WW Small Game IX- The Cold War !! game over CIA win

[saldana]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Is it conceivable to anybody that molson is kgb?

what?

he just duked ardent...how could he possibly still be kgb?


shouldnt you be going out for vodka with your homies from Lefortovo?

[MollyMurphy]

Originally Posted by Lathum

The Captain- Once per game you can change the outcome of a lynch vote and order someone else to be lynched.

I don't think it is a high likelihood that he is a wolf, but like the negotiator, it does not state this one way or another. Again, another role I would assume is good, but it is really not confirmed anywhere.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Is it conceivable to anybody that molson is kgb?

lol...

let me think about it for a sec...


no

[Alan T]

So just out of curiosity.. will people vote with me tommorrow maybe?

Im not sure what else to do or tell you to let you know that I think Cronin is evil.

[Alan T]

(Off Topic)

Just for those who don't always keep up with the general disccusions forum.. a little reason why I wasn't around much this weekend for this game. Its good news.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=57297

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't trust Ardent this game, but I do trust Saldana.

[Alan T]

Good news, got my night PM.. they chose to attack me.
Better news, I kept my body armor. I never did really give it to Saldana.

[Lathum]

You all gather in the messhall and are elated that you are all present and accounted for.

Deadline 9:00 PM

[Alan T]

Hmm let me think about who to vote for today.

[Alan T]

Ok done thinking

Vote St.Cronin

[Alan T]

So this is who is left:

1. AlanT
8. St Cronin
9. Molson
13. Molly Murphy
15. Saldana

Molson is the duke, Saldana I pretty much trust. Especially after being attacked last night, Saldana knew that he never received the vest from me. Unless its the ultimate attempt to fake me out, I assume they didn't waste an evening kill in end game just to try to make me feel dumb.

That leaves.. Cronin and Molly. I assume now both are wolves. If they aren't both wolves then only one of the two are, and we still have the numbers to take them out.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Saldana I pretty much trust. Especially after being attacked last night, Saldana knew that he never received the vest from me. Unless its the ultimate attempt to fake me out, I assume they didn't waste an evening kill in end game just to try to make me feel dumb.

I buy that.

VOTE ST. CRONIN

[molson]

Originally Posted by Alan T

So this is who is left:


Molson is the duke, Saldana I pretty much trust. Especially after being attacked last night, Saldana knew that he never received the vest from me. Unless its the ultimate attempt to fake me out, I assume they didn't waste an evening kill in end game just to try to make me feel dumb.

Though on the other hand, though Saldana knows he never got the vest from you, if was evil, he could have assumed that you gave it to me.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by molson

Though on the other hand, though Saldana knows he never got the vest from you, if was evil, he could have assumed that you gave it to me.

Possible, but then thats two assumptions

1) the negotiator was evil
2) he assumed I gave you the vest.

If Saldana was bad, then it would mean one of Cronin/Molly was good.. and that would have been the safe kill last night to tie it 2-2 and let the wolves win.

I don't see that happened and I don't see Saldana being bad and trying to kill me knowing i had the vest either when a night kill wins the game for them at 2-2 (if there are two wolves left).

I basically think if there are two wolves left its cronin & Molly. If only 1 wolf left, then one of the two probably.

[Alan T]

Wow, pretty slow day.

[Poli]

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[Lathum]

current vote count

St.Cronin 2 ( alanT, Molson)

[molson]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Wow, pretty slow day.

Odd game - it seemed everything happened int he middle in terms of roles/items, etc. It feels like there isn't much left to analyze.

Trying a nightkill with Alan last night seems strange at first, but I guess they figured that you were going to vote for St. Cronin no matter what, and there's a chance I would have voted for MollyMurphy. So maybe she's not a spy after all. Looking back at the voting though, it just seems like every one of her votes was "hidden", but we'll see.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by molson

Odd game - it seemed everything happened int he middle in terms of roles/items, etc. It feels like there isn't much left to analyze.

Trying a nightkill with Alan last night seems strange at first, but I guess they figured that you were going to vote for St. Cronin no matter what, and there's a chance I would have voted for MollyMurphy. So maybe she's not a spy after all. Looking back at the voting though, it just seems like every one of her votes was "hidden", but we'll see.

Well I was hoping that my playing the vest movement subtly but with enough hints out there would trap them into attacking me. I didn't want to be too obvious about it. I guess we'll find out in the next day or two if I really was that smart, or if they were playing me into a trap here.

[MollyMurphy]

Wow, it has been a super slow day. I just had no time at all today to follow along at work.

[MollyMurphy]

Originally Posted by molson

Odd game - it seemed everything happened int he middle in terms of roles/items, etc. It feels like there isn't much left to analyze.

Trying a nightkill with Alan last night seems strange at first, but I guess they figured that you were going to vote for St. Cronin no matter what, and there's a chance I would have voted for MollyMurphy. So maybe she's not a spy after all. Looking back at the voting though, it just seems like every one of her votes was "hidden", but we'll see.

I really don't know what a "hidden" vote is. I have been very transparent about my work schedule which has caused me to either vote super early or super late. I am not KGB which leads me to believe that one of the roles so called "good" roles are not. Again, it never states in the rules that they are CIA or KGB.

[MollyMurphy]

Well, I have suspected Cronin for a couple days now....Therefore, he is my lead suspect as well....with you on this one Alan.

Vote Cronin

[saldana]

vote cronin

[saldana]

sorry for being awol all day. i was in the car pretty much the whole day.

alan, i should hope that i secured your trust by not announcing that i didnt get the body armor, and, knowing that you still had it, it would have been pretty idiotic for me to attack you last night

this vote was pretty much a no brainer at this point in the game

[MollyMurphy]

Can anyone tell me again why Alan is so trusted? I have been reading through the thread, and I am just not seeing it. All I have seen so far is that he protected the Negotiator which may or may not be CIA or KGB. Again, someone said that wolves do not typically need negotiators, but I don't recall anyone confirming that is true.

I am not making accusations at this point, just asking the question.

[molson]

Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

Can anyone tell me again why Alan is so trusted? I have been reading through the thread, and I am just not seeing it. All I have seen so far is that he protected the Negotiator which may or may not be CIA or KGB. Again, someone said that wolves do not typically need negotiators, but I don't recall anyone confirming that is true.

I am not making accusations at this point, just asking the question.

He led a vote for path a few days ago, based on a lie detector that found. It would be pretty insane for a wolf to kill another wolf when they had all the momentum, just in the name of strategy.

I brought up the remote possibility of some master plan, and got my head chewed off for 2 pages.

[MollyMurphy]

Originally Posted by molson

He led a vote for path a few days ago, based on a lie detector that found. It would be pretty insane for a wolf to kill another wolf when they had all the momentum, just in the name of strategy.

I brought up the remote possibility of some master plan, and got my head chewed off for 2 pages.

Oh yeah....duh. I guess I skimmed too fast. I always seem to get people confused. Thanks for the clarification. Agree, not likely that he strung up his own.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

Can anyone tell me again why Alan is so trusted? I have been reading through the thread, and I am just not seeing it. All I have seen so far is that he protected the Negotiator which may or may not be CIA or KGB. Again, someone said that wolves do not typically need negotiators, but I don't recall anyone confirming that is true.

I am not making accusations at this point, just asking the question.

I dunno.. lets see.. I handed the villagers the only wolf we have lynched so far. I was bloody attacked last night, and today we'll be lynching your wolf friend Cronin.

So you are right, no one can ever be 100% trusted, but I have a hunch that I've pretty much done more right things this game than most others so far

[saldana]

i guess leading a lynch vote isnt what it used to be alan. ( to MM)

[MollyMurphy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I dunno.. lets see.. I handed the villagers the only wolf we have lynched so far. I was bloody attacked last night, and today we'll be lynching your wolf friend Cronin.

So you are right, no one can ever be 100% trusted, but I have a hunch that I've pretty much done more right things this game than most others so far

Already said sorry. Got it! Not good at remembering what everyone has done and not patient enough to read through everyday. Agree, you are 99% trusted.

[Lathum]

After the quietist day you can all remember the late tide turns to Cronin. With almost no resistance he walks to the front to accept his fate. Perhaps he is tired of living a lie?

The commanding officer puts a gun to Cronins head and one shot ends it all. A search of Cronins room reveals empty vodka bottles and pictures of Stalin. He was KGB.

Night phase has begun. Deadline 9:00 AM

[Alan T]

I would like to say that I was shocked. Shocked I tell you.

[Alan T]

And with this, I suppose I shall die tonight. I assume that Sal and Molson can take it from here

[saldana]

sorry we didnt listen to you sooner alan, you are definitely the mvp of this one if we manage to pull it out.

[Poli]

...

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Here's my opinion, others may disagree:

1. AlanT better wolf than villager
2. Dodgerchick not sure
3. NTNDeacon much better as a wolf
4. Chief Rum better as a villager
5. Path12 not sure
6. Daddytorgo better as a wolf
7. ImTheCrew not sure
8. St Cronin
9. Molson not sure
10. beargrowlz not sure
11. bulletsponge not sure
12. Ardent not sure - likely better as a wolf
13. Molly Murphy not sure
14. Narcizo not sure
15. Saldana better as a wolf

I am a man on a mission!

[DaddyTorgo]

sorry I died earlier guys. I woulda made this much easier if I were alive.

[Lathum]

You all wake up hoping for the best. You all go to the messhall where ou can fit at one table. To bad one of you is missing. You rush to AlanT's room and discover he has been killed in the night. Apparently your mission is not over.

Day Phase has begun. Deadline 9:00 PM

[molson]

I guess we'll know soon enough whether Alan was right about Saldana.

VOTE MOLLYMURPHY

[Poli]

(I'm beating Alan up in CIA heaven. The bastage.)

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

(I'm beating Alan up in CIA heaven. The bastage.)

I never voted for you!

[Poli]

(Still beating you up for never trusting me!)

[saldana]

vote mollymurphy

[saldana]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

(Still beating you up for never trusting me!)

cant wait to see what you do to molson ....or me for that matter

[DaddyTorgo]

can we get nightfall? oh I guess not, cuz molly ain't around.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by saldana

cant wait to see what you do to molson ....or me for that matter

(you not so much, though you threw my name out there for the duking...molson, getting beat up as well. I still can't fathom HOW I wasn't as trusted as Alan, I felt like I was playing with blade. [no offense, blade])

[MollyMurphy]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

can we get nightfall? oh I guess not, cuz molly ain't around.

Fine with me. Lathum just explained to me what that is. I am ok w/ it.

[Lathum]

The remaining few of you decide you have waited long enough for justice to be served. Molson and Saldana determine MollyMurphy must be the final KGB agent. The 2 turn on her but she won't go without a fight. She admirably fights off the two men as each looks for the death blow, MollyMurphy is desparate for her life, finally she lands a crushing blow to Molsons temple and he falls to the ground in a heap, just as she turns to take on Saldana he reaches for his service revolver and with a quick shot ends her life and eliminates the KGB agent causing their mission to fail...

[saldana]

MM...you have to cast a vote for someone, then post "nightfall"

[Lathum]

thanks for playing everyone, I hope you enjoyed it. Feel free to post any questions you may have.