Werewolf CXXVII -- The Godfather, VILLAGERS WIN - Page 17

JAG · 03-16-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

So do you think Jeff, Narc and Tyke are the last three wolves? That would be a coup. But right now we're not lynching any of them, lol.

Those three and Darth are my top suspects, I would guess one of Tyke/Darth would be a wolf, but not sure which.

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 02:57 PM

Hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling Darth will come back as a villager.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 02:58 PM

Don't like what I'm hearing from bhlloy today. Haven't really liked anything Autumn has said yet. Many things he's said are negative about people's ideas and then being suspicious of people who have believable reasons they are villagers.

my vote means nothing today. so be it. tyke has enough clearance with me for today. If he's a wolf fine but not an obvious one and i'd only look at him down the road.

MartinD · 03-16-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

thank you, this weas a lot to read

Martin is awesome.

Tell me about it - I've spent the last hour just going through the posts since I was online this morning...

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Those three and Darth are my top suspects, I would guess one of Tyke/Darth would be a wolf, but not sure which.

I suspect Tyke and Narcizo more as a wolf than Darth right now. Those two having vote on Darth is what is making me nervous right now.

Autumn · 03-16-2011, 03:00 PM

Being suspicious of people is how we play the game CF. How you play the game as a wolf is trying to make people sound more trustworthy than they are. So I figure my job is to poke holes if someone starts sounding more trusted than they should be.

Frankly, Jeff was as far as my voting list went today, so JAG's wrinkle has thrown me off. I think I posted some pretty good voting analysis, myself, but I guess you don't have to concur ;-)

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:01 PM

why mckerney?

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:01 PM

that's why i'm suspicious of you autumn

Autumn · 03-16-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

I suspect Tyke and Narcizo more as a wolf than Darth right now. Those two having vote on Darth is what is making me nervous right now.

Though Narc seemed reluctant to vote for either one of them.

Autumn · 03-16-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

that's why i'm suspicious of you autumn

lol

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:02 PM

Don't take it personally of course. I happen to like wolves.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:03 PM

we are past deadline now correctamundo?

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Though Narc seemed reluctant to vote for either one of them.

It did make me quite a bit more suspicious of him as the day went on after not having too strong a feeling on him to start the day.

Passacaglia · 03-16-2011, 03:06 PM

The Family gets together once more to find the traitors and bring them to justice, Family style. They settle on Darth Vilus, and order the hit. Moments later, word reaches the compound that Captain McCluskey has been killed. At first, the public is near riotous, ready to riot against cop-killing crime action, until it's later revealed that McCluskey had underground ties himself, and was the most corrupt cop out there.

You go to sleep feeling much better, and wake up to better news. Carlo Rizzi was found killed on the side of the road. The gun used to shoot him was laying further off from the road. Little is known of the killer, though based on forensic evidence near the site, authorities state that he or she has a bit of a sweet tooth. jeff061 was Carlo Rizzi!

JAG · 03-16-2011, 03:07 PM

Awesome!

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

why mckerney?

Mostly because I think there's a better chance of Narcizo and tyketime being wolves than Darth and they're both voting for him. Nothing to strong I suppose and mostly just worried how the day will go for us.

J23 · 03-16-2011, 03:08 PM

Sweet!

JAG · 03-16-2011, 03:08 PM

Martin, we read the same tea leaves.

Zinto · 03-16-2011, 03:09 PM

Woohoo. Great day today.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:09 PM

Best night ever!

JAG · 03-16-2011, 03:09 PM

And Luca got a block it seems, perfect day.

Autumn · 03-16-2011, 03:10 PM

Wow, awesome. I really didn't expect anything good with Darth.

No night kill?

MartinD · 03-16-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Martin, we read the same tea leaves.

That's very possible, but you had the opportunity to do something about it, and took full advantage

J23 · 03-16-2011, 03:10 PM

Well, I think we can safely say that JAG is fully cleared.

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Best night ever!

on the pass to JAG!

J23 · 03-16-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by J23

Well, I think we can safely say that JAG is fully cleared.

well, perhaps not fully, but pretty darn highly cleared. That would be a ridiculously epic wolf play

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:11 PM

Is there really no night kill?

Passacaglia · 03-16-2011, 03:12 PM

Day 4 begins!

MartinD · 03-16-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Is there really no night kill?

That's what it looks like - could we have had a better day?

bhlloy · 03-16-2011, 03:14 PM

Perfect night. Great job JAG and I think we got lucky on Darth, but can't argue with results.

Autumn · 03-16-2011, 03:15 PM

Well, Jeff I figured. I'm going to have to go back and see what Darth means in the vote count. I'm afraid not much, but maybe we'll find something.

J23 · 03-16-2011, 03:15 PM

Whoever is Luca has had some really good reads. Both the kill and then this block.

Autumn · 03-16-2011, 03:15 PM

But right now my boss, which is me, is going to kill me for spending so much time on this in the middle of the afternoon. be back later.

EagleFan · 03-16-2011, 03:16 PM

Sweet day!!! Not much time to read what all happened (bosses swarming and don't want to be their lynch vote) but I see the results.

The Jackal · 03-16-2011, 03:20 PM

Awesome. So much for two villagers going down, eh jeff?

bhlloy · 03-16-2011, 03:22 PM

I'm stunned the wolves didn't make a bigger effort to save Darth. Jeff's vote was just sitting there wasted on JAG and there are potentially two other votes out there. In theory they could have tied it if there were no wolves on Tyke.

And obviously, that looks really bad for Autumn and I...

Thinking out loud I wonder if they just missed the NK and the opportunity to save Darth. They let two of their own go down without any kind of a fight. Very wierd.

The Jackal · 03-16-2011, 03:23 PM

I had been considering looking at bhlloy, but with jeff being bad, would two wolves really have stacked votes on mau like that at the beginning of day one? Raises him at least a little bit on my trust radar.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:23 PM

First impressions. Finally a little trust for EagleFan and Jackal. Now do we think a wolf voted DV today? I don't see a reason for them to, when there were plenty of candidates. If a wolf DID vote for him would it be at the beginning or the middle/end?

So either EagleFan/Jackal has a wolf or J23/Zinto?

I already think j23 is pretty good. Really I'm thinking Autumn/bhlloy are both wolves. I have most of the game.

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm stunned the wolves didn't make a bigger effort to save Darth. Jeff's vote was just sitting there wasted on JAG and there are potentially two other votes out there. In theory they could have tied it if there were no wolves on Tyke.

And obviously, that looks really bad for Autumn and I...

Thinking out loud I wonder if they just missed the NK and the opportunity to save Darth. They let two of their own go down without any kind of a fight. Very wierd.

I don't see why they didn't at least put a vote on tyketime to hope Fredo was on him and at least get a villager too.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

I don't see why they didn't at least put a vote on tyketime to hope Fredo was on him and at least get a villager too.

Unless they were already there and could do nothing.

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Unless they were already there and could do nothing.

Jeff's vote was still out there though.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:33 PM

Oh, on JAG you mean. Hmmm.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:41 PM

As Jeff, why vote JAG at all? He seemed to be the most trusted person out there. It almost seems like Jeff gave up at that point and resolved to be taken down.

bhlloy · 03-16-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Really I'm thinking Autumn/bhlloy are both wolves. I have most of the game.

I understand where you are coming from as it looks really bad - but this would be a pretty suicidal play for three wolves to be the only votes on one candidate. Obviously I have no idea of Autumn's allegiance but from what I've seen so far I don't see any reason not to think he's a villager.

I think the wolves either completely missed the boat today or thought DV was too far gone to be saved.

JAG · 03-16-2011, 03:45 PM

We have a lot of new solid data to work with, so I'm going to avoid the knee-jerk and take a look at things with the new input when I have a chance.

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

As Jeff, why vote JAG at all? He seemed to be the most trusted person out there. It almost seems like Jeff gave up at that point and resolved to be taken down.

I guess I understand putting it there earlier in the day as a protest to being killed by JAG, but if you're going to be found out as a wolf anyway I don't understand making some move that could help the wolves.

mckerney · 03-16-2011, 03:50 PM

I guess there are too reasons I can think of.

1. Revealing tyketime to be a villager makes his voters look worse, we'd then probably have a pretty good idea tyke voters are likely wolves.

2. tyketime is also a wolf.

CrimsonFox · 03-16-2011, 03:55 PM

Stealing Narcizo's post from before for Day 1/2

Day One

EF votes Saldana 120 (1)
Narcizo votes Mckerney 122 (1)
J23 votes Chief Rum 132 (1)
JAG votes Mckerney 148 (2)
Lathum votes tyketime 153 (1)
Autumn votes tyketime 160 (2)
bhlloy votes mauboy1 161 (1)
jeff061 votes mauboy1 170 (2)
mauboy1 votes tyketime 176 (3)
mckerney votes tyketime 178 (4)
narcizo unvotes mckerney (1)
narcizo votes mauboy1 (3)
autumn unvotes tyketime 184 (3)
autumn votes mckerney 185 (2)
tyketime votes mauboy 193 (4)
mckerney unvotes tyketime 194 (2)
mckerney votes mauboy 194 (5)
chief votes tyketime (3)
J23 unvotes chief rum (0)
J23 votes tyketime (4)
saldana votes mauboy (6)
martind votes mckerney (3)
zinto votes mauboy (7)

Day Two

Zinto votes Jeff (242) 1
CrimsonFox votes Tyke (289) 1
Tyke votes CrimsonFox (290) 1
Eaglefan voted Saldana (294) 1
Darth Vilus voted Tyke (295) 2
Narcizo voted Sal (298) 2
Danny voted Tyke (315) 3
Jackal voted Jeff (316) 2
Bhlloy voted CrimsonFox (317) 2
McKerney voted Jeff (322) 3
Autumn voted CrimsonFox (336) 3
Jeff voted Tyke (338) 4
JAG voted CrimsonFox (341) 4
Lathum voted CrimsonFox (347) 5
Tyke unvoted CrimsonFox (354) 4
CrimsonFox unvoted tyke (381) 3
Saldana voted tyke (384) 4
JAG unvoted CrimsonFox (391) 3
Bhlloy unvoted CrimsonFox (400) 2
Bhlloy voted Saldana (400) 3
J23 voted Jeff (427) 4
Lathum unvotes CrimsonFox (444) 1
Lathum votes Saldana (444) 4
Jeff unvotes Tyke (453) 3
Jeff votes Sal (453) 5
CrimsonFox votes Jeff (462) 5
MartinD votes Jeff (463) 6
Tyke votes Sal (479) 6
McKerney unvotes jeff (482) 5
McKerney votes Sal (482) 7
JAG votes Jeff (495) 6
Autumn unvotes CrimsonFox (501) 0
Autumn votes saldana (501) 8

tyketime · 03-16-2011, 03:57 PM

Just finished presentation and getting ready to roll into a 4pm mtg. A couple of quick thoughts:

1. Hells Yes!

2. Thank goodness I wasn't around. How the heck did I get served up as an appetizer again?

3. So wait... I'm still being considered a wolf? I'll provide more details later, but I've had wolves snapping on me both days...

4. Hells Yes!

The Jackal · 03-16-2011, 03:58 PM

Feeling good about most of the jeff voters from day 2. Mckerney's vote switch, as he said, looks pretty bad.

03-16-2011, 03:16 PM	#834
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03-16-2011, 02:57 PM	#802
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling Darth will come back as a villager.

03-16-2011, 02:58 PM	#803
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Don't like what I'm hearing from bhlloy today. Haven't really liked anything Autumn has said yet. Many things he's said are negative about people's ideas and then being suspicious of people who have believable reasons they are villagers. my vote means nothing today. so be it. tyke has enough clearance with me for today. If he's a wolf fine but not an obvious one and i'd only look at him down the road.

03-16-2011, 03:00 PM	#806
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Being suspicious of people is how we play the game CF. How you play the game as a wolf is trying to make people sound more trustworthy than they are. So I figure my job is to poke holes if someone starts sounding more trusted than they should be. Frankly, Jeff was as far as my voting list went today, so JAG's wrinkle has thrown me off. I think I posted some pretty good voting analysis, myself, but I guess you don't have to concur ;-)

03-16-2011, 03:01 PM	#807
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	why mckerney?

03-16-2011, 03:01 PM	#808
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	that's why i'm suspicious of you autumn

03-16-2011, 03:02 PM	#811
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Don't take it personally of course. I happen to like wolves.

03-16-2011, 03:03 PM	#812
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	we are past deadline now correctamundo?

03-16-2011, 03:06 PM	#814
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	The Family gets together once more to find the traitors and bring them to justice, Family style. They settle on Darth Vilus, and order the hit. Moments later, word reaches the compound that Captain McCluskey has been killed. At first, the public is near riotous, ready to riot against cop-killing crime action, until it's later revealed that McCluskey had underground ties himself, and was the most corrupt cop out there. You go to sleep feeling much better, and wake up to better news. Carlo Rizzi was found killed on the side of the road. The gun used to shoot him was laying further off from the road. Little is known of the killer, though based on forensic evidence near the site, authorities state that he or she has a bit of a sweet tooth. jeff061 was Carlo Rizzi!

03-16-2011, 03:07 PM	#815
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Awesome!

03-16-2011, 03:08 PM	#817
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Sweet!

03-16-2011, 03:08 PM	#818
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Martin, we read the same tea leaves.

03-16-2011, 03:09 PM	#819
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	Woohoo. Great day today.

03-16-2011, 03:09 PM	#820
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Best night ever!

03-16-2011, 03:09 PM	#821
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	And Luca got a block it seems, perfect day.

03-16-2011, 03:10 PM	#822
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Wow, awesome. I really didn't expect anything good with Darth. No night kill?

03-16-2011, 03:10 PM	#824
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Well, I think we can safely say that JAG is fully cleared.

03-16-2011, 03:11 PM	#827
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Is there really no night kill?

03-16-2011, 03:12 PM	#828
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Day 4 begins!

03-16-2011, 03:14 PM	#830
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Perfect night. Great job JAG and I think we got lucky on Darth, but can't argue with results.

03-16-2011, 03:15 PM	#831
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well, Jeff I figured. I'm going to have to go back and see what Darth means in the vote count. I'm afraid not much, but maybe we'll find something.

03-16-2011, 03:15 PM	#832
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Whoever is Luca has had some really good reads. Both the kill and then this block.

03-16-2011, 03:15 PM	#833
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	But right now my boss, which is me, is going to kill me for spending so much time on this in the middle of the afternoon. be back later.

03-16-2011, 03:20 PM	#835
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Awesome. So much for two villagers going down, eh jeff?

03-16-2011, 03:22 PM	#836
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm stunned the wolves didn't make a bigger effort to save Darth. Jeff's vote was just sitting there wasted on JAG and there are potentially two other votes out there. In theory they could have tied it if there were no wolves on Tyke. And obviously, that looks really bad for Autumn and I... Thinking out loud I wonder if they just missed the NK and the opportunity to save Darth. They let two of their own go down without any kind of a fight. Very wierd.

03-16-2011, 03:23 PM	#837
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I had been considering looking at bhlloy, but with jeff being bad, would two wolves really have stacked votes on mau like that at the beginning of day one? Raises him at least a little bit on my trust radar.

03-16-2011, 03:23 PM	#838
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	First impressions. Finally a little trust for EagleFan and Jackal. Now do we think a wolf voted DV today? I don't see a reason for them to, when there were plenty of candidates. If a wolf DID vote for him would it be at the beginning or the middle/end? So either EagleFan/Jackal has a wolf or J23/Zinto? I already think j23 is pretty good. Really I'm thinking Autumn/bhlloy are both wolves. I have most of the game.

03-16-2011, 03:33 PM	#842
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Oh, on JAG you mean. Hmmm.

03-16-2011, 03:41 PM	#843
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	As Jeff, why vote JAG at all? He seemed to be the most trusted person out there. It almost seems like Jeff gave up at that point and resolved to be taken down.

03-16-2011, 03:45 PM	#845
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	We have a lot of new solid data to work with, so I'm going to avoid the knee-jerk and take a look at things with the new input when I have a chance.

03-16-2011, 03:50 PM	#847
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I guess there are too reasons I can think of. 1. Revealing tyketime to be a villager makes his voters look worse, we'd then probably have a pretty good idea tyke voters are likely wolves. 2. tyketime is also a wolf.