Werewolf LXXII: Chess (Checkmate!)

[PurdueBrad]

Hehe, nm, make that three.

[KWhit]

Based on cronin and path's vouching for Jackal's

[KWhit]

Premature submittal above. Let me try that again...

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

OK PB, that at least makes sense to me. Thanks for the answer. I'm not the right tree to bark up, but your line of thinking is at least understandable.

Yeah, I guess I get very wary when I see runs start for a couple reasons.

1- Wolves pile on and drive a vote
2- As villagers it gives us tunnel vision and makes us not look outside the 'favorite'.

I like moving my vote around, much more than I did on day one but it seems like you often get punished for doing so so I'm trying to restrain myself to only one (or worst case scenario two) unvotes per day. So believe me, my vote is not very permanant.

[KWhit]

Based on cronin and path's vouching for Jackal's position on the board, I now believe that Jackal is who he says he is.

Therefore, I really don't like CR's vote for Jackal. I don't have much else to go on, but this could be a wolf trying to get a Knight out of the game.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Yeah, I guess I get very wary when I see runs start for a couple reasons.

1- Wolves pile on and drive a vote
2- As villagers it gives us tunnel vision and makes us not look outside the 'favorite'.

I like moving my vote around, much more than I did on day one but it seems like you often get punished for doing so so I'm trying to restrain myself to only one (or worst case scenario two) unvotes per day. So believe me, my vote is not very permanant.

I'd agree. I tend to unvote too much myself as well. I decided today to take my time making my vote today so as to hopefully do it 0 or only once today.

[Neon_Chaos]

wow. i have no votes on me and i'm still on the list!

[KWhit]

And Jackal:

Sounds like st.cronin is near you. If I were you, I'd submit his name for a scan tonight if I were you.

[The Jackal]

I don't really get a strong wolf vibe from cronin, I believe he made a mistake.

CR not being able to be around much is dangerous, because he always provides good analysis.. I remember avoiding voting for him in the cruise game, but look what happened there. What he said about me made sense, but as I know I'm not a wolf, I think my vote goes with him for now.

Vote Chief Rum

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by KWhit

And Jackal:

Sounds like st.cronin is near you. If I were you, I'd submit his name for a scan tonight if I were you.

I've heard suggestions for Heinz and Cronin, I'll be scanning one of em, more likely cronin.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I've heard suggestions for Heinz and Cronin, I'll be scanning one of em, more likely cronin.

Is there any reason to think that Heinz is near you? If not, it will likely be a wasted scan, based on the percentages.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Is there any reason to think that Heinz is near you? If not, it will likely be a wasted scan, based on the percentages.

Right, which is why I'm leaning towards cronin, but Ill put in a conditional for heinz in case cronin gets lynched.

[st.cronin]

Jackal, I would suggest you scan Render.

[st.cronin]

I am not near you, a scan of me won't work.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Jackal, I would suggest you scan Render.

I'll take that into consideration.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I am not near you, a scan of me won't work.

Well, cripes. There was speculation that you are near me because of you knowing my position and what I can see. So either your partner told you this, or you're trying to avoid being scanned. I might have to scan you, man.

[Neon_Chaos]

I don't think CR would willingly put himself out like that and drive a vote for Jackal if he were a wolf. Seems like he made an assesment based on the info at hand. There were no clear candidates for the day yet.

If anything, the Wolves are probably laying low right now...considering they lost one of their numbers yesterday.

Here's to someone who's been unusually silent the past two days.

Vote Alan T

... for now

[st.cronin]

Actually I'm not entirely clear how this works - I may be able to move to a space where you can scan me. If I move to a spot you can see NOW, but before I move you had moved somewhere else, would you be able to scan me?

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Here's to someone who's been unusually silent the past two days.

Uh, I think that's because he's not playing.

Is that a first that a not playing person got a vote?

[st.cronin]

Neon, Alan T is not playing.

[PurdueBrad]

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Neon, Alan T is not playing.

Lol. You serious? Didn't he sub at the last minute?

[PurdueBrad]

It would be fun to start a run and lynch someone not in the game.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Actually I'm not entirely clear how this works - I may be able to move to a space where you can scan me. If I move to a spot you can see NOW, but before I move you had moved somewhere else, would you be able to scan me?

Pass told me that if I see the person I scan at any point during the night, I'll get a return.

[PurdueBrad]

Jackal, I say you scan Alan T too, just so we can figure out his allegiances!

[Neon_Chaos]

My bad then.
Now I don't know who to vote for.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Lol. You serious? Didn't he sub at the last minute?

I know what you're talking about, but Barkeep ended up taking that spot.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Is that a first that a not playing person got a vote?

actualy no

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

ok, escaped. not liking cronin.... could just be a mistake, but......

vote cronin

Escaped what?

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

My bad then.
Now I don't know who to vote for.

Do you need to unvote?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Pass told me that if I see the person I scan at any point during the night, I'll get a return.

Ok, well go ahead and try to scan me - I might be able to get someplace you can see me, but only if you don't move right away.

[ntndeacon]

I am leary of CR at this point but he usually has insightful analysis, so I am willing to give him apass at this stage.
Vote LathumThis is a vote and run I realize but it needs to be. got class.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Escaped what?

a payroll systems meeting.. It was awful.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

a payroll systems meeting.. It was awful.

Oh, wasn't sure if that was RL escape or some ww predicament you were referring to

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am leary of CR at this point but he usually has insightful analysis, so I am willing to give him apass at this stage.
Vote LathumThis is a vote and run I realize but it needs to be. got class.

Invalid vote, needs to be on one line per the rules.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, well go ahead and try to scan me - I might be able to get someplace you can see me, but only if you don't move right away.

I'd rather not telegraph my movement, hopefully it lines up.

[The Jackal]

I also don't want to delay moving for you to get out of the way though. I don't really have reason to trust or distrust, but if I was a wolf trying to get out of the way of a scan, I probably would've said that as well.

[The Jackal]

If anyone else has comments on this situation, or on recommended scans, feel free.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'd rather not telegraph my movement, hopefully it lines up.

ditto, also think you should consider somebody else. You know, the wolves might kill me, or something.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

ditto, also think you should consider somebody else. You know, the wolves might kill me, or something.

I'll have a conditional in no matter who I choose, learned my lesson last night.

[path12]

VOTE LATHUM

He is either a black pawn or a wolf. Here is my reasoning.

1) Lathum did not know how anyone would know where other pieces would be on the board.

2) The only way I can see in the rules that this would be the case would be if he was a pawn that did not move last turn.

3) I believe for various reasons that all white pawns moved last turn.

4) I am assuming that a wolf who makes a kill cannot also move on the board.

That either makes Lathum a black pawn who did not move, in which case my question is why on earth not? Or a wolf who made a kill last night, did not get to move, and therefore did not realize that PM's went out giving positions of pieces around one.

Airtight? Nope. Enough for a day 2 vote? Yep.

[mccollins]

Path, can you explain #4?

I don't have much wolfy to go on so I'm going to vote based on suspicions and colors

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Uh, I think that's because he's not playing.

Is that a first that a not playing person got a vote?

Not even close. I did it to TazFTW a long time ago and I've definitely seen it happen other times.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Not even close. I did it to TazFTW a long time ago and I've definitely seen it happen other times.

I actually figured it wasn't the first but wanted to hear the stories

[PurdueBrad]

Told you this was coming!
unvote JEHeinz

[b]vote Lathum[b]

Path laid out about as good an argument as I've seen.

[PurdueBrad]

CRAP!!!! STUPID NO EDIT!

vote Lathum

[Neon_Chaos]

I'm good with that.

Vote Lathum

[st.cronin]

Path, 1) actually makes me think Lathum is less likely to be a wolf. I assume the wolves have been building their own board, and are able to name several players locations.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Actually I'm not entirely clear how this works - I may be able to move to a space where you can scan me. If I move to a spot you can see NOW, but before I move you had moved somewhere else, would you be able to scan me?

I think you have to be in Jackal's field of view at the end of the turn. If Jackal stays you should be able to work out where you need to move in order to be seen by him. It's up to Jackal if he feels comfortable staying put though. Not sure I would.

I've been moving away from the view that Jackal is a wolf, it just seems unlikely that we would hit on two wolves on the first day. Cronin still looks suspicious to me but if there's a chance we can get a scan on him then I'm leaning towards giving him a day to prove his case with a scan.

I have to vote now but I'm really not sure where to go. I'm wary of voting for Chief, just because he's not here to reveal and given my usual time zone problems I don't like voting for people who can't be around. I'm going to work on putting something together.

[Neon_Chaos]

Unvote Alan T


Vote Lathum