

lerriuqs · 05-28-2009, 10:19 PM

Interesting votes there...curious to see if I was right on Martin...

lerriuqs · 05-28-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I would hope hoops and squirrel are at or near the top of our respective seers' lists. The rodent for the info, hoops because, well, it's hoops.

I would suggest they don't waste a scan on me. But if it clears me, so be it. Then maybe I can help with a role.

Barkeep49 · 05-28-2009, 10:20 PM

You rouse Martin from his bed and inform him his presence can simply no longer be tolerated amongst your kind. "But I am your kind." It makes no difference to the crowd at that point. Yet another loyal V.I.L.L.A.G.E.R. had been forced to leave the convention

In better news you feel that dubb is the sort that can not only tell the truth but possibly spot the liars among you and so you make him your "seer".

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

Considering I was one of the middle votes, I'd probably be just as likely to be a wolf as Danny or Tyrith (I think those were the two other votes). I don't really feel I've done anything to gain or lose trust at this point so I don't really understand why you think I'm more likely then those two.

I also feel that lack of movement yesterday suggests it's very likely both Lerriuqs and DaddyTorgo are good guys.

Yeah, well, it was like I said at the time, more a process of elimination. It wasn't really anything you did overtly, but that the others did that made me inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt, thus leaving you. Not exactly a hard and fast evidentiary trail, I admit.

Danny · 05-28-2009, 10:21 PM

Damn, well I'm headed home now. Will post thoughts at that point.

lerriuqs · 05-28-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You rouse Martin from his bed and inform him his presence can simply no longer be tolerated amongst your kind. "But I am your kind." It makes no difference to the crowd at that point. Yet another loyal V.I.L.L.A.G.E.R. had been forced to leave the convention

In better news you feel that dubb is the sort that can not only tell the truth but possibly spot the liars among you and so you make him your "seer".

Guess not, though the vote changes should prove interesting fodder in the next day or so...

ntndeacon · 05-28-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Heh...it's okay, Schmidty knows I love him.

Besides, a better choice would have been ntndeacon (ZING!

)

a better choice indeed.

Tyrith · 05-28-2009, 10:22 PM

Sigh.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You rouse Martin from his bed and inform him his presence can simply no longer be tolerated amongst your kind. "But I am your kind." It makes no difference to the crowd at that point. Yet another loyal V.I.L.L.A.G.E.R. had been forced to leave the convention

In better news you feel that dubb is the sort that can not only tell the truth but possibly spot the liars among you and so you make him your "seer".

Well, crap. Knew it was a little too over the top (his nonvotes), but I didn't really feel we had much else to go on. Hindsight blah blah blah.

Martin's gonna be annoyed when he gets up. Sorry Martin.

hoopsguy · 05-28-2009, 10:24 PM

As usual, I'm fine with a scan or a no scan - whatever makes you comfortable.

PurdueBrad · 05-28-2009, 10:24 PM

Night actions ('cause the day sucked, maybe this will be better):

I will scan from my list

Dubb will scan from his list

I recommend that the 'other' seer scan CR for comparison

I will protect dubb

BG will protect me

Am I missing anything?

Racer · 05-28-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Guess not, though the vote changes should prove interesting fodder in the next day or so...

+1 on the vote changes (probably only if USFL is a wolf though).

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:25 PM

I think in retrospect, what's funny is that both Martin and USFL were of interest because they didn't vote, and I chose to go after the active one who chose not to vote, as opposed to the not voting via "unknown" (likely to be some form of apathy as the reason).

PurdueBrad · 05-28-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

REFLECTS CHANGES:

My list:

Schmidty
Dubb
Danny
USFLTecmo
Chief Rum
Lerriuqs
Tyrith

Dubb (or other believed seer list)

PurdueBrad
Hoopsguy
ntn
Martin
Lathum
Telle
Racer
saldana

reposting for dubb's and my convenience

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Night actions ('cause the day sucked, maybe this will be better):

I will scan from my list

Dubb will scan from his list

I recommend that the 'other' seer scan CR for comparison

I will protect dubb

BG will protect me

Am I missing anything?

I think you got it. I would definitely submit that the other seer (PB's counterpart, not dubb) scan me to test his results.

dubb93 · 05-28-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Night actions ('cause the day sucked, maybe this will be better):

I will scan from my list

Dubb will scan from his list

I recommend that the 'other' seer scan CR for comparison

I will protect dubb

BG will protect me

Am I missing anything?

Sounds good. My scan tonight will be hoops.

Barkeep49 · 05-28-2009, 10:29 PM

Heading to bed soon if anyone has any questions they want answered publicly or privately heading into the night actions.

PurdueBrad · 05-28-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I think you got it. I would definitely submit that the other seer (PB's counterpart, not dubb) scan me to test his results.

CR, thanks for backing this up. I feel 'pushy' when I recommend what other people do with their actions (even saying BG protect me) but I think it's a good plan.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

CR, thanks for backing this up. I feel 'pushy' when I recommend what other people do with their actions (even saying BG protect me) but I think it's a good plan.

Heh, well keep in mind, it is self-serving. I want to be cleared as much as anyone. Or at least we can determine the value of your scans.

That said, it's a sound plan as presented.

PurdueBrad · 05-28-2009, 10:34 PM

I'm out for the night likely. My plans are in. I will TRY to get on before deadline just to see if something needs changed.

Schmidty · 05-28-2009, 10:46 PM

Well, that sucks.

saldana · 05-28-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Well, that sucks.

what he said....i think that was the logical choice though...i agree with chief that its too bad he didnt have a chance to defend himself, but inactivity is often worse than bad activity in WW

saldana · 05-28-2009, 10:51 PM

on a more positive note, my druid made 25 tonight.

Chief Rum · 05-28-2009, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

what he said....i think that was the logical choice though...i agree with chief that its too bad he didnt have a chance to defend himself, but inactivity is often worse than bad activity in WW

To be fair, his inactivity directly related to him living overseas. I think what he most likely will need to consider for himself was the decision to make an active non-vote decision in his last post before leaving. He clearly underestimated the reaction that would bring.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Final

lerriuqs 6 – USFLTecmo (246), MartinD (356), saldana (362), Lathum (376), Hoops (394), Danny (425)
DaddyTorgo 6 – lerriuqs (250), Telle (304), Racer (312), EagleFan (383), Tyrith (411), Dubb (420)
MartinD 1 – Schmidty (306)
EagleFan 2 – ntndeacon (366), PurdueBrad (375)
Schmidty 1 - Chief Rum (378)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Final?

Think this is right, as of Post #779:
Lynch:
Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776), Danny (782)
Tyrith – Danny (605), Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), NTN (775)

first 2 days votes

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 11:14 PM

people who voted lynched/ voted villlagers both days- Lerriuqs, Tyrith, PB

Danny · 05-28-2009, 11:15 PM

I should be on that list too

Danny · 05-28-2009, 11:16 PM

lerriuqs 6 – USFLTecmo (246), MartinD (356), saldana (362), Lathum (376), Hoops (394), Telle (304)
DaddyTorgo 6 – lerriuqs (250), Racer (312), EagleFan (383), Tyrith (411), Dubb (420), Danny (425)
MartinD 1 – Schmidty (306)
EagleFan 2 – ntndeacon (366), PurdueBrad (375)
Schmidty 1 - Chief Rum (378)

Is what yesterdays vote should look like.

Racer · 05-28-2009, 11:17 PM

By the way, not sure if it's been said, but it might be a good idea for dubbs to scan USFL tonight. It could provide more insight into the late vote changes.

I think Dubbs doing it is a better idea since there is only a 50/50 chance (if PurdueBrad is telling the truth) that PB is the real seer.

Lathum · 05-28-2009, 11:18 PM

Thanks Danny, seems we have had trouble getting accurate vote counts posted lately.

Danny · 05-28-2009, 11:19 PM

I think Dubb scanning USFL is a good idea, though there are other choices which would be good too.

05-28-2009, 10:04 PM	#802
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Yesterday. I should finish my thoughts before hitting "Submit Reply". __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-28-2009, 10:25 PM	#832
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I think in retrospect, what's funny is that both Martin and USFL were of interest because they didn't vote, and I chose to go after the active one who chose not to vote, as opposed to the not voting via "unknown" (likely to be some form of apathy as the reason). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-28-2009, 10:46 PM	#840
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Well, that sucks. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

05-28-2009, 10:04 PM	#801
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Just got in and caught up. Interesting late movement, mission accomplished whoever said that was their goal

05-28-2009, 10:10 PM	#807
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	He's the one who got the ball rolling on USFL.

05-28-2009, 10:14 PM	#811
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Hoops is not on my more trusted list, I'd say he is mid level like most everyone right now.

05-28-2009, 10:15 PM	#814
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I have to head home, but want to see the result before I do. Let's go BK!

05-28-2009, 10:18 PM	#818
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	It's class, I'm actually at my dad's house who lives right off campus and is where I park.

05-28-2009, 10:19 PM	#820
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Interesting votes there...curious to see if I was right on Martin...

05-28-2009, 10:20 PM	#822
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	You rouse Martin from his bed and inform him his presence can simply no longer be tolerated amongst your kind. "But I am your kind." It makes no difference to the crowd at that point. Yet another loyal V.I.L.L.A.G.E.R. had been forced to leave the convention In better news you feel that dubb is the sort that can not only tell the truth but possibly spot the liars among you and so you make him your "seer".

05-28-2009, 10:21 PM	#824
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Damn, well I'm headed home now. Will post thoughts at that point.

05-28-2009, 10:22 PM	#827
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Sigh.

05-28-2009, 10:24 PM	#829
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	As usual, I'm fine with a scan or a no scan - whatever makes you comfortable.

05-28-2009, 10:29 PM	#836
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Heading to bed soon if anyone has any questions they want answered publicly or privately heading into the night actions.

05-28-2009, 10:51 PM	#842
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	on a more positive note, my druid made 25 tonight.

05-28-2009, 11:14 PM	#845
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	people who voted lynched/ voted villlagers both days- Lerriuqs, Tyrith, PB

05-28-2009, 11:15 PM	#846
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I should be on that list too

05-28-2009, 11:16 PM	#847
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	lerriuqs 6 – USFLTecmo (246), MartinD (356), saldana (362), Lathum (376), Hoops (394), Telle (304) DaddyTorgo 6 – lerriuqs (250), Racer (312), EagleFan (383), Tyrith (411), Dubb (420), Danny (425) MartinD 1 – Schmidty (306) EagleFan 2 – ntndeacon (366), PurdueBrad (375) Schmidty 1 - Chief Rum (378) Is what yesterdays vote should look like.

05-28-2009, 11:17 PM	#848
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	By the way, not sure if it's been said, but it might be a good idea for dubbs to scan USFL tonight. It could provide more insight into the late vote changes. I think Dubbs doing it is a better idea since there is only a 50/50 chance (if PurdueBrad is telling the truth) that PB is the real seer.

05-28-2009, 11:18 PM	#849
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Thanks Danny, seems we have had trouble getting accurate vote counts posted lately.

05-28-2009, 11:19 PM	#850
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think Dubb scanning USFL is a good idea, though there are other choices which would be good too.

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