Werewolf CXXXI: Lone Wolf - Against the Darklords GAME OVER, EVERYBODY WINS - Page 18

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 01:08 AM

not totally but in my eyes it pushes him up on the trust list especially with his tracking response. Granted Jag did say that the "cleared" is better trusted then the "seer" in cases like this. But for today, I trust mauboy totally.

Lathum · 05-05-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Chief has been mostly a late night kind of poster. He must be at the club

lol

MrBug708 · 05-05-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Okay some analysis...

Zinto - I still think it's possible that there was a wolf on DT that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and couldn't do anything about it. His responses early on seemed weird so I'm still thinking this is a possibility.

MrBug/Chief - You guys probably think I'm crazy, but I don't trust my own scan. The following two scenarios are very possible:
If Chief is wolf and Bug is villager: This could make sense. Chief would have to have a cunning power where he scans as good which is megaeasy to have. Abe could have given the wolves that anyway if Chief was like the leader or something with a special power. So Chief scanning good to me says to me that Bug also scanned chief and got the same Villager result.
If Bug is wolf and Chief is villager: If Chief really is villager, then my scan was genuine with no wolf power funny business. Bug then revealed for no reason and didn't even say who he was scanning....so why reveal? Just to gain trust. But he didn't really need to do that. So that's why that might be a villager move. But wolves could do that too. So if Bug is a wolf, he could just say he scanned Chief just to mimmick what I said as I alraedy told him the result. Very conveniently.
Both?: Well sure if one could be true, both could be true.
Both villager? Well yeah. That would mean my scan was legit, Bug's scan was legit (and prematurely ...um...spoken, and Chief...well is just weird.
I just have a hunch there's a wolf in there.

DV - I forgot he was playing. Only a very tiny chance here. Day one kinda clears him.

Narcizo - Keeps his head down and analyzes as he usually does. But he does that a lot. Don't know about his wolfy like play. Analysis is always a good place to hide a wolf.

mckerney - No idea. Since he got into it with Chief day one, this could actually be something. Did Chief find a wolf? Was mckerney and DT really a wolf two-pack (Tupac)? Biggest unknown here.

bhlloy - I didn't think all 3 of the bhlloy/packer/dward quiet groups were wolves. I thought one or two. Well we've got those now. And The past couple days he has seemed pretty good. Or good at hiding it.

CrimsonFox - Sure lynch me. I've done the scan I wanted. Didn't expect to live this long and today I was really trying to avoid getting nightkilled tonight so I could scan mauboy. I did not vote packer today as I wanted to see who would and how fast. Wolves always jump on the lynch train right after a scan reveal. So I had no reason to. Plus it gets the wolves off my ass for a night at least. So I humbly sacrifice myself for the good of the Kai so you can verify any story I've told as well as my behavior and votes. Packer caught me by surprise at the end. I did have a vote change ready, but then I got distracted by trying to find pillsbury doughboy videos.

Totally trust: Lathum, Hoops (perhaps foolishly), Mauboy, Jackal, JAG

I think that if you think one of Chief or myself is a wolf, then you would have to assume that the other would be.

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 01:09 AM

Not at all. Read it again.

MrBug708 · 05-05-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

not totally but in my eyes it pushes him up on the trust list especially with his tracking response. Granted Jag did say that the "cleared" is better trusted then the "seer" in cases like this. But for today, I trust mauboy totally.

Not saying you are wrong in your assumption, but knowing his skills and that he has tracking doesnt mean that much. Seems like with your concerns that you would have targeted me instead of Mauboy as that would have cleared me much more than Mauboy

MrBug708 · 05-05-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Not at all. Read it again.

I was speaking more towards Chief's last second reveal and my near instant response (along with you and...Danny?) Only way one of us could have been a wolf means the other would have known the plan to and follow through

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 01:41 AM

Nice going Jag and, well, everyone else. Wolves screwed that one up.

Vote PackerFanatic
Vote Nightfall

Voting patterns should actually be pretty interesting yesterday - despite the late runaway. Nightfall also fits in nicely with my packed work schedule today.

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 01:45 AM

Unfortunately there is some bad news - I have lickle woodland creatures and I sent them to check up on JAG. Once again my timezone issues have screwed with my role. I had a lot of suspicion about him but I thought his analysis is too good too waste by voting off so I wanted to be sure. I sent my order in and went to bed. Sorry guys. Guess whether he's KAI or not. Go on. Just guess.

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 01:49 AM

Now there's the Narcizo I know and love. I think you're Kai now.

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

You escort the refugees north along the road. The sun is beating down hard, and people haven;t many possessions. Some of your hunt and forage for food to give to the people. You go without food much of the day in order to help them.

Around mid-afternoon, you see another group of refugees added to you train from the west. More are seen coming in, as you discover more and more invasion points have occurred in Sommerlund.

At dinner time, you agree to split off, and again perform the ceremony. As before, the votes are very close, but the decision has been made, and Initiate Thomkal has been selected. Unlike last night, he makes no move to protect himself. As multiple Mindblasts from those of you that can use them pierce his mental defenses, you are able to completely erase his being. He is now a virtually brain dead person, who has to be led around and told to do things. You get him protection from one of the refugees. It is clear that he was a Kai Initiate, and not one of the Darklords.

Night Actions will be processed as soon as I can.

Is Abe being a smartass here?

I can't read yellow on white.

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I was speaking more towards Chief's last second reveal and my near instant response (along with you and...Danny?) Only way one of us could have been a wolf means the other would have known the plan to and follow through

oh that reveal. The metagame reveal. It wasn't me. It was you Danny and mckerney. And I really didn't remember who it was either. Never really wanted to bring it up again. Rereading that day after my revealed scan, your responses to me do sound legit, but you later said something else that made no sense. It might have just been a slip. I've said I distrust Chief more than you anyway. Mainly for his last second stuff that day with votes and all his weird claims.

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Or Mauboy was right and you are in his corner...

What did you mean by this, Bug?

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, fudge. Sorry Danny.

May still work out. Lots of vote effects in this game, too.

I still do not believe a word of this. When you vote last second to not realize that you may be changing something important. That is EXACTLY why you vote last second. To change something important. THis answer is just....just...

Chief Rum · 05-05-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Chief has been mostly a late night kind of poster. He must be at the club

Ass. About to head over there. lol

Chief Rum · 05-05-2011, 02:23 AM

VOTE PF
VOTE NIGHTFALL

Oh, and yer nuts, CF.

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Pretty sure that quickness of the comments after what Chief said would trump it. It would seem like a pretty big suicide move to have Chief "trick" us and have a wolf comment practically instantly after it was said. I could believe a later time would certainly make sense, but not right after unless Chief was about to die anyways, which he wasnt

This bothers be a little. Very accusatory about Chief and the innocence of those that suspect his statement was so false. And it was in response to this:

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Don't be so fast to announce everyone who said this to be villagers. Abe plain as day told us that villagers did not receive PMs so wolves could definitely KNOW to say that.

However, this does hurt Chief a bit and I do feel bad.

I never saw anything from Abe saying that villagers did not receive PMs. I've gone back and looked and looked. Granted, it all blends in. But is mauboy making stuff up here?

I think his scan was legit regardless and I don't see wolves wasting scans as a night action. I also don't see wolves outing the fact that they made a scan and received a track. Then again mauboy is chaotic. The most chaotic player I've ever played with, which is why I sixthsensed him. I just don't see him revealing all the stuff he did as a wolf. But please mau, where did you see that ?

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

VOTE PF
VOTE NIGHTFALL

Oh, and yer nuts, CF.

Yup bonkers. Craaaazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Now there's the Narcizo I know and love. I think you're Kai now.

Worst thing is, I was going to scan Mr Bug most of the day but decided knowing for sure about JAG was more important. Please no more seer roles for me.

Danny · 05-05-2011, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

At least you made it to Day 3 Danny.

Yeah, not too bad lol

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 03:26 AM

Here you go Crimson. #65

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

This question was asked a few times by pm, if you didn't get a PM from me last night, you are a Kai. I didn't send out pms at all except to the non-Kai since there are no roles. By not sending any pms, I also avoid the potential of the "Quote a Word from it" trick as well.

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 03:28 AM

Day One

11:07 #70 - Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (1)
11:22 #71 - Narcizo votes Darth Vilus (1)
11:33 #72 - JAG votes Dwardzala (1)
11:35 #73 - bhlloy votes mckerney (1)
12:34 #77 - Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (2)
12:39 #78 - Lathum votes DaddyTorgo (3)

13:11 #80 - Thomkal votes Narcizo (1)
13:47 #81 - CrimsonFox votes Chief Rum (1)
14:41 #84 - PackerFanatic votes mckerney (2)
15:09 #85 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (2)
16:03 #86 - Bug votes Darth Vilus (2)
16:45 #92 - Thomkal unvotes Narcizo (0)
16:45 #92 – Thomkal votes mckerney (3)
16:53 #93 - Chief Rum votes Darth Vilus (3)

17:27 #101 - mckerney votes Chief Rum (3)
17:37 #103 - JAG unvotes Dward (0)
17:37 #103 - JAG votes Darth Vilus (4)
17:55 #106 - dwardzala votes Chief Rum (4)
20:36 #117 - DaddyTorgo votes Darth Vilus (5)

21:41 #130 - Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (4)
21:52 #139 - Danny votes DaddyTorgo (5)
21:58 #148 - Mau votes Chief Rum (5)
21:59 #151 - Mau unvotes Chief Rum (4)
21:59 #151 – Mau votes DaddyTorgo (6)

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 03:30 AM

Meh! Missed Danny as blue, I've put Packer as red (call me a reckless daredevil if you will) and JAG as pale blue (ok he's not fully 100% cleared to the rest of you but to me he's like 99%).

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 03:33 AM

Day Two

10:39 #186 - Dwardzala votes Thomkal (1)
04:36 #253 - JAG votes Chief Rum (1)
04:50 #206 - CrimsonFox votes MrBug (1)
08:18 #207 - Narcizo votes MrBug (2)
10:44 #213 - PackerFanatic votes JAG (1)
11:08 #214 - Thomkal votes JAG (2)
12:00 #220 - Lathum votes CrimsonFox (1)

14:08 #236 - Bhlloy votes MrBug (3)
14:16 #239 - MrBug votes CrimsonFox (2)
14:18 #240 - Darth Vilus votes Chief Rum (2)
16:22 #253 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (3)
18:11 #259 - Zinto votes CrimsonFox (3)
18:33 #260 - danny votes Thomkal (2)
18:57 #266 - mauboy votes bhlloy (1)

19:40 #280 - Mauboy unvotes bhlloy (0)
19:40 #280 - mauboy votes thomkal (3)
20:58 #292 - hoops votes JAG (3)
20:59 #293 - mckerney votes Thomkal (4)
21:16 #301 - hoops unvotes JAG (2)

21:49 #319 - hoops votes MrBug (4)
21:49 #320 - Thomkal unvotes JAG (1)
21:49 #320 - Thomkal votes MrBug (5)
21:51 #324 - MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2)
21:51 #324 - MrBug votes Thomkal (5)

21:53 #330 - Zinto unvotes CrimsonFox (1)
21:53 #330 - Zinto votes Thomkal (6)
21:56 #340 - mckerney unvotes Thomkal (5)
21:56 #341 - Danny unvotes Thomkal (4)
21:56 #341 - Danny votes Zinto (1)
21:58 #347 - Danny unvotes Zinto (0)
21:58 #347 - Danny votes Thomkal (5)
21:59 #356 - Chief Rum votes Thomkal (6)

CrimsonFox · 05-05-2011, 03:58 AM

If you are going to put Chief in Blue you have to put Jackal in blue too. I would rather you didn't put anyone in blue unless they are dead and villagers.

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 04:02 AM

Day Three

03:44 #600 CrimsonFox votes Zinto (1)
03:50 #602 JAG votes dwardzala (1)
06:50 #620 Narcizo votes dwardzala (2)
09:24 #627 Danny votes bhlloy (1)
11:53 #630 Bhlloy votes Zinto (2)
13:53 #637 Jackal votes bhlloy (2)

14:52 #657 Mau votes Lathum (1)
17:57 #687 mckerney votes bhlloy (3)
18:38 #691 Zinto votes dwardzala (3)
18:50 #692 Hoops votes dwardzala (4)
19:49 #703 Packer votes Bhlloy (4)
19:50 #704 CrimsonFox unvotes zinto (1)
19:50 #704 CrimsonFox votes Lathum (2)
19:58 #703 Dwardzala votes Lathum (3)

20:10 #710 Bhlloy unvotes Zinto (0)
20:10 #710 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (5)
20:16 #717 Packer unvotes Bhlloy (6)
20:16 #717 Packer votes dwardzala (5)
20:16 #718 Lathum votes Zinto. Repeatedly.(1)

20:17 #719 JAG reveals Everyone and their dog, except Lathum and Packer vote Packer - can't be bothered following it. People who hadn't voted at this stage:
MrBug, Chief, DV

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

If you are going to put Chief in Blue you have to put Jackal in blue too. I would rather you didn't put anyone in blue unless they are dead and villagers.

I was kind of thinking that Chief having two independent clears was blue-worthy. But point taken, if there's a cunning role. I'll repost.

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 04:06 AM

Day One

11:07 #70 - Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (1)
11:22 #71 - Narcizo votes Darth Vilus (1)
11:33 #72 - JAG votes Dwardzala (1)
11:35 #73 - bhlloy votes mckerney (1)
12:34 #77 - Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (2)
12:39 #78 - Lathum votes DaddyTorgo (3)

13:11 #80 - Thomkal votes Narcizo (1)
13:47 #81 - CrimsonFox votes Chief Rum (1)
14:41 #84 - PackerFanatic votes mckerney (2)
15:09 #85 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (2)
16:03 #86 - Bug votes Darth Vilus (2)
16:45 #92 - Thomkal unvotes Narcizo (0)
16:45 #92 – Thomkal votes mckerney (3)
16:53 #93 - Chief Rum votes Darth Vilus (3)

17:27 #101 - mckerney votes Chief Rum (3)
17:37 #103 - JAGunvotes Dward (0)
17:37 #103 - JAG votes Darth Vilus (4)
17:55 #106 - dwardzala votes Chief Rum (4)
20:36 #117 - DaddyTorgo votes Darth Vilus (5)

21:41 #130 - Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (4)
21:52 #139 - Danny votes DaddyTorgo (5)
21:58 #148 - Mau votes Chief Rum (5)
21:59 #151 - Mau unvotes Chief Rum (4)
21:59 #151 – Mau votes DaddyTorgo (6)

Day Two

10:39 #186 - Dwardzala votes Thomkal (1)
04:36 #253 - JAG votes Chief Rum (1)
04:50 #206 - CrimsonFox votes MrBug (1)
08:18 #207 - Narcizo votes MrBug (2)
10:44 #213 - PackerFanatic votes JAG (1)
11:08 #214 - Thomkal votes JAG (2)
12:00 #220 - Lathum votes CrimsonFox (1)

14:08 #236 - Bhlloy votes MrBug (3)
14:16 #239 - MrBug votes CrimsonFox (2)
14:18 #240 - Darth Vilus votes Chief Rum (2)
16:22 #253 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (3)
18:11 #259 - Zinto votes CrimsonFox (3)
18:33 #260 - danny votes Thomkal (2)
18:57 #266 - mauboy votes bhlloy (1)

19:40 #280 - Mauboy unvotes bhlloy (0)
19:40 #280 - mauboy votes thomkal (3)
20:58 #292 - hoops votes JAG (3)
20:59 #293 - mckerney votes Thomkal (4)
21:16 #301 - hoops unvotes JAG (2)

21:49 #319 - hoops votes MrBug (4)
21:49 #320 - Thomkal unvotes JAG (1)
21:49 #320 - Thomkal votes MrBug (5)
21:51 #324 - MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2)
21:51 #324 - MrBug votes Thomkal (5)

21:53 #330 - Zinto unvotes CrimsonFox (1)
21:53 #330 - Zinto votes Thomkal (6)
21:56 #340 - mckerney unvotes Thomkal (5)
21:56 #341 - Danny unvotes Thomkal (4)
21:56 #341 - Danny votes Zinto (1)
21:58 #347 - Danny unvotes Zinto (0)
21:58 #347 - Danny votes Thomkal (5)
21:59 #356 - Chief Rum votes Thomkal (6)

Day Three

03:44 #600 CrimsonFox votes Zinto (1)
03:50 #602 JAG votes dwardzala (1)
06:50 #620 Narcizo votes dwardzala (2)
09:24 #627 Danny votes bhlloy (1)
11:53 #630 Bhlloy votes Zinto (2)
13:53 #637 Jackal votes bhlloy (2)

14:52 #657 Mau votes Lathum (1)
17:57 #687 mckerney votes bhlloy (3)
18:38 #691 Zinto votes dwardzala (3)
18:50 #692 Hoops votes dwardzala (4)
19:49 #703 Packer votes Bhlloy (4)
19:50 #704 CrimsonFox unvotes zinto (1)
19:50 #704 CrimsonFox votes Lathum (2)
19:58 #703 Dwardzala votes Lathum (3)

20:10 #710 Bhlloy unvotes Zinto (0)
20:10 #710 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (5)
20:16 #717 Packer unvotes Bhlloy (6)
20:16 #717 Packer votes dwardzala (5)
20:16 #718 Lathum votes Zinto. Repeatedly.(1)

20:17 #719 JAG reveals Everyone and their dog, except Lathum and Packer vote Packer - can't be bothered following it. People who hadn't voted at this stage:
MrBug, Chief, DV

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 04:32 AM

Day One

6 Daddy Torgo - Autumn (70), Zinto (77), Lathum (78), Hoops (130), Danny (139), Mauboy (151)
5 Darth Vilus - Narcizo (71), MrBug (86) Chief Rum (93), JAG (103), Daddy Torgo (117)
3 mckerney - bhlloy (73), PackerFanatic (84) Thomkal (92)
4 Chief Rum - Crimson Fox (81), Jackal (85), Mckerney (101), dwardzala (106)

Day Two

6 Thomkal - Dwardzala (186), Mauboy (280), MrBug (324), Zinto (330), Danny (347), Chief Rum (356)
3 Chief Rum - JAG (253), Darth Vilus (240), Jackal (253)
5 MrBug - CrimsonFox (206), Narcizo (207), Bhlloy (236), Hoops (319), Thomkal (324)
1 JAG - PackerFanatic (213)
1 CrimsonFox - Lathum (220)

Day Three - at the time of JAGs reveal

1 Zinto - Lathum (718)
6 Dwardzala - JAG (602), Narcizo (620), Zinto (691), Hoops (692), Bhlloy (710), Packer (717)
3 Bhlloy - Danny (627), Jackal (637), mckerney (687),
3 Lathum - Mau CrimsonFox (704), Dwardzala (703)

Day Three Final
8 Packer - JAG (719), Danny (721), Bhlloy (725), zinto (727), Jackal (730), Chief Rum (737), mckerney (755), Mau (767)
3 Lathum - CrimsonFox (704), Dwardzala (705), Packer (785)
2 Dwardzala - Narcizo (620), Hoops (692)
1 JAG - Lathum (765)

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 04:36 AM

Ok I take it back. My timezone issues are great ¨- If either Hoops or I came back and move our votes to Packer, Jag would have been lynched (unless he has hunting as well). If Hoops and I both came back and moved our votes JAG would be dead and dwarda still alive (although our next lynch target).

JAG · 05-05-2011, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Unfortunately there is some bad news - I have lickle woodland creatures and I sent them to check up on JAG. Once again my timezone issues have screwed with my role. I had a lot of suspicion about him but I thought his analysis is too good too waste by voting off so I wanted to be sure. I sent my order in and went to bed. Sorry guys. Guess whether he's KAI or not. Go on. Just guess.

I can't believe how many people chose that discipline. I thought most people would take Sixth Sense and Tracking.

If anyone has Weaponskill, I'd recommend taking a shot at CF and we can probably polish this game off whenever the day concludes, unless he has one of the foils to that skill (and we know one of his disciplines isn't since he has Sixth Sense, and there's a reasonable chance he's not lying about having Animal Kinship as well, otherwise a Sixth Sense scan of him would show him to be lying). I'm highly confident he's the last wolf.

JAG · 05-05-2011, 05:33 AM

Only DV and PF needed for unanimous nightfall.

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 05:45 AM

OK quickly as I really have to do work.

My interpretation of day three. Dwardza emerges as a contender. We get some other candidates in Bhlloy and Lathum. Packer ties Bhlloy up with Dwardza, for example and dwardza pushes Lathum up. At some stage between 19:49 and 20:16 (I'm guessing after bhlloy makes his self-defence switch to Dw) the wolves decide to throw Dwardza under the bus so Packer switches to him. It raises questions about the people voting lathum and bhlloy but I don't think it's hugely damning. There's probably only two other wolves left - possibly just one, possibly three so I don't actually think they could make much of an effort other than what we see. They/he might not even have voted yet.

I need to read through before I can make many more conclusions but I don't have the time now. I'll try and get back this evening. This is kind of rushed but I wanted to get something down while it's fresh in my head.

JAG · 05-05-2011, 06:01 AM

I don't think it's a coincidence that at the end of D3 CF is the only unknown on Lathum in such a way that would've saved dward from getting lynched once PF's hunter skill kicked in.

PackerFanatic · 05-05-2011, 08:50 AM

Lathum, you sly boots...

Lathum · 05-05-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I don't think it's a coincidence that at the end of D3 CF is the only unknown on Lathum in such a way that would've saved dward from getting lynched once PF's hunter skill kicked in.

what do you mean by this?

MrBug708 · 05-05-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

This bothers be a little. Very accusatory about Chief and the innocence of those that suspect his statement was so false. And it was in response to this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Don't be so fast to announce everyone who said this to be villagers. Abe plain as day told us that villagers did not receive PMs so wolves could definitely KNOW to say that.

However, this does hurt Chief a bit and I do feel bad.

I never saw anything from Abe saying that villagers did not receive PMs. I've gone back and looked and looked. Granted, it all blends in. But is mauboy making stuff up here?

I think his scan was legit regardless and I don't see wolves wasting scans as a night action. I also don't see wolves outing the fact that they made a scan and received a track. Then again mauboy is chaotic. The most chaotic player I've ever played with, which is why I sixthsensed him. I just don't see him revealing all the stuff he did as a wolf. But please mau, where did you see that ?

It's hard to chop up your posts. I wasn't accusing Chief but was saying if Chief was bad, it would make sense that I would be bad as well.

I had also never saw that post about nobody else receiving it (duh) and apparently I wasn't the only one.

MrBug708 · 05-05-2011, 09:53 AM

Maybe we should have Abe kill DV since he hasn't be on for a while and has hardly said anything?

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 09:54 AM

It means JAG thinks that CF left his vote on you to make sure that the lynch hit you instead of Dwarda once it had bounced off of Packer.

Dunno about it myself. Seems likes that would be sacrificing Crimson for a couple more days of keeping dwarda alive. If it is the case then I doubt Crimson is the only wolf left after Packer goes to baddyland.

Narcizo · 05-05-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Maybe we should have Abe kill DV since he hasn't be on for a while and has hardly said anything?

DV explained his situation and said he would be around more on Thursday - it's hardly going to be a thriving centre of activity today anyway so I think that would be ranging from very premature to the outright bad.

JAG · 05-05-2011, 10:03 AM

CF immediately disputed my scan even though it made no sense not to believe it, to the point of absurdity by leaving his vote on Lathum. He had a nonsensical switch to Lathum about 25 mins before I revealed, which coincidentally (if you really believe that) dward followed him. And yes Lathum, I believe he intentionally left his vote on you so that PF could pull that last minute vote switch.

JAG · 05-05-2011, 10:07 AM

If there is a fifth wolf, I'd have to take another look through things, but nothing sticks out that I can think of off-hand like it did for CF / PF / dward.

mckerney · 05-05-2011, 10:41 AM

Any villagers have weapon skill? Maybe we should use our extra time today to come up with someone to night kill?

MrBug708 · 05-05-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Any villagers have weapon skill? Maybe we should use our extra time today to come up with someone to night kill?

I would imagine any villager might be hesitant to do so, in case a wolf has a bodyguard skill

JAG · 05-05-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I would imagine any villager might be hesitant to do so, in case a wolf has a bodyguard skill

A wolf BG seems unlikely because they have a much smaller pool of wolves to protect than a villager BG (and they won't accidentally protect a villager as a villager could accidentally protect a wolf). Seeing as we're about to kill our third wolf and have only lost three villagers, with this huge lead I think if someone has Weaponskill, this is a great time to make use of it.

mckerney · 05-05-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

A wolf BG seems unlikely because they have a much smaller pool of wolves to protect than a villager BG (and they won't accidentally protect a villager as a villager could accidentally protect a wolf). Seeing as we're about to kill our third wolf and have only lost three villagers, with this huge lead I think if someone has Weaponskill, this is a great time to make use of it.

If its 5 wolves they only have 2 left, body guard can't protect himself, even if we hit on a protected wolf it gives us a great place to start the lynch discussion tomorrow.

hoopsguy · 05-05-2011, 11:17 AM

If we are agreeing to do a Weapon night-attack, then let me go ahead and be the attacker. I assume that our target should be Crimson.

I don't see a reason for us to overlap on this - lets not have multiple people wasting the power. I've also got Mindshield, so they won't have any recourse for stopping me other than potential unknown wolf powers.

Don't bother using any powers to protect me - if I'm not successful tonight and I'm still alive I'll keep the attack for use later. If they manage to kill me tonight then just proceed with the regularly scheduled lynch tomorrow.

Let me know if I'm missing anything obvious with this plan.

JAG · 05-05-2011, 11:26 AM

Sounds good, both plan and target.

The Jackal · 05-05-2011, 11:31 AM

I tend to agree. I was kind of hoping the target wouldn't be announced in the thread in case the wolves have methods of countering, but I have no problems with the plan. And if they are able to counter with the skills they have left, hoops would still have his ability and we'd have info on CF.

Lathum · 05-05-2011, 11:38 AM

the only problem is Hoops now just became a NK target

bhlloy · 05-05-2011, 11:50 AM

Yeah I don't think this was smart at all. Weaponskill is not a one use skill, if everybody hit the same target tonight it wouldn't have mattered.

05-05-2011, 02:23 AM	#865
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	VOTE PF VOTE NIGHTFALL Oh, and yer nuts, CF. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

05-05-2011, 01:08 AM	#851
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	not totally but in my eyes it pushes him up on the trust list especially with his tracking response. Granted Jag did say that the "cleared" is better trusted then the "seer" in cases like this. But for today, I trust mauboy totally.

05-05-2011, 01:09 AM	#854
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Not at all. Read it again.

05-05-2011, 01:41 AM	#857
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Nice going Jag and, well, everyone else. Wolves screwed that one up. Vote PackerFanatic Vote Nightfall Voting patterns should actually be pretty interesting yesterday - despite the late runaway. Nightfall also fits in nicely with my packed work schedule today.

05-05-2011, 01:45 AM	#858
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Unfortunately there is some bad news - I have lickle woodland creatures and I sent them to check up on JAG. Once again my timezone issues have screwed with my role. I had a lot of suspicion about him but I thought his analysis is too good too waste by voting off so I wanted to be sure. I sent my order in and went to bed. Sorry guys. Guess whether he's KAI or not. Go on. Just guess.

05-05-2011, 01:49 AM	#859
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Now there's the Narcizo I know and love. I think you're Kai now.

05-05-2011, 03:28 AM	#871
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day One 11:07 #70 - Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (1) 11:22 #71 - Narcizo votes Darth Vilus (1) 11:33 #72 - JAG votes Dwardzala (1) 11:35 #73 - bhlloy votes mckerney (1) 12:34 #77 - Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (2) 12:39 #78 - Lathum votes DaddyTorgo (3) 13:11 #80 - Thomkal votes Narcizo (1) 13:47 #81 - CrimsonFox votes Chief Rum (1) 14:41 #84 - PackerFanatic votes mckerney (2) 15:09 #85 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (2) 16:03 #86 - Bug votes Darth Vilus (2) 16:45 #92 - Thomkal unvotes Narcizo (0) 16:45 #92 – Thomkal votes mckerney (3) 16:53 #93 - Chief Rum votes Darth Vilus (3) 17:27 #101 - mckerney votes Chief Rum (3) 17:37 #103 - JAG unvotes Dward (0) 17:37 #103 - JAG votes Darth Vilus (4) 17:55 #106 - dwardzala votes Chief Rum (4) 20:36 #117 - DaddyTorgo votes Darth Vilus (5) 21:41 #130 - Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (4) 21:52 #139 - Danny votes DaddyTorgo (5) 21:58 #148 - Mau votes Chief Rum (5) 21:59 #151 - Mau unvotes Chief Rum (4) 21:59 #151 – Mau votes DaddyTorgo (6)

05-05-2011, 03:30 AM	#872
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Meh! Missed Danny as blue, I've put Packer as red (call me a reckless daredevil if you will) and JAG as pale blue (ok he's not fully 100% cleared to the rest of you but to me he's like 99%).

05-05-2011, 03:33 AM	#873
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day Two 10:39 #186 - Dwardzala votes Thomkal (1) 04:36 #253 - JAG votes Chief Rum (1) 04:50 #206 - CrimsonFox votes MrBug (1) 08:18 #207 - Narcizo votes MrBug (2) 10:44 #213 - PackerFanatic votes JAG (1) 11:08 #214 - Thomkal votes JAG (2) 12:00 #220 - Lathum votes CrimsonFox (1) 14:08 #236 - Bhlloy votes MrBug (3) 14:16 #239 - MrBug votes CrimsonFox (2) 14:18 #240 - Darth Vilus votes Chief Rum (2) 16:22 #253 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (3) 18:11 #259 - Zinto votes CrimsonFox (3) 18:33 #260 - danny votes Thomkal (2) 18:57 #266 - mauboy votes bhlloy (1) 19:40 #280 - Mauboy unvotes bhlloy (0) 19:40 #280 - mauboy votes thomkal (3) 20:58 #292 - hoops votes JAG (3) 20:59 #293 - mckerney votes Thomkal (4) 21:16 #301 - hoops unvotes JAG (2) 21:49 #319 - hoops votes MrBug (4) 21:49 #320 - Thomkal unvotes JAG (1) 21:49 #320 - Thomkal votes MrBug (5) 21:51 #324 - MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 21:51 #324 - MrBug votes Thomkal (5) 21:53 #330 - Zinto unvotes CrimsonFox (1) 21:53 #330 - Zinto votes Thomkal (6) 21:56 #340 - mckerney unvotes Thomkal (5) 21:56 #341 - Danny unvotes Thomkal (4) 21:56 #341 - Danny votes Zinto (1) 21:58 #347 - Danny unvotes Zinto (0) 21:58 #347 - Danny votes Thomkal (5) 21:59 #356 - Chief Rum votes Thomkal (6)

05-05-2011, 03:58 AM	#874
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	If you are going to put Chief in Blue you have to put Jackal in blue too. I would rather you didn't put anyone in blue unless they are dead and villagers.

05-05-2011, 04:02 AM	#875
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day Three 03:44 #600 CrimsonFox votes Zinto (1) 03:50 #602 JAG votes dwardzala (1) 06:50 #620 Narcizo votes dwardzala (2) 09:24 #627 Danny votes bhlloy (1) 11:53 #630 Bhlloy votes Zinto (2) 13:53 #637 Jackal votes bhlloy (2) 14:52 #657 Mau votes Lathum (1) 17:57 #687 mckerney votes bhlloy (3) 18:38 #691 Zinto votes dwardzala (3) 18:50 #692 Hoops votes dwardzala (4) 19:49 #703 Packer votes Bhlloy (4) 19:50 #704 CrimsonFox unvotes zinto (1) 19:50 #704 CrimsonFox votes Lathum (2) 19:58 #703 Dwardzala votes Lathum (3) 20:10 #710 Bhlloy unvotes Zinto (0) 20:10 #710 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (5) 20:16 #717 Packer unvotes Bhlloy (6) 20:16 #717 Packer votes dwardzala (5) 20:16 #718 Lathum votes Zinto. Repeatedly.(1) 20:17 #719 JAG reveals Everyone and their dog, except Lathum and Packer vote Packer - can't be bothered following it. People who hadn't voted at this stage: MrBug, Chief, DV

05-05-2011, 04:06 AM	#877
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day One 11:07 #70 - Autumn votes DaddyTorgo (1) 11:22 #71 - Narcizo votes Darth Vilus (1) 11:33 #72 - JAG votes Dwardzala (1) 11:35 #73 - bhlloy votes mckerney (1) 12:34 #77 - Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (2) 12:39 #78 - Lathum votes DaddyTorgo (3) 13:11 #80 - Thomkal votes Narcizo (1) 13:47 #81 - CrimsonFox votes Chief Rum (1) 14:41 #84 - PackerFanatic votes mckerney (2) 15:09 #85 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (2) 16:03 #86 - Bug votes Darth Vilus (2) 16:45 #92 - Thomkal unvotes Narcizo (0) 16:45 #92 – Thomkal votes mckerney (3) 16:53 #93 - Chief Rum votes Darth Vilus (3) 17:27 #101 - mckerney votes Chief Rum (3) 17:37 #103 - JAGunvotes Dward (0) 17:37 #103 - JAG votes Darth Vilus (4) 17:55 #106 - dwardzala votes Chief Rum (4) 20:36 #117 - DaddyTorgo votes Darth Vilus (5) 21:41 #130 - Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (4) 21:52 #139 - Danny votes DaddyTorgo (5) 21:58 #148 - Mau votes Chief Rum (5) 21:59 #151 - Mau unvotes Chief Rum (4) 21:59 #151 – Mau votes DaddyTorgo (6) Day Two 10:39 #186 - Dwardzala votes Thomkal (1) 04:36 #253 - JAG votes Chief Rum (1) 04:50 #206 - CrimsonFox votes MrBug (1) 08:18 #207 - Narcizo votes MrBug (2) 10:44 #213 - PackerFanatic votes JAG (1) 11:08 #214 - Thomkal votes JAG (2) 12:00 #220 - Lathum votes CrimsonFox (1) 14:08 #236 - Bhlloy votes MrBug (3) 14:16 #239 - MrBug votes CrimsonFox (2) 14:18 #240 - Darth Vilus votes Chief Rum (2) 16:22 #253 - Jackal votes Chief Rum (3) 18:11 #259 - Zinto votes CrimsonFox (3) 18:33 #260 - danny votes Thomkal (2) 18:57 #266 - mauboy votes bhlloy (1) 19:40 #280 - Mauboy unvotes bhlloy (0) 19:40 #280 - mauboy votes thomkal (3) 20:58 #292 - hoops votes JAG (3) 20:59 #293 - mckerney votes Thomkal (4) 21:16 #301 - hoops unvotes JAG (2) 21:49 #319 - hoops votes MrBug (4) 21:49 #320 - Thomkal unvotes JAG (1) 21:49 #320 - Thomkal votes MrBug (5) 21:51 #324 - MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 21:51 #324 - MrBug votes Thomkal (5) 21:53 #330 - Zinto unvotes CrimsonFox (1) 21:53 #330 - Zinto votes Thomkal (6) 21:56 #340 - mckerney unvotes Thomkal (5) 21:56 #341 - Danny unvotes Thomkal (4) 21:56 #341 - Danny votes Zinto (1) 21:58 #347 - Danny unvotes Zinto (0) 21:58 #347 - Danny votes Thomkal (5) 21:59 #356 - Chief Rum votes Thomkal (6) Day Three 03:44 #600 CrimsonFox votes Zinto (1) 03:50 #602 JAG votes dwardzala (1) 06:50 #620 Narcizo votes dwardzala (2) 09:24 #627 Danny votes bhlloy (1) 11:53 #630 Bhlloy votes Zinto (2) 13:53 #637 Jackal votes bhlloy (2) 14:52 #657 Mau votes Lathum (1) 17:57 #687 mckerney votes bhlloy (3) 18:38 #691 Zinto votes dwardzala (3) 18:50 #692 Hoops votes dwardzala (4) 19:49 #703 Packer votes Bhlloy (4) 19:50 #704 CrimsonFox unvotes zinto (1) 19:50 #704 CrimsonFox votes Lathum (2) 19:58 #703 Dwardzala votes Lathum (3) 20:10 #710 Bhlloy unvotes Zinto (0) 20:10 #710 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (5) 20:16 #717 Packer unvotes Bhlloy (6) 20:16 #717 Packer votes dwardzala (5) 20:16 #718 Lathum votes Zinto. Repeatedly.(1) 20:17 #719 JAG reveals Everyone and their dog, except Lathum and Packer vote Packer - can't be bothered following it. People who hadn't voted at this stage: MrBug, Chief, DV

05-05-2011, 04:32 AM	#878
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day One 6 Daddy Torgo - Autumn (70), Zinto (77), Lathum (78), Hoops (130), Danny (139), Mauboy (151) 5 Darth Vilus - Narcizo (71), MrBug (86) Chief Rum (93), JAG (103), Daddy Torgo (117) 3 mckerney - bhlloy (73), PackerFanatic (84) Thomkal (92) 4 Chief Rum - Crimson Fox (81), Jackal (85), Mckerney (101), dwardzala (106) Day Two 6 Thomkal - Dwardzala (186), Mauboy (280), MrBug (324), Zinto (330), Danny (347), Chief Rum (356) 3 Chief Rum - JAG (253), Darth Vilus (240), Jackal (253) 5 MrBug - CrimsonFox (206), Narcizo (207), Bhlloy (236), Hoops (319), Thomkal (324) 1 JAG - PackerFanatic (213) 1 CrimsonFox - Lathum (220) Day Three - at the time of JAGs reveal 1 Zinto - Lathum (718) 6 Dwardzala - JAG (602), Narcizo (620), Zinto (691), Hoops (692), Bhlloy (710), Packer (717) 3 Bhlloy - Danny (627), Jackal (637), mckerney (687), 3 Lathum - Mau CrimsonFox (704), Dwardzala (703) Day Three Final 8 Packer - JAG (719), Danny (721), Bhlloy (725), zinto (727), Jackal (730), Chief Rum (737), mckerney (755), Mau (767) 3 Lathum - CrimsonFox (704), Dwardzala (705), Packer (785) 2 Dwardzala - Narcizo (620), Hoops (692) 1 JAG - Lathum (765)

05-05-2011, 04:36 AM	#879
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Ok I take it back. My timezone issues are great ¨- If either Hoops or I came back and move our votes to Packer, Jag would have been lynched (unless he has hunting as well). If Hoops and I both came back and moved our votes JAG would be dead and dwarda still alive (although our next lynch target).

05-05-2011, 05:33 AM	#881
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Only DV and PF needed for unanimous nightfall.

05-05-2011, 05:45 AM	#882
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	OK quickly as I really have to do work. My interpretation of day three. Dwardza emerges as a contender. We get some other candidates in Bhlloy and Lathum. Packer ties Bhlloy up with Dwardza, for example and dwardza pushes Lathum up. At some stage between 19:49 and 20:16 (I'm guessing after bhlloy makes his self-defence switch to Dw) the wolves decide to throw Dwardza under the bus so Packer switches to him. It raises questions about the people voting lathum and bhlloy but I don't think it's hugely damning. There's probably only two other wolves left - possibly just one, possibly three so I don't actually think they could make much of an effort other than what we see. They/he might not even have voted yet. I need to read through before I can make many more conclusions but I don't have the time now. I'll try and get back this evening. This is kind of rushed but I wanted to get something down while it's fresh in my head.

05-05-2011, 06:01 AM	#883
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I don't think it's a coincidence that at the end of D3 CF is the only unknown on Lathum in such a way that would've saved dward from getting lynched once PF's hunter skill kicked in.

05-05-2011, 08:50 AM	#884
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Lathum, you sly boots...

05-05-2011, 09:53 AM	#887
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Maybe we should have Abe kill DV since he hasn't be on for a while and has hardly said anything?

05-05-2011, 09:54 AM	#888
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	It means JAG thinks that CF left his vote on you to make sure that the lynch hit you instead of Dwarda once it had bounced off of Packer. Dunno about it myself. Seems likes that would be sacrificing Crimson for a couple more days of keeping dwarda alive. If it is the case then I doubt Crimson is the only wolf left after Packer goes to baddyland.

05-05-2011, 10:03 AM	#890
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	CF immediately disputed my scan even though it made no sense not to believe it, to the point of absurdity by leaving his vote on Lathum. He had a nonsensical switch to Lathum about 25 mins before I revealed, which coincidentally (if you really believe that) dward followed him. And yes Lathum, I believe he intentionally left his vote on you so that PF could pull that last minute vote switch.

05-05-2011, 10:07 AM	#891
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	If there is a fifth wolf, I'd have to take another look through things, but nothing sticks out that I can think of off-hand like it did for CF / PF / dward.

05-05-2011, 10:41 AM	#892
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Any villagers have weapon skill? Maybe we should use our extra time today to come up with someone to night kill?

05-05-2011, 11:17 AM	#896
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If we are agreeing to do a Weapon night-attack, then let me go ahead and be the attacker. I assume that our target should be Crimson. I don't see a reason for us to overlap on this - lets not have multiple people wasting the power. I've also got Mindshield, so they won't have any recourse for stopping me other than potential unknown wolf powers. Don't bother using any powers to protect me - if I'm not successful tonight and I'm still alive I'll keep the attack for use later. If they manage to kill me tonight then just proceed with the regularly scheduled lynch tomorrow. Let me know if I'm missing anything obvious with this plan.

05-05-2011, 11:26 AM	#897
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Sounds good, both plan and target.

05-05-2011, 11:31 AM	#898
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I tend to agree. I was kind of hoping the target wouldn't be announced in the thread in case the wolves have methods of countering, but I have no problems with the plan. And if they are able to counter with the skills they have left, hoops would still have his ability and we'd have info on CF.

05-05-2011, 11:38 AM	#899
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	the only problem is Hoops now just became a NK target

05-05-2011, 11:50 AM	#900
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah I don't think this was smart at all. Weaponskill is not a one use skill, if everybody hit the same target tonight it wouldn't have mattered.

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