06-01-2006, 06:50 PM | #801 |
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Yeah, I definately don't like the way we're reinforcing certain things, like hoops immortality. I fear this game is getting too much about the really good players, as it seems it's the average guy that keeps getting killed.
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06-01-2006, 06:50 PM | #802 |
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DOLA -- After you drop down from cronin, hoops, and blade you essentially have all active players in the 26-50 range. Not a huge range there and not something suggesting anyone is really being quiet at this stage. Quiet players should recieve scrutiny, but I'm failing to see anyone really trying to UTR here. There's quite a record for each player to be examined.
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06-01-2006, 06:53 PM | #804 |
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Today, if path turns up good, I think we narrow down to two huge suspects, schmidty and hoops. Hopefully someone will have some good information tomorrow morning.
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06-01-2006, 06:59 PM | #805 |
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Path is a better vote than hoops, that I'm sure of.
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06-01-2006, 07:00 PM | #806 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:02 PM | #807 | |
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Becuase i see no reason to trust hoopsguy other then lathum, who no one can vouch for, says to...its stunning to me at least why people trust him right now
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06-01-2006, 07:02 PM | #808 |
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Yeah Blade I'm glad to see you didn't stick with the quiet game strategy. Will give you a piece of advice: If you want to do it, don't announce it, just do it. If someone asks you a question answer it. When you vote give a short explanation. With the exception of you, no one really commented much on my style last game, though part of that was I had to post more then I wanted since I was pretty heavily under the gun.
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06-01-2006, 07:04 PM | #810 |
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I just dont see how a quiet game would be much fun. Maybe its because I dont get to play often, but when I do play, I want to be involved. Its alot more fun to me to try to play CSI: Werewolf.
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06-01-2006, 07:05 PM | #811 |
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I think if you look over Anxiety's posts, they look pretty suspicious. Tyrith should know this; he's avoided commenting on Anxiety. Both of them have shot up my list today.
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06-01-2006, 07:06 PM | #812 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:08 PM | #813 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:08 PM | #814 | |
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Is the last part of that new info? or have I completely missed that up till now? Is there someone with the ability to talk to people each night? |
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06-01-2006, 07:08 PM | #815 |
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dola, BK...my story is plausible with what happened last night. Hoops says his role had nothing to do with it. So either you believe my story or someone was converted, where as with hoops its just whatever
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06-01-2006, 07:09 PM | #816 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:10 PM | #817 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:10 PM | #818 | |
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Well, it's a little bit like a game of chicken, isn't it? But it's too early to swerve. At any rate, I'm not sure of hoops in the same way I'm sure of saldana and you. I think he's being a little shifty with his role, which is possibly in order to protect somebody else. But I think he's on our side. |
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06-01-2006, 07:11 PM | #819 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:12 PM | #821 |
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Ok so I want to play make believe. In my make believe Blade is right and hoops is not the bodyguard. What's his play coming out like this then?
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06-01-2006, 07:13 PM | #822 | |
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Secondly, and by the key, were the other wolfs comments. He was hunting the wizard, he was out with a purpose, and he saved me. It was quite clear in my PM(whether or not i conveyed that when i paraphrased well enough, i dont know)
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06-01-2006, 07:14 PM | #823 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:16 PM | #825 | |
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This might explain why that wolf hasn't come forward. If there is a hunter wolf, he may be vulnerable to night actions of the enemy - so, depending on how powerful he is, and how much the enemy knows about him, it may be wise not to come forward. |
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06-01-2006, 07:16 PM | #826 | |
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In my mind, its a fozzie game, and like cronin said about hoops protecting me and assuming i knew, if hes a bad guy he assumes either i or the bodyguard saw the wizard attack. Notice his timing, he revealed his role when he had 0 votes on himself and had no information about a bad guy to give.. In some games, people have no idea they were saved, so its possible they are hoping for a 1-1, give up henchman(or wizard, as we dont know if he can be killed right now by lynch) and get the bodyguard. That leaves us SOL late in the game for our seer, and they can basically attack with impunity whoever they want. It makes sense to me
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06-01-2006, 07:18 PM | #827 | |
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06-01-2006, 07:19 PM | #828 |
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I will find you wizard, and when i do, you shall die...thats the best paraphrase i can give to prove he was out with a purpose
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06-01-2006, 07:22 PM | #830 |
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That sounds like a hunter role. Maybe it's a combo hunter/seer role? Maybe he's the only one who can kill the wizard, if he finds him at night? (remember, Foz said a couple of times that the wiz would be hard to kill) And last night he was sniffing you out, and just happened to intervene in the attack?
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The first comments the wolf made seem to contradict that fact. along the lines of: No, not this time wizard, i will not allow you to destory my pack!
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I'm not sure how that contradicts it. Supposing the way Foz has it set up, if this character finds the wizard, he can kill him - but if he finds the target of the wizards, he just breaks up the attack. Isn't that about what that wolf might say? |
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06-01-2006, 07:30 PM | #834 |
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cronin, the reason I haven't been commenting about anxiety is because he hasn't been _doing_ anything. even if he is bad, which seems quite possible, there have to be at least two other baddies, and the only other person being as quiet as he is is ardent.
I think things will become clearer tonight. Our role players had better be out in full force. |
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06-01-2006, 07:31 PM | #836 |
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cronin, the reason I haven't been commenting about anxiety is because he hasn't been _doing_ anything. even if he is bad, which seems quite possible, there have to be at least two other baddies, and the only other person being as quiet as he is is ardent.
I think things will become clearer tonight. Our role players had better be out in full force. |
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06-01-2006, 07:37 PM | #838 |
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The problem is that while it might be an obvious kill, it will still be an obvious kill later, and he isn't screwing up our votes at the moment. We probably have a bad guy in the active player group and they are certainly fucking up our vote somehow, and that's the biggest threat we have.
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06-01-2006, 07:41 PM | #839 | |
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That's very weak. I know you're smarter than that. You and Anxiety are suspects 1a and 1b in my mind right now. |
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06-01-2006, 07:43 PM | #840 |
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Face it. The possibilities of what Blade's night happenings could be are basically limitless. We could make a case that Blade is lying, we could make a case that hoops is lying, we could make a case that they are both lying.
Frankly, I'm figuring hoops is on the up and up, for the single reason of...if he's not the bodyguard, where is the scream of the Real One? Yes, he might already be dead, but that's low odds. Blade I already think is kosher. Though he could very well have been converted last night, and this could be his attempt at both a cover story and an attempt to get rid of hoops. Hellif I know. |
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06-01-2006, 07:49 PM | #843 |
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I think I said this before, but I think hoops is being fishy with his role, for the purpose of protecting some other player's role that he has sniffed out. I don't actually know what hoop's role is; but I think he's been less than honest with us. Despite this, I think he is on our side.
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It's a Fozzie game. It's entirely possible. Lessee here.... Blade was NOT attacked last night. Hoops is the bodyguard, but was protecting someone else, and not on the scene. Fozzie likes to give some players night hints/events during his games. With that in mind, Blade got the tap for catching whatever the hell happened last night, possibly a successful conversion, and some action by a 3rd party, likely a leaderesque type. It's thin. But it could be argued. |
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06-01-2006, 07:52 PM | #846 |
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If everyone is so convinced that anxiety is the man, we have enough votes around to switch it over to him. I'm game, because the path lynch has seemed somewhat weak all day, but we've been stuck in it.
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06-01-2006, 07:54 PM | #847 | |
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I want to say another game Blade and hoops faced off like this and it ended up both of them were bad. Maybe I am remembering wrong. I still feel there are several people higher on my list than either of these to vote off. Right now current votes still are: Path - Alan T (560), Barkeep (602), Ardent (736), hoops (792), schmidty (794) Schmidty - Saldana (561) hoops - Blade (637), path (769), Tyrith (772) Cronin - Anxiety (676), Coffee Warlord (748) Anxiety - Cronin (687), Lathum (689) Thats 5 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 1 Right now two things I am worried about are: 1) Last minute movement that is not in our best interest. (with such a wide vote spread things could change quickly) 2) We arent really learning much about any of the leading candidates. |
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06-01-2006, 08:01 PM | #848 |
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I agree we'd be better off with 2 or 3 candidates. However I am not in much of a position to help here.
Cronin you've been around: Are you planning on switching if someone doesn't vote for Anxiety? If so what will determine how you switch? |
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I will likely be around til the deadline; I don't want a tie, so I will switch to prevent a tie. My trusted players are published, and I will save them with a vote if need be. My suspicious players right now are Anxiety, Tyrith, Schmidty, and maybe Ardent. Anxiety and Tyrith I am more suspicious of than the other two. |
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06-01-2006, 08:07 PM | #850 |
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Let's keep this discussion going. Hoops isn't happening tonight.
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