Werewolf CXXXII: THE CUBE (Game Over: Construction Workers win!)

[Danny]

Hmmm, no vote from Tyrith at this point. I'm debating a switch as this level of activity doesn't really vibe with us having a wolf.

[Danny]

Alright, I hope this doesn't come back to haunt us and it goes against my vibe from PF earlier, but I don't like how the day has gone down at all.

Unvote Narciszo
Vote Packerfanatic

[mauchow]

Do we let Danny have the last say on this thing?

[Danny]

I think you're just talking to me lol. I think it's pretty obvious I'm trying to vote who I think will nab us a wolf as I've now been willing to vote either Narcizo or Packer. I just can't believe the wolves wouldn't even be around if their man was on the block right now. To me the vote seems to have gone down as if a villager was who was going to get hanged.

[mauchow]

I think we hit a villager. I wanted to switch. I had it typed up to make the switch after your vote but I couldn't pull the trigger. Lets hope PF is a wolf. This game is tough to figure out where the wolves are with no scanning, minimal roles to get a circle of trust, etc.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I think we hit a villager. I wanted to switch. I had it typed up to make the switch after your vote but I couldn't pull the trigger. Lets hope PF is a wolf. This game is tough to figure out where the wolves are with no scanning, minimal roles to get a circle of trust, etc.

Yeah, but the good news is the lack of night kills means one lynch doesn't hurt us too bad and we get a chance to get it right the next day. I actually see very little chance of us losing this.

[Danny]

I actually think there is a decent chance we hit a wolf based on how the voting happened today. Really though, where is the activity?

[CrimsonFox]

I took it all.

[Autumn]

/ghost I'd be active.

[Danny]

I think so, pretty funny that a day 2 lynch is the runaway leader in posts. In fact you had as more posts than several of the current players combined.

[Danny]

Should just say you had more posts

[PackerFanatic]

You got a villager

[The Jackal]

Results coming shortly.

[The Jackal]

5 - PackerFanatic - Narcizo (777), hoopsguy (790), mauboy1 (792), MrBug708 (797), Danny (802)
4 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (778), ntndeacon (789), Telle (795), Schmidty (800)

[The Jackal]

Tonight you have chosen the gold door. But alas, this is not the olympics.

Poor choice! You are ushered through and the room immediately turns dark. In the pitch black you hear muttering and sighing but cannot see much of anything.

The screen appears and shows PackerFanatic, the choice of today's lynch. He looks somber and shakes his head, his eyes darting from side to side expectantly. As if on cue small holes open on the sides of the chamber and water begins to pour in.

[CrimsonFox]

[Danny]

My vote counts for both candidates? I think the final tally was 5-4

[The Jackal]

The Jester appears to you, a look of annoyance upon his face.

"I'd say there should be extra consequences for so many of you failing to get in room choices, but you've made your own poor decisions. This is your last warning. Suffice it to say, another showing like this and there will be more unexpected death."

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Danny

My vote counts for both candidates? I think the final tally was 5-4

(missed Schmidty's vote, fixed, result stays the same)

[The Jackal]

As the Jester finishes speaking, you notice PackerFanatic is fully submerged in water and moving no more. His lifeless body floats among the wreckage the Cube has inflicted.

PackerFanatic was a vanilla cube rat!

[Danny]

ugh, well I screwed the pooch there.

[The Jackal]

As you mourn the loss of PF, the new room you have entered flashes with light for a moment, showing the corpse of hoopsguy. His head has been beaten to a pulp with a hammer, clearly the doing of construction workers.

hoopsguy was the commando!

[Danny]

Really see no reason not to go with Narcizo now. I shouldn't have second guessed my vote, but I can correct that now.

Vote Narcizo

[The Jackal]

Your choices:

The first door is burgundy, has the letter B and the number sequence 3 1 2 5 8 8 2 6 2 6

The second door is onyx, has the letter O and the number sequence 1 8 9 2 4 4 5 3 1 6

The third door is sapphire, has the letter S and the number sequence 3 9 4 8 7 6 7 4 5 1

[Narcizo]

I honestly thought Packer had to be a wolf. I don't understand why he would shift attention to Telle under the circumstances otherwise. At least we're going to get a wolf today or tomorrow.

Vote Danny

[Narcizo]

Day One

00:50 #82 - Autumn votes CrimsonFox (1)
02:09 #84 - Narcizo votes Zinto (1)
02:32 #86 - McKerney votes Darth Vilus (1)
09:48 #97 - Packer votes Autumn (1)
10:32 #100 - NTN votes Zinto (2)
12:18 #130 - Dwardzala votes Darth Vilus (2)

16:49 #177 - Darth Vilus votes J23 (1)
17:25 #181 - Schmidty votes Zinto (3)
17:29 #182 - Bhlloy votes CrimsonFox (2)
18:07 #192 - Tyrith votes CrimsonFox (3)
18:10 #193 - J23 votes Darth Vilus (3)
18:20 #194 - CrimsonFox votes Darth Vilus (4)

19:22 #199 - Abe Sargent votes Zinto (4)
19:36 #200 - Mauboy votes CrimsonFox (4)
19:42 #201 - Zinto votes Darth Vilus (5)
19:42 #202 - MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5)
20:50 #209 - Hoopsguy votes Darth Vilus (6)
21:48 #214 - Telle votes Darth Vilus (7)

[Narcizo]

Day Two – Main Thread

23:11 #267 Tyrith votes dwardzala (1)
01:06 #305 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)
03:58 #331 Narcizo votes MrBug (1)
08:53 #359 Danny votes ntndeacon (2)
09:20 #360 PackerFanatic votes dwardzala (2)
12:07 #372 Zinto votes Schmidty (1)
14:49 #383 Narcizo unvotes MrBug (0)
14:49 #383 Narcizo votes Schmidty (2)
15:18 #384 J23 votes dwardzala (3)
16:08 #390 CrimsonFox votes ntndeacon (3)
16:16 #391 Hoopsguy votes dwardzala (4)

21:54 #441 Danny unvotes ntndeacon (2)
21:54 #441 Danny votes dwardzala (5)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy unvotes ntndeacon (1)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (6)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox unvotes ntndeacon (0)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox votes dwardzala (7)
21:56 #446 Bhlloy unvotes dwardzala (6)
22:00 #453 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)

Day Two – Splitter Thread

09:59 #44 mauboy votes CrimsonFox (1)
14:04 #49 Abe Seargent votes CrimsonFox (2)
14:58 #50 mckerney votes CrimsonFox (3)
15:56 #53 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (4)
16:25 #55 Schmidty votes Zinto (1)
16:40 #56 MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5)
17:50 #57 ntndeacon votes Zinto (2)
18:37 #59 dwardzala votes CrimsonFox (6)

20:00 #61 Autumn unvotes CrimsonFox (5)
20:00 #61 Autumn votes Zinto (3)
20:30 #64 Telle votes CrimsonFox (6)
21:57 #73 Autumn unvotes Zinto (2)
21:57 #73 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (7)

Combined

23:11 #267 Tyrith votes dwardzala (1)
01:06 #305 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)
03:58 #331 Narcizo votes MrBug (1)
08:53 #359 Danny votes ntndeacon (2)
09:20 #360 PackerFanatic votes dwardzala (2)
09:59 #44 mauboy votes CrimsonFox (1)
12:07 #372 Zinto votes Schmidty (1)
14:04 #49 Abe Seargent votes CrimsonFox (2)
14:49 #383 Narcizo unvotes MrBug (0)
14:49 #383 Narcizo votes Schmidty (2)
14:58 #50 mckerney votes CrimsonFox (3)
15:18 #384 J23 votes dwardzala (3)
15:56 #53 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (4)

16:08 #390 CrimsonFox votes ntndeacon (3)
16:16 #391 Hoopsguy votes dwardzala (4)
16:25 #55 Schmidty votes Zinto (1)
16:40 #56 MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5)
17:50 #57 ntndeacon votes Zinto (2)
18:37 #59 dwardzala votes CrimsonFox (6)
20:00 #61 Autumn unvotes CrimsonFox (5)
20:00 #61 Autumn votes Zinto (3)
20:30 #64 Telle votes CrimsonFox (6)

21:54 #441 Danny unvotes ntndeacon (2)
21:54 #441 Danny votes dwardzala (5)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy unvotes ntndeacon (1)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (6)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox unvotes ntndeacon (0)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox votes dwardzala (7)
21:56 #446 Bhlloy unvotes dwardzala (6)
21:57 #73 Autumn unvotes Zinto (2)
21:57 #73 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (7)
22:00 #453 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)

[Narcizo]

Day Four

22:48 #596 Tyrith votes Zinto (1)
02:03 #622 MrBug votes Zinto (2)
03:30 #630 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (1)
09:18 #634 Packer votes Bhlloy (2)
11:13 #637 Bhlloy votes Zinto (3)
14:39 #640 Danny votes Bhlloy (3)
15:34 #641 Zinto votes Bhlloy (4)
16:55 #647 Hoops votes Zinto (4)
17:01 #648 Schmidty votes Zinto (5)
18:21 #650 J23 votes Zinto (6)
19:31 #652 mckerney votes Bhlloy (5)
21:57 #656 mau votes Zinto (7)

[Narcizo]

Day Five

02:13 #690 Narcizo votes Packer (1)
09:01 #697 Packer votes J23 (1)
14:58 #712 J23 votes Packer (2)
16:23 #719 Telle votes J23 (2)
16:49 #722 mau votes Telle (1)
19:08 #727 Tyrith votes J23 (3)
20:59 #735 Hoops votes J23 (4)
21:40 #738 MrBug votes J23 (5)
21:43 #740 Schmidty votes Packer (3)

Day Six

01:45 #759 Narcizo votes Danny (1)
08:57 #768 Packer votes Telle (1)
09:02 #771 Danny votes Narcizo (1)
14:13 #777 Narcizo unvotes Danny (0)
14:13 #777 Narcizo votes Packer (1)
14:26 #778 Packer unvotes Telle (0)
14:26 #778 Packer votes Narcizo (2)
14:45 #779 Mau voted Telle (1)

16:59 #789 ntn votes Narcizo (3)
17:06 #790 Hoops votes Packer (2)
18:18 #792 mau unvotes Telle (0)
18:18 #792 Mau votes Packer (3)
18:23 #793 Telle votes Narcizo (4)
19:07 #797 MrBug votes Packer (4)
21:03 #799 Schmidty votes Narcizo (5)
21:53 #802 Danny unvotes Narcizo (4)
21:53 #802 Danny votes Packer (5)

[Narcizo]

Day One

7 Darth Vilus - mckerney (86), dwardzala (130), J23 (193), CrimsonFox (194), Zinto (201), hoopsguy (209), Telle (214)
5 CrimsonFox - Autumn (82), bhlloy (182), Tyrith (192), mauboy1 (200), MrBug (202)
4 Zinto - Narcizo (84), ntndeacon (100), Schmidty (181), Abe Sargent (199)
1 Autumn - PackerFanatic (97)
1 J23 - Darth Vilus (177)

No Vote: Danny

Day Two - Main Thread

6 dwardzala - Tyrith (267), PackerFanatic (360), J23 (384), hoopsguy (391), Danny (441), CrimsonFox (443)
2 Schmidty - Zinto (372), Narcizo (383)
1 ntndeacon - bhlloy (453)

Day Two - Splitter Thread

7 CrimsonFox - mauboy1 (44), Abe Sargent (49), mckerney (50), MrBug708 (56), dwardzala (59), Telle (64), Autumn (73)
2 Zinto - Schmidty (55), ntndeacon (57)

Day Three

12 dwardzala - Narcizo (524), PackerFanatic (532), mauboy1 (540), Tyrith (545), bhlloy (554), Telle (555), MrBug708 (558), hoopsguy (568), Danny (577), Schmidty (579), mckerney (582), J23 (584), ntndeacon (587)
1 Zinto - Abe Sargent (553)
1 Schmidty - Zinto (562)

Day Four

7 Zinto - Tyrith (596), MrBug708 (622), bhlloy (637), hoopsguy (647), Schmidty (648), J23 (650), mauboy1 (656)
5 bhlloy - Narcizo (630), PackerFanatic (634), Danny (640), Zinto (641), mckerney (652)

No Vote: NTN, Telle

Day Five

5 J23 - PackerFanatic (697), Telle (719), Tyrith (727), hoopsguy (735), MrBug708 (738)
3 PackerFanatic - Narcizo (690), J23 (712), Schmidty (740)
1 Telle - mauboy1 (722)

No Vote: NTN, Danny

Day Six

5 PackerFanatic - Narcizo (777), hoopsguy (790), mauboy1 (792), MrBug708 (797), Danny (802)
4 Narcizo - PackerFanatic (778), ntndeacon (789), Telle (795), Schmidty (800)

No Vote: Tyrith

[Narcizo]

8 people left. I really hope you guys are right about there only being two wolves left or we could be in trouble here. If there's four you vote off me, then vote off Danny and there's what? 6 people left? 3 villagers, 2 construction workers and a scientist. You make one bad lynch and you're in a lot of trouble. Danny's been saying that there's 3 wolves all along but think about the maths.

From the wolves' point of view if there's two teams of three then that means they are 16:3 with only one night kill at the start. I'd call that nigh on impossible odds for them to overcome. 15:4 seems much more likely for each team. Everyone has been seeing it from the point of view of the village thinking 9:2:8 is too steep a slope for the village. I'd say it's more reasonable than 16:3 for a wolf team.

So Danny switched his vote, knowing that I'm bound to get lynched today anyway. His argument being "Why would I switch if I'm a wolf and I'm voting for two different villagers"? Then I come up villager so he gets lynched and if there's 3 wolves left after that it's looking very good for 2 construction workers (if that's the case). When he went along with my argument that there must be a wolf in the main thread then he knew he would eventually get lynched but this is just the perfect result for him. He culls three villagers before he goes down and the wolves are in a really strong spot. In fact if he thinks that there's a scientist in the mix he takes one of them out as well.

I understand that I'm going to get voted off today but I'm going to look at who the other construction worker(s) and a possible scientist could be. Because if I'm right the village is going to suffer because of my mistakes.

Danny switching to Packer makes me think that there's probably another wolf voting me, possibly two and he didn't want to get lumped in with them. So I'd look at ntn, Telle or Schmidty. Mauboy's voting has been really random and if there is another scientist then I'd look at him closely - he pushed as much as Abe for a unified vote day two and he's been trying to stay out of the vote for the main thread people as much as possible. Why? Because he knows that one of us is a wolf and he doesn't want to get caught on the wrong side of a vote between us. Only after Hoops calls him out does he commit to a vote on one of us. It's annoying the hell out of me that I didn't see that before but there you go. Again, after you vote me and Danny and if you find another construction worker and the game isn't over I'll bet nickels to dimes that mau is the scientist.

If all this is another paranoid fantasy and there are only three wolves then your construction workers are Danny and probably Telle, Schmidty or ntn.

There you go. I shan't steer the conversation any more.

[Narcizo]

OK if Danny and the rest of you are right and there are only two wolves left you don't lose a huge amount by lynching Danny first, right? You can always lynch me the next day and there's only one wolf left to find in a group of 6 with one cleared villager. The only possible way the wolves can succeed is to get the numbers down to Tyrith and the last wolf - chances are pretty bad for a wolf victory.

If I'm right and there's 3 construction workers and a scientist left then losing another villager and only then taking out Danny means you are in a whole heap of trouble.

Think about it - if you all believe that you are right about the wolf team's size then you've nothing to lose by lynching Danny first. I'm not going anywhere. Are you sure you're right about the wolf teams? Because if you're not then you could be handing the game to the wolves.

I know I'm coming off as a wolf trying to save his skin one more time but just forget about that. I get that a lot by this stage of the game because of my fixations. Hoops knows this, which is why he believed me yesterday - he saw me put my foot in my mouth time after time in the Chess game and knew I was a villager doing it (because he was a wolf).

If I'm right then there's already two extra votes going to go against me along with Danny's, dunno where the scientist will vote - probably on Danny if he wants a chance of winning the game but obviously he won't want to stand out. That means every villager has to vote Danny. Yeah, I know it's a reach but there you go. If you're a villager, then are you sure that there are only 2 wolves left in the game? If not then your safest bet is to vote to lynch Danny.

Now I've finished.

[Tyrith]

Yeah, sorry, I totally spaced yesterday - didn't think about it while I was at work, and then I went to hang out with a buddy and was gone for four hours, when I expected to be gone for less than half that time.

If we started out 11:8, the game pretty much sets up to be 50/50 except that one of the teams knows who three of their teammates are and gets to communicate with them, and the other side is clueless. We'd be getting slaughtered at this point, I think - remember, we got super lucky on D2 to get to where we are now.

Missed my guard action yesterday, but I had guarded hoops the day before and was going to be protecting myself, so that's as it is. I must honestly say I haven't had the desire to care enough about the doors to figure it out, so I just voted randomly for a few days...yeaaah, sucks for me.

That said, beyond that I can generally buy what Narc is selling, so I'll vote for Danny for now. My intent is to be around after work; we'll see if anything interesting happens.

VOTE DANNY

[mauchow]

I was going Danny before narcs long desperate attempts to save himself. I think weve got a wolf in him. I think we'll also need to look elsewhere for the last (assuming) wolf. I'm not so sure we'll find one in you. I'm still not convinced telle is a villager but we'll come to that fork in the road soon enough.

Danny's move yesterday is basically reason enough for me this time around. He usually has better and more calculated moves and that definitely was not a typical Danny move.

vote danny

Unless someone has a better target.. this is where I'm at.

Regarding the amount of wolves narc. Without a seer the wolves for the most part are safe. They can't be be found so for there to be 4 wolves on each team is a reach. That's my opinion. Three seems to be a more realistic number.

If anybody has an idea of the right door we need to speak up and make sure we get it right as the jester has forewarned a probable death tonight in addition to a Lynch.

[mauchow]

I would also consider voting ntn or schmidty. Players that are sitting back and enjoying the ride concern me...especially in this set up. Quiet players tend to get seer scans and now without that we can't whittle away the quiet players.

[Danny]

Interesting. Why on earth would I have switched my vote if I was a wolf and brought extra suspicion to myself? We were not anywhere near end game and if I was a wolf I would have left my vote and buried Narcizo.

[Danny]

While I fully believe Narc to be a wolf, it's pretty funny someone like me who was actually trying to weigh the events of the day and make the right vote is the one getting the heat. If I do end up lynched, following Narc who seems pretty obvious to be a wolf, I would go after some of the more quiet players in the game.

[Telle]

I'm going to stick with my vote from yesterday. Danny may or may not be a wolf, but I don't see anything to gain in piling on to his votes.

vote Narcizo

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

Interesting. Why on earth would I have switched my vote if I was a wolf and brought extra suspicion to myself? We were not anywhere near end game and if I was a wolf I would have left my vote and buried Narcizo.

I was wondering the same thing and I think I have an idea about that. If you switch then you reckon that you're ensuring two more villagers dead - Packer's and then either people vote you today and see you're a wolf and then everyone thinks you were saving me anyway so I must be a wolf and they lynch me tomorrow. Or they lynch me today and then they lynch you tomorrow. Keep your vote on me and lynch me yesterday and there's a chance Packer beats you in a contest today.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I was wondering the same thing and I think I have an idea about that. If you switch then you reckon that you're ensuring two more villagers dead - Packer's and then either people vote you today and see you're a wolf and then everyone thinks you were saving me anyway so I must be a wolf and they lynch me tomorrow. Or they lynch me today and then they lynch you tomorrow. Keep your vote on me and lynch me yesterday and there's a chance Packer beats you in a contest today.

Seems a bit of a stretch, but it looks like you might be ok as Tyrith and Mau are buying some of your magic beans.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Telle

Don't know if I'll be around at deadline, so I need to get a vote in now (my son managed to smash his finger while playing musical chairs at school today.. we have a 7:30 appointment with his doctor and may have to go for x-rays).

Turns out my little guy did manage to fracture his finger. He's four and a half years old, and somehow I think last night was just the first of many trips for x-rays that we'll be doing in his future.

[Danny]

That sucks, hopefully if those trips aren't few, they'll at least be far between.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Telle

Turns out my little guy did manage to fracture his finger. He's four and a half years old, and somehow I think last night was just the first of many trips for x-rays that we'll be doing in his future.

That stinks - I have a four and a half year old too who had his first emergency room visit this year. He still hasn't slowed down.

[mauchow]

Danny.. you are both telling the same story essentially. We either find a wolf today or tomorrow with either of you but with no real evidence either way against you two its really a crapshoot. I was never really sure in any of my votes and today is no different. Ill take a look at the analysis a bit more closely but with your voting record it says you are very unlikely to be a scientist but I think you're just a lucky construction worker. For now I'm sticking with you.

[mauchow]

unvote danny
vote schmidty

Fuck it. I reserve the right to change it later. I'm lost.

[ntndeacon]

One thing against voting Schmidty, (and the reason I won't be voting for him) he was the first to go against the construction worker Abe's plan of uniformity.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Telle

Turns out my little guy did manage to fracture his finger. He's four and a half years old, and somehow I think last night was just the first of many trips for x-rays that we'll be doing in his future.

Sorry to hear that. Hope it heals quickly.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

unvote danny
vote schmidty

Fuck it. I reserve the right to change it later. I'm lost.

I don't get the vote for me, as it seems a bit random. My knee-jerk reaction is to vote you back, but I am more and more sold on Narc, even after all of his reasoning and postings.

[Schmidty]

In fact, unless something dramatic happens, I might as well just do this now:

Vote Narcizo

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

One thing against voting Schmidty, (and the reason I won't be voting for him) he was the first to go against the construction worker Abe's plan of uniformity.

I vaguely remember reading a wolf in the main thread was against a uniform vote so that doesn't hold much water in my opinion. I'll have to read back to find it which will be when I get home. If it wasn't Abe then it would need to be one of the scientists that was against uniformity.