05-23-2012, 10:12 AM | #851 |
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So I've got almost ten pages to catch up on (even if two of them are about mayonnaise), and I promised some people I'd get some work done by noon. Smell you later.
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05-23-2012, 10:15 AM | #852 |
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Smell ya NOW!
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05-23-2012, 10:15 AM | #853 |
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Dude, y'all have enough going on it seems like, you don't want to mess with voting for me.
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05-23-2012, 10:17 AM | #854 |
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The thought that LSG was an accident and that's why I didn't get NK/brutal'ed is interesting. Definitely plausible and something I didn't think of. Hell of a good guess though unless she was hinting it at it earlier in the day
If that's the theory we are going for, I'll go here for now. Absent around deadline/post reveal but easily good enough player to read something off LSG in the previous days Vote CR |
05-23-2012, 10:19 AM | #855 |
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Oh, since the brutal was brought up, my thoughts on last night are that GE figured that bhlloy wouldn't go down, so maybe he (as the brutal) sacrificed himself to save whoever was next in line? (Sorry if that was already mentioned)
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05-23-2012, 10:30 AM | #856 |
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Sorry guys I've been swamped at work, just used my break to catch up on the thread.
Went with behavior I didn't like yesterday in voting for GE, I think for now I'm going to do that again. VOTE BRITROCK |
05-23-2012, 10:31 AM | #857 |
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Going to dinner/grocery shopping after work tonight, so again I will be a bit sparse. Will try and get some thoughts in during lunch.
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05-23-2012, 11:37 AM | #858 |
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Wow, this thread died. There's two pages from 5:30 am to 10:30 am, then none in the last hour? What gives?
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05-23-2012, 11:49 AM | #859 | |
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I've been thinking about that and you might have to. Think about it. If the seer reveals then he knows he's going to be converted and lynched as a wolf. Why will he want to give any information in that case? It's a tricky part of the rule. The options are that the seer comes out and we lynch him today which is the best option. Or you tell us who the seer is. |
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05-23-2012, 12:12 PM | #860 |
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Well my only PM to the seer was to tell him who I was, so look for somebody possibly defending me in the face of everybody else. That being said, I still read the rules as the seer has one more night after I get NK so I would hope the seer comes out tomorrow and give themselves up after getting one more scan in
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05-23-2012, 12:32 PM | #861 | |
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why would you rather not have said that? |
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05-23-2012, 12:39 PM | #862 |
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Because its info that could be used to identify the seer or at least give a better shot of seer hunting. But as Narc says the seer is gonna be a wolf soon, so it doesn't really matter either way
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05-23-2012, 12:58 PM | #863 |
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So would it make sense for us to lynch the seer today so the wolves don't get to have them around? I mean essentially it would be the same as killing a wolf.. Right?
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05-23-2012, 12:58 PM | #864 |
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And let me say, jeez that was a lot of reading to catch up.
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05-23-2012, 01:00 PM | #865 | |
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Okay. I don't see how that could be used to identify the seer, but I also don't see how the seer is gonna be a wolf soon, so I guess there's a lot I don't know about this game. |
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05-23-2012, 01:11 PM | #866 | |
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From rereading the character descriptions, yes it seems like if I die tonight by tomorrow our seer becomes a wolf. So ideally the seer reveals today. Of course you guys don't know I'm telling the truth so it's tricky. I was hoping for a scenario where the seer could reveal after I died. You could probably achieve that by lynching me today and then the seer reveals befor night actions are complete. However, that would give the wolves an extra NK to use and there's no guarantee the seer would be around or cooperative anyway |
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05-23-2012, 01:13 PM | #867 |
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Really seems like the big question is whether the seer would rather die a villager or live a wolf
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05-23-2012, 01:14 PM | #868 |
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05-23-2012, 01:16 PM | #869 |
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I have no idea, no. I can send PM to roles villagers but I'm not told who they are
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05-23-2012, 01:19 PM | #870 |
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05-23-2012, 01:23 PM | #871 |
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05-23-2012, 01:23 PM | #872 |
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I could make a pretty decent guess at who I think the seer could be, based on play style and the fact that he seemed to support me the two days I was up for lynch, and that's CF. But it's just a guess
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05-23-2012, 01:29 PM | #873 |
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05-23-2012, 01:30 PM | #874 |
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Ahhh I thought it was a night power - it was a day power.
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05-23-2012, 01:51 PM | #876 |
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Of course there is just as much chance a smart seer sees the writing on the wall and does everything to distance himself from me
This must be the first time in WW we have been trying to lynch the seer, no? |
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05-23-2012, 01:56 PM | #878 |
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I'm going to sleep. Crap day today personally.
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05-23-2012, 01:57 PM | #879 | |
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Yeah -- it's so annoying that the info about who is wolves and who isn't will be in wolf hands now! |
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05-23-2012, 01:58 PM | #880 |
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05-23-2012, 02:00 PM | #881 |
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My thoughts about the seer convert - this was dependent on both Charlie and Ray dying. It seems a bit excessive now that only one of those roles was actually in the game, no?
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05-23-2012, 02:02 PM | #882 |
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I don't know about lynching the seer today. But if they don't come out with who they scanned today will we be able to trust it when they do?
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05-23-2012, 02:19 PM | #883 |
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Well presumably they won't come out at all, seeing as they would be admitting to being a wolf in doing so
I agree I think the powers are wildly excessive. I knew once I was found out the game would be pretty much over. But it was confirmed to me via PM and I've seen nothing since to suggest those effects won't take place |
05-23-2012, 02:21 PM | #884 |
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Do we have any clue about the seer's identity, so we can react in any case if/when bhlloy is killed?
As for the votes on me so far today, I don't know what to say. I'm a citizen, so there's that. As for the day 1 voting, I wasn't up to speed on the thread and had little to go on, so when Autumn (IIRC) offered an explanation and moved to Narcizo, I trusted Autumn enough to want to move... only I was a minute late. Yesterday, after bhlloy's reveal, I followed his lead in moving to Chubby. If you want to blame my lack of originality in voting on being a wolf, that's understandable, I guess. But consider that it's much more likely that I'm just a new player who was pretty chastened by what happened in Portal. I apparently said too much there and was lynched for it. Now, here, I'm trying not to put my foot in my mouth, and that gets votes. I wish I could learn how to be a villager before being eyed as a wolf multiple times. |
05-23-2012, 02:26 PM | #885 |
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I was hoping we would not discuss the option of the seer not coming out since they would become a wolf soon. I figured we might get lucky and someone would reveal without thinking about that.
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05-23-2012, 02:29 PM | #886 |
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So, if the seer decides not to reveal we are going to be in a tough spot. If their are two conversions then we are going to be sitting at end game pretty soon so we have to make today count.
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05-23-2012, 02:29 PM | #887 |
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Well, we know who isn't the seer, and that is bhlloy.
The one thing this does give us is a better chance to get a "wolf" though. Then there's also whoever is Ronnie, who apparently can beat everyone in some fashion, or choose to join us or the wolves... We have a what.. about a 50/50 chance at lynching someone who could be considered a threat (if you include Ronnie as a potential threat) ?
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05-23-2012, 02:30 PM | #888 | |
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Don't worry about talking too much. Eventually people will began to see how you play and you won't get lynched for it. Every game some villager is going to vote poorly or say something that someone doesn't like and get lynched for it. It is why werewolf is so much fun |
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05-23-2012, 02:34 PM | #889 | |
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If they came out today, they would still be a villager. Suppose it's a question of if they'd rather make a sacrifice to help the team they started the game with, or stay quiet with the knowledge that they are likely being forced to switch teams soon. |
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05-23-2012, 02:35 PM | #890 | |
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The main thing with getting votes is that you are basically being forced to explain yourself. We want to hear what you say, because tone and reasoning is a part of how you analyze people in the game, just as their votes are. |
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05-23-2012, 02:40 PM | #891 |
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I'm feeling about the same way, I figure its just a thing veterans are conditioned to look for in what would normally be a wolf. They are used to veteran wolf behavior, so when a new villager comes in and unintentionally exhibits that behavior, they catch the veteran eyes.
That's what I assume happened with LSG being so aggressive going after me yesterday, but I had no idea what part of what I was saying was giving her that impression. As I learn, I do also find myself noticing slight differences in peoples styles, so eventually I hope to be able to pick up on those nuances as well. Right now, from where I am looking at things everything is still a bit of a crapshoot. I am thinking maybe Chief is Ronnie now, which would apparently be a great role to put him in. I still don;t know what to think about chubby either, and I am new like britrock, so making a read on him is something I don't feel great about right now. I think we both have said and done things at points that made us look suspicious to someone or another.. But I don;t know how much stock to put in that yet. With bhlloy revealed, LSG out, and chubby and Chief left for me to be wary of, I am trying to decide between those 2. Autumn is also intriguing as a possible seer, IMO.
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05-23-2012, 02:42 PM | #892 |
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Haha.. Wow I am retarded. Autumn is out. No wonder he hasn't said much.
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05-23-2012, 02:43 PM | #893 |
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Never mind the seer stuff then, I am just trying to pick from Chief and Chubby, thinking one is a wolf and one is Ronnie.
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05-23-2012, 02:44 PM | #894 |
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I didn't expect bhlloy to move to Chubby yesterday, I'll say that, but I figured bhlloy was possibility in a position to indicate to us something about Chubby by moving his vote there. I didn't have a feel on Chubby one way or the other. But at that point, there wasn't much momentum on Julio as Ronnie, so I thought the best play was to move to Chubby with bhlloy in order to highlight that move (especially because, like myself, bhlloy moved off Julio to vote Chubby).
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05-23-2012, 02:45 PM | #895 |
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Back in a couple hours, hopefully.
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05-23-2012, 02:51 PM | #896 |
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britrock - there was nothing special behind my move to chubby yesterday over GE. I have no special insight other than I thought it would be a better move. In hindsight that obviously doesn't appear To have been the case. Follow my lead at your peril
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05-23-2012, 03:28 PM | #897 |
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I agree that I doubt the seer will out themselves since it then makes them a target. bhlloy is obviously toast if he isn't NKd tonight.
let's try vote CF |
05-23-2012, 04:44 PM | #898 | |
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The whole "do i want to live longer" or "do i want the village to have a better chance of winning" argument is something a seer has to deal with in every game. But never is it so clear cut as this. Outing themselves makes them a NK target but if they don't out themselves they are basically helping the wolves while still a villager. What an interesting predicament. Either they reveal and get lynched today/tomorrow or they don't reveal and we seethe at them throughout and after the game. |
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05-23-2012, 04:45 PM | #899 |
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This whole debate is pretty distracting from voting for people based on past days. Do we have an updated vote count?
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05-23-2012, 04:45 PM | #900 |
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I'm not sure what time I'll get home. Probably something like 9:30, but not positive .. will try and see what's going on then.
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