WW Dukes Versus Hunters (GAME OVER!!--See Post #1387) - Page 18

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 12:45 PM

It's kinda scary how many dukes are left, honestly

Chief Rum · 04-23-2015, 12:50 PM

Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #851)

EagleFan (3)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844)
fontisian (3)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807)

Yet to Vote: timmae, Raven, EagleFan, britrock88, Narcizo, MrBug708

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Is my math off? I didn't deduct 1 for JAG/Zinto because they didn't use their kill, but out of the 5 living hunters there should be up to 3 kills left because EF used his and the blank is still out there.

The math is probably fine, I just noticed he wasn't on the list.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

The math is probably fine, I just noticed he wasn't on the list.

yeah in that respect Zinto isn't on the list either, I put vaimes down there as -1 because he actually used his kill but he isn't alive either.. so it's moot.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 12:54 PM

This seems like it could be an interesting vote.. which is better than yesterday

Grover · 04-23-2015, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

And it also prevents any other hunters from taking a shot today.

Excellent addition. That had slipped my mind. But EF's play completely blocks font from taking a shot at someone until tomorrow at the earliest.

EagleFan · 04-23-2015, 01:10 PM

We probably want a third option. Ideas?

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 01:11 PM

Which, since I was her target, I know to be a pro-village move. I think it's possible EF's story is the truth, he hasn't been following along as closely and maybe didn't buy the blocked kill story, which many of us didn't at first. Unfortunately, killing someone it seems the wolves are also trying to kill doesn't give you a great look.

timmae · 04-23-2015, 01:12 PM

Vaimes took a shot to clear possible villagers. EF took a shot on a known duke which cost us a villager.

vote Eaglefan

EagleFan · 04-23-2015, 01:14 PM

Known duke does not equal known villager.

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

We probably want a third option. Ideas?

My suspect list right now goes, outside of Font and EF, from most suspicious to least:

Timmae
Raven
cheekimonk
Grover

Grover · 04-23-2015, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

We probably want a third option. Ideas?

Self preservation much?

Raven · 04-23-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

So Martin is def not the Cultist, since he duked, and Cultist does not have that ability.

Since the bg is a village role - wolves would not target wolf Martin in hopes that bg would be guarding him.

This means Martin is confirmed village, and isn't lying about being protected last night. Also means Cultist was not converted last night.

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Or, you know, he could just be making up the story.

He was clearly not the Cultist because he Duked.
If he was a wolf, he would not have been targeted by wolves, so bg would not have saved him.

If he lied, he is a wolf. A scan would have revealed it, unless he was Cunning. So the only reason to lie would be if he was Cunning.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

We probably want a third option. Ideas?

Maybe you're a disengaged/busy villager, it happens to the best of us, but you know that we want YOU to give us ideas, so that people can look at your reasoning, etc.

EagleFan · 04-23-2015, 01:32 PM

I gave reasoning and was shouted down. Right about now I've got nothing. I trust only Autumn so far.

Don't turn your back on font.

Narcizo · 04-23-2015, 01:32 PM

I hate this game. What a waste of a lot of my day.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

I hate this game. What a waste of a lot of my day.

Life's too short to worry about it

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Don't turn your back on font.

Not planning on it

Grover · 04-23-2015, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I hate this game. What a waste of a lot of my day.

Shut up, you love it.

MrBug708 · 04-23-2015, 01:44 PM

vote EF

Pretty much guessed MartinD was a villager but it was my first time playing with him and didn't think he was bold enough to be a wolf.

cheekimonk · 04-23-2015, 01:48 PM

I think I'm staying where I am. I could go with EF, but haven't been convinced to come off font, either. The duke/hunter analysis above makes me think there's going to be a duke today in any case.

Narcizo · 04-23-2015, 01:52 PM

Hats off to the bodyguard. Dunno how you called that. I really don't want to vote or even think about this. For what its worth (very little) I think I believe Eagle. I don't see why a wolf-Eagle takes that shot. Why draw attention to himself? I can see village-Wolf doing it. Then again I couldn't see village-Martin duking to Vaimes. So what do I know? Also if the wolves think Martin was the bodyguard why didn't they just night kill him again? Absolutely no reason for them to expose themselves just to take him out.

Reasons why wolves tried to kill Martin
a) Prove his innocence so wolf-font doesn't have to be killed
b) Assuming he was going to duke to a wolf, thus clearing himself. Probably wolf-Autumn.
c) weird stuff that apparently the bodyguard has insight into but I don't.

Chief Rum · 04-23-2015, 01:59 PM

Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #871)

EagleFan (5)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844), timmae (859), MrBug708 (870)
fontisian (3)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807)

Yet to Vote: Raven, EagleFan, britrock88, Narcizo

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 02:04 PM

I'm not totally thrilled at the group of people voting for EF with me at the moment..

Any thoughts, brit/raven?

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 02:06 PM

The most obvious answer just hit me in the face. Wolves kill Martin because they figure he's the least likely to be protected by the bodyguard. We're having to stretch ourselves so hard to figure out why he would be killed ... maybe that's why he was killed.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 02:07 PM

Interesting take, Autumn

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Reasons why wolves tried to kill Martin
a) Prove his innocence so wolf-font doesn't have to be killed
b) Assuming he was going to duke to a wolf, thus clearing himself. Probably wolf-Autumn.
c) weird stuff that apparently the bodyguard has insight into but I don't.

I would add

D) trying to hit the cultist, suggesting a wolf-font.
E) Trying to avoid the bodyguard.
F) Thinking he was seer, suggesting a villager-font.

MrBug708 · 04-23-2015, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Hats off to the bodyguard. Dunno how you called that. I really don't want to vote or even think about this. For what its worth (very little) I think I believe Eagle. I don't see why a wolf-Eagle takes that shot. Why draw attention to himself? I can see village-Wolf doing it. Then again I couldn't see village-Martin duking to Vaimes. So what do I know? Also if the wolves think Martin was the bodyguard why didn't they just night kill him again? Absolutely no reason for them to expose themselves just to take him out.

Reasons why wolves tried to kill Martin
a) Prove his innocence so wolf-font doesn't have to be killed
b) Assuming he was going to duke to a wolf, thus clearing himself. Probably wolf-Autumn.
c) weird stuff that apparently the bodyguard has insight into but I don't.

I could go along with your area sons but I want to hear more explanation from EF. Maybe he'd just trying to kill off Dukes?

Grover · 04-23-2015, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I could go along with your area sons but I want to hear more explanation from EF. Maybe he'd just trying to kill off Dukes?

You want to hear more from EF on this, but why are you giving him a potential explanation in the process?

MrBug708 · 04-23-2015, 02:17 PM

Seems very antivillager then

Raven · 04-23-2015, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'm not totally thrilled at the group of people voting for EF with me at the moment..

Any thoughts, brit/raven?

I'm still processing all this. Looking for some motive.
I realize I need to move on this quickly, because time is ticking.

I don't know why EF would target Martin, when he was arguing with font directly. He could have easily realized that Martin was likely not a wolf based on the previous NK actions. I have pretty much spelled out why Martin was most likely not a wolf.

Only thing I can come up with is that EF targeted a known Duke so he wouldn't kill himself if targeting a hunter. (Which others are also saying). But that of course puts EF in the spotlight. IF EF was a wolf, only reason he would be OK with spotlighting himself is if he was Brutal? Which means wolves would (potentially) get 3 kills today (Martin, EF's Brutal kill at lynch, and a NK).

Chief Rum · 04-23-2015, 02:38 PM

Third day of this, so you all should be used to this now... I am headed to lunch! Be back in an hour.

Raven · 04-23-2015, 02:44 PM

Thinking about it some more, EF being Brutal doesn't make sense to me.
Assume we started with 3 wolves.

That means 3 wolves and 9 villagers remain.
If EF was brutal, it seems too early to spotlight himself.
Otherwise he gets possibly lynched and takes out someone with him, then wolves NK tonight. (All this assuming no Dukes). That then leaves 2 wolves and 7 villagers.

Just seems too early for that play to be used by the Brutal.

EagleFan · 04-23-2015, 03:01 PM

I pretty much stated my reasons. Thought I was going to look really good with that move but instead I put as all further behind the eightball. I put the request in last night and thought I would see good news this morning.

It was a screw up, big time.

I will try to get it on from my laptop if I can.

Narcizo · 04-23-2015, 03:15 PM

So we're currently 8:3:1 I guess. If we miss then we're probably 6:3:1 unless we have MVB evah. If the wolves have all their powers left we're boned. That alone would explain Eagle taking the kill. Maybe they're playing endgame already. As the village is whittled away there's increasingly more chance of the wolves getting items.

I can't see a third candidate emerging. Dunno who it would be anyway. If we lynch village then the seer and bodyguard probably should reveal tomorrow, if they're still alive. And the vote should be left in the hands of any cleared that emerge. If the seer is a hunter he might want to make his best shot as early as possible.

Of the two on the table I'll

vote fontisian

britrock88 · 04-23-2015, 03:27 PM

Sorry to be totally absent--been swamped at work.

Nothing leaps to mind to explain EF's shot at Martin other than the explanation he gave us--which is that he was just reading Martin as bad and wanted to take his chance. The time lag between order and execution may mean that information we're taking for granted was not something EF had to rely upon in deciding to use his shot. Not that I mean any of this to be exonerating.

At this point, our track record with hunters' shots makes me wary of our continued use of them. Font is, for her part, on the warpath to shoot Autumn. I'm not terribly fond of the idea.

vote Fontisian

Shoveler · 04-23-2015, 03:30 PM

that puts us at 5/5.. with two votes remaining

Raven · 04-23-2015, 03:34 PM

EF and I are the two remaining votes then...

Raven · 04-23-2015, 03:35 PM

And since EF will def vote font and if I vote EF then I create a tie. So my only vote (unless someone switches), will be to vote font.

Raven · 04-23-2015, 03:45 PM

I am assuming the Cultist knows who the wolves are?

If I vote Font, and font ends up Wolf...
Grover, timmae, The Jackal - are the wolves and cultist.
MrBug is the only other possibility, but he voted font on day1.

If EF is a wolf.
The wolf/cultist possibilities are Shoveler, cheeki, Autum, britrock, Narcizo.

Since EF will be voting font, my hands are tied...
vote fontisian

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 03:47 PM

Don't discount the possibility of wolves voting wolves, Raven, either when it doesn't matter or when it's a runaway. It's a common strategy to earn trust later. That's actually why I suspected JAG early on day one because I thought he might have been putting a vote on a possible wolf cheekimonk only to take it off later.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 03:49 PM

Especially when the odds of a duke happening are pretty high no matter what .. that's why I was saying on D1 that vote analysis won't be as useful this game.

Raven · 04-23-2015, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Don't discount the possibility of wolves voting wolves, Raven, either when it doesn't matter or when it's a runaway. It's a common strategy to earn trust later. That's actually why I suspected JAG early on day one because I thought he might have been putting a vote on a possible wolf cheekimonk only to take it off later.

I'm not including runaways, so don't think that applies here.

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven

I'm not including runaways, so don't think that applies here.

Yeah sorry, I just meant generally.

Chief Rum · 04-23-2015, 03:55 PM

I'm back. Doing a vote tally.

britrock88 · 04-23-2015, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Especially when the odds of a duke happening are pretty high no matter what .. that's why I was saying on D1 that vote analysis won't be as useful this game.

Circled back around. Yep, certainly can't rule this out.

Autumn · 04-23-2015, 03:55 PM

No EF vote. That bodes well that he is probably just a villager.

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 03:58 PM

I mean, if we're in a tie, I generally can't in good conscience support that

The Jackal · 04-23-2015, 03:59 PM

Seems like it's 6-5 for font

Chief Rum · 04-23-2015, 03:59 PM

Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #895)

fontisian (6)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807), Narcizo (885), britrock88 (886), Raven (890)
EagleFan (5)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844), timmae (859), MrBug708 (870)

Yet to Vote: EagleFan

04-23-2015, 12:50 PM	#852
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #851) EagleFan (3)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844) fontisian (3)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807) Yet to Vote: timmae, Raven, EagleFan, britrock88, Narcizo, MrBug708 __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-23-2015, 01:10 PM	#857
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	We probably want a third option. Ideas? __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-23-2015, 01:12 PM	#859
timmae College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago	Vaimes took a shot to clear possible villagers. EF took a shot on a known duke which cost us a villager. vote Eaglefan __________________ Interactive OOTP 15 Dynasty (Single Season) CHAMPION!! Oh yeah... Happy New York Day everyone!

04-23-2015, 01:14 PM	#860
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Known duke does not equal known villager. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-23-2015, 01:32 PM	#865
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I gave reasoning and was shouted down. Right about now I've got nothing. I trust only Autumn so far. Don't turn your back on font. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-23-2015, 12:45 PM	#851
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	It's kinda scary how many dukes are left, honestly

04-23-2015, 12:54 PM	#855
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	This seems like it could be an interesting vote.. which is better than yesterday

04-23-2015, 01:11 PM	#858
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Which, since I was her target, I know to be a pro-village move. I think it's possible EF's story is the truth, he hasn't been following along as closely and maybe didn't buy the blocked kill story, which many of us didn't at first. Unfortunately, killing someone it seems the wolves are also trying to kill doesn't give you a great look.

04-23-2015, 01:32 PM	#866
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I hate this game. What a waste of a lot of my day.

04-23-2015, 01:44 PM	#870
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	vote EF Pretty much guessed MartinD was a villager but it was my first time playing with him and didn't think he was bold enough to be a wolf.

04-23-2015, 01:48 PM	#871
cheekimonk High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Nashville	I think I'm staying where I am. I could go with EF, but haven't been convinced to come off font, either. The duke/hunter analysis above makes me think there's going to be a duke today in any case.

04-23-2015, 01:52 PM	#872
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Hats off to the bodyguard. Dunno how you called that. I really don't want to vote or even think about this. For what its worth (very little) I think I believe Eagle. I don't see why a wolf-Eagle takes that shot. Why draw attention to himself? I can see village-Wolf doing it. Then again I couldn't see village-Martin duking to Vaimes. So what do I know? Also if the wolves think Martin was the bodyguard why didn't they just night kill him again? Absolutely no reason for them to expose themselves just to take him out. Reasons why wolves tried to kill Martin a) Prove his innocence so wolf-font doesn't have to be killed b) Assuming he was going to duke to a wolf, thus clearing himself. Probably wolf-Autumn. c) weird stuff that apparently the bodyguard has insight into but I don't.

04-23-2015, 01:59 PM	#873
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #871) EagleFan (5)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844), timmae (859), MrBug708 (870) fontisian (3)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807) Yet to Vote: Raven, EagleFan, britrock88, Narcizo __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-23-2015, 02:04 PM	#874
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm not totally thrilled at the group of people voting for EF with me at the moment.. Any thoughts, brit/raven?

04-23-2015, 02:06 PM	#875
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	The most obvious answer just hit me in the face. Wolves kill Martin because they figure he's the least likely to be protected by the bodyguard. We're having to stretch ourselves so hard to figure out why he would be killed ... maybe that's why he was killed.

04-23-2015, 02:07 PM	#876
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Interesting take, Autumn

04-23-2015, 02:17 PM	#880
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Seems very antivillager then

04-23-2015, 02:38 PM	#882
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Third day of this, so you all should be used to this now... I am headed to lunch! Be back in an hour. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-23-2015, 02:44 PM	#883
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	Thinking about it some more, EF being Brutal doesn't make sense to me. Assume we started with 3 wolves. That means 3 wolves and 9 villagers remain. If EF was brutal, it seems too early to spotlight himself. Otherwise he gets possibly lynched and takes out someone with him, then wolves NK tonight. (All this assuming no Dukes). That then leaves 2 wolves and 7 villagers. Just seems too early for that play to be used by the Brutal.

04-23-2015, 03:01 PM	#884
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I pretty much stated my reasons. Thought I was going to look really good with that move but instead I put as all further behind the eightball. I put the request in last night and thought I would see good news this morning. It was a screw up, big time. I will try to get it on from my laptop if I can. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

04-23-2015, 03:15 PM	#885
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	So we're currently 8:3:1 I guess. If we miss then we're probably 6:3:1 unless we have MVB evah. If the wolves have all their powers left we're boned. That alone would explain Eagle taking the kill. Maybe they're playing endgame already. As the village is whittled away there's increasingly more chance of the wolves getting items. I can't see a third candidate emerging. Dunno who it would be anyway. If we lynch village then the seer and bodyguard probably should reveal tomorrow, if they're still alive. And the vote should be left in the hands of any cleared that emerge. If the seer is a hunter he might want to make his best shot as early as possible. Of the two on the table I'll vote fontisian

04-23-2015, 03:27 PM	#886
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Sorry to be totally absent--been swamped at work. Nothing leaps to mind to explain EF's shot at Martin other than the explanation he gave us--which is that he was just reading Martin as bad and wanted to take his chance. The time lag between order and execution may mean that information we're taking for granted was not something EF had to rely upon in deciding to use his shot. Not that I mean any of this to be exonerating. At this point, our track record with hunters' shots makes me wary of our continued use of them. Font is, for her part, on the warpath to shoot Autumn. I'm not terribly fond of the idea. vote Fontisian

04-23-2015, 03:30 PM	#887
Shoveler High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central Minnesota	that puts us at 5/5.. with two votes remaining

04-23-2015, 03:34 PM	#888
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	EF and I are the two remaining votes then...

04-23-2015, 03:35 PM	#889
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	And since EF will def vote font and if I vote EF then I create a tie. So my only vote (unless someone switches), will be to vote font.

04-23-2015, 03:45 PM	#890
Raven College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD	I am assuming the Cultist knows who the wolves are? If I vote Font, and font ends up Wolf... Grover, timmae, The Jackal - are the wolves and cultist. MrBug is the only other possibility, but he voted font on day1. If EF is a wolf. The wolf/cultist possibilities are Shoveler, cheeki, Autum, britrock, Narcizo. Since EF will be voting font, my hands are tied... vote fontisian

04-23-2015, 03:47 PM	#891
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Don't discount the possibility of wolves voting wolves, Raven, either when it doesn't matter or when it's a runaway. It's a common strategy to earn trust later. That's actually why I suspected JAG early on day one because I thought he might have been putting a vote on a possible wolf cheekimonk only to take it off later.

04-23-2015, 03:49 PM	#892
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Especially when the odds of a duke happening are pretty high no matter what .. that's why I was saying on D1 that vote analysis won't be as useful this game.

04-23-2015, 03:55 PM	#895
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I'm back. Doing a vote tally. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-23-2015, 03:55 PM	#897
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	No EF vote. That bodes well that he is probably just a villager.

04-23-2015, 03:58 PM	#898
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I mean, if we're in a tie, I generally can't in good conscience support that

04-23-2015, 03:59 PM	#899
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Seems like it's 6-5 for font

04-23-2015, 03:59 PM	#900
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #895) fontisian (6)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807), Narcizo (885), britrock88 (886), Raven (890) EagleFan (5)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844), timmae (859), MrBug708 (870) Yet to Vote: EagleFan __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

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