The FOFC Mole Official Thread - Page 17

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 11:03 AM

Spotters only get to view the action and give advice to the hunter.

Also, I have decided that the evader needs SIX thumbprints to win, not five. This is based on some testing I did to make it balanced. Six will make a much better game. Sorry for the error on that.

Again, six out of eight is required to win. Any six will do.

edit: and yeah, it turns out I hit preview message instead of send message in my message to BrianD, so he didn't get anything. Duh. I remember hitting preview, I just must not have hit send afterwards. Fixed that problem, too.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

OK, missed that. 35 by 35.

Sounds good. Any other advice?

BrianD · 09-17-2008, 11:14 AM

OK guys, I've got the map and am ready to go. I am off to lunch, so it will be a couple of hours before I return. I'll give you guys one freebie.

MJ4H, please make the obvious move for me.

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 11:19 AM

Done, the hunter may move 3 squares.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 11:22 AM

Looks like we have some time before Brian returns. Thoughts, spotters?

path12 · 09-17-2008, 11:32 AM

If you move northwest, you're in a channel that you should follow as far west/northwest as you can. You'll have the solid core to your north.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 12:07 PM

I made my move. By the way, can one of you spotters tell me what the obvious move was?

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 12:57 PM

Turn 1 is complete. Turn 2 has been sent out. I have changed my mind and I will use the new turn post to list each team's roll.

Remember, also, spotters, you have a 50% chance of seeing the evader and a 50% of missing him when he is in a yellow zone. You have a 75% chance of seeing him when he is in the white zone. If you don't see him on your map, then you don't get to see him for that turn.

Rolls for this turn:
evader: 2
hunter: 2

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Turn 1 is complete. Turn 2 has been sent out. I have changed my mind and I will use the new turn post to list each team's roll.

Remember, also, spotters, you have a 50% chance of seeing the evader and a 50% of missing him when he is in a yellow zone. You have a 75% chance of seeing him when he is in the white zone. If you don't see him on your map, then you don't get to see him for that turn.

Rolls for this turn:
evader: 2
hunter: 2

Does these percentages apply for the hunter as well, or do I just always see him if he's in my radius?

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 01:04 PM

The percentages only apply to the spotters.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 01:14 PM

Anyway spotters, I went a little northwest, and at the moment, I can only go west -- I'm a little worried that this path is going to take me way south. Do you guys think I should be worried, or do you think I'll be able to cut west very soon?

BrianD · 09-17-2008, 02:07 PM

I've got my next move in.

path12 · 09-17-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I made my move. By the way, can one of you spotters tell me what the obvious move was?

I don't see him now, but the obvious move was just that he could only move in one direction.

path12 · 09-17-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Anyway spotters, I went a little northwest, and at the moment, I can only go west -- I'm a little worried that this path is going to take me way south. Do you guys think I should be worried, or do you think I'll be able to cut west very soon?

You're fine -- keep going west and just go north/northwest every chance you get. You're in a corridor so you can't get too far south yet.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I don't see him now, but the obvious move was just that he could only move in one direction.

I figured that much.

What direction was that? I guess it doesn't matter, since he can probably turn in this move, but I was just curious which way he went first.

path12 · 09-17-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I figured that much.

What direction was that? I guess it doesn't matter, since he can probably turn in this move, but I was just curious which way he went first.

East. He started in the corner.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

East. He started in the corner.

Thanks -- I just thought it could have seen East or South.

samifan24 · 09-17-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

You're fine -- keep going west and just go north/northwest every chance you get. You're in a corridor so you can't get too far south yet.

Agreed. I'd say go north more than northwest so you don't pin yourself down in a corner chasing after BrianD. FYI, I can't see the evader on my turn 2 map.

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 04:56 PM

Turn 3 sent:

Rolls:
Evader - 1
Hunter - 2

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 06:09 PM

My move is sent in.

samifan24 · 09-17-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

My move is sent in.

I'd recommend going west before you go north now.

Passacaglia · 09-17-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24

I'd recommend going west before you go north now.

That's based on spotting him?

samifan24 · 09-17-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That's based on spotting him?

Yes. I couldn't see him on turn 2 but now I can see him on turn 3 and all he did was drop down to the south a little bit. Again, I'd recommend moving west so you stay parallel with him rather than charging in at him and letting him slip away because of a hasty move.

Thomkal · 09-17-2008, 07:46 PM

sorry guys just getting caught up here. Looks like we want to move Pass to the west and then north in a bit correct? I can see Brian again. I assume he will head towards a fingerprint. You're still a long way away from him Pass.

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 09:16 PM

Turn 4 sent

rolls:
evader-1
hunter-1

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 09:18 PM

Thinking about making the move ranges 2-3 and 2-4. 1 square per turn seems silly. In fact, I think I am doing that now. Make it:

evader-2
hunter-2

From now on, same ranges just without the possibility of moving 1 square. We want to finish this before Christmas.

MJ4H · 09-17-2008, 09:27 PM

Turn 5 sent.

rolls:
evader-2
hunter-3

path12 · 09-17-2008, 09:29 PM

Pass, he's not visible this turn, but I'm certain based on where he was before that he is heading south towards a thumbprint. Keep going west until you can cut northwest. We may be able to get you in a position where you'll have the angle on him. It's going to take awhile though.

Thomkal · 09-17-2008, 09:48 PM

I agree with Path on both points. Pretty sure he was going for that thumbprint to the south.

samifan24 · 09-17-2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Pass, he's not visible this turn, but I'm certain based on where he was before that he is heading south towards a thumbprint. Keep going west until you can cut northwest. We may be able to get you in a position where you'll have the angle on him. It's going to take awhile though.

Agreed. I can't see him either. Pass, you still have to go all the way to the west by 12 squares, including obstacles, just to be in the same row as the thumbprint we think he's going after. He's a long way away. The good news is that once you get near him, you can sweep over to the east and race him to the other two thumbprints near the top of the map.

path12 · 09-17-2008, 09:59 PM

Sami, I'm thinking that he shouldn't go that far west, but position himself in between those two northwestish thumbprint zones in order to be able to cut him off from whereever he tries to go after that. Thoughts?

MJ4H · 09-18-2008, 08:07 AM

Turn 6 sent

Rolls:
evader-3
hunter-2

Passacaglia · 09-18-2008, 08:17 AM

Spotters -- I think we need to talk about what to do next time I have three or more moves to make, due to my limited visibility. I don't want to give too much of my position away to Brian -- or do you guys think we've talked about it so much that he's figured it out by now? Also, can you guys see where I am? If you can, you probably know what I'm talking about. My move is pretty obvious for this round, but let's be ready for our next big step.

Thomkal · 09-18-2008, 10:13 AM

I think he's got a good idea where you are now in a general area at least based on some of the more recent spotter comments. He should get his first fingerprint either in the next move or the one after. We need to see which direction he's going after that.

You definitely want to take that path heading north that you are about to come on, the intersection is one away west, then north. We may have to double you back if goes the other direction though.

I think we should go right after him and not go and wait in between fingerprints, but that's just me.

path12 · 09-18-2008, 02:38 PM

Sorry guys, swamped today. Will try and help when I can.

Passacaglia · 09-18-2008, 03:23 PM

Sounds good, guys. Sorry it took so long to get my turn in -- work kept me busy today.

samifan24 · 09-18-2008, 06:10 PM

I agree with Thomkal on heading north but I think we should take more of a wait and see approach to determine which direction he's going after he picks up his first thumbprint, which will be in the next two turns. We can chase him but we need to close the gap and I'm afraid that we'll over commit towards one thumbprint and let him slip by.

MJ4H · 09-18-2008, 06:41 PM

AFAIK I'm waiting on BrianD's move for this turn.

BrianD · 09-18-2008, 08:22 PM

You should have it already...

BrianD · 09-18-2008, 08:23 PM

I take that back. I believe I have the results of my move, but I am waiting on the number of moves for the next turn...unless I missed it.

BrianD · 09-18-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

Turn 6 sent

Rolls:
evader-3
hunter-2

You sent me the results of turn 7 which should be this move.

MJ4H · 09-18-2008, 09:05 PM

BrianD: The best I can figure out, I need a 3 move string from you before I can continue. I'm not sure where the break down in communication came, but it was almost definitely my fault. A move of 3 from you should get us back on.

BrianD · 09-18-2008, 09:06 PM

OK, it is on its way.

MJ4H · 09-18-2008, 09:19 PM

OK the next turn has been sent.

Next Rolls:
evader-2
hunter-4

BrianD: I'm about to send you an explanation.

Thomkal · 09-18-2008, 09:40 PM

Okay now I'm confused. Brian stayed put, and Pass went by the north turn I suggested you take. You will not want to continue going west on the path you are on. I'm gone for the rest of the night.

samifan24 · 09-18-2008, 10:14 PM

Pass, I'd recommend moving northeast now.

MJ4H · 09-19-2008, 08:06 AM

Yeah I might have missed sending something to one group or sent something twice. We should be back on track now.

Latest move has been sent. Next rolls:
Evader-3
Hunter-4

MJ4H · 09-19-2008, 08:12 AM

As time goes on in this mission, the shadows grow deeper as the sun sets. The evader's chances of staying hidden gradually increase over time.

Come on guys, that's just common sense!

BrianD · 09-19-2008, 08:22 AM

We might want to help our host keep track of moves. My latest move is in.

Passacaglia · 09-19-2008, 08:29 AM

Mine too.

09-17-2008, 11:03 AM	#801
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Spotters only get to view the action and give advice to the hunter. Also, I have decided that the evader needs SIX thumbprints to win, not five. This is based on some testing I did to make it balanced. Six will make a much better game. Sorry for the error on that. Again, six out of eight is required to win. Any six will do. edit: and yeah, it turns out I hit preview message instead of send message in my message to BrianD, so he didn't get anything. Duh. I remember hitting preview, I just must not have hit send afterwards. Fixed that problem, too. Last edited by MJ4H : 09-17-2008 at 11:04 AM.

09-17-2008, 11:32 AM	#806
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	If you move northwest, you're in a channel that you should follow as far west/northwest as you can. You'll have the solid core to your north. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

09-17-2008, 09:29 PM	#828
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Pass, he's not visible this turn, but I'm certain based on where he was before that he is heading south towards a thumbprint. Keep going west until you can cut northwest. We may be able to get you in a position where you'll have the angle on him. It's going to take awhile though. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

09-17-2008, 09:59 PM	#831
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Sami, I'm thinking that he shouldn't go that far west, but position himself in between those two northwestish thumbprint zones in order to be able to cut him off from whereever he tries to go after that. Thoughts? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

09-18-2008, 02:38 PM	#835
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Sorry guys, swamped today. Will try and help when I can. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

09-17-2008, 11:14 AM	#803
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	OK guys, I've got the map and am ready to go. I am off to lunch, so it will be a couple of hours before I return. I'll give you guys one freebie. MJ4H, please make the obvious move for me.

09-17-2008, 11:19 AM	#804
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Done, the hunter may move 3 squares.

09-17-2008, 11:22 AM	#805
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Looks like we have some time before Brian returns. Thoughts, spotters?

09-17-2008, 12:07 PM	#807
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I made my move. By the way, can one of you spotters tell me what the obvious move was?

09-17-2008, 12:57 PM	#808
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Turn 1 is complete. Turn 2 has been sent out. I have changed my mind and I will use the new turn post to list each team's roll. Remember, also, spotters, you have a 50% chance of seeing the evader and a 50% of missing him when he is in a yellow zone. You have a 75% chance of seeing him when he is in the white zone. If you don't see him on your map, then you don't get to see him for that turn. Rolls for this turn: evader: 2 hunter: 2

09-17-2008, 01:04 PM	#810
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	The percentages only apply to the spotters.

09-17-2008, 01:14 PM	#811
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Anyway spotters, I went a little northwest, and at the moment, I can only go west -- I'm a little worried that this path is going to take me way south. Do you guys think I should be worried, or do you think I'll be able to cut west very soon?

09-17-2008, 02:07 PM	#812
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I've got my next move in.

09-17-2008, 04:56 PM	#819
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Turn 3 sent: Rolls: Evader - 1 Hunter - 2

09-17-2008, 06:09 PM	#820
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	My move is sent in.

09-17-2008, 07:46 PM	#824
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	sorry guys just getting caught up here. Looks like we want to move Pass to the west and then north in a bit correct? I can see Brian again. I assume he will head towards a fingerprint. You're still a long way away from him Pass.

09-17-2008, 09:16 PM	#825
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Turn 4 sent rolls: evader-1 hunter-1

09-17-2008, 09:18 PM	#826
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Thinking about making the move ranges 2-3 and 2-4. 1 square per turn seems silly. In fact, I think I am doing that now. Make it: evader-2 hunter-2 From now on, same ranges just without the possibility of moving 1 square. We want to finish this before Christmas.

09-17-2008, 09:27 PM	#827
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Turn 5 sent. rolls: evader-2 hunter-3

09-17-2008, 09:48 PM	#829
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I agree with Path on both points. Pretty sure he was going for that thumbprint to the south.

09-18-2008, 08:07 AM	#832
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Turn 6 sent Rolls: evader-3 hunter-2

09-18-2008, 08:17 AM	#833
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Spotters -- I think we need to talk about what to do next time I have three or more moves to make, due to my limited visibility. I don't want to give too much of my position away to Brian -- or do you guys think we've talked about it so much that he's figured it out by now? Also, can you guys see where I am? If you can, you probably know what I'm talking about. My move is pretty obvious for this round, but let's be ready for our next big step.

09-18-2008, 10:13 AM	#834
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I think he's got a good idea where you are now in a general area at least based on some of the more recent spotter comments. He should get his first fingerprint either in the next move or the one after. We need to see which direction he's going after that. You definitely want to take that path heading north that you are about to come on, the intersection is one away west, then north. We may have to double you back if goes the other direction though. I think we should go right after him and not go and wait in between fingerprints, but that's just me.

09-18-2008, 03:23 PM	#836
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Sounds good, guys. Sorry it took so long to get my turn in -- work kept me busy today.

09-18-2008, 06:10 PM	#837
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I agree with Thomkal on heading north but I think we should take more of a wait and see approach to determine which direction he's going after he picks up his first thumbprint, which will be in the next two turns. We can chase him but we need to close the gap and I'm afraid that we'll over commit towards one thumbprint and let him slip by. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

09-18-2008, 06:41 PM	#838
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	AFAIK I'm waiting on BrianD's move for this turn.

09-18-2008, 08:22 PM	#839
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	You should have it already...

09-18-2008, 08:23 PM	#840
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I take that back. I believe I have the results of my move, but I am waiting on the number of moves for the next turn...unless I missed it.

09-18-2008, 09:05 PM	#842
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	BrianD: The best I can figure out, I need a 3 move string from you before I can continue. I'm not sure where the break down in communication came, but it was almost definitely my fault. A move of 3 from you should get us back on.

09-18-2008, 09:06 PM	#843
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	OK, it is on its way.

09-18-2008, 09:19 PM	#844
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	OK the next turn has been sent. Next Rolls: evader-2 hunter-4 BrianD: I'm about to send you an explanation.

09-18-2008, 09:40 PM	#845
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Okay now I'm confused. Brian stayed put, and Pass went by the north turn I suggested you take. You will not want to continue going west on the path you are on. I'm gone for the rest of the night.

09-18-2008, 10:14 PM	#846
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Pass, I'd recommend moving northeast now. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

09-19-2008, 08:06 AM	#847
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Yeah I might have missed sending something to one group or sent something twice. We should be back on track now. Latest move has been sent. Next rolls: Evader-3 Hunter-4

09-19-2008, 08:12 AM	#848
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	As time goes on in this mission, the shadows grow deeper as the sun sets. The evader's chances of staying hidden gradually increase over time. Come on guys, that's just common sense!