10-10-2006, 09:35 PM | #851 | |
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I don't know with any certainty that GE is good, but I just rethought about the value of lynching someone on day 1 with all of these roles out and about. We have a voting record, so it isn't like we lost that (even though it was a runaway). My thinking is that there are enough of us with abilities AND (a big AND) there are a lot of folks running around with guns, so it isn't like a lynch is our only way to win. The only minor concern I have is that saldana and GE are staging a pretty big argument for this early on, with neither of them claiming to have any substantial evidence. Is it sincere or for show to make them clearly appear oppositional? Probably nothing--but something to watch. |
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10-10-2006, 09:37 PM | #852 | |
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10-10-2006, 09:37 PM | #853 |
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...and for what it is worth, if I were GE I probably wouldn't break myself out of jail either, as it would make him look very shady.
And with that, I am done aligning myself with GE. Hopefully tomorrow we will have a larger COT and, perhaps, some damning evidence. |
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i dont have any more evidence that the gaping holes in GE's reveal, which is more than we had yesterday. |
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10-10-2006, 09:39 PM | #855 | |
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But why would you not want to release Lathum and I when we could be helping the village? You would rather have us sitting in jail or out and about helping the townspeople? You have been ignoring this question like the plague.
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10-10-2006, 09:39 PM | #856 |
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well now that the day is over im no longer drunk. I need some whiskey and some cards. a woman would be nice too
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10-10-2006, 09:42 PM | #857 | |
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What gaping holes? You yourself admitted that I had a gun. You questioned at the deadline why I would have this gun. There has not been a reasonable explanation yet as to why you brought this up right before I was going to be killed. I would say that your story has more gaping holes. The eagerness to talk me into using my powers is alarming. Do you think people are just going to ignore that?
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10-10-2006, 09:42 PM | #858 | |
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Sal, I still have faith in you, or else I would vote for someone else, but, to me, this isn't a useful battle for you and GE to fight. I can understand that him not wanting to use his power could seem questionable, but I, for one, can understand not using it, so I don't think it is utterly damning for him not to want to use it right now. It seems like a 50-50 type of call for a player to make. Just my two cents. |
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10-10-2006, 09:45 PM | #859 |
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I'm going to go dig my self a hole and see if I get rich. see you all tomorrow
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10-10-2006, 09:46 PM | #860 | |
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I agree completely. I think saldana should play this totally straight, and release Lathum, and jail somebody else, somebody not in any cot. |
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10-10-2006, 09:46 PM | #861 |
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Golden: Why would you not want to release Lathum? I hear what you're saying just as much, but really I think having Lathum out of jail and two new people to consider as lynch suspects is better than having 1 new lynch suspect if saldana were to use one of his actions to fre Lathum.
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10-10-2006, 09:50 PM | #862 |
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BK, are we talking about GE using his power to release Lathum or just having saldana release Lathum?
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10-10-2006, 09:51 PM | #863 | |
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If you can break anyone out of jail or put anyone in it, why would it matter if you were in jail or not? |
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10-10-2006, 09:53 PM | #864 | |
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I have no problems with freeing Lathum but why should I use my powers to do so? Saldana can release him. I am not going to give into the challenege of saldana and use my powers because that means he can do whatever he wants to over the next three days.
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10-10-2006, 09:53 PM | #865 |
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im a little confused
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10-10-2006, 09:53 PM | #866 |
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After thinking it over I think GE should use his power. We want the good guys out of jail and potential bad guys in jail. Saldana has two actions. If he uses one to free Lathum, then we only have one person to consider for lynch tomorrow. If that person is clean, then we've lost another day trying to find the 'boys. If GE uses his power instead, he can regenerate it so that it's more likely to be useful again later in the game, and saldana can give us two suspects for tomorrow.
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10-10-2006, 09:54 PM | #867 |
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I am very confused.
I really don't see the merit of this argument. Maybe I missed something earlier? |
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agreed. if Lathum is to be freed, the sheriff should do it. and GE should keep his power if we need the sheriff "taken care of" |
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10-10-2006, 09:54 PM | #869 |
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No it doesn't. If you think he's bad then make the case tomorrow to replace him as sheriff.
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10-10-2006, 09:55 PM | #870 | |
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Because apparently there is a ton of information being passed around at night in this game. Also, someone with a weapon can be very useful outside of jail. There is just no sense in keeping me sitting around in jail.
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10-10-2006, 09:55 PM | #871 | |
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I am still not sure this is technically possible. If sal's night action comes before GE's night action, he won't be able to put two people in jail. |
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10-10-2006, 09:55 PM | #872 | |
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But does GE using his power clear him of anything? In my opinion, it does not. |
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10-10-2006, 09:56 PM | #873 | |
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hmm i do see your point now. 1 question. does Lathum have a role that requires him being out of jail to perform? is it all important that he gets out tonight? |
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10-10-2006, 09:56 PM | #874 |
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Are you comfortable then lynching whoever saldana choses to place in jail? I'm not. I'd rather have two suspects as I'd likely feel ok lynching at least one of them, I'd think.
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10-10-2006, 09:59 PM | #877 | |
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I plan on doing that. From jail.
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10-10-2006, 09:59 PM | #878 |
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I think I am sincerely confused or missing something.
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10-10-2006, 10:00 PM | #879 |
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That's why I think sal should cut Lathum free, see what GE does, and jail somebody else. |
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What would you like to see him do? I mean him busting himself out doesn't clear him, to me, as much as busting somoene else out. Especially someone considered to generally be in the COT.
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10-10-2006, 10:04 PM | #881 |
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It is my understanding that my actions override any of the current sheirff's actions. Thus, my night action would occur after his.
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10-10-2006, 10:05 PM | #882 | |
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Honestly, I don't think ANYTHING he does will definitively clear him. We see what the night brings us, is my take. |
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10-10-2006, 10:09 PM | #883 | |
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Agreed. |
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10-10-2006, 10:18 PM | #885 |
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GE - life would have been a LOT easier today if you had given some information just a bit earlier. We had a pretty full room for the hour leading up to the lynch. Obviously you can say 'you play your game and I'll play mine' but I'm trying to provide some insight as to why people would have questioned you today and why we needed to have the Mayor/Duke reveal himself to keep you around.
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10-10-2006, 10:24 PM | #886 |
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Agreed with hoops. I role revealed as soon as I released how the conversation was going.
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10-10-2006, 10:30 PM | #887 |
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The next thing that I would like to see - if both parties think Lathum should be released, I would like to see them hammer out an agreement to do this. Having a pissing match that leaves him in his cell is not the end of the world, but it doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense either and will likely lead to continued escalation between the two of them.
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10-10-2006, 10:30 PM | #888 |
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Both
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Both parties =
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10-10-2006, 10:31 PM | #890 | |
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For what it is worth, I don't feel real great about having to reveal, but I'd rather keep everyone around for another day and hope we get some benefit from tonight than to just kill everyone off. I regret not being around more today to push the no lynch angle, but I had a long workday, unfortunately. |
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10-10-2006, 10:31 PM | #891 |
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Both parties = Saldana
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10-10-2006, 10:31 PM | #892 |
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Both parties = Saldana and GE
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10-10-2006, 10:32 PM | #893 |
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10-10-2006, 10:33 PM | #894 |
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So, can we only add one person to the jail tonight?
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10-10-2006, 10:34 PM | #895 |
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Assuming Lathum somehow gets released, I think we should make him sherriff tomorrow.
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10-10-2006, 10:35 PM | #896 |
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Is there any good reason that the mortician should stay under wraps?
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10-10-2006, 10:36 PM | #897 |
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If saldana has to go first, then that's true. I suspect it is, otherwise saldana's night order would have to be conditional on some OTHER night order, which the gm may not allow. |
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Well that was interesting. I'm for GE using his power. It serves two purposes, first it would help bolster his story (count me in the group that is frustrated with the five minute to lynch reveal), and secondly it allows Saldana to get three people in jail to choose from tomorrow. The cowboys will be two up on us after tonight assuming there is a kill, if we don't have anyone in jail to choose from tomorrow we give them another free pass and we end up three down.
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I'm not sure he is anymore.
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10-10-2006, 10:40 PM | #900 |
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I'm having a really hard time believing GE. Am I alone in that?
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