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Old 04-20-2011, 11:18 PM   #801
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Damn. I can't say I'm terribly surprised by that result with the lack of strange movement. I shouldn't have let DT make me second guess voting him.

Lynch me next if you want - I'm just a vanilla villager, so we'll just be one more person closer to losing.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:20 PM   #802
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Lynch me next if you want - I'm just a vanilla villager, so we'll just be one more person closer to losing.

I'm not saying you are a surefire lynch candidate or anything, but obviously we didn't make the right choice there.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:22 PM   #803
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Lynch me next if you want - I'm just a vanilla villager, so we'll just be one more person closer to losing.

So therefore you are a wolf?
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:24 PM   #804
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Is it my imagination or is that chick from Myth Busters getting hotter? Didn't used to give her much thought but I swear she is looking better each season.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:35 PM   #805
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Day 2

2 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322) J23 (550)
1 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446)
1 - J23 - MrBug708 (553)
5 - Autumn - Lathum (389) bhlloy (545) mckerney (559) EagleFan (568) mauboy (536)
7 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491) dwardzala (507) PackerFanatic (509) Thomkal (542) Telle (466) DaddyTargo (573)
2 - DaddyTargo - Autumn (483) Jackal (485)

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:36 PM   #806
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Day One

Zinto (6) - bhlloy (81) mauboy (133) Jackal (149) Autumn (194) J23 (218) PackerFanatic (220)
J23 (1) - Thomkal (98)
JAG (3) - MrBug (113) mckerney (227) Lathum (256)
PackerFanatic (8) - Danny (135) Narcizo (136) dwardzala (160) hoopsguy (182) Telle (197) EagleFan (239) JAG (246) Zinto (249)
mckerney (2) - Darth Vilus (159) Daddy Targo (229)

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:36 PM   #807
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Everyone (except Akela) walks away hungry. They beg Baloo to scrounge them up some food.
"Well okay guys, follow me. I know a great place. There's a whole mess of banana trees south of the village."
baloobear.jpg

"Bananas?"
"What's a banana?"
"Sure! Lead the way."
Baloo leads them off to the ruins of some ancient civilization. The wolves stampede after him barking and yipping happily that food is in sight.
All...except one, who crawls out from under the bushes where he hid.
He smiles happily as the last wolf bounds out of sight, then takes off his head.
Beneath the wolf head is a cat's head. He opens a velcro front and unzips the suit and steps out of it. The grey wolf fur drops to the ground. He stretches his cat body, happy to have a moment to himself, then strolls back to his cave to stalk the mice that were scurrying into little holes.
The wolves bark in the distance.

The bear and the wolves have now reached the ruins and Baloo points out the trees with the fruit.
"Now all you have to do is climb these trees to get the bananas. And watch out for monkeys."
"Baloo, we've got no thumbs. We can't climb up there. Can you get em for us?"
"Sure." Baloo climbs up the the rickety tree, which bends to his immense mass. The wolves start to jump at the dangling bananas. "Hey don't do that, now you're gonna make me fall."
He jostles some bananas and knocks a few down. Father Wolf jumps up and latches on to a rather green bunch, pulling the branch suddenly.
"Hey Watch it!" yells Baloo, "Look out!"
He struggles to hold on and then slips and falls. The tree snaps back sending Father Wolf with bananas in his mouth hurtling through the air.
Baloo lands softly on the rest of the pack.

Tomcat.jpg
The tomcat back at the camp emerges from his cave and strolls down the path, happily fed by his favorite meal of mice and rats and goes to put his costume back on.
With a yawn and a stretch, he scratches himself, then sticks one foot into his suit. He hears a rustling in the trees above.
"Bagheera? Is that you?"
He looks up but sees nothing. He sticks his foot all the way in and feels something clench on is foot.
"What's the--? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" he yells.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1dKeeOipNY

He drops the costume and pulls his leg back. There is a snake attached to it. It sucks more of his leg into its mouth.

"MMMMPH SSSTND STHILLLL!", the snake says.
"Akela! Akela! Help me!!!!!!!!!"
He hops backward repeatedly but is tripped by the end of the python that's behind him. It winds around his arms and
pins him to the ground.
"Father Wolf! Baloo!" shouts the tomcat named Thomkal.
"Sssssssshut up!" says Kaa, as he plops a large loop of coils over Thomkal's mouth.

Hours later the wolves return from the banana hunt, happily fed. And then they see the horrifying result. They look at the costume, which was obviously the wolf they know as Thomkal, but nothing inside except dripping blood and cat whiskers.
Akela sighs, "Is there anyone ELSE here that's NOT really a wolf?"

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[Thomkal was a vanilla member of the Seeonee wolf pack.]

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Old 04-20-2011, 11:40 PM   #810
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Day One

Zinto (6) - bhlloy (81) mauboy (133) Jackal (149) Autumn (194) J23 (218) PackerFanatic (220)
J23 (1) - Thomkal (98)
JAG (3) - MrBug (113) mckerney (227) Lathum (256)
PackerFanatic (8) - Danny (135) Narcizo (136) dwardzala (160) hoopsguy (182) Telle (197) EagleFan (239) JAG (246) Zinto (249)
mckerney (2) - Darth Vilus (159) Daddy Targo (229)
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:42 PM   #811
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2 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322) J23 (550)
1 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446)
1 - J23 - MrBug708 (553)
5 - Autumn - Lathum (389) bhlloy (545) mckerney (559) EagleFan (568) mauboy (536)
7 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491) dwardzala (507) PackerFanatic (509) Thomkal (542) Telle (466) DaddyTargo (573)
2 - DaddyTargo - Autumn (483) Jackal (485)
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:44 PM   #812
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Day Three

4 - DaddyTorgo - Telle (695), Zinto (704), hoopsguy (714), dwardzala (727)
4 - Autumn - Darth Vilus (693), mckerney (709), EagleFan (740) DaddyTargo (758)
7 - dwardzala - Thomkal (692), Narcizo (694), bhlloy (699), The Jackal (703), J23 (708), PackerFanatic (710), Autumn (729)
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:47 PM   #813
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Interesting that Autumn and Jackal voted the same person every day.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:51 PM   #815
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Day 2

2 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322) J23 (550)
1 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446)
1 - J23 - MrBug708 (553)
5 - Autumn - Lathum (389) bhlloy (545) mckerney (559) EagleFan (568) mauboy (536)
7 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491) dwardzala (507) PackerFanatic (509) Thomkal (542) Telle (466) DaddyTargo (573)
2 - DaddyTargo - Autumn (483) Jackal (485)

You've missed having mauboy in green and you should be listing yourself in the same blue as PF (my opinion).

However, this was the day that jumped out for me in the color-coded results. Because we're down to two "unknowns" on Autumn.
- If he's a villager, chances are there was a wolf on him in an effort to spread votes.
- If he is a wolf, then the other wolves probably sold out to try and protect him (we already know MrBug didn't go there, but obviously wolves would try to protect their own to some extent)
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:52 PM   #816
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Me and the Mrs. and PF leaves us with 10. Depending on the seer scans (if they are still alive) it may soon be worth revealing. Of course the seer could wait until tomorrow (after tomorrow night) to be able to get 2 more scans in (tomorrow and Friday with BG protection).

Food for thought.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:54 PM   #817
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Me and the Mrs. and PF leaves us with 10. Depending on the seer scans (if they are still alive) it may soon be worth revealing. Of course the seer could wait until tomorrow (after tomorrow night) to be able to get 2 more scans in (tomorrow and Friday with BG protection).

Food for thought.

Yep, if they have 2-3 good scans we can really start turning up the screws.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:57 PM   #818
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My guess at this point, just a gut a the moment though (need to think about it more but wanted to post it for discussion), is that the remaining wolves are in this group...

J23
DT
bhlloy
Autumm
Jackal
Telle
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:59 PM   #819
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My guess at this point, just a gut a the moment though (need to think about it more but wanted to post it for discussion), is that the remaining wolves are in this group...

J23
DT
bhlloy
Autumm
Jackal
Telle

My sarcastic side wanted to post all the remaining players and say that my gut told me wolves were in that list But you're probably right, even if it is a fairly large list that you provided.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:02 AM   #820
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Depending on the results of the scans....

Just trying to think this through so don;t mind me if it makes no sense...

If the seer found a wolf it may be best to lynch me and allow the Mrs. to night kill that wolf. Reason being, if per chance that wolf is the brutal they could take out the seer with the brutal and then take me out tonight with a 2 for 1. If the Mrs takes them out I believe the brutal ability is lost and the seer gets another scan in.


Thoughts?
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:04 AM   #821
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My sarcastic side wanted to post all the remaining players and say that my gut told me wolves were in that list But you're probably right, even if it is a fairly large list that you provided.

lol, true, large list but I actually left you off the list (which scares the hell out ofme because usually I think you are a wolf every game and the only time I don't you actually end up being one).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:05 AM   #822
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Now if the seer didn't find a wolf, no need in worrying about that.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:43 AM   #823
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Coulda been worse, that's the best I can say about today though. hopefully tomorrow will be better
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:19 AM   #824
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Bleurgh!

I think that if the seer has even two or three villager clears then it might be worth revealing. We're, what? Probably 11-3 at the moment? EF and Packer are both pretty much cleared and Zinto looks pretty good as well, chuck in the seer and, say, two villagers still alive and cleared and that leaves 5 or 6-3 and the bodyguard can protect the seer tonight. If the seer's scanned a wolf then I say definitely come forward.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:27 AM   #825
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Day One


Sun 11:43 #71 Autumn votes Lathum (1)
Sun 14:28 #76 Thomkal votes Danny (1)
Sun 14:38 #77 Narcizo votes EagleFan (1)
Sun 17:05 #81 bhlloy votes Zinto (1)
Sun 19:05 #86 EagleFan votes Autumn (1)
Sun 20:47 #93 PackerFanatic votes Autumn (2)

09:43 #96 J23 votes Eaglefan (2)
10:49 #98 Thomkal unvotes Danny (0)
10:49 #98 Thomkal votes J23 (1)
11:45 #113 MrBug votes JAG (1)
11:55 #116 EagleFan unvotes Autumn (1)
11:55 #116 EagleFan votes J23 (2)
12:47 #118 Danny votes J23 (3)

14:23 #128 Zinto votes Mau (1)
14:32 #129 Danny unvotes J23 (2)
14:36 #133 Mau votes zinto (2)
14:36 #135 Danny votes PackerFanatic (1)
15:38 #136 Narcizo unvotes EagleFan (1)
15:38 #136 Narcizo votes PackerFanatic (2)
16:13 #141 Zinto unvotes Mau (0)
16:26 #143 JAG votes mckerney (1)
17:17 #145 Zinto votes mckerney (2)

17:35 #149 Jackal votes zinto (3)
17:53 #153 mckerney votes zinto (4)
18:08 #157 Autumn unvotes Lathum (0)
18:08 #157 Autumn votes JAG (2)
18:23 #159 Darth Vilus votes mckerney (3)
18:39 #160 Dwardzala votes PackerFanatic (3)

19:09 #172 EagleFan unvotes J23 (1)
19:09 #172 EagleFan votes mckerney (4)
19:25 #177 Lathum votes PackerFanatic (4)
19:36 #182 Hoopsguy votes PackerFanatic (5)
19:57 #190 Packer unvotes Autumn (0)
19:57 #190 Packer votes mckerney (5)
20:02 #191 DaddyTorgo votes Zinto (5)

20:23 #194 Autumn unvotes JAG (1)
20:23 #194 Autumn votes Zinto (6)
20:46 #196 DaddyTorgo unvotes Zinto (5)
20:49 #197 Telle votes Packer (6)
21:02 #207 mckerney unvotes Zinto (4)
21:02 #207 mckerney votes Packer (7)
21:08 #209 Lathum unvotes Packer (6)
21:08 #209 Lathum votes bhlloy (1)

21:30 #217 EagleFan unvotes mckerney (4)
21:31 #218 J23 unvotes EagleFan (0)
21:31 #218 J23 votes Zinto (5)
21:33 #220 Packer unvotes mckerney (3)
21:33 #220 Packer votes Zinto (6)
21:33 #221 Eaglefan votes Zinto (7)
21:41 #227 mckerney unvotes Packer (5)
21:41 #227 mckerney votes JAG (2)
21:42 #229 DaddyTorgo votes mckerney (4)
21:47 #239 EagleFan unvotes Zinto (6)
21:47 #239 EagleFan votes Packer (6)
21:53 #246 JAG unvotes mckerney (3)
21:53 #246 JAG votes Packer (7)
21:55 #249 Zinto unvotes mckerney (2)
21:55 #249 Zinto votes Packer (8)
22:00 #256 Lathum unvotes bhlloy (0)
22:00 #256 Lathum votes JAG (3)
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:33 AM   #826
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Day Two

06:53 #322 Narcizo votes dwardzala (1)
07:41 #326 Mau votes zinto (1)
09:45 #339 Mau unvotes zinto (0)
09:45 #339 Mau votes Packer (1)
11:35 #361 dwardzala votes Packer (2)
11:36 #362 EagleFan votes MrBug (1)
11:40 #364 bhlloy votes J23 (1)
11:48 #368 Autumn votes J23 (2)

12:42 #378 Hoopsguy votes Packer (3)

13:11 #389 Lathum votes Autumn (1)
13:19 #400 EagleFan unvotes MrBug (0)
13:19 #400 Eaglefan votes J23 (3)
13:43 #419 J23 votes mckerney (1)
14:03 #432 MrBug votes EagleFan (1)
14:41 #446 Darth Vilus votes Packer (4)


16:14 #460 Packer votes J23 (4)
16:17 #461 zinto votes Mau (1)
16:24 #463 bhlloy unvotes J23 (3)
16:41 #466 Telle votes DaddyTorgo (1)


Packer Reveals


17:21 #483 Autumn unvotes J23 (2)
17:21 #483 Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (2)
17:33 #485 Jackal votes DaddyTorgo (3)
17:56 #486 Hoops unvotes Packer (3)
17:59 #490 Mau unvotes Packer (2)
17:59 #490 Mau votes Thomkal (1)
17:59 #491 Hoops votes Mau (2)
18:16 #500 dwardzala unvotes Packer (1)


18:50 #507 dwardzala votes Mau (3)
19:06 #508 Packer unvotes J23 (1)
19:06 #509 Packer votes Mau (4)
19:30 #520 MrBug unvotes EagleFan (0)
19:42 #528 mau unvotes thomkal (0)
19:44 #530 mau votes Autumn (2)
19:56 #536 mau unvotes Autumn (1)
19:56 #536 mau votes Packer (2)


20:10 #542 Thomkal votes dwardzala (2)
20:15 #545 bhlloy votes Autumn (2)
20:23 #547 J23 unvotes mckerney (0)
20:32 #550 J23 votes dwardzala (3)
20:36 #553 MrBug votes J23 (2)
20:48 #559 mckerney votes Autumn (3)
21:04 #568 EagleFan unvotes J23 (1)
21:04 #569 EagleFan votes Autumn (4)
21:20 #573 DaddyTorgo votes Autumn (5)

21:52 #593 Mau unvotes Packer (1)
21:52 #593 Mau votes Autumn (6)
21:53 #594 Thomkal unvotes dwardzala (2)
21:53 #594 Thomkal votes mau (5)
21:57 #600 Telle unvotes DaddyTorgo (2)
21:57 #600 Telle votes mau (6)
21:57 #601 DaddyTorgo unvotes Autumn (5)
21:57 #601 DaddyTorgo votes mau (7)
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:04 AM   #827
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Day Three


07:51 #670 Narcizo votes Darth Vilus (1)
09:25 #677 Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (1)
10:03 #678 EagleFan votes Autumn (1)
14:43 #692 Thomkal votes dwaldzala (1)
14:46 #693 Darth Vilus votes Autumn (2)
15:04 #694 Narcizo unvotes Darth Vilus (0)
15:04 #694 Narcizo votes Dwardzala (2)
15:13 #695 Telle votes DaddyTorgo (2)
15:22 #697 Packer votes Autumn (3)
15:36 #699 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (3)

16:03 #703 Jackal votes Dwardzala (4)
16:43 #704 Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (3)
17:45 #708 J23 votes Dwardzala (5)
18:04 #709 mckerney votes Autumn (4)
18:06 #710 Packer unvotes Autumn (3)
18:06 #710 Packer votes Dwardzala (6)
18:17 #711 Dwardzala votes Thomkal (1)

19:05 #714 Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (4)
20:07 #719 EagleFan unvotes Autumn (2)
20:07 #719 EagleFan votes DaddyTorgo (5)
21:03 #727 Dwardzala unvotes Thomkal (0)
21:03 #727 Dwardzala votes DaddyTorgo (6)
21:22 #729 Autumn unvotes DaddyTorgo (5)
21:22 #729 Autumn votes Dwardzala (7)
21:39 #740 EagleFan unvotes DaddyTorgo (4)
21:39 #740 EagleFan votes Autumn (3)
21:56 #758 DaddyTorgo votes Autumn (4)
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:11 AM   #828
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Day One

6 - Zinto - bhlloy (81) mauboy (133) Jackal (149) Autumn (194) J23 (218) PackerFanatic (220)
1 - J23 - Thomkal (98)
3 - JAG - MrBug (113) mckerney (227) Lathum (256)
8 - PackerFanatic - Danny (135) Narcizo (136) dwardzala (160) hoopsguy (182) Telle (197) EagleFan (239) JAG (246) Zinto (249)
2 - mckerney - Darth Vilus (159) DaddyTorgo (229)

Day Two

2 - dwardzala - Narcizo (322) J23 (550)
1 - PackerFanatic - Darth Vilus (446)
1 - J23 - MrBug708 (553)
5 - Autumn - Lathum (389) bhlloy (545) mckerney (559) EagleFan (568) mauboy (593)
7 - mauboy - Zinto (461) hoopsguy (491) dwardzala (507) PackerFanatic (509) Thomkal (594) Telle (600) DaddyTorgo (601)
2 - DaddyTargo - Autumn (483) Jackal (485)

Day Three

4 - DaddyTorgo - Telle (695) Zinto (704) hoopsguy (714) dwardzala (727)
4 - Autumn - Darth Vilus (693) mckerney (709) EagleFan (740) DaddyTorgo (758)
7 - dwardzala - Thomkal (692) Narcizo (694) bhlloy (699) The Jackal (703) J23 (708) PackerFanatic (710) Autumn (729)
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:18 AM   #829
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I've bunged Packer in as fully cleared because the only way he isn't who he says he is, is if the duke role isn't in the game. And that seems a big stretch. Eaglefan is pale blue but really he could be dark blue as well because there's no way a wolf fakes that reveal with Mother Wolf still on the loose.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:56 AM   #830
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Anyway, my time is going to be pretty limited from now on. It's a half day today at work and then we're going to be in the old farmhouse over the weekend. Hopefully the dial-up will work but it's slow as molasses so I'm not feeling too confident about being able to contribute much. (luckily you might say, given my current record).

Of those who haven't revealed I feel very good about Autumn (barring a seer reveal today) and Zinto. As far as I can see everybody else is pretty much a suspect, and I have to say that I'm looking like a big fat (well thin(ish) actually - although I am starting to put on some pounds. I say it's relaxed muscle though) suspect at the moment. As I won't have to time/won't be around to defend myself later I'm going to have to do it now (and no doubt make myself look overly defensive by doing so). Maybe everybody should offer a self-evaluation and defence?

I've been pretty clear that I wanted to look at quieter people in this game. I think I have been consistent to that within the constraints of my schedule. My votes have been on villagers three days in a row - but if you think that Autumn and Zinto are villagers then so has Bhlloy, J23, Packer and EagleFan's. DT, if you are a villager, that goes for Telle, Zinto, Hoops and Dwardzala as well. While the game is going well for us we've been lousy in our voting - we've had luck and EagleFan to thank for the success we've had.

I pointed out that I thought the switched vote on day one was to tie things up, not to save Packer. I wasn't sure about that which is why I asked hoops who he thought was a valid candidate to run against Packer because I was genuinely at a loss and I knew that hoops is a) a good villager and b) strongly opposed to run-away votes, which the vote looked like it was going to become at the time. I was pretty sure Packer was good so I wanted to find a decent opponent to run against him who wasn't just Packer-lite (which I intrepreted the other candidate J23 to be).

Yesterday I think I did a good enough job of outlining my thinking. I was swinging between voting Dward or Darth Vilus, chose Darth but once Thomkal voted Dward then I followed him there as I wanted to get behind one of "my" candidates. Obviously I wish I'd just left my vote where it was but there you go. Dward did have that defensive "self-preservation" vote thing going on on day two after getting one single vote, which seemed like an over-reaction and made me happy enough to move onto him.

Yeah, that's about it really.
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Old 04-21-2011, 04:50 AM   #831
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Gotta love Oingo Boingo


Yes. You gotta.

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Old 04-21-2011, 05:18 AM   #832
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OK, so to get this straight - we have to lynch EagleFan today or both he and Mother Wolf will get it tonight? Unless the bodyguard didn't protect him last night - but we have no way of knowing if he did or didn't? That kinda sucks then.

I propose that we hold a vote as we would normally. Barring any other reveals and the way things go down Packer decides whether he wants to duke the lynch to Eagle based on discussion today. Unless we know the bodyguard is able to defend Eagle he will probably have to duke to Eagle as I guess the wolves can send in a conditional kill order (ie if Eagle is alive kill him, otherwise kill x)

The seer scans whoever the vote-winner is. Unfortunately the plan falls down if the seer isn't around at deadline so maybe have a soft-deadline a couple of hours in advance. If the seer outs a wolf today then Mother Wolf will night kill them so we don't vote for an outed wolf.

Does that sound like a decent plan to get some sort of voting record and avoid Mother Wolf biting the bullet with Eagle. My main concern is that it looks pretty likely we lose two villagers today that way.

Another plan is to ask Mother Wolf to kill the person we vote for. Makes the vote more authentic and allows the seer to scan someone else but risks us losing three villagers in one day. Thoughts about this?
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:54 AM   #833
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Trying to look at day one with the fresh perspective of knowing who is good and bad. At the moment J23/Zinto/Packer are 2 a piece #143.

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I hate when I decide to go with my gut more early on and of course my gut hasn't given me direction other than at lunchtime. I have the same general unease others have so I'm going ahead and adding another quiet player to the mix (who I almost forgot was playing) rather than those who are at least contributing and that we can more easily suss out due to their posts as the game goes on.

Vote mckerney

I do agree with what Zinto's saying though, so guaranteed I will move this vote if it looks like it will end up a singleton.

I think you could argue that this is trying to deflect the vote from those three. Read along and what happens? Zinto, Packer and mckerney pick up votes and J23 recedes from the running. Notice how JAG references what other people have been saying to validate his point.

I think this pushes mckerney into more trusted territory for me but it does raise questions about J23. Unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of time to follow this through. I'm off home soon.
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:05 AM   #834
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vote - J23

Got a interesting feeling about him right now, we'll see if there is something different that happens in the next hour plus or so

Ok. Really? So it's a wolf voting for someone but we know Bug isn't scared of putting a vote on a wolf and just reading how the day progresses I really don't think you can say it was putting J23 in a lot of heat.

I dunno. I'm probably doing the day three-four Narkle fixation and finding an unlikely candidate. But at the moment I'm leaning to J23 or Darth Vilus. (DV pretty much for the same reason as yesterday) Wish I had more time - I'll have to see what develops under the day.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:53 AM   #835
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Another plan is to ask Mother Wolf to kill the person we vote for. Makes the vote more authentic and allows the seer to scan someone else but risks us losing three villagers in one day. Thoughts about this?
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Been thinking further about this. If we do decide this than another idea is to just lynch away as normal and then let the wolves get their nightkill in on Eagle. Advantage there is that if the bodyguard didn't protect Eagle last night then he'll be able to do it tonight and the wolves will be left in a "did he/didn't he" quandary. Also the seer won't be night killed tonight if they try to hit Eagle. So the seer will get another scan in tonight and will have bodyguard protection tomorrow night if he reveals tomorrow. Which, let's face it, he probably should.

All depends on reveals today though. Hopefully we get a wolf handed to us today.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:28 AM   #836
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I hope one of those mice was a big fat one named Jerry! I certainly expected to die last night, but not via the bad guys. Bit puzzled over why they would kill me really, but ah well that's life well death I guess.

good luck to everybody and thanks for a great game CrimsonFox!
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:02 AM   #837
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You've missed having mauboy in green and you should be listing yourself in the same blue as PF (my opinion).

However, this was the day that jumped out for me in the color-coded results. Because we're down to two "unknowns" on Autumn.
- If he's a villager, chances are there was a wolf on him in an effort to spread votes.
- If he is a wolf, then the other wolves probably sold out to try and protect him (we already know MrBug didn't go there, but obviously wolves would try to protect their own to some extent)

This is the vote that jumped out at me as well. My vote will be going to one of those three today (unless we decide it best to lynch EF, which may be a good option to avoid a major killing tonight)
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:14 AM   #838
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Just a thought.

Vote as normal today.

If PF dukes to me the mrs. could night kill the person that would have been lynched. If the seer is on and hasn't come out prior to the deadline I would suggest that he posts his results as soon as the deadline hits.

On the plus side, I do have reason to believe that I was not protected last night.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:16 AM   #839
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Very busy this morning. Will try to check back in sometime around lunch (hopefully get a chance to take a lunch).
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:18 AM   #840
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I know that day one reads are not the best thing to go on but this person got on my radar that day with what seemed to be too much of an explanation for his vote and then getting defensive about it. Backed off him but his voting record doesn't look the greatest either (though I really seem to suck at reading into voting records).

vote J23
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:29 AM   #841
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Really good thoughts today, Narcizo, thanks. I'm not sure what the best tack to take on EF is. I'm going to reread the rules and ponder that.

I'm also not sure why Thomkal got nailed. I plan to read back through his posts and see. There might be a clue there.

I think JAG avoiding those three voters to add Mckerney into the mix might be a worthy data point to work from. The other point of looking at those two voters on me is worthwhile, but I no longer really subscribe to the "wolves must have spread out" theory. It just hasn't worked well for us of late, especially in a vote like that with a lot of places to hide. But it's certainly a better gamble than other spots.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:35 AM   #842
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Now having simply redone the work Narcizo did above, I realize that J23, Zinto and PackerFan were those three. It's highly illogical that Zinto would be a wolf, as well as PackerFan, so now I see the vote for J23. However, if only one of those three is a wolf it puts less strength on the argument that JAG was voting elsewhere for that reason. So I don't see that as a strong data point anymore
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:39 AM   #843
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I guess at this point I have to hope that the seer is working on me and DT, anyone who's been getting a lot of votes. That makes the most sense to me. More useful for us would be to look at the people who haven't received any votes in the game so far and pull them into the limelight.

I'd say that's Telle, Hoopsguy, Darth Vilus, Mckerney, Narcizo, Bhlloy and The Jackal. Everybody else has either received a significant number of votes in one day or revealed.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:04 AM   #844
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I'm starting to wonder if Gonzo was our seer

I know, I know ... it says "vanilla wolf" next to his name on page 1 ....
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:15 AM   #845
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I hate how quiet he has been and I have noticed when he is a wolf he is a lot more quiet then when he is a villager so hopefully this gets him talking.

Vote DV
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:30 AM   #846
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I know that day one reads are not the best thing to go on but this person got on my radar that day with what seemed to be too much of an explanation for his vote and then getting defensive about it. Backed off him but his voting record doesn't look the greatest either (though I really seem to suck at reading into voting records).

vote J23

This was too much of an explanation?

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Well, I don't want to just throw out a 6th candidate, especially when I have no idea. So I'll

vote eaglefan

Simply because I tried to do it last game when he was a wolf, but noone listened to me!
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:56 AM   #847
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Read back through a lot of posts. You guys are all suspect. Or none of you. Taht's all I've got so far.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:56 AM   #848
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Off to another quiet start today. I would agree on J23 being on a short list today, probably with DT. Both of those guys have been tough to pin down on much of anything in this game.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:07 AM   #849
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Vote J23
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:09 AM   #850
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Jackal and Narcizo aren't getting any discussion, for unknowns that have put early votes on and let them stick all three days (and yeah I know I pretty much fall into that category as well). My perception of Narc is that he's playing his usual game but that's what any smart wolf does. My perception of Jackal is that he's a lot quieter than normal and isn't putting out the same level of analysis that he usually does.

DV would be another one I'd look at today, but he's always quiet when he's working. I don't have a read on him either way at all.

DT is a funny one, he's done some stuff that has really peaked my interest - but he was nearly voted a couple days back and there was no movement at all to save him. I think we can do better than him today.
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