Vanilla Flavored Werewolf-Villagers Win

[DaddyTorgo]

Not saying I think you're a wolf Autumn, because that would be a fucking ballsy play earlier tonight if you were, but it's not a 0% possibility, like it is with Danny and EF.

[Autumn]

It gives us one less candidate for being a wolf, and one that in fact was the leading vote getter. So obviously it gives us something. It also gives us a reveal we can believe rather than one that seems like a desperate wolf ploy.

[Danny]

Im pretty sold on DT being the seer though honestly after reading everything back through the thread.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

It gives us one less candidate for being a wolf, and one that in fact was the leading vote getter. So obviously it gives us something. It also gives us a reveal we can believe rather than one that seems like a desperate wolf ploy.

I agree with you, but I dont think it helps us now to question his move. We need to decide if we think he is the seer, not if he played it poorly or not.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

Because it limits our options from 3 down to 2 people as possible wolves.

But we don't need to limit our options tonight. We need to do that tomorrow.

No way I'm going to put any weight in DT being a seer until dawn. So no reason for a BG to reveal now when it only helps DT.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

But we don't need to limit our options tonight. We need to do that tomorrow.

No way I'm going to put any weight in DT being a seer until dawn. So no reason for a BG to reveal now when it only helps DT.

I'm only guaranteed to live through tonight, not through tomorrow night. So narrowing that list down sooner is better.

It's endgame Autumn. If the BG reveals and protects me, it's game over. Shit, even if they can't protect me I announced who I'm going to scan, so if I die you all can presume that I was going to scan the wolf.

[DaddyTorgo]

In fact, my scan order is already in for britrock, so if I happen to fall asleep or something it'll still get executed.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

But we don't need to limit our options tonight. We need to do that tomorrow.

No way I'm going to put any weight in DT being a seer until dawn. So no reason for a BG to reveal now when it only helps DT.

It helps the whole village.

Don't be a hater just because you disagree with how I've played the role.

[Autumn]

Worst case scenario if BG doesn't reveal: you scan them. When they reveal tomorrow, we believe them.

Worst case scenario if BG reveals: wolves kill the real seer, having one less person to guess between. Wolf fake reveals as BG also and we have no way of being sure.

[Autumn]

I'm not talking about how you played the role, DT. I'm talking about you pushing for a BG reveal before night deadline when it's not a safe play for the village. The seer choose not to reveal all day long, who's to say they're not still holding their cards tight. BG needs to know the seer, seer doesn't really need to know the BG.

[Danny]

Id rather see everyone reveal and not give the wolf time to think out a defense over night.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm not talking about how you played the role, DT. I'm talking about you pushing for a BG reveal before night deadline when it's not a safe play for the village. The seer choose not to reveal all day long, who's to say they're not still holding their cards tight. BG needs to know the seer, seer doesn't really need to know the BG.

I was shocked the seer didnt reveal today, but it being DT makes sense. It also explains why DT hasnt been scanned.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Worst case scenario if BG doesn't reveal: you scan them. When they reveal tomorrow, we believe them.

Worst case scenario if BG reveals: wolves kill the real seer, having one less person to guess between. Wolf fake reveals as BG also and we have no way of being sure.

If BG doesn't reveal I scan them and then get NK'd tomorrow before I can identify the last wolf and you guys have to play out potentially 2 days.

Worst case scenario if BG reveals: there isn't one. I'm the real seer. It's been clearly laid out that this is endgame. The wolf hasn't fake-revealed as the seer, and we all know that EF is the cultist so he can't fake-reveal.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm not talking about how you played the role, DT. I'm talking about you pushing for a BG reveal before night deadline when it's not a safe play for the village. The seer choose not to reveal all day long, who's to say they're not still holding their cards tight. BG needs to know the seer, seer doesn't really need to know the BG.

IF I KNOW THE SEER THE GAME IS OVER AS SOON AS NIGHT ACTIONS ARE PROCESSED!!!!

I don't know why you can't seem to grasp this, but I'm getting really frustrated by your stubbornness to do the math.

[Danny]

But honestly a reveal now or later wont make a huge impact. I assume the wolf kills me tonight as DT, Brit and Saldana are safe as possible wolves and EF is the cultist.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm not talking about how you played the role, DT. I'm talking about you pushing for a BG reveal before night deadline when it's not a safe play for the village. The seer choose not to reveal all day long, who's to say they're not still holding their cards tight. BG needs to know the seer, seer doesn't really need to know the BG.

I chose not to reveal all day long yes. And I chose to reveal now, after posting several times that it would be a good time for the seer to reveal if the BG revealed. For the BG not to reveal now is throwing an unnecessary wrench in things.

[Autumn]

lol, DT, because this is Werewolf. I don't believe you just because you say I should.

[Danny]

So yes I kind of want a reveal now, so that I can analyze them before dying.

[Autumn]

DT, if you're a villager you're cracking me up this game. The least wrench that has been thrown in this game is the bodyguard not revealing yet. That's really what you think has gone screwy?

[Autumn]

You guys should know that when you start making a lot of bold analysis all based on us assuming you're 100% good, that's when we stop listening.

[saldana]

I'm the martyr

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

DT, if you're a villager you're cracking me up this game. The least wrench that has been thrown in this game is the bodyguard not revealing yet. That's really what you think has gone screwy?

I'm not a villager - I'm the seer.

Just ready for this game to be over before the weekend - see no reason to drag it out unnecessarily.

[Danny]

CR made the first second vote on day one, ON SALDANA. No way he does that as his wolf partner. Saldana is not the wolf.

[Danny]

That means Saldana is the BG and Brit or DT is the last wolf most likely.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

CR made the first second vote on day one, ON SALDANA. No way he does that as his wolf partner. Saldana is not the wolf.

Danny you're not going to convince anyone by saying that a wolf would never second-vote a fellow wolf on day one. Happens all the time actually.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by saldana

I'm the martyr

Cool saldana.

Well I'm scanning britrock tonight. If Zinto runs the night actions pretty close to 2AM EST I'll get the results to you all before I go to bed, otherwise it will be like 8:30am before I wake up and get you the results.

[Autumn]

All right, well that's all we need to know right now, I guess. I'm heading back to work on this project, and I'll see how things turn out come Dawn.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Danny

CR made the first second vote on day one, ON SALDANA. No way he does that as his wolf partner. Saldana is not the wolf.

Yeah - I noted this before as something that gave me trust in CR. Obviously it gives me trust in saldana now.

Nice thinking Danny.

[Danny]

I now completely believe DT just about. I just dont see Brit as the seer at all.

[Danny]

Brit, you better come out quickly with your seer info if you are the seer. Im not buying it if you wait untiltomorrow.

[Danny]

If the wolves are CR and Brit, I bet they have been laughing at us the last three days

[Danny]

If I was seer and saw DT do that I would chomping at the bit to come out and clear things up. Brits hesitancy makes me think even more DT is the seer.

[Danny]

So Brit is the last wolf, this time I am really sure lol

[britrock88]

Well, okay then. Here's what I've done as the seer.

After the Day 1 tie, I scanned based on my vote, and Autumn came back clean. On Day 2, you didn't get any hints about a role as you piled on me at the last minute because I wasn't around, as you well know. (Just as Autumn suggested at the time, a late run is more likely to nab a roled villager than a wolf.) That night, I scanned EF because of his shenanigans. Probably a novice move on my part to scan who I suspected to be the cultist, because the scan revealed that EF was "not a wolf." (It's my first time in this role in any form.) And on Day 3, I followed a hunch and scanned Path, looking for him as the UTR-type wolf, because he got some attention in the lynch voting. I figured that we had put so much heat on DT consistently enough that we had him in the bag. It's unfortunate that I wasn't around to seal the deal on him tonight... but at least we got our UTR wolf out of it.

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE BRITROCK
VOTE NIGHTFALL

game over

[Autumn]

If CR and Brit are the wolves, they must be super pissed that EF's tie gifted us Chief.

[Danny]

You cant vote yet lol. But I am voting brit tomorrow if I am alive

[Autumn]

lol, it's not even day yet DT

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

If CR and Brit are the wolves, they must be super pissed that EF's tie gifted us Chief.

Yes lol, we actually really lucked into the tie today. We probably deserve to win, though I think we end up winning

[Danny]

Meant to say we dont deserve to win

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

lol, it's not even day yet DT

oh i know. but now I know my scan will show us that britrock is the last wolf. 100%. Bet my left testicle on it.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

oh i know. but now I know my scan will show us that britrock is the last wolf. 100%. Bet my left testicle on it.

Funny, I can say the same thing for you.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

oh i know. but now I know my scan will show us that britrock is the last wolf. 100%. Bet my left testicle on it.

Zinto, you should say Brit is clean just so DT loses his testicle lol

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Danny

Yes lol, we actually really lucked into the tie today. We probably deserve to win, though I think we end up winning

My thinking all day today was going to be to scan in that CR/britrock/saldana group, so I think we would have started nabbing them, provided I survived tonight.

Thought my posts had made that pretty clear, and I was actually happy I was still drawing heat, as it was keeping me alive (although the ties were giving me mini heart attacks).

[Danny]

Originally Posted by britrock88

It'd be a touch disappointing not to have scans on Autumn and DT, given how prominent they've been as candidates in the first 2 days. But I understand that a curious seer might go for EF instead.

Post by Brit on day 3

[Danny]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Not sure whether to give the people who shifted to me a free pass for going at a guy who wasn't around... or to support Autumn's notion that there's something fishy among those moving off DT. That said, a DT scan result might help us out... though I'm not sure of the worth of having the seer reveal for a clean scan.

another

[britrock88]

845 - explains that I scanned EF and am disappointed with the result
846 - pushing people to vote DT without revealing that I'm upset that I haven't scanned him already

[Danny]

Yet you never voted Dt...

[Danny]

And why didnt you reveal earlier today when you had a scan of one of the two main candidates. ANd why didnt you vote DT today?

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Day 3

time	post	voter	votee	#
08:25	422	EF	mau	1
09:43	426	Autumn	path	1
10:57	432	path	EF	1
11:50	436	Danny	CR	1
12:37	441	CR	path	2
13:35	444	mau	Danny	1
17:24	464	DT	mau	2
17:42	469	path	x EF	0
			mau	3
18:19	470	mau	x Danny	0
			path	3
18:58	475	brit	mau	4
19:05	476	Danny	x CR	0
19:06	477	Danny	path	4
19:31	505	mau	x path	3
			DT	1
19:32	507	Danny	x path	2
			DT	2
19:52	543	mau	x DT	1
			path	3
19:52	544	Danny	x DT	0
			mau	5
19:57	554	Autumn	x path	2
			mau	6

Look at when I voted. I was going out before the deadline, as I'm pretty sure I mentioned in the thread, and there was no momentum behind DT.