The Biden Presidency - 2020 - Page 17

Young Drachma · 01-05-2021, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

The racist history of Georgia's runoff election system

Since we have a lot of history lovers here, I didn't know until today that runoff elections in the south primarily exist explicitly as a form of white supremacy and to suppress the black vote. This article suggests that in states like Georgia it can't really do that successfully anymore, but that it can in places like Alabama and Mississippi.

Mississippi's is next level. They scrapped their 1890 system in the last eletion that created a Electoral College-like deal for statewide elections. Shout out to those dudes though, as they transparently indicated at the time why they were doing it. No need for coded language in 1890.

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The state’s 1890 Constitution requires a candidate for statewide office to win not only the majority of the popular vote, but also a majority of the 122 state House districts. A candidate could win the statewide popular vote, but if they didn’t win the majority of the state House districts, the election would be decided by the state House of Representatives. Those representatives weren’t required to vote in accordance with the majority in their district.

cmp · 01-05-2021, 10:55 PM

Wasserman has seen enough!

https://twitter.com/redistrict/statu...934650880?s=21

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:12 PM

https://twitter.com/politics_polls/s...592491010?s=21

Political Polls also calls it for Ossoff

RainMaker · 01-05-2021, 11:14 PM

It is over. Networks just want to keep ratings up.

cmp · 01-05-2021, 11:21 PM

Warnock will win by 90-100,000. Ossoff by 50-60,000.

Thomkal · 01-05-2021, 11:24 PM

NYTimes says there are 93,000 votes left to count and the Dems estimated share of those would be 77%-Ossoff would win by 69,000. Warnock would win by 106,000

sterlingice · 01-05-2021, 11:26 PM

But what is Newsmax reporting?!?

SI

ISiddiqui · 01-05-2021, 11:32 PM

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...309508098?s=21

PilotMan · 01-05-2021, 11:46 PM

I am completely dumbfounded that it appears to have played out if the Dems take control of the Senate this way. I am not getting my hopes up until it's called, but fuck, am I going to enjoy the shit out of it if they do.

kingfc22 · 01-05-2021, 11:46 PM

http://twitter.com/SteveHofstetter/s...33790223998977

ISiddiqui · 01-06-2021, 01:26 AM

Warnock declared winner by most outlets. Ossoff up by around 10 thousand votes with mail in ballots in Democratic area to come.

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Qwikshot · 01-06-2021, 04:55 AM

This is a great ducking morning, hopefully the rest of the day goes well too

GrantDawg · 01-06-2021, 05:51 AM

The elections are not going to be certified until January 22. How does McConnell proceed until then?

CrimsonFox · 01-06-2021, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

But what is Newsmax reporting?!?

SI

They are covering the birth of a prize county fair pig

Ben E Lou · 01-06-2021, 06:53 AM

Didn’t they call it super early for Warnock?

Ben E Lou · 01-06-2021, 06:56 AM

Yeah, they did. I remember seeing that and thinking it was strange, but then I thought that maybe Newsmax wasn’t what I thought it was.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29A147

Edward64 · 01-06-2021, 07:03 AM

Probably can call it now.

Congrats Biden, you have your Congress. Go do your thing for the next 2 years.

Definitely ready to see how you get us out of the Covid mess and also what you'll do on immigration now.

Lathum · 01-06-2021, 07:15 AM

Van Jones with a great line. Black joy vs white rage and black joy won.

Butter · 01-06-2021, 07:21 AM

If Georgia didn't have the runoff system, GOP would control the Senate 51-49.

miked · 01-06-2021, 07:30 AM

Nobody wants to support the party that has turned in to cry babies and cheaters?

Brian Swartz · 01-06-2021, 08:12 AM

I don't get all of these hot takes about how this is a rejection of Trump's tactics after the election, as if we didn't know who he was after him being president for a full term. It seems pretty clearly this was a case of buying the vote - neither Trump or Biden were at all shy that that is what they were going for, and it was also obvious they weren't going to get it with a GOP Senate.

The rest I'm sure had some impact as well, and perhaps we'll get more data on what people say is the why in the coming days, but it seems pretty transparent that's a major cause.

whomario · 01-06-2021, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The elections are not going to be certified until January 22. How does McConnell proceed until then?

I am sure there are plenty of unwritten rules and conventions he can ignore and subvert ...

kingfc22 · 01-06-2021, 09:01 AM

What a great morning to wake up to the overnight count tally verifying where it looked like things were headed.

Hey Lindsey, you were right all along! GOP got destroyed and you deserve it.

PilotMan · 01-06-2021, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by whomario

I am sure there are plenty of unwritten rules and conventions he can ignore and subvert ...

Would he go so far as to deny seating them over the 'controversy' that is sure to follow? His own attempt to retain power?

AlexB · 01-06-2021, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by whomario

I am sure there are plenty of unwritten rules and conventions he can ignore and subvert ...

I’m sure he’ll ignore some of the written ones too

molson · 01-06-2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by miked

Nobody wants to support the party that has turned in to cry babies and cheaters?

At least 40% of the country supports them and what they're doing today, and a little more than that in Georgia.

ISiddiqui · 01-06-2021, 09:58 AM

It strikes me that if someone pitched what happened in Georgia as a movie (or a West Wing episode), it'd be rejected for being too far fetched.

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PilotMan · 01-06-2021, 10:04 AM

The historical retrospective on this time will be incredible if it's eventually shown to be the dumpster fire it is. Of course, if the trumpers win in the end, and we're all subjected to the USofT for eternity, then we'll all be reading about how the dynasty saved the world.

whomario · 01-06-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Would he go so far as to deny seating them over the 'controversy' that is sure to follow? His own attempt to retain power?

No idea. Was largely meant in jest, because these past few months have really driven home how fragile, cumbersome and inefficient the US democratic system really is.

But then again, i don't have to live in your crazy world of politics trying to somehow entrust democracy to man's adherence to a 200 year old documents and what it's creators may or may not have intended for a nation/society not in the slightest comparable anymore.
Granted, it took 2 World Wars and unspeakable tragedy spread under the guise of legitimate governmental procedure to get our shit together and close various detrimental loopholes ...

ISiddiqui · 01-06-2021, 11:19 AM

Merrick Garland is Biden's pick for Attorney General

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Lathum · 01-06-2021, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Merrick Garland is Biden's pick for Attorney General

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Fucking awesome. I hope he goes after every last one of them

RainMaker · 01-06-2021, 11:22 AM

Was hoping for Yates once the Georgia Senate seats flipped. I guess they don't have to worry about filling judges but Garland is such a bland pick.

PilotMan · 01-06-2021, 11:29 AM

I agree on him being bland. It does feel like a decent move. 2 1/2 stars.

kingfc22 · 01-06-2021, 11:41 AM

It gets an extra 1.5 stars up to 4 stars for the giant middle finger at the GOP

JPhillips · 01-06-2021, 11:43 AM

Nobody in the GOP cares about Garland. He's the guy they fucked over, who cares what he does with the rest of his life?

I. J. Reilly · 01-06-2021, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Nobody in the GOP cares about Garland. He's the guy they fucked over, who cares what he does with the rest of his life?

Oh, I don’t know. If the guy you fucked over is now in a position to investigate and possibly bring charges against you, you might care a little.

larrymcg421 · 01-06-2021, 12:12 PM

I think the bigger deal is being able to replace him on the DC Circuit.

RainMaker · 01-06-2021, 01:33 PM

Graham came out today to applaud the Garland pick. He's a moderate who won't touch the white collar stuff they care about. It is not a middle finger.

RainMaker · 01-06-2021, 02:30 PM

Which fucking idiot on the Dem side will come out first alking about how we need to reach across the aisle?

RainMaker · 01-06-2021, 02:30 PM

Nevermind Chris Coons did it this morning lol

GrantDawg · 01-08-2021, 10:43 AM

Ossoff is up over a point now. Warnock is almost at 2 points. I couldn't be more proud of my state, which I rarely get to say.

Swaggs · 01-08-2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Ossoff is up over a point now. Warnock is almost at 2 points. I couldn't be more proud of my state, which I rarely get to say.

If those hold, it will be impressive how accurate the Election Needle was. It closed at 3:00 AM with Warnock at 2.0 and Ossoff at 1.1. I believe at that time Warnock was up by .4-.6 and Ossoff was close to tied.

Swaggs · 01-08-2021, 10:56 AM

I wonder if/when Perdue will concede. Seems like it would be nice for Georgia to have two senators at a time like this.

GrantDawg · 01-08-2021, 11:48 AM

This crap has already started. The next two years is going to be having to kowtow to Manchin on everything.

miked · 01-08-2021, 11:53 AM

There are quite a few republicans who support it. The good news is that votes can actually be scheduled now, right?

Qwikshot · 01-08-2021, 12:05 PM

I'm fine with West Virginia not being a part of the stimulus

GrantDawg · 01-08-2021, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by miked

There are quite a few republicans who support it. The good news is that votes can actually be scheduled now, right?

Could, but Congress is not coming back until Biden is sworn in (unless it is for impeachment).

albionmoonlight · 01-08-2021, 12:23 PM

Posturing is all part of the normal legislative back and forth.

It has been so long since we've had a normal executive/legislative relationship that we've forgotten what it is supposed to look like.

They are *supposed* to argue and debate in the media. And in backrooms. And then they agree to something that isn't quite what everyone wants but that lets everyone go back to their constituents and say "see, look what I did for you!"

JPhillips · 01-08-2021, 12:30 PM

I actually think this is a situation that Biden and maybe only Biden can overcome. I have no doubt he can make a deal with Manchin.

GrantDawg · 01-08-2021, 01:50 PM

Perdue officially concedes. Nothing like a coup to get people to back off their "never concede" stances.

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01-05-2021, 11:12 PM	#803
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	https://twitter.com/politics_polls/s...592491010?s=21 Political Polls also calls it for Ossoff __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 01-05-2021 at 11:13 PM.

01-05-2021, 11:24 PM	#806
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	NYTimes says there are 93,000 votes left to count and the Dems estimated share of those would be 77%-Ossoff would win by 69,000. Warnock would win by 106,000 __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-05-2021, 11:26 PM	#807
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	But what is Newsmax reporting?!? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

01-05-2021, 11:32 PM	#808
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...309508098?s=21 __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-05-2021, 11:46 PM	#809
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I am completely dumbfounded that it appears to have played out if the Dems take control of the Senate this way. I am not getting my hopes up until it's called, but fuck, am I going to enjoy the shit out of it if they do. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

01-05-2021, 10:55 PM	#802
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Wasserman has seen enough! https://twitter.com/redistrict/statu...934650880?s=21

01-05-2021, 11:14 PM	#804
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It is over. Networks just want to keep ratings up.

01-05-2021, 11:21 PM	#805
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Warnock will win by 90-100,000. Ossoff by 50-60,000.

01-05-2021, 11:46 PM	#810
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	http://twitter.com/SteveHofstetter/s...33790223998977 __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-06-2021, 01:26 AM	#811
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Warnock declared winner by most outlets. Ossoff up by around 10 thousand votes with mail in ballots in Democratic area to come. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 01-06-2021 at 01:28 AM.

01-06-2021, 04:55 AM	#812
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	This is a great ducking morning, hopefully the rest of the day goes well too __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

01-06-2021, 05:51 AM	#813
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	The elections are not going to be certified until January 22. How does McConnell proceed until then?

01-06-2021, 06:53 AM	#815
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Didn’t they call it super early for Warnock? __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

01-06-2021, 06:56 AM	#816
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Yeah, they did. I remember seeing that and thinking it was strange, but then I thought that maybe Newsmax wasn’t what I thought it was. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29A147 __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

01-06-2021, 07:03 AM	#817
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Probably can call it now. Congrats Biden, you have your Congress. Go do your thing for the next 2 years. Definitely ready to see how you get us out of the Covid mess and also what you'll do on immigration now. Last edited by Edward64 : 01-06-2021 at 07:03 AM.

01-06-2021, 07:15 AM	#818
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Van Jones with a great line. Black joy vs white rage and black joy won.

01-06-2021, 07:21 AM	#819
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	If Georgia didn't have the runoff system, GOP would control the Senate 51-49. __________________ My listening habits

01-06-2021, 07:30 AM	#820
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Nobody wants to support the party that has turned in to cry babies and cheaters? __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

01-06-2021, 08:12 AM	#821
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	I don't get all of these hot takes about how this is a rejection of Trump's tactics after the election, as if we didn't know who he was after him being president for a full term. It seems pretty clearly this was a case of buying the vote - neither Trump or Biden were at all shy that that is what they were going for, and it was also obvious they weren't going to get it with a GOP Senate. The rest I'm sure had some impact as well, and perhaps we'll get more data on what people say is the why in the coming days, but it seems pretty transparent that's a major cause.

01-06-2021, 09:01 AM	#823
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	What a great morning to wake up to the overnight count tally verifying where it looked like things were headed. Hey Lindsey, you were right all along! GOP got destroyed and you deserve it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-06-2021, 09:58 AM	#827
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	It strikes me that if someone pitched what happened in Georgia as a movie (or a West Wing episode), it'd be rejected for being too far fetched. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-06-2021, 10:04 AM	#828
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	The historical retrospective on this time will be incredible if it's eventually shown to be the dumpster fire it is. Of course, if the trumpers win in the end, and we're all subjected to the USofT for eternity, then we'll all be reading about how the dynasty saved the world. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

01-06-2021, 11:19 AM	#830
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Merrick Garland is Biden's pick for Attorney General Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-06-2021, 11:22 AM	#832
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Was hoping for Yates once the Georgia Senate seats flipped. I guess they don't have to worry about filling judges but Garland is such a bland pick.

01-06-2021, 11:29 AM	#833
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I agree on him being bland. It does feel like a decent move. 2 1/2 stars. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

01-06-2021, 11:41 AM	#834
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	It gets an extra 1.5 stars up to 4 stars for the giant middle finger at the GOP __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 01-06-2021 at 11:49 AM.

01-06-2021, 11:43 AM	#835
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Nobody in the GOP cares about Garland. He's the guy they fucked over, who cares what he does with the rest of his life? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-06-2021, 12:12 PM	#837
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I think the bigger deal is being able to replace him on the DC Circuit. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

01-06-2021, 01:33 PM	#838
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Graham came out today to applaud the Garland pick. He's a moderate who won't touch the white collar stuff they care about. It is not a middle finger.

01-06-2021, 02:30 PM	#839
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Which fucking idiot on the Dem side will come out first alking about how we need to reach across the aisle?

01-06-2021, 02:30 PM	#840
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Nevermind Chris Coons did it this morning lol

01-08-2021, 10:43 AM	#841
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Ossoff is up over a point now. Warnock is almost at 2 points. I couldn't be more proud of my state, which I rarely get to say.

01-08-2021, 10:56 AM	#843
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I wonder if/when Perdue will concede. Seems like it would be nice for Georgia to have two senators at a time like this. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-08-2021, 11:48 AM	#844
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	This crap has already started. The next two years is going to be having to kowtow to Manchin on everything. Last edited by GrantDawg : 01-08-2021 at 11:48 AM.

01-08-2021, 11:53 AM	#845
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	There are quite a few republicans who support it. The good news is that votes can actually be scheduled now, right? __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)