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Old 01-05-2021, 11:54 PM   #801
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The racist history of Georgia's runoff election system

Since we have a lot of history lovers here, I didn't know until today that runoff elections in the south primarily exist explicitly as a form of white supremacy and to suppress the black vote. This article suggests that in states like Georgia it can't really do that successfully anymore, but that it can in places like Alabama and Mississippi.

Mississippi's is next level. They scrapped their 1890 system in the last eletion that created a Electoral College-like deal for statewide elections. Shout out to those dudes though, as they transparently indicated at the time why they were doing it. No need for coded language in 1890.

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The state’s 1890 Constitution requires a candidate for statewide office to win not only the majority of the popular vote, but also a majority of the 122 state House districts. A candidate could win the statewide popular vote, but if they didn’t win the majority of the state House districts, the election would be decided by the state House of Representatives. Those representatives weren’t required to vote in accordance with the majority in their district.

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Old 01-05-2021, 11:55 PM   #802
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:12 AM   #803
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Political Polls also calls it for Ossoff
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:14 AM   #804
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:21 AM   #805
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Warnock will win by 90-100,000. Ossoff by 50-60,000.
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:24 AM   #806
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NYTimes says there are 93,000 votes left to count and the Dems estimated share of those would be 77%-Ossoff would win by 69,000. Warnock would win by 106,000
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:26 AM   #807
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:32 AM   #808
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:46 AM   #809
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I am completely dumbfounded that it appears to have played out if the Dems take control of the Senate this way. I am not getting my hopes up until it's called, but fuck, am I going to enjoy the shit out of it if they do.
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:46 AM   #810
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Old 01-06-2021, 02:26 AM   #811
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Warnock declared winner by most outlets. Ossoff up by around 10 thousand votes with mail in ballots in Democratic area to come.

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Old 01-06-2021, 05:55 AM   #812
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:51 AM   #813
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The elections are not going to be certified until January 22. How does McConnell proceed until then?
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Old 01-06-2021, 07:29 AM   #814
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Old 01-06-2021, 07:53 AM   #815
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Didn’t they call it super early for Warnock?
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Old 01-06-2021, 07:56 AM   #816
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Yeah, they did. I remember seeing that and thinking it was strange, but then I thought that maybe Newsmax wasn’t what I thought it was.

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Old 01-06-2021, 08:03 AM   #817
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Probably can call it now.

Congrats Biden, you have your Congress. Go do your thing for the next 2 years.

Definitely ready to see how you get us out of the Covid mess and also what you'll do on immigration now.

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Old 01-06-2021, 08:15 AM   #818
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:21 AM   #819
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If Georgia didn't have the runoff system, GOP would control the Senate 51-49.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:30 AM   #820
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Nobody wants to support the party that has turned in to cry babies and cheaters?
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Old 01-06-2021, 09:12 AM   #821
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I don't get all of these hot takes about how this is a rejection of Trump's tactics after the election, as if we didn't know who he was after him being president for a full term. It seems pretty clearly this was a case of buying the vote - neither Trump or Biden were at all shy that that is what they were going for, and it was also obvious they weren't going to get it with a GOP Senate.

The rest I'm sure had some impact as well, and perhaps we'll get more data on what people say is the why in the coming days, but it seems pretty transparent that's a major cause.
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Old 01-06-2021, 09:58 AM   #822
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The elections are not going to be certified until January 22. How does McConnell proceed until then?

I am sure there are plenty of unwritten rules and conventions he can ignore and subvert ...
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:01 AM   #823
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What a great morning to wake up to the overnight count tally verifying where it looked like things were headed.

Hey Lindsey, you were right all along! GOP got destroyed and you deserve it.
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:31 AM   #824
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I am sure there are plenty of unwritten rules and conventions he can ignore and subvert ...

Would he go so far as to deny seating them over the 'controversy' that is sure to follow? His own attempt to retain power?
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:37 AM   #825
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I am sure there are plenty of unwritten rules and conventions he can ignore and subvert ...

I’m sure he’ll ignore some of the written ones too
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:48 AM   #826
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Nobody wants to support the party that has turned in to cry babies and cheaters?

At least 40% of the country supports them and what they're doing today, and a little more than that in Georgia.
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:58 AM   #827
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It strikes me that if someone pitched what happened in Georgia as a movie (or a West Wing episode), it'd be rejected for being too far fetched.

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Old 01-06-2021, 11:04 AM   #828
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The historical retrospective on this time will be incredible if it's eventually shown to be the dumpster fire it is. Of course, if the trumpers win in the end, and we're all subjected to the USofT for eternity, then we'll all be reading about how the dynasty saved the world.
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Old 01-06-2021, 11:28 AM   #829
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Would he go so far as to deny seating them over the 'controversy' that is sure to follow? His own attempt to retain power?

No idea. Was largely meant in jest, because these past few months have really driven home how fragile, cumbersome and inefficient the US democratic system really is.

But then again, i don't have to live in your crazy world of politics trying to somehow entrust democracy to man's adherence to a 200 year old documents and what it's creators may or may not have intended for a nation/society not in the slightest comparable anymore.
Granted, it took 2 World Wars and unspeakable tragedy spread under the guise of legitimate governmental procedure to get our shit together and close various detrimental loopholes ...
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:19 PM   #830
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Merrick Garland is Biden's pick for Attorney General

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Old 01-06-2021, 12:22 PM   #831
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Fucking awesome. I hope he goes after every last one of them
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:22 PM   #832
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Was hoping for Yates once the Georgia Senate seats flipped. I guess they don't have to worry about filling judges but Garland is such a bland pick.
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:29 PM   #833
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I agree on him being bland. It does feel like a decent move. 2 1/2 stars.
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:41 PM   #834
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It gets an extra 1.5 stars up to 4 stars for the giant middle finger at the GOP
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:43 PM   #835
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Nobody in the GOP cares about Garland. He's the guy they fucked over, who cares what he does with the rest of his life?
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:52 PM   #836
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Nobody in the GOP cares about Garland. He's the guy they fucked over, who cares what he does with the rest of his life?

Oh, I don’t know. If the guy you fucked over is now in a position to investigate and possibly bring charges against you, you might care a little.
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Old 01-06-2021, 01:12 PM   #837
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I think the bigger deal is being able to replace him on the DC Circuit.
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Old 01-06-2021, 02:33 PM   #838
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Graham came out today to applaud the Garland pick. He's a moderate who won't touch the white collar stuff they care about. It is not a middle finger.
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Old 01-06-2021, 03:30 PM   #839
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Which fucking idiot on the Dem side will come out first alking about how we need to reach across the aisle?
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Old 01-06-2021, 03:30 PM   #840
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Nevermind Chris Coons did it this morning lol
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Old 01-08-2021, 11:43 AM   #841
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Ossoff is up over a point now. Warnock is almost at 2 points. I couldn't be more proud of my state, which I rarely get to say.
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Old 01-08-2021, 11:55 AM   #842
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Ossoff is up over a point now. Warnock is almost at 2 points. I couldn't be more proud of my state, which I rarely get to say.

If those hold, it will be impressive how accurate the Election Needle was. It closed at 3:00 AM with Warnock at 2.0 and Ossoff at 1.1. I believe at that time Warnock was up by .4-.6 and Ossoff was close to tied.
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Old 01-08-2021, 11:56 AM   #843
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I wonder if/when Perdue will concede. Seems like it would be nice for Georgia to have two senators at a time like this.
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Old 01-08-2021, 12:48 PM   #844
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This crap has already started. The next two years is going to be having to kowtow to Manchin on everything.



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Old 01-08-2021, 12:53 PM   #845
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There are quite a few republicans who support it. The good news is that votes can actually be scheduled now, right?
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Old 01-08-2021, 01:05 PM   #846
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Old 01-08-2021, 01:11 PM   #847
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There are quite a few republicans who support it. The good news is that votes can actually be scheduled now, right?
Could, but Congress is not coming back until Biden is sworn in (unless it is for impeachment).

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Old 01-08-2021, 01:23 PM   #848
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Posturing is all part of the normal legislative back and forth.

It has been so long since we've had a normal executive/legislative relationship that we've forgotten what it is supposed to look like.

They are *supposed* to argue and debate in the media. And in backrooms. And then they agree to something that isn't quite what everyone wants but that lets everyone go back to their constituents and say "see, look what I did for you!"
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Old 01-08-2021, 01:30 PM   #849
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I actually think this is a situation that Biden and maybe only Biden can overcome. I have no doubt he can make a deal with Manchin.
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Old 01-08-2021, 02:50 PM   #850
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Perdue officially concedes. Nothing like a coup to get people to back off their "never concede" stances.

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