WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN - Page 18

mauchow · 10-04-2011, 08:29 PM

That leaves Saldana for me.

vote saldana

Autumn · 10-04-2011, 08:29 PM

hoopsguy · 10-04-2011, 08:29 PM

Hmm, we sure seem to be doing a good job of finding roled Lightbringers after everyone and their moms were vanilla on Day 1.

Autumn · 10-04-2011, 08:29 PM

dzilla -
saldana - EF, sndvls, mauboy
dubb - lathum
mauboy -
autumn - grammaticus
mckerney - narcizo, hoops, mrbug, commo, dzilla
jackal - saldana, autumn
lathum - dubb, jackal, danny, RA
mrbug - CF, mckerney

mauchow · 10-04-2011, 08:29 PM

I'm going to be leaving shortly to head to the bar before the flag fb game - I will check on phone while drinking the beers.

Autumn · 10-04-2011, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hmm, we sure seem to be doing a good job of finding roled Lightbringers after everyone and their moms were vanilla on Day 1.

Insert "your mom" joke here.

mauchow · 10-04-2011, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

dzilla -
saldana - EF, sndvls, mauboy
dubb - lathum
mauboy -
autumn - grammaticus
mckerney - narcizo, hoops, mrbug, commo, dzilla
jackal - saldana, autumn
lathum - dubb, jackal, danny, RA
mrbug - CF, mckerney

I see what you did. You left my name in there!!! SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES~!!!1

EagleFan · 10-04-2011, 08:34 PM

Why do I suddenly feel like I should vote for mau?

Lathum · 10-04-2011, 08:34 PM

vote count?

Lathum · 10-04-2011, 08:34 PM

unvote Dubb
Vote Saldana

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:35 PM

hmmm going back here I guess

VOTE Saldana

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Why do I suddenly feel like I should vote for mau?

I'm getting that feeling too.

Commo_Soldier · 10-04-2011, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Another place I like to keep a hairy eyeball is in the first few people who move off a person after reveal. I know as a wolf you don't want to look like you were reluctant to move off a roled villager, so I think wolves tend to be among the first to jump ship. in this case, Saldana, Jackal and Commo were the first off, just for posterity's sake.

Just to note, when I attempted to move, he hadn't yet revealed.

hoopsguy · 10-04-2011, 08:36 PM

I see nothing in the rules indicating that Servants will know which roles are in/out of the game. With that in mind, I'm more inclined to believe mckerney than dzilla with their reveals ... dzilla revealed a more powerful role, and one that might be intended to flush out another player. mckerney's reveal is probably less likely to be in the game, but both the role and his delivery of the role are relatively understated and don't offer as much clearance.

I hope any seer-type will add dzilla to their list to validate at some point - I like feeling good about trusted roles that stick around for awhile.

In the meantime,
UNVOTE MCKERNEY

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:36 PM

saldana 5 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) Lathum (860) crimsonfox (861)
mckerney 5 - narcizo (645) hoop (693) mrbug (758) Commo (766) dzilla (790)
lathum 4 - dubb (660) jackal (768) danny (772) raiders (794)
Bug 1 - mckerney (771)
jackal 2 - saldana (759) autumn (843)
autumn 1 - grammaticus (779)

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:37 PM

saldana 5 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) Lathum (860) crimsonfox (861)
mckerney 4 - narcizo (645) mrbug (758) Commo (766) dzilla (790)
lathum 4 - dubb (660) jackal (768) danny (772) raiders (794)
Bug 1 - mckerney (771)
jackal 2 - saldana (759) autumn (843)
autumn 1 - grammaticus (779)

dzilla77 · 10-04-2011, 08:38 PM

unvote mckerney
vote saldana

This is really where I wanted to put my vote earlier, but there wasn't enough traction and I still had a few votes at the time.

Maybe it will gain traction now.

Lathum · 10-04-2011, 08:38 PM

can someone please tell me what roles they both revealed as?

dzilla77 · 10-04-2011, 08:39 PM

Looks like it did.

mauchow · 10-04-2011, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Why do I suddenly feel like I should vote for mau?

lol why?

Because I joked about autumn leaving my name in there so people didn't forget about me?

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:39 PM

mckerney - martyr
dzilla - exorcist
bhlloy - i forget but he's dead

dzilla77 · 10-04-2011, 08:39 PM

I revealed as the exorcist
mckerney revealed as the matyr

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:40 PM

oh yeah keeper of the flame (which makes me think of the Bangles' song "Eternal Flame"

mckerney · 10-04-2011, 08:41 PM

Unvote MrBug
Vote Saldana

Lathum · 10-04-2011, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

mckerney - martyr
dzilla - exorcist
bhlloy - i forget but he's dead

ok, thanks. Just need to know what roles to NOT reveal as if it comes to that!

Autumn · 10-04-2011, 08:42 PM

Hoops, I thought Abe said at some point that all villager roles are in the game. Anyone confirm that?

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:43 PM

LOL I have never seen someone try and hint that they are a wolf moreso than you and autumn in this game.

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:43 PM

The last 5 votes have all been for Saldana. Saldana absolutely does not fit the script I laid out of the last page. Are we voting Saldana b/c we are worried he tried to save NtN at the end....on D1....in a game with a high likely hood of conversions going forward?

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:44 PM

24 people I think is our confirmation of that autumn...

dzilla77 · 10-04-2011, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, thanks. Just need to know what roles to NOT reveal as if it comes to that!

At least your honest.

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:46 PM

saldana 7 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) Lathum (860) crimsonfox (861) dzilla (867) mckerney (874)
mckerney 3 - narcizo (645) mrbug (758) Commo (766)
lathum 4 - dubb (660) jackal (768) danny (772) raiders (794)
jackal 2 - saldana (759) autumn (843)
autumn 1 - grammaticus (779)

dzilla77 · 10-04-2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

The last 5 votes have all been for Saldana. Saldana absolutely does not fit the script I laid out of the last page. Are we voting Saldana b/c we are worried he tried to save NtN at the end....on D1....in a game with a high likely hood of conversions going forward?

I'm not dead set, what is your case for Lathum?

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzilla77

I'm not dead set, what is your case for Lathum?

He looks and acts funny.

CrimsonFox · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

He looks and acts funny.

WRONG GAME! That was evil dead where you vote for people that look funny.

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

In all seriousness I think I have for the most part put my case out there. I have nothing else to add.

Lathum · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzilla77

I'm not dead set, what is your case for Lathum?

He claims I made an unexplained D1 vote (in reality we all are doing that), I made a cryptic claim to a role, yet wasn't killed, and that I never admitted I was wrong about the way I read a comment from Hoops (even though I did).

So really his reasoning is he is mad I voted for him.

Grammaticus · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

I'm basically 100% positive he can.

It also sounds like they come back with a different role. Probably vanilla.

Danny · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

So with my wife gone tonight, I think I am going to break out my two foot dry salame

hoopsguy · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Hoops, I thought Abe said at some point that all villager roles are in the game. Anyone confirm that?

I saw two different areas in the rules that seemed somewhat conflicted on this point:

After listing the villager roles, there is this:

Quote:

Not all of these roles will be in the game. It's possible there could be Lightbringer roles not listed above as well.

But in the following post, I saw this:

Quote:

There are no hidden Lightbringer roles beyond the Exorcized. There may be more than one of each role

So I'm not sure, but what I clearly did not see was anything about "Servants know roles X, Y, and Z are not in game". So any Servant bluffing should in fact be bluffing, rather than having comfort that they won't be countered by the actual role/player.

SnDvls · 10-04-2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Thank you autumn, you were being timed!

+1

hoopsguy · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

So with my wife gone tonight, I think I am going to break out my two foot dry salame

Every dude thinks his salame is two feet.

dzilla77 · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

He looks and acts funny.

Umm, I need a little more than that.

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

And no I don't have an interest in seeing Lathum lynched per-se, but I just don't think Saldana fits the script today. A wolf makes his move yesterday late in the game. No wolf makes that game on D1. As I said earlier, look at it through the lense that you are playing a wolf. What do you do on D1? I doubt you fight for NtN @ the deadline.

saldana · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

The last 5 votes have all been for Saldana. Saldana absolutely does not fit the script I laid out of the last page. Are we voting Saldana b/c we are worried he tried to save NtN at the end....on D1....in a game with a high likely hood of conversions going forward?

yes..that is exactly what is happening...unreal.

im a vanilla lightbringer, kill me all you want, the logic being used in this game is horrible

unvote jackal
vote lathum

Lathum · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

That's fine. We can play this out. I will stay the same as well. Between your vote with no reasoning yesterday, your cryptic roled comments yesterday(yet here you still are), and your refusal to admit you were wrong today I would say you are as good a candidate as any today as well.

This is his reasoning for voting me.

Danny · 10-04-2011, 08:50 PM

Id be willing to move my vote, but I dont think it will be to Saldana

Autumn · 10-04-2011, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

So with my wife gone tonight, I think I am going to break my two foot dry salame

Fixed it for ya.

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

So really his reasoning is he is mad I voted for him.

Harsh Lathum. Harsh.

saldana · 10-04-2011, 08:51 PM

i will send a check to anyone that can actually provide a single piece of logical argument for lynching me today.

dubb93 · 10-04-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

i will send a check to anyone that can actually provide a single piece of logical argument for lynching me today.

How big of a check?

10-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#852
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	jinx

10-04-2011, 08:34 PM	#858
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10-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#851
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	That leaves Saldana for me. vote saldana

10-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#853
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Hmm, we sure seem to be doing a good job of finding roled Lightbringers after everyone and their moms were vanilla on Day 1.

10-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#854
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	dzilla - saldana - EF, sndvls, mauboy dubb - lathum mauboy - autumn - grammaticus mckerney - narcizo, hoops, mrbug, commo, dzilla jackal - saldana, autumn lathum - dubb, jackal, danny, RA mrbug - CF, mckerney

10-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#855
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I'm going to be leaving shortly to head to the bar before the flag fb game - I will check on phone while drinking the beers.

10-04-2011, 08:34 PM	#859
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	vote count?

10-04-2011, 08:34 PM	#860
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	unvote Dubb Vote Saldana

10-04-2011, 08:35 PM	#861
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	hmmm going back here I guess VOTE Saldana

10-04-2011, 08:36 PM	#864
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I see nothing in the rules indicating that Servants will know which roles are in/out of the game. With that in mind, I'm more inclined to believe mckerney than dzilla with their reveals ... dzilla revealed a more powerful role, and one that might be intended to flush out another player. mckerney's reveal is probably less likely to be in the game, but both the role and his delivery of the role are relatively understated and don't offer as much clearance. I hope any seer-type will add dzilla to their list to validate at some point - I like feeling good about trusted roles that stick around for awhile. In the meantime, UNVOTE MCKERNEY

10-04-2011, 08:36 PM	#865
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	saldana 5 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) Lathum (860) crimsonfox (861) mckerney 5 - narcizo (645) hoop (693) mrbug (758) Commo (766) dzilla (790) lathum 4 - dubb (660) jackal (768) danny (772) raiders (794) Bug 1 - mckerney (771) jackal 2 - saldana (759) autumn (843) autumn 1 - grammaticus (779)

10-04-2011, 08:37 PM	#866
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	saldana 5 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) Lathum (860) crimsonfox (861) mckerney 4 - narcizo (645) mrbug (758) Commo (766) dzilla (790) lathum 4 - dubb (660) jackal (768) danny (772) raiders (794) Bug 1 - mckerney (771) jackal 2 - saldana (759) autumn (843) autumn 1 - grammaticus (779)

10-04-2011, 08:38 PM	#867
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	unvote mckerney vote saldana This is really where I wanted to put my vote earlier, but there wasn't enough traction and I still had a few votes at the time. Maybe it will gain traction now.

10-04-2011, 08:38 PM	#868
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	can someone please tell me what roles they both revealed as?

10-04-2011, 08:39 PM	#869
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	Looks like it did.

10-04-2011, 08:39 PM	#871
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	mckerney - martyr dzilla - exorcist bhlloy - i forget but he's dead

10-04-2011, 08:39 PM	#872
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	I revealed as the exorcist mckerney revealed as the matyr

10-04-2011, 08:40 PM	#873
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	oh yeah keeper of the flame (which makes me think of the Bangles' song "Eternal Flame"

10-04-2011, 08:41 PM	#874
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Unvote MrBug Vote Saldana

10-04-2011, 08:42 PM	#876
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Hoops, I thought Abe said at some point that all villager roles are in the game. Anyone confirm that?

10-04-2011, 08:43 PM	#877
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	LOL I have never seen someone try and hint that they are a wolf moreso than you and autumn in this game.

10-04-2011, 08:44 PM	#879
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	24 people I think is our confirmation of that autumn...

10-04-2011, 08:46 PM	#881
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	saldana 7 - eaglefan (662) SnDvls (789) mauboy (851) Lathum (860) crimsonfox (861) dzilla (867) mckerney (874) mckerney 3 - narcizo (645) mrbug (758) Commo (766) lathum 4 - dubb (660) jackal (768) danny (772) raiders (794) jackal 2 - saldana (759) autumn (843) autumn 1 - grammaticus (779)

10-04-2011, 08:48 PM	#888
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	So with my wife gone tonight, I think I am going to break out my two foot dry salame

10-04-2011, 08:50 PM	#896
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Id be willing to move my vote, but I dont think it will be to Saldana

10-04-2011, 08:51 PM	#899
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i will send a check to anyone that can actually provide a single piece of logical argument for lynching me today.

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