05-12-2009, 06:28 PM | #801 |
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Someone tell the Canes that the game started 10 minutes ago......
Weakest 3-1 lead in history
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05-12-2009, 07:00 PM | #802 |
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Sucker punch. I can't believe anyone would see what's depicted above and think it's a fair fight.
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I always thought dropping your gloves was the universal hockey sign for "I wish to fight with you and I am prepared to do so good sir". To punch somebody in the face with a fist, when their gloves are off, just seems so wrong.
Ward said he wasn't even looking at him, the first thing he saw was the punch flying at him. That's pretty clear from the video. People are making a lot of of him standing there, but we're talking like 1-2 seconds. Still, it looks like a quick, "honest" mistake. Last edited by molson : 05-12-2009 at 07:08 PM. |
05-12-2009, 07:20 PM | #804 |
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I just like the idea that there's some sort of exchange rate with regards to time SI
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And I can't believe anyone who watches the video can think Ward wasn't looking to start something...
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05-12-2009, 07:27 PM | #806 |
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Well, this is looking a lot like a 1 seed playing a 6 seed. Carolina better wake up.
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Eh, that's too snippy and short. My point follows Fidatelo's from above: when you start that kind of scrap and get that tangled up with a guy, you don't instantly look away and drop your arms to the side and go that slack unless you are:
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05-12-2009, 08:34 PM | #809 |
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Bruins force a Game Seven!
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And they earned it tonight. Carolina better dig deep if they want to move on to the Conference Finals, because Boston is playing like a 1 seed again, and Carolina is playing like, well, Carolina.
That said, I didn't think Carolina could push it to 7, so I'm pleased with the postseason result so far, anything else is gravy.
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05-12-2009, 09:01 PM | #811 |
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awesome game by the B's!
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05-12-2009, 10:39 PM | #812 |
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Through nearly 2 periods it's obvious Anaheim just wants it more. Detroit is missing the net, giving up all sorts of odd man rushes and just be thrown off the puck. Not giving up on this one by a long shot, but through two periods it looks like Detroit has.
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WTH started that deal?
edit to add: Okay, now I know what started that deal. It didn't make a lot of sense, Getzlaf hooks Hossa at the horn and he gets mad? I'm neither hither nor yon on who wins this series but after watching that sequence the Ducks looked like little punk ass bitches. Hope Detroit beats 'em about 8-0 in game seven.
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Conspiracy theory. The NHL paid each road team off the past two games to be sure this one went to Game Seven. See ya, Thursday, Wings fans. I still don't give us much of a chance, but like I said after Game Four, anytime you get to a Game Seven, there's a puncher's chance. Anything can happen.
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05-12-2009, 11:58 PM | #815 |
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3 game 7's.....does it get any better for a hockey fan??
I think not.
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05-13-2009, 06:25 AM | #816 |
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If they go into OT
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How about an OT game 7, a double OT game 7, and then a triple OT game 7
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Ward pushed him away, looked right at him, and watched Walker drop his gloves. For Ward to say he only saw the fist coming is bull crap.
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Really, still on this? Watch the video once again. He first looked at Walker at 18 seconds, and the fist had hit his face at 20 seconds. Again, that is in slow motion.
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05-13-2009, 08:26 AM | #821 |
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Come on, that's just hockey!
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05-13-2009, 08:53 AM | #824 |
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+1!
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As much as I would absolutely love a Chicago-Detroit series, I do so like watching the Wings lose. I'd also like to see game 7 go about 12 OTs so whoever wins is completely flat coming into game 1 of the WCF.
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This is the 3rd series in a row that Washington will play in a game 7, and all 3 of them have been at home for them.
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05-13-2009, 09:21 AM | #827 |
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I bet you also enjoy watching people steal puppies from the arms of small children and bullies stealing lunch monies from much smaller children. Classy.
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I was cracking up at all the fights at the end of the Anaheim-Detroit game. I didn't see exactly who all 10 guys on the ice were, but I believe I counted 3 players who actually do fight from time to time, and they were all wearing Ducks jerseys. It was really weird watching Datsyuk, Hossa, and Rafalski throw punches to defend themselves..
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You know who else was cracking up at all those fights? Colin White.
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I've never known a Red Wings fan to do such a thing. Except for DeTox, once. But that kid had it coming and he was going to buy an unhealthy lunch anyway.
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oh fuck me
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Good on the Ducks for forcing a game 7 (I love game 7s...but then, who doesn't?). But the Wings should be able to handle them at the Joe. Anaheim won largely due to being able to get favorable matchups out there on the ice. Babcock will have the last change at home, so he can keep Hossa and Franzen away from the Pronger-Neidermeyer pairing.
Edit: Does anyone know where Datsyuk got his reputation as strictly a finesse player? I know he's not necessarily a drop-the-gloves type, but the guy definitely has a mean streak.
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I do not like game 7s when the Red Wings are involved, unless, of course, they get up quickly and the final result is never in question like last time they played a game 7. That was enjoyable.
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Wasn't it a game 7 a number of years ago against the Avs where the chased Patrick Roy after shelling him for something like seven goals in a period and a half?
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Yep. That's what I was referring to in the post above. That was the Wings' last Game 7 at least from what I can recall.
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You're right...May 31st, 2002. 7-zip over the Avs. I'm surprised it's been that long since the Wings have been in a game 7 (had to go look it up).
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That was not a sucker punch. A sucker punch is what Tie Domi did to Ulf Samuelsson back in the day. Ulf absolutely had no idea what was coming. This situation is not the same.
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The situation is not the same. But it's still a sucker punch.
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The NHL folks here finally explained to me that dropping your arms to your side is the universal sign of "don't hit me" and that's what made it a sucker punch.
I still think there are two separate punches being discussed. I keep seeing references to a punch thrown when Walker first entered the fray between Ward and Cullen. That's the only thing that makes sense when Ward keeps saying he was looking at Cullen and didn't see Walker until he got hit.
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Just because what Tie Domi did to Ulf Samuelsson back in the day was a sucker punch does not mean that what Walker did to Ward was not a sucker punch. These aren't mutually exclusive events. It's kind of like pointing to a Yorkshire Terrier and saying "That's not a dog. A dog is a German Sheppard. Dogs are much bigger and have longer tails. A Yorkie is not a dog." Walker's sucker punch of Ward was just a different kind of sucker punch is all.
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That's not what was explained at all, but if that's the angle you want to take with all this... go on with your bad self! It always baffles me how subjective people's views are when it comes to "their" team. I mean, back in the day when Bob Probert sucker pucnhed Vincent Reindeau, I just admitted that the punch was way out of line (amusing, yes, but way out of line). I didn't feel the need to twist reality or debate semantics to defend his actions. Accept it. Deal with it. Move on.
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That was pretty clear to me. But hockey (at least the fighting and hitting part) makes less and less sense to me the more I try to understand it, so whatever. As for the fanboy angle, look, I'm not saying Ward didn't deserve his punishment (he clearly charged into this wanting a fight, I think his surprise was that Ward ended up not wanting one), and I said up front I have no opinion on the suspension as I don't fully understand the rules (and if he had been suspended, I wouldn't have argued it at all), all I wanted to do was understand why people kept wanting to call this a "sucker punch", as I didn't see that from the replays given that Ward was tangled up with Walker right before the punch. In the real world, if someone shoves my wife, I jump in and shove him, he pushes me back (or grapples with me or whatever and then we spearate), and I deck him (fat chance, but play along...) your average Joe is not going to call that a sucker punch. I'm trying to understand the hockey nuances that turn a similar on-ice situation into a sucker punch. I'll shut up about it now and just gripe about all the fighting in hockey instead and how it has no place in the modern game. Shoving both hands with a stick in it into the face of a guy who just took a shot should be a penalty, let's debate that instead
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I'd like to state that I hate the Carolina Hurricanes with a passion, and want the Bruins to advance like nobodies business, yet I'm not sold on it as a sucker punch.
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I really think it was an accidental sucker punch, if such a thing exists.
It was bad form, it was cheap, but I don't think it was malicious. It was a mistake. We're talking 2-3 seconds where all these decisions are being made, I totally understand how a punch can be thrown in the heat of that moment. |
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True, but I see Toews as the leader of the team/top 5-10 NHL player/elite NHL captian for at least ten years. Who knows how long his legs will last after he hits 30, but this guy is Yzerman all over again, imo, of course. If the Wirtz' return to their ridiculous ways(and I'm far from sold on the "new" Wirtz, then this could be a 3-5 year ride, followed by empty seats. Nevertheless, the amount of young talent Chicago has assembled after years of high-draft picks is mind-boggling, kind of similar to the DevilRays situation in MLB. Only a true idiot, or a moron who only cares about the bottom line(I'm looking at you Wirtz family) can screw up this situation. Bottom line, it's about friggin time! Last edited by watravaler : 05-13-2009 at 01:44 PM. |
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Served him right! I still hate the Avs...those great Wings/Avs matchups were some of the nastiest hockey I've ever seen. You know things are rough when the goalies decide to duke it out.
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