WW Amazing Race - Game Over (Moles Win & Team Reebok Wins) - Page 17

mauchow · 02-26-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

cmon Mau...

I honestly meant that in the literal form, I wish I could see what the hell is going to happen come deadline. Take that how you want.

I was online for the next few hours after that and at any point I could have said who my 'scan' was. It was only til the next morning when I actually went forward with it. Cmon lathum...

The Jackal · 02-26-2011, 10:51 AM

*heads to the basement of the christ church to drink ale with monks and crimson*

mauchow · 02-26-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Also, I can't guard the same person on consecutive nights. I obviously guarded myself N1 and you last night.

Which would explain why I saw you hunkered down looking like you were protecting yourself, I was already there and you were protecting me.

Lathum · 02-26-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I honestly meant that in the literal form, I wish I could see what the hell is going to happen come deadline. Take that how you want.

I was online for the next few hours after that and at any point I could have said who my 'scan' was. It was only til the next morning when I actually went forward with it. Cmon lathum...

I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe you meant that as anything other than a less than subtle hint at being seer.

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Which would explain why I saw you hunkered down looking like you were protecting yourself, I was already there and you were protecting me.

possible I suppose

mauchow · 02-26-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Ah gotcha. I agree with GE (and that's rare), desperation move.

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

It is what is. I am what I am.

This was my response to darth when he brought up that it was a desperation move. In this post, I confirmed that I was indeed desperate and also to hint that what I said earlier about me having a role, was true. I am what I am. I didn't say, I agree, I am the Seer, don't vote me. Everyone else took it and ran with it saying that I was the Seer.

If I am the best option to lynch for this day make sure we've exhausted all our options otherwise this will be another day in which we gain NOTHING. See: Yesterday. And then I can join up with Jackal and make people feel bad! HAHA!

Zinto · 02-26-2011, 11:21 AM

I am not sure if I am sold on Mau being a wolf even though inferring like he did to a role while being a villager with a "minor" role maybe reason enough to lynch him. I am not sure we should make this another run away vote because we will have two days of worthless voting history but on the other hand a lynch of Mau would clear up a few questions about day one.

Autumn · 02-26-2011, 11:23 AM

Oh I just want to double emphasize that the seer shouldn't reveal this weekend to clear this up, especially given that Mauboy could be the brutal wolf.

mauchow · 02-26-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Oh I just want to double emphasize that the seer shouldn't reveal this weekend to clear this up, especially given that Mauboy could be the brutal wolf.

The point of me coming out was to make sure the seer didn't reveal themselves. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

Autumn · 02-26-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

The point of me coming out was to make sure the seer didn't reveal themselves. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

It's not difficult to comprehend, it's just not very believable. EF very clearly listed a lot of roles for this game, the chance that there's some additional unknown role is so slim that I'm willing to vote myself out of the game if that's the case.

Chief Rum · 02-26-2011, 12:25 PM

Sorry, mau, no way I buy this. Even if I did, you essentially fall into the same spot The Jackal is, where we have to kill you to be sure.

As for your hints Autumn, I don't know what the Day One vote says, but it was a bit of a cluster****. It probably says a bunch of things that aren't true as well as hints the truth.

Regardless, know that I have been talking openly of the possibility mau is a wolf, and that I originated the theory which suggests Danny didn't get scanned because mau and Danny are fellow wolves, and mau didn't want to bring undue attention to his teammate. That whole theory is based on mau being a wolf.

Danny · 02-26-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Sorry, mau, no way I buy this. Even if I did, you essentially fall into the same spot The Jackal is, where we have to kill you to be sure.

As for your hints Autumn, I don't know what the Day One vote says, but it was a bit of a cluster****. It probably says a bunch of things that aren't true as well as hints the truth.

Regardless, know that I have been talking openly of the possibility mau is a wolf, and that I originated the theory which suggests Danny didn't get scanned because mau and Danny are fellow wolves, and mau didn't want to bring undue attention to his teammate. That whole theory is based on mau being a wolf.

If I was a wolf, Lathum would be dead right now.

The Jackal · 02-26-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

The point of me coming out was to make sure the seer didn't reveal themselves. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

One of the only good points to come out of yesterday is that the seer shouldn't reveal at any point unless their team is in danger of being eliminated from the race AND their teammate is dead. Or if they've caught multiple wolves.

The Jackal · 02-26-2011, 12:51 PM

I for one find mau's story very hard to believe, but that's just a dead guy's opinion.

EagleFan · 02-26-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Can Zinto and I still PM?

Not anymore as you are out of the race portion. You may still participate in thread though.

Autumn · 02-26-2011, 01:00 PM

I don't think you two are on speaking terms anymore, Pass, not after that performance. ;-)

Autumn · 02-26-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

If I was a wolf, Lathum would be dead right now.

While it's not 100%, I have to agree that if one of our most experienced players, like Danny, were a wolf they would have nailed Lathum while they had the chance. It's possible that A) they weren't the one who made the kill order, or B) they were desperate to hit the seer.

The second point is one to ponder. If the wolves knew what they were doing in leaving Lathum alive, but just really wanted to get the seer, that would suggest they were very worried that the next scan might be a deadly one for them. Interesting to ponder who they might be worried about getting scanned.

bhlloy · 02-26-2011, 04:19 PM

It's a no brainer again unfortunately. I'd like to bring Danny up as a candidate but the last page or so has me leaning away from him a little.

If he's not the seer, I see no reason not to do this with all the strange play so far. The benefits of knowing exactly where we stand far outweigh the negative of possibly losing a very minor role.

Vote Mauboy

mauchow · 02-26-2011, 04:53 PM

I'm going to go with the premise that if we know one of the partners is a villager, the other one has a high probability of being a mole. I think this would be a good move today despite everyone jumping on my bandwagon. And I do understand from your perspectives. I did make the mistake of pulling out the seer card but I've never played a game where someone did this. So when everyone was saying it's a terrible villager move, I felt really REALLY bad but hoped I could somewhat make up for it with what I thought was a decent move. Anyway, here's my vote.

vote goldeneagle

Darth Vilus · 02-26-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Okay, time to break this out...

I am a vanilla villager with a minor role that allows me to sneak around behind the scenes two times with the possibility of a third (depending on the amazing race portion of the game... I would have to make it to the top 5 to get an additional roll of film). The description given to me likened it to me being "Paparazzi", in that I can catch discriminating evidence on someone.

Once Lathum brought out that he was the Body Guard, I thought it was a perfect opportunity to take on the "Seer" role to bring the heat on me since it was somewhat assumed that's what I meant by what I said day 1. I wanted to try luring the wolves into trying to kill me last night, so I could take pictures of Lathum, hoping I would catch the moles in action. Obviously I came up empty handed last night. But one thing for sure, it DEFINITELY gave the impression that he IS the bodyguard. And from the limited detail, it almost sounded like he may have protected himself again last night..

What this means going forward?

I have one more roll of film to snap a few pictures at night unless I get to the top 5.

Chief Rum is not cleared.

Lathum is cleared as our bodyguard.

I'd lynch him on principal alone just for putting the seer in danger.

I don't buy his second reveal, sounds like he tried to get the seer and when that didn't work he tried to save himself by twisting his original reveal.

EagleFan · 02-27-2011, 01:45 AM

Leg One in Pictures

EagleFan · 02-27-2011, 01:51 AM

Leg Two In Pictures

Darth Vilus · 02-27-2011, 03:30 AM

Where are the old timers in the pics?

cougarfreak · 02-27-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

The point of me coming out was to make sure the seer didn't reveal themselves. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

Wow, I'm inexperienced, but I'm not sure about this.

Chief Rum · 02-27-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Wow, I'm inexperienced, but I'm not sure about this.

You're right to question it, cougar, which is one reason why a bunch of us aren't buying mau's reveal.

mauchow · 02-27-2011, 09:46 PM

I'm inexperienced as well, which is why I did what I did. I did something stupid initially and came out before the seer would have to reveal himself.

I've got one more roll of camera left, if you guys want me to use it before voting me out, I'll use it tonight in hopes that I find SOMETHING. You already know you want to kill me, so save it for the next day but give me one last shot to help out the village is all I'm asking.

mauchow · 02-27-2011, 09:47 PM

Roll of film...obviously.

The Jackal · 02-27-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm inexperienced as well, which is why I did what I did. I did something stupid initially and came out before the seer would have to reveal himself.

I've got one more roll of camera left, if you guys want me to use it before voting me out, I'll use it tonight in hopes that I find SOMETHING. You already know you want to kill me, so save it for the next day but give me one last shot to help out the village is all I'm asking.

Devil's advocate here is that the role you are claiming is just as likely to be a wolf role that could be user to identify the seer, so I doubt people want to postpone your death very much. Still thinking it's most likely you're just lying about the role, though.

EagleFan · 02-27-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

Where are the old timers in the pics?

You asked...

EagleFan · 02-27-2011, 10:40 PM

Zinto · 02-27-2011, 10:44 PM

Dang Pass and me are pretty good looking.

JAG · 02-28-2011, 07:37 AM

Vote mauboy

People have pretty much given all the good reasons, but to summarize, as far as I can tell, there's nothing in the rules about any possibility of a hidden role and this gives a pretty clear explanation why the wolves haven't targeted mau either N1 or N2, especially in light of Jackal being revealed as a villager. Of course, this is the second day in a row I've felt pretty sure about my voting and I was wrong yesterday, but nevertheless, I don't think the odds are in favor of mau telling the truth and I can't imagine a better candidate will come along.

JAG · 02-28-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

One of the only good points to come out of yesterday is that the seer shouldn't reveal at any point unless their team is in danger of being eliminated from the race AND their teammate is dead. Or if they've caught multiple wolves.

Even if they've caught multiple wolves, I don't know that they should come out unless they're in the second half of the race group and/or the upcoming leg looks really unfavorable from a skills standpoint or if they are NK'ed. We're going to get the benefit of the scans so long as they avoid the double-elimination, so we may as well abuse the talk-after-death mechanism for all it's worth while still playing it fairly conservatively.

JAG · 02-28-2011, 07:43 AM

EF, great pics. I feel like traveling after seeing them.

Danny · 02-28-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Even if they've caught multiple wolves, I don't know that they should come out unless they're in the second half of the race group and/or the upcoming leg looks really unfavorable from a skills standpoint or if they are NK'ed. We're going to get the benefit of the scans so long as they avoid the double-elimination, so we may as well abuse the talk-after-death mechanism for all it's worth while still playing it fairly conservatively.

On this note, deadline for race is an hour earlier, so hopefully they watch the results and then can post their scans if it looks like they will be eliminated.

Passacaglia · 02-28-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zinto

Dang Pass and me are pretty good looking.

True dat...wait, which one am I?

Autumn · 02-28-2011, 10:15 AM

All right, looks like nothing's come up while I was gone. This vote is as clear is it gets for me.

hoopsguy · 02-28-2011, 11:00 AM

I'll join in the parade on Mauboy, nothing terribly new to add on top of what others have said up to this point.

VOTE MAUBOY

ntndeacon · 02-28-2011, 11:21 AM

I will join the throng. regardless whether mau is telling the truth or not it will be enlightening.

Vote mauboy

Lathum · 02-28-2011, 12:09 PM

vote Mauboy

PackerFanatic · 02-28-2011, 12:20 PM

VOTE MAUBOY

Chief Rum · 02-28-2011, 12:44 PM

AVANLANCHE!!!!!

VOTE MAUBOY1

Chief Rum · 02-28-2011, 12:45 PM

Damn, typo in "avalanche" while trying for a funny; can't even edit it.

EagleFan · 02-28-2011, 01:09 PM

Corrected the team list to reflect the correct team being eliminated. Not sure what I was drinking Friday night.

Zinto · 02-28-2011, 01:12 PM

Well I do not want to be left out.

Vote Mau

bhlloy · 02-28-2011, 01:15 PM

In the interests of disclosure, I have to go back to the UK for a family illness, so I'll be traveling from this evening until sometime Tuesday afternoon. I've given EF conditional voting instructions for tomorrow just in case and I'll be around this afternoon, but it doesn't look like there's gonna be much movement on this right now regardless

hoopsguy · 02-28-2011, 02:01 PM

So just doing a little brainstorming on the results the other day ... it looks like there were only two teams who grasped the travel patterns for Rio to Falklands. When I was crafting the telegram to Chief Rum that discussed this, I was at least a little concerned with the idea that the wolves might be benefit from me doing a little research. The fact that only one other team had this order, rather than 2-4 other teams, makes me feel a little better about my teammate.

Chief Rum · 02-28-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

In the interests of disclosure, I have to go back to the UK for a family illness, so I'll be traveling from this evening until sometime Tuesday afternoon. I've given EF conditional voting instructions for tomorrow just in case and I'll be around this afternoon, but it doesn't look like there's gonna be much movement on this right now regardless

Sorry to hear about the family trouble, bhlloy. I hope your relative gets better quickly.

Danny · 02-28-2011, 02:02 PM

Such an action filled day. Oh and you should have kept the hoops/cr team eliminated.

Danny · 02-28-2011, 02:03 PM

Based on my teams results so far, if Mau is a wolf, he sure hasn't done a good job of leaking info to our team.

Lathum · 02-28-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

In the interests of disclosure, I have to go back to the UK for a family illness, so I'll be traveling from this evening until sometime Tuesday afternoon. I've given EF conditional voting instructions for tomorrow just in case and I'll be around this afternoon, but it doesn't look like there's gonna be much movement on this right now regardless

hope all is ok...

02-26-2011, 12:25 PM	#810
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Sorry, mau, no way I buy this. Even if I did, you essentially fall into the same spot The Jackal is, where we have to kill you to be sure. As for your hints Autumn, I don't know what the Day One vote says, but it was a bit of a cluster***. It probably says a bunch of things that aren't true as well as hints the truth. Regardless, know that I have been talking openly of the possibility mau is a wolf, and that I originated the theory which suggests Danny didn't get scanned because mau and Danny are fellow wolves, and mau didn't want to bring undue attention to his teammate. That whole theory is based on mau being a wolf. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.*

02-27-2011, 01:45 AM	#820
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Leg One in Pictures __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

02-27-2011, 01:51 AM	#821
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Leg Two In Pictures __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

02-27-2011, 03:30 AM	#822
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Where are the old timers in the pics? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

02-27-2011, 10:40 PM	#829
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	__________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

02-26-2011, 10:51 AM	#802
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	heads to the basement of the christ church to drink ale with monks and crimson

02-26-2011, 11:21 AM	#806
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I am not sure if I am sold on Mau being a wolf even though inferring like he did to a role while being a villager with a "minor" role maybe reason enough to lynch him. I am not sure we should make this another run away vote because we will have two days of worthless voting history but on the other hand a lynch of Mau would clear up a few questions about day one.

02-26-2011, 11:23 AM	#807
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Oh I just want to double emphasize that the seer shouldn't reveal this weekend to clear this up, especially given that Mauboy could be the brutal wolf.

02-26-2011, 12:51 PM	#813
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I for one find mau's story very hard to believe, but that's just a dead guy's opinion.

02-26-2011, 01:00 PM	#815
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I don't think you two are on speaking terms anymore, Pass, not after that performance. ;-)

02-26-2011, 04:19 PM	#817
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	It's a no brainer again unfortunately. I'd like to bring Danny up as a candidate but the last page or so has me leaning away from him a little. If he's not the seer, I see no reason not to do this with all the strange play so far. The benefits of knowing exactly where we stand far outweigh the negative of possibly losing a very minor role. Vote Mauboy

02-26-2011, 04:53 PM	#818
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I'm going to go with the premise that if we know one of the partners is a villager, the other one has a high probability of being a mole. I think this would be a good move today despite everyone jumping on my bandwagon. And I do understand from your perspectives. I did make the mistake of pulling out the seer card but I've never played a game where someone did this. So when everyone was saying it's a terrible villager move, I felt really REALLY bad but hoped I could somewhat make up for it with what I thought was a decent move. Anyway, here's my vote. vote goldeneagle

02-27-2011, 09:46 PM	#825
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I'm inexperienced as well, which is why I did what I did. I did something stupid initially and came out before the seer would have to reveal himself. I've got one more roll of camera left, if you guys want me to use it before voting me out, I'll use it tonight in hopes that I find SOMETHING. You already know you want to kill me, so save it for the next day but give me one last shot to help out the village is all I'm asking.

02-27-2011, 09:47 PM	#826
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Roll of film...obviously.

02-27-2011, 10:44 PM	#830
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Dang Pass and me are pretty good looking.

02-28-2011, 07:37 AM	#831
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Vote mauboy People have pretty much given all the good reasons, but to summarize, as far as I can tell, there's nothing in the rules about any possibility of a hidden role and this gives a pretty clear explanation why the wolves haven't targeted mau either N1 or N2, especially in light of Jackal being revealed as a villager. Of course, this is the second day in a row I've felt pretty sure about my voting and I was wrong yesterday, but nevertheless, I don't think the odds are in favor of mau telling the truth and I can't imagine a better candidate will come along.

02-28-2011, 07:43 AM	#833
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	EF, great pics. I feel like traveling after seeing them.

02-28-2011, 10:15 AM	#836
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	All right, looks like nothing's come up while I was gone. This vote is as clear is it gets for me.

02-28-2011, 11:00 AM	#837
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'll join in the parade on Mauboy, nothing terribly new to add on top of what others have said up to this point. VOTE MAUBOY

02-28-2011, 11:21 AM	#838
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I will join the throng. regardless whether mau is telling the truth or not it will be enlightening. Vote mauboy

02-28-2011, 12:09 PM	#839
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	vote Mauboy

02-28-2011, 12:20 PM	#840
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE MAUBOY

02-28-2011, 12:44 PM	#841
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	AVANLANCHE!!!!! VOTE MAUBOY1 __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

02-28-2011, 12:45 PM	#842
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Damn, typo in "avalanche" while trying for a funny; can't even edit it. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

02-28-2011, 01:09 PM	#843
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Corrected the team list to reflect the correct team being eliminated. Not sure what I was drinking Friday night. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

02-28-2011, 01:12 PM	#844
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Well I do not want to be left out. Vote Mau

02-28-2011, 01:15 PM	#845
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	In the interests of disclosure, I have to go back to the UK for a family illness, so I'll be traveling from this evening until sometime Tuesday afternoon. I've given EF conditional voting instructions for tomorrow just in case and I'll be around this afternoon, but it doesn't look like there's gonna be much movement on this right now regardless

02-28-2011, 02:01 PM	#846
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	So just doing a little brainstorming on the results the other day ... it looks like there were only two teams who grasped the travel patterns for Rio to Falklands. When I was crafting the telegram to Chief Rum that discussed this, I was at least a little concerned with the idea that the wolves might be benefit from me doing a little research. The fact that only one other team had this order, rather than 2-4 other teams, makes me feel a little better about my teammate.

02-28-2011, 02:02 PM	#848
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Such an action filled day. Oh and you should have kept the hoops/cr team eliminated.

02-28-2011, 02:03 PM	#849
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Based on my teams results so far, if Mau is a wolf, he sure hasn't done a good job of leaking info to our team.

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