WW-Pokemon Day Three Deadline 4/15 10 PM

[The Jackal]

Nice job not countering last night

[The Jackal]

Not sure when I'll have time to look at votes to try and sniff out the third

[Grover]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

sounds exactly like my yesterday and today, i'm inhaling cough drops

That sounds like a choking hazard.

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Nice job not countering last night

I was worried that I had been sniffed out but it seemed worth it to wait in order to get the other read and I figured that after calling out the Brit nightkill they wouldn't go after Autumn.

Was originally going to scan fontisian all day long because if I was right that she was village I was kicking around the idea of coming out today anyway and trying to put together a circle of trust. But then Shoveler fake revealed and I switched up.

[The Jackal]

Felt pretty comfortable with Autumn after the way last night went down anyways, but never hurts to be sure

[The Jackal]

Hopefully you won't need another scan.. but you should theoretically be able to get one if necessary and the martyr does their job

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hopefully you won't need another scan.. but you should theoretically be able to get one if necessary and the martyr does their job

We've still got one out there after tonight, right? Not going to mention in thread but have a fairly good idea who I am going to search.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by path12

We've still got one out there after tonight, right? Not going to mention in thread but have a fairly good idea who I am going to search.

Hah, I must've already had Shoveler lynched in my mind .. so yes you'll get another scan

[timmae]

So, shoverler flips wolf or places path in the crosshairs. Vaimes action will tell us what we need to know there. Then it's find the 3rd stooge tomorrow? Or 2nd if tonight is a cluster. I need to finish reading the posts so far but grover and autumn are my 2 evil reads at the moment.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by timmae

So, shoverler flips wolf or places path in the crosshairs. Vaimes action will tell us what we need to know there. Then it's find the 3rd stooge tomorrow? Or 2nd if tonight is a cluster. I need to finish reading the posts so far but grover and autumn are my 2 evil reads at the moment.

May I ask you to expand on the read on me?

[JAG]

Originally Posted by timmae

So, shoverler flips wolf or places path in the crosshairs. Vaimes action will tell us what we need to know there. Then it's find the 3rd stooge tomorrow? Or 2nd if tonight is a cluster. I need to finish reading the posts so far but grover and autumn are my 2 evil reads at the moment.

Seeking as how Autumn was scanned good and there is no cunning in this game, having Autumn as one of your evil reads is...curious.

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Not sure when I'll have time to look at votes to try and sniff out the third

He may be doing that for us.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by JAG

Seeking as how Autumn was scanned good and there is no cunning in this game, having Autumn as one of your evil reads is...curious.

Not sure if confused or evil.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Not sure if confused or evil.

Or not 100% sold on Path. I am 95% of the way there. I'll have my reads regardless in a few.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by path12

Because you are smart enough to know that the wolves messed up on the nightkill, the EF situation resolves itself without a lynch and the better value for the village is trying to suss out who was hiding where on what could very well be a three way village vote yesterday.

So for me your motivations for pushing EF today come into question.

This makes me feel better about my shoveler vote. Could be a trap play but I read it as honest.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by timmae

There could be reads here. If shoveler flips evil then I have slight negative (evil) reads on narc, font and to a lesser extent EF.

So both the claimed seers say that I scanned as good but you still have an evil read on me? I'll remember that when I'm simming Chicago's games...

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by timmae

Or not 100% sold on Path. I am 95% of the way there. I'll have my reads regardless in a few.

Even without a scan, I think I've probably made the most pro-villager play in the game by pushing Raven as a lynch target when I could have put anybody in the crosshairs. It's quite a stretch to have me on your short list.

[EagleFan]

Okay, now I caught up.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

So both the claimed seers say that I scanned as good but you still have an evil read on me? I'll remember that when I'm simming Chicago's games...

lol, yep. I'm an idiot. Your play has so confused me I believe no one. Anyone have one of those handy cheat sheet thingy's on who has claimed what handy?

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Even without a scan, I think I've probably made the most pro-villager play in the game by pushing Raven as a lynch target when I could have put anybody in the crosshairs. It's quite a stretch to have me on your short list.

I'm good at stretching. I'd sit back and not post and wait for everything to play out but what good would that do? If I am confusing everyone then I can just bite my tongue.

[EagleFan]

With path's read:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by timmae

I'm good at stretching. I'd sit back and not post and wait for everything to play out but what good would that do? If I am confusing everyone then I can just bite my tongue.

Post away! The only biting around here should be by wolves.

[EagleFan]

Feeling okay about timmae and JAG with their votes on day two. No way they sacrifice a wolf while another wolf makes a false claim. Now that is unless Shoveler comes back as the actual seer tonight.

Vaimes could still be a possible. Don't think font would vote Raven at that point yesterday to put him close to the lead and in danger.

[EagleFan]

The above post can be thrown out the window if Shoveler ends up being the real seer; though I am inclined to believe path (if nothing more than to make me feel good about my initial Shoveler read).

[Zinto]

As of Post 824

Shoveler 7-Path(763), Font(765), Vaimes(766), JAG(771), Narcizo(773), Grover(783), EagleFan(784), Autumn(793), The Jackal(800)
Autumn 1-Timmae(728)

[EagleFan]

So... path reveals... but Shoveler still hasn't voted for him or acted at all like a true seer being countered would act...

[path12]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

The above post can be thrown out the window if Shoveler ends up being the real seer; though I am inclined to believe path (if nothing more than to make me feel good about my initial Shoveler read).

I'd think me telling you to go cool off when I was trying to shift the narrative on you would have helped you believe me as well.

[path12]

Originally Posted by timmae

lol, yep. I'm an idiot. Your play has so confused me I believe no one. Anyone have one of those handy cheat sheet thingy's on who has claimed what handy?

Vaimes claimed Martyr but told town to ignore it.
Shoveler claimed Red when he was gonna get lynched.
I claimed Red the next day with evidence left in thread.
Narcizo subsequently claimed Martyr. Vaimes has not fought him on that.

That it? I think so.

[Narcizo]

Anyone would think people don't read my posts.

Vaimes isn't the martyr - I am. Vaimes never seriously meant he was the martyr. Vaimes claiming martyr should not be interpreted in any way as him being bad. If anyone says that I'm going to come back from the dead and box their ears.

I would like to change my suspicion list a bit.

Most suspicious at the top this time:

Grover
Jag
Jackal
Timmae
Vaimes
Fonti

So not actually a radical change to be honest I've just realised.

Jag's vote on Raven was when it was fait accomplice. Jackal's votes have been pretty bogus but I've had a better vibe from Jackal than Jag. I feel very confident that font and Vaimes are village, particularly fonti. And that should be enough to see us win.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Grover

May I ask you to expand on the read on me?

I had a slight evil read on D1 for the jokey posts about the redskins. I am fine with a lone vote but your reasoning re: redskins was weird. D2 you called out vaimes for lurking. Odd post. D3 has been better. Adjusting for recent reads you are slightly evil/neutral in my book.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Anyone would think people don't read my posts.

Originally Posted by path12

Narcizo subsequently claimed Martyr. Vaimes has not fought him on that.

I <3 Path

[Autumn]

More Redskin-related problems. Where does it end?

[EagleFan]

I see zero chance that brit is NK day one if JAG is a wolf. JAG could have just as easily voted Autumn, it was still a question between them at that point.

With only three wolves it would be a ballsy move to vote one out when the other one had previously made a false claim as that makes it 9:2 (where we are at now) and could be sitting 8:1 after tonight with potentially 4 cleared villagers.

Actually, I just talked myself into why I may want to dial back my view on JAG. He may be a worthy scan option tonight.

Was JAG around much day one?

[Narcizo]

Well I'm off to lose my pokeball to mean ole Team Rocket. Go Team Path!

I won't be around so I'll ....

Vote Nightfall

[path12]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I see zero chance that brit is NK day one if JAG is a wolf. JAG could have just as easily voted Autumn, it was still a question between them at that point.

With only three wolves it would be a ballsy move to vote one out when the other one had previously made a false claim as that makes it 9:2 (where we are at now) and could be sitting 8:1 after tonight with potentially 4 cleared villagers.

Actually, I just talked myself into why I may want to dial back my view on JAG. He may be a worthy scan option tonight.

Was JAG around much day one?

JAG started a new job this week? so he has not been around much. If he wasn't around that could explain the N1 kill better. I wondered about him early but lately I've gone neutral.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by timmae

I had a slight evil read on D1 for the jokey posts about the redskins. I am fine with a lone vote but your reasoning re: redskins was weird. D2 you called out vaimes for lurking. Odd post. D3 has been better. Adjusting for recent reads you are slightly evil/neutral in my book.

Haha, I was using the Skins as a meta-excuse to vote for Jackal. He and I are good friends, so it was a nice little jab.

Thanks for answering the question though, much appreciated.

[Narcizo]

Wolf-Jag couldn't tie it up by voting Autumn. He might as well dance on a table performing the I-am-a-wolf dance.

[path12]

Let's also make clear that I'm not being completely honest with my feelings on people today because I would like my scan to live if my guess is wrong.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Autumn

More Redskin-related problems. Where does it end?

we're on the up and up, damnit

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Wolf-Jag couldn't tie it up by voting Autumn. He might as well dance on a table performing the I-am-a-wolf dance.

Because a villager would never tie a vote...

(ducks from the tomatoes being thrown)

[The Jackal]

And I know my votes don't do much for me, and I could let someone else point it out, but if I was looking in as an outsider I find it very unlikely that all 3 wolves would have been on Autumn AND stayed on Autumn when that run on Raven started.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Because a villager would never tie a vote...

(ducks from the tomatoes being thrown)

Not to save someone else.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Not to save someone else.

[The Jackal]

In any event, we're in great shape

[The Jackal]

I don't know what to think of Grover - his votes are hidden but he qualified it by saying he would be out. Makes it harder to get reads when people aren't forced to move their vote around.

[The Jackal]

Feel pretty good about JAG

[Narcizo]

I'd probably scan Jag just because, well, then you get a cleared villager Jag which is a bonus in anyone's books. I still think Grover is teh wolf though.

[The Jackal]

timmae prolly looking the most suspicious to me at the moment

[timmae]

OK. My reads are as follows.

Good - EF (yeah! Let's throw tomatoes!), Autumn (99.9% likely since path and narc lying would equal victory for townies)

Good to evil (based on content provided throughout game mainly):
Font
JAG
Vaimes
Grover
Jackal

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Anyone would think people don't read my posts.

Vaimes isn't the martyr - I am. Vaimes never seriously meant he was the martyr. Vaimes claiming martyr should not be interpreted in any way as him being bad. If anyone says that I'm going to come back from the dead and box their ears.

I would like to change my suspicion list a bit.

Most suspicious at the top this time:

Grover
Jag
Jackal
Timmae
Vaimes
Fonti

So not actually a radical change to be honest I've just realised.

Jag's vote on Raven was when it was fait accomplice. Jackal's votes have been pretty bogus but I've had a better vibe from Jackal than Jag. I feel very confident that font and Vaimes are village, particularly fonti. And that should be enough to see us win.

I also voted Shoveler before Raven and was the first to say I thought he was suspicious at the end of Day 1 before he was brought up as a candidate. I'm a little surprised to be next most distrusted by you.