Back to the Future (Night 12 Deadline: Tuesday 10 PM EST)

[Danny]

We need a win. I am Marty. I scanned autumn last night, he is a bully.

My scn day 2 I missed and day 3 I scanned chief rum

vote autumn

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Final Vote Totals

Chief Rum 6 - Autumn (624), The Jackal (669), britrock88 (714), KWhit (760), JAG (762), fontisian (727)
fontisian 4 - mauchow (637), DaddyTorgo (644), Zinto (686), Chief Rum (703), Danny (784)
britrock88 1 - Narcizo (600)

EF: You miscount this?

[The Jackal]

vote autumn

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by fontisian

EF: You miscount this?

That is the final count.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by Danny

We need a win. I am Marty. I scanned autumn last night, he is a bully.

My scn day 2 I missed and day 3 I scanned chief rum

vote autumn

Hah! Knew my gut couldn't be completely off.
Vote Autumn

Overconfident voting aside, the day 3 scan fits with Danny's reluctance to vote for Chief.

Danny: Did you not get a Day 1 scan, or did you just miss it? Also, why did you check Chief?

[The Jackal]

Sorry CR.

[Danny]

No day 1 scan cause it was present. I scanned chief cause I can never read him

[fontisian]

And mau is actually town. Maybe I am an idiot.

Don't like the line about "international terrorists" in EF's day start post.

[Danny]

I also missed day 1 too though liked I said I think I didn't get scan anyway

[Danny]

I autumn is biff I am done for hopefully he is not

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

That is the final count.

For some reason I only have four votes when five people (mauchow (637), DaddyTorgo (644), Zinto (686), Chief Rum (703), Danny (784)) are all voting for me.

[Autumn]

I am in bed and so can't post much. I assume Danny is Biff. He has the ability to search for me Marty but I suspect cannot outright kill me, at least not in future. Or I guess he may be one of buffs goons. I scanned Brit d2 I think it was, the jackal and zinto. Will post more in the morning from my computer.

[Zinto]

Vote Autumn

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I am in bed and so can't post much. I assume Danny is Biff. He has the ability to search for me Marty but I suspect cannot outright kill me, at least not in future. Or I guess he may be one of buffs goons. I scanned Brit d2 I think it was, the jackal and zinto. Will post more in the morning from my computer.

How do you know that?

[britrock88]

This is looking interesting... and bleak.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by JAG

Main thing for me in Chief's favor was him voting brit D1, first to point out that Brie's vote stuck out. Other than that, he's just been very conservative with votes and hasn't really looked for wolves from what he's posted.

If only...

[Danny]

So apparently autumn is claiming biff has the brutal ability and a Marty seer ability

[JAG]

Originally Posted by britrock88

If only...

Funny slip, my youngest's name is Brie.

Good luck village.

[britrock88]

Even a 12:2:2 start means we're at 5:2:2 now. Yikes.

[britrock88]

Gonna work up the vote tallies. FTR, I have not yet taken a side in the claim war.

[Danny]

Claim war? More like claim annhilation

[fontisian]

So, I was listening to pandora when Autumn made his counter claim, and "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who came on. It was glorious.

[britrock88]

D1

46 21:59 JAG votes Saldana (1)
48 22:06 Font votes Jackal (1)
56 00:45 Brit votes GE (1)
57 04:42 JAG unvotes Saldana (0), votes Narc (1)
62 06:26 Narc votes Jackal (2)
69 08:37 Autumn votes Schmidty (1)
75 09:56 Jackal votes Mau (1)
84 11:08 KWhit votes Murray (1)
90 11:30 JAG unvotes Narc (0), votes DT (1)
106 13:55 Saldana votes Mau (2)
111 14:28 Narc unvotes Jackal (1), votes Schmidty (2)
116 15:15 Brit unvotes GE (0), votes Schmidty (3)
127 17:12 Zinto votes Murray (2)
132 17:41 Chief votes Brit (1)
136 18:29 Murray votes Brit (2)
144 19:52 Font unvotes Jackal (0), votes Brit (3)
147 19:59 Zinto unvotes Murray (1), votes Mau (3)
161 20:36 GE votes Mau (4)
176 20:52 DT votes Schmidty (4)
178 20:54 Font unvotes Brit (2), votes Mau (5)
181 20:58 Autumn unvotes Schmidty (3), votes Mau (6)

Non-voters: Mau, Schmidty, Danny

Day 2 (-3)

#211 07:29 JAG votes GoldenEagle (1)
#229 09:46 Autumn votes KWhit (1)
#234 10:11 Jackal votes GoldenEagle (2)
#251 12:15 murra5y votes Brit (1)
#259 12:47 Narcizo votes Chief (1)
#267 13:29 Britrock votes Schmidty (1)
#273 14:39 Mau votes GoldenEagle (3)
#288 15:54 Narcizo unvotes Chief (0) votes Brit (2)
#296 16:08 Autumn unvotes KWhit (0) votes Jackal (1)
#304 16:58 Chief votes Schmidty (2)

#313 19:16 Zinto votes Jackal (2)
#314 19:17 GoldenEagle votes Britrock (3)
#326 20:45 saldana votes GoldenEagle (4)
#331 20:54 KWhit votes Britrock (4)
#332 21:06 Font votes GoldenEagle (5)
#334 21:07 mau unvotes GoldenEagle (4) votes Britrock (5)
#338 21:13 Autumn unvotes Jackal (1) votes GoldenEagle (5)
#353 21:46 DaddyTorgo votes GoldenEagle (6)
#360 21:52 mau unvotes Brit (4) votes GoldenEagle (7)

D3 (-2)

418 10:56 Jackal votes Murray (1)
426 11:47 Autumn votes Murray (2)
429 12:46 Narcizo votes Brit (1)
435 13:42 Mau votes Murray (3)
436 14:15 Murray votes Brit (2)
439 14:27 Brit votes Murray (4)
448 16:27 Mau unvotes Murray (3), votes Font (1)
450 18:07 Murray unvotes Brit (1), votes Danny (1)
461 18:49 DT votes Mau (1)
472 19:11 Zinto votes Brit (2)
484 19:25 Danny votes Brit (3)
489 19:47 Font votes Jackal (1)
493 19:53 Danny unvotes Brit (2), votes Jackal (2)
499 19:56 Chief votes Brit (3)
501 19:58 Danny unvotes Jackal (1), votes Brit (4)
515 20:12 Danny unvotes Brit (3), votes Murray (4)
518 20:17 KWhit votes Brit (4)
529 20:33 JAG votes Murray (5)
538 20:46 Font unvotes Jackal (0), votes Brit (5)
542 20:47 Murray unvotes Danny (0), votes Brit (6)
559 20:52 DT unvotes Mau (0)
561 20:53 DT votes Brit (7)
565 20:53 KWhit unvotes Brit (6), votes Murray (6)
570 20:54 DT unvotes Brit (5)
572 20:54 DT votes Murray (7)
575 20:54 Font unvotes Brit (4), votes Murray (8)
576 20:55 Murray unvotes Brit (3), votes Font (2)

D4 (-1)

600 04:50 Narc votes Brit (1)
624 13:36 Autumn votes Chief (1)
637 14:21 Mau votes Font (1)
638 14:25 JAG votes Chief (2)
644 14:49 DT votes Font (2)
646 14:51 Font votes Jackal (1)
669 17:45 Jackal votes Chief (3)
681 19:04 Danny votes Brit (2)
686 19:41 Zinto votes Font (3)
703 19:49 Chief votes Font (4)
705 19:50 Font unvotes Jackal (0), votes Chief (4)
710 19:52 Danny unvotes Brit (1), votes Autumn (1)
714 19:53 Brit votes Chief (5)
721 19:56 JAG unvotes Chief (4), votes DT (1)
727 19:58 Font unvotes Chief (3), votes Autumn (2)
760 20:15 KWhit votes Chief (4)
762 20:26 JAG unvotes DT (0), votes Chief (5)
767 20:34 Danny unvotes Autumn (1), votes Font (5)
769 20:35 Danny unvotes Font (4), votes DT (1)
770 20:36 Font unvotes Autumn (0), votes Chief (6)
784 20:47 Danny unvotes DT (0), votes Font (5)

[britrock88]

So much blue. I think you're all baddies.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Jennifer Parker - The girl that puts that special twinkle in Marty's eye. Can pass notes to Marty in present day. In future is a semi-lover role that can pass notes and Marty will lose powers if she is killed or removed.

New flavor. Interesting.

[Narcizo]

Vote Autumn

[Narcizo]

Unbelievable the way vanillas have been picked off. Seven of them. If all the village roles are in the game then the game can't have started as 10:3:3 and I severely doubt there's more than one vanilla left in the game. I'm wondering if there were 3 bullies and a single Koranian who had conversion powers. Lets say that named roles and bullies can't be converted.

So we could well be 5:3:1 or 4:3:2 at the moment. On the plus side it should be pretty easy to work out who the non-villagers are. On the minus it's probably not going to help us.

Still no complaints from me as my inactivity has contributed to us being boned.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by britrock88

So much blue. I think you're all baddies.

Probably not far wrong.

[Narcizo]

My vote is going to follow Danny's from now on. Until he dies. Thus relieving me of any responsibility.

[Danny]

The good news is we have 4 roles in the final 9 players. It's quite possible every non role player left is a bad guy which as narc said may make the game unwinnable

[Danny]

So I feel like dt and or zinto are autumns bully friends

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

JAG, I feel solid about you so I'd be interested why the switch from CR to DT since i've been feeling the opposite.

Interesting

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Also, looking back to find a DT post I also notice Chief's sudden activity increase once he got some votes this morning. to me that's more often a worried baddie, the villagers this game at least seem to just be dying quietly.

Interesting, look back to find a dt post yet don't actually comment on it and instead go back to cr

[Danny]

Actually autumn later found it. Still not feeling good bout dt and zinto though

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

So apparently autumn is claiming biff has the brutal ability and a Marty seer ability

My role description and some of the flavor I've received suggest that Biff and his bullies are searching for me, yes. Perhaps it's one of the bullies that has the power, not Biff, but it was fairly clear that there was a bit of a race built in, if I could find Biff before he found me. I did not do so.

My best interpretation from my role and rules is that Biff rules in the present, Koranians in the future, and I think I had the advantage in the past. I am guessing Biff or one of his guys found me and then was thrown for a loop when we moved to the future instead of the present. I don't think the bullies can "Kill" in the future (notice that his victims all left town, because of his bullying, I don't think that works in the terrorist future because Biff's not in charge). That's my best understanding. I don't have any clue that the Koranians can search for me, but lots that Biff can, so I'm assuming that's what's happened.

Unfortunately it's bad timing for me. I have a school event from lunch 'til dinner, my wife is sick and I have to take her into the doctor's this morning as soon as they pick up their damn phone. So I"ll have to try to convince you very quickly. But look back and see who is playing more like Marty, Danny or I. I think Danny is really busy and volunteered for sacrificial duty as a way to help his team out. They're probably hoping that one of my "family" outs themselves too to resolve the claim, but I think for Biff there is a big incentive to deal with me and this was the only way to do it in the future.

[Autumn]

Has anyone seen a clue that Danny was "seer" until last night? He will claim that his trying to steer us from Chief was a clue, but he wouldn't vote for Font either, yet doesn't claim to have scanned her. In turn, look back at my posts and I was pretty clear about steering people away from those I had scanned. I think I did a good job of balancing between being too obvious, but several times people pointed out that I was being rather bold with my "allegiances." If I had been killed it would have been possible to get a sense of who I scanned with my posts. Was Danny playing like that? No. I think it's clear the plan to fake reveal only came out at the last moment when the future shift threw them for a loop.

[Autumn]

Okay, back from the doctor, running out to a school award thing. sorry I couldn't be around to argue the case more, but hopefully will see the truth if they dig around themselves.

[The Jackal]

So you are saying that the bullies felt forced into a fake reveal somehow to get rid of you because perhaps they thought they'd have vote candidates today? It's hard to buy that this would have been a necessary ploy on the part of Danny.

If the bullies are able to scan for Marty, which is not in the rules but not totally unbelievable, I guess I could see wanting to make a trade and control two days of votes .. but I don't think there's enough there for me not to believe Danny here.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Final Totals

murrayyyyy 9 - The Jackal (418), Autumn (426), britrock88 (439), Danny (515), JAG (529), KWhit (565), DaddyTorgo (572), fontisian (575)
britrock88 4 - Narcizo (429), Zinto (472), Chief Rum (499)
fontisian 2 - mauchow (448), murrayyyyy (576)

Originally Posted by fontisian

For some reason I only have four votes when five people (mauchow (637), DaddyTorgo (644), Zinto (686), Chief Rum (703), Danny (784)) are all voting for me.

I looked back at previous days and it looks like we somehow missed this yesterday - but those totals on murrayyyyy and brit don't add up correctly either. I guess there are some extra votes bouncing around.

[The Jackal]

And in the case of the vote on you font, either someone got to remove a vote or someone's vote didn't count, looks like.

Shenanigans!

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

Actually autumn later found it. Still not feeling good bout dt and zinto though

Well if we believe Brit's reveal then the overwhelming odds are that they are baddies, no? The same as with everyone else.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Has anyone seen a clue that Danny was "seer" until last night?

I'm sure that Danny is Marty, if that helps clear things up.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

If the bullies are able to scan for Marty, which is not in the rules but not totally unbelievable, I guess I could see wanting to make a trade and control two days of votes .. but I don't think there's enough there for me not to believe Danny here.

I think the bullies being able to scan for Marty seems very reasonable. I also think Autumn knows about it because he is a bully.

The varrying vote count thing worries me, and it means we'll have to be careful not to have close votes.

Narc: Should I consider that a roleclaim?

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Narc: Should I consider that a roleclaim?

I'm not really bothered what you consider it. The evidence you need is in the thread, if you know where to look.

[fontisian]

I'm getting pretty sick of people kind of, sort of claiming a role.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Has anyone seen a clue that Danny was "seer" until last night? He will claim that his trying to steer us from Chief was a clue, but he wouldn't vote for Font either, yet doesn't claim to have scanned her. In turn, look back at my posts and I was pretty clear about steering people away from those I had scanned. I think I did a good job of balancing between being too obvious, but several times people pointed out that I was being rather bold with my "allegiances." If I had been killed it would have been possible to get a sense of who I scanned with my posts. Was Danny playing like that? No. I think it's clear the plan to fake reveal only came out at the last moment when the future shift threw them for a loop.

Not that it matters since you wont win this one, but I didn't even play the first two days lol.

[Danny]

At this point we basically have three people claiming roles. One very clearly and two not as clearly. Im very very confident Narc is telling the truth. Brit is feel pretty good about now also. Do we think the fourth person should reveal and we limit the field to quite possibly all bad guys? Or all bad guys and maybe one vanilla villager

[Danny]

Originally Posted by fontisian

I'm getting pretty sick of people kind of, sort of claiming a role.

FWIW, I know who Narc is

[KWhit]

So who is Narc claiming to be?

[Danny]

Well there is only two people left to claim, George and Jennifer. I can say that I have no interest in sleeping with Narc.