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Old 10-10-2009, 09:56 AM   #801
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Not A Blog - Dance, Dance, Dance

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Finished a Jon Snow chapter, and have just passed the 1100 page (manuscript pages, the page count in the final printed book will be different) mark on A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. That's counting only finished chapters in something close to final form. I have considerably more in partials, fragments, and roughs.

Even with just the finished portions, DANCE is now longer than A FEAST FOR CROWS and A GAME OF THRONES, and I'm closing in on A CLASH OF KINGS. I do hope I can wrap things up before I approach the 1521 page length of A STORM OF SWORDS.

Making a new run at the Meereenese knot, but maybe not tomorrow. I think I'll hang around at the Wall a bit longer, and maybe visit Winterfell.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:29 AM   #802
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I estimated how much longer it'd take him to finish the book at 1100 pages since a year after AFFC if he's going to finish at 1500 pages.

It's going to be another two years.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:14 PM   #803
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Maybe I've missed it...is he intending to finish the whole thing with Dance? I thought this would be just another book, not the climax.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:45 PM   #804
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Maybe I've missed it...is he intending to finish the whole thing with Dance? I thought this would be just another book, not the climax.

Where do you get the idea he's finishing with Dance?
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:52 PM   #805
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Well, I never thought that this was going to be the finish. It just seems that with 1100 pages already in the books, and he only HOPING that he'll be done before 1500, that he may be trying to put too much into this one. Then again, I think about who George R.R. Martin is, and it makes a bunch more sense
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:23 AM   #806
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It's easier to just assume he's never actually going to finish and may in fact not publish another book until after he's dead, and then be pleasantly surprised by anything that does get finished/published.

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Old 10-13-2009, 09:56 AM   #807
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Most like a year or two more for this one. Afetr that who knows. A year off or two then another 6-8 years for the next book which means something like 2018-2022. I think he mentioned a while back the series would 7 books so the Final book would be coming out in the 2025-2030 range:0........That is if he could possibly live that long which is not likely for the looks of him.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:08 AM   #808
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Most like a year or two more for this one. Afetr that who knows. A year off or two then another 6-8 years for the next book which means something like 2018-2022. I think he mentioned a while back the series would 7 books so the Final book would be coming out in the 2025-2030 range:0........That is if he could possibly live that long which is not likely for the looks of him.

Maybe he can at least leave us his rough outline for the final two books if he dies, so at least we know what the hell happens to resolve the series....
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:49 AM   #809
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They have casted Kal Drogo. The actor is Jason Momoa. I have never seen him in anything. It looks like he's a TV guy and has two kids with Denise Huxtable. Since he doesn't really speak much, all he really needs to do is look the part, which, I'd say, he totally does:

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Old 10-19-2009, 12:02 PM   #810
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They have casted Kal Drogo. The actor is Jason Momoa. I have never seen him in anything. It looks like he's a TV guy and has two kids with Denise Huxtable. Since he doesn't really speak much, all he really needs to do is look the part, which, I'd say, he totally does:


he was on Andromeda with Kevin Sorbo wasn't he?

he'll be great as Drogo...like you said - looks the part and is a good enough actor to pull it off IMO
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:07 PM   #811
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he was on Andromeda with Kevin Sorbo wasn't he?

he'll be great as Drogo...like you said - looks the part and is a good enough actor to pull it off IMO

He was one of the co-stars on Star Gate Atlantis on the syfy channel for 4-5 seasons. He was pretty good and will hit this roll real well.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:09 PM   #812
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I always pictured Drogo as a little bit older, but I think he'll do in a pinch...
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:33 PM   #813
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He looks like a damned Klingon.

I'm not feeling this pick.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:37 PM   #814
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:38 PM   #815
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Who did you have pictured as Drogo?
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:45 PM   #816
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He looks like a damned Klingon.

I'm not feeling this pick.

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Who did you have pictured as Drogo?

Seriously. Based on his description in the book and all the artistic representations I've seen, the look pretty much nails Drogo.

And the comparison to Worf isn't all that off. And I mean that in a positive way.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:45 PM   #817
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Who did you have pictured as Drogo?

Not Worf, that's for darned sure.

I guess I always picture him as looking more like a really tall native american or something.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:07 PM   #818
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Not Worf, that's for darned sure.

I guess I always picture him as looking more like a really tall native american or something.

The description is pretty solidly Mongolian in styling and appearance. not sure how you could get native american out of that but I've actually read stranger ideas. Someone posted on a sci-fi board I used to go to that she always pictured Drogo and his goons as vikings. I mean WTF?
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:25 PM   #819
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The description is pretty solidly Mongolian in styling and appearance. not sure how you could get native american out of that but I've actually read stranger ideas. Someone posted on a sci-fi board I used to go to that she always pictured Drogo and his goons as vikings. I mean WTF?

Totally Mongolian feel I agree.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:44 PM   #820
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Not Worf, that's for darned sure.

I guess I always picture him as looking more like a really tall native american or something.

I also got that feel. I would have to go back to the original description, but that was what I had always pictured. I can definitely see Mongolian in the Khan mold, now that it has been mentioned, but I always saw him as similar to Native Americans.
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:00 PM   #821
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no no no...totally mongolian - all the horses and the riding-culture and stuff didn't bring up echos of Mongols sweeping into Europe?
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:14 PM   #822
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:17 PM   #823
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The description is pretty solidly Mongolian in styling and appearance. not sure how you could get native american out of that but I've actually read stranger ideas. Someone posted on a sci-fi board I used to go to that she always pictured Drogo and his goons as vikings. I mean WTF?
Jason doesn't look mongolian to me. Am I missing something?
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:21 PM   #824
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I saw the picture before I read any of the post, and my first thought was 'Drogo,' so that had to be something good

Wonderful casting, in my opinion. I've never seen the guy act, but even if he's remotely decent, he looks brilliant already.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:56 AM   #825
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Maybe some reason to be optimistic?

Posted on Jan 28th: Not A Blog - Dancing
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Snowing like hell in Santa Fe today. I feel like Jon Snow on the Wall. White everywhere I look, and still coming down.

Of course, I'm writing about Meereen, where the weather is hot and muggy, oppressive. If the snow keeps falling, I better take it as an omen, switch to a Jon chapter tomorrow.

The good news: finished a chapter today.

The bad news: it's one I've finished at least four times before.

This time, though, I think I finally got it right. We'll see. Still whacking at the Meereenese knot.

I took an especially vigorous hack two days ago, by switching to a new POV. It seems to have helped. Helps to have a pair of eyes on the inside rather than the outside here. And back story works better in recollections than in dialogue.

Let's hope that when next week comes, I still like what I did this week.

Writing, writing..

And, it looks like there's a cover to the book, posted on Jan 29th: Not A Blog - A Good Day, With Snow

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Old 01-30-2010, 11:15 AM   #826
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They have casted Kal Drogo. The actor is Jason Momoa. I have never seen him in anything. It looks like he's a TV guy and has two kids with Denise Huxtable. Since he doesn't really speak much, all he really needs to do is look the part, which, I'd say, he totally does:


Ahhh, the Uncle Rico pose. That's my preferred stance at the beach.
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Old 01-30-2010, 12:24 PM   #827
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The bad news: it's one I've finished at least four times before.

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Old 01-30-2010, 01:37 PM   #828
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Prediction: J.D. Salinger will publish his next book earlier than Martin's next ASOIAF book.

And yes, I know Salinger died this week (RIP).
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Old 01-30-2010, 02:09 PM   #829
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Prediction: J.D. Salinger will publish his next book earlier than Martin's next ASOIAF book.

And yes, I know Salinger died this week (RIP).

Yup I loved his books and read them a couple of times but stop following his blog like over a year ago. I have since moved on to The The Sword of Truth series which is 11 books and the writer actually finished the story line in it. I would recommend people check it out. I am currently listening to it in its audio book format and it is excellent.
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Prediction: J.D. Salinger will publish his next book earlier than Martin's next ASOIAF book.

Heh! That's a good one.

Anyone see that the guy (up above) playing Khal Drogo is also playing Conan in the new Conan movie? Personally, I think he makes a better Drogo than a Conan, but whatever.
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:44 PM   #831
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That guy doesn't look Irish at all!
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That guy doesn't look Irish at all!

Irish? Did I miss a reference?
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Irish? Did I miss a reference?

I should have quoted the post above mine, but i was rushed. Anyways, it's a lame Conan joke.
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:08 PM   #834
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Yup I loved his books and read them a couple of times but stop following his blog like over a year ago. I have since moved on to The The Sword of Truth series which is 11 books and the writer actually finished the story line in it. I would recommend people check it out. I am currently listening to it in its audio book format and it is excellent.

He finished the Sword of Truth? I quit around the 7th or 8th book - it was just the same stuff over and over again in each book, it seemed like.
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He finished the Sword of Truth? I quit around the 7th or 8th book - it was just the same stuff over and over again in each book, it seemed like.

Yaeh 11 books. I guess your may miles vary. I liked it and like I said at least the story was completed unlike Martins who nbe lucky to get the next book completed before he crocks let alone the series (3-4 more books)
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:35 PM   #836
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Yaeh 11 books. I guess your may miles vary. I liked it and like I said at least the story was completed unlike Martins who nbe lucky to get the next book completed before he crocks let alone the series (3-4 more books)

Well for the record, I really, REALLY enjoyed the first three or four books in the series. By about book 5 though, it just seemed like every book is "Richard gets separated from Kahlan, has to find/fight his way back to her, rinse, repeat, over."
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:23 PM   #837
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Well for the record, I really, REALLY enjoyed the first three or four books in the series. By about book 5 though, it just seemed like every book is "Richard gets separated from Kahlan, has to find/fight his way back to her, rinse, repeat, over."

Yeah, me too. Loved the first book, great scenery, great concept... but story wise it just got too repetitive and I gave up after book 5 or so.
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Old 03-02-2010, 01:46 PM   #838
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Alan Sepinwall tweets that "Game of Thrones" has been greenlit to series at HBO.

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Old 03-02-2010, 01:54 PM   #840
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Sweet!

Though I have no idea who Alan Sepinwall is or why he'd know this.
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Though I have no idea who Alan Sepinwall is or why he'd know this.

Sorry. He's one of the bigger TV bloggers (along with Tim Goodman). He writes for the NJ Star-Ledger.

What's Alan Watching?
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:05 PM   #843
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A couple of more links with the news (a picture from the pilot is in the links):



HBO greenlights 'Game of Thrones' to series (pic)

Winter is, indeed, coming.

HBO has greenlighted highly anticipated fantasy series "Game of Thrones."
The premium network has picked up the project for a first season debut next spring (below is the first released photo from the series). Nine episodes plus the pilot have been ordered. Production will begin in Belfast this June.


From the moment the project was first announced in development, the series based on the George R.R. Martin novels has generated enormous, perhaps unprecedented, online interest for a series at such an early stage.

The sprawling tale set in the mythical land of Westeros tells the story of the noble Stark family who become caught up in high court intrigue when patriarch Eddard (played by Sean Bean) becomes the king's new right-hand man. The four-and-counting books in the series would each be used as one season of the series.

Unlike many fantasy novels, the "Thrones" series largely avoids relying on magical elements and instead goes for brutal realism -- think "Sopranos" with swords. Martin, a former TV writer ("Beauty and the Beast"), writes each chapter as a cliffhanger, which should lend itself well to series translation.

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2010/03/game-of-thrones-hbo-george-rr-martin-.html
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Old 03-02-2010, 02:32 PM   #844
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great...either the hollywood reporter or the "In a Land Called Colorado" banner ad up top is spyware infested.

that picture looked hella sweet though. i can't wait!
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well...it's the "In a Land Called Colorado" banner ad. how does one report those to OS?
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Yay yay yay yay yay yay yay!

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This is great news, but I'm really starting to intensley dislike Martin. He seems like a lazy tool who's resting on his laurels and just dipshitting around while his fans wait. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't owe his fans anything, blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry, but he does. His fans bought his books, and he promised to continue to finish the series. But I mean, 5 YEARS?!?!?!?! I don't care how complicated crap like the "Meerish Knot" or whatever his other excuses are, it should not take that long.

I don't know, he just seems like an excuse-making, procrastinating, self-indulged dumbass.

I can't wait for his next book though.
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If that was sarcastic, then my response is "Yeah, yeah, yeah. Heard that argument a million times, and that's a simplification of the point". If it's not sarcasm, then I still don't agree, because that's not the whole point either.
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This is great news, but I'm really starting to intensley dislike Martin. He seems like a lazy tool who's resting on his laurels and just dipshitting around while his fans wait. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't owe his fans anything, blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry, but he does. His fans bought his books, and he promised to continue to finish the series. But I mean, 5 YEARS?!?!?!?! I don't care how complicated crap like the "Meerish Knot" or whatever his other excuses are, it should not take that long.

I don't know, he just seems like an excuse-making, procrastinating, self-indulged dumbass.

I can't wait for his next book though.

I certainly understand where you're coming from...it's frigging frustrating. I'm going to be 40 by the time the damn series is fucking finished...it's kind of ridiculous.
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