WW XCIII - Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain - SYMPATHIZERS WIN!!!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Does your weapon also protect you against night kills?

I wasn't explicitly told that, but it gives an advantage in a fight.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That seems like a turnaround from your post this morning. What was it that would have caused the change?

Eaglefan's arrest? the imminent failure if we didn't change? I don't regret going on the mission, I found something that will help us, but in hindsight, had I been able to log in sooner I would have gladly traded finding that item for helping complete the mission even after EF's arrest.

I'm stubborn, not stupid. I will always do whats best for the village when its patently obvious and I'm around in time to do so.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

If the wolves have things they can do we didn't know about, it'd make sense that we'll have things to employ they didn't know about. I doubt Abe would balance all the hidden information one-sidedly.

That's great for the villagers who know about secret mechanics, of course it's possible they've got some ability relating to some mechanic they can't even understand. For people who are trying to put together a plan to win this, it makes things damn difficult.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Yeah, could've used you and Poli about 8 hours ago...

Sorry, I was wrapped up with my mother and the kids doing 6 months worth of shopping, after which I had to unpack and repack 40lbs of boneless chicken breast and get it in my tiny ass freezer, along with putting away all the shit we bought today.

It was a long, tiring effort, but we are now prepared to host a seriously big ass BBQ if the chance arises

[Barkeep49]

I'm real excited that we get the work breakdown. Means we should be able to tell when we're hit with faking.

[Poli]

Am I able to send the gun over to anyone or does it just stay in my possession forevermore?

[The Jackal]

It's cool, I know real life comes into play, I was just the only one of the three searchers around and it made it difficult for me to coordinate possible movement. :P

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Poli

Am I able to send the gun over to anyone or does it just stay in my possession forevermore?

From the rules:

In order to move an item, simply pm me who you want to give it to.

[Poli]

You were around at that time? Why didn't you switch out then?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Eaglefan's arrest? the imminent failure if we didn't change? I don't regret going on the mission, I found something that will help us, but in hindsight, had I been able to log in sooner I would have gladly traded finding that item for helping complete the mission even after EF's arrest.

I'm stubborn, not stupid. I will always do whats best for the village when its patently obvious and I'm around in time to do so.

You're sending me mixed messages here. Are you saying that if you had been on sooner you would have changed or not? And if you are saying that you would have changed your action, you're saying your reasoning is because of EagleFan's arrest, which happened after the mission you went on?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

From the rules:

In order to move an item, simply pm me who you want to give it to.

Interesting, very interesting.

Sorry Jack, I'm not much of a "read the rules" person.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

It's cool, I know real life comes into play, I was just the only one of the three searchers around and it made it difficult for me to coordinate possible movement. :P

Yeah, I'm sorry I wasn't here to help get something done. it makes me look bad in general.

[path12]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Hi path, care to tell us who killed you?

Not without a seance.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

You're sending me mixed messages here. Are you saying that if you had been on sooner you would have changed or not? And if you are saying that you would have changed your action, you're saying your reasoning is because of EagleFan's arrest, which happened after the mission you went on?

duh, yeah that was after the mission so it wouldn't have mattered then. Timing wise my choice was made and they played it well. If I had known we needed the extra work I would definitely have changed. I was gone all day so I had no clue how things shook out until I scanned through 8 pages of posts to catch up.

Based on the step by step of how things happened I most likely would not have moved, because at that time I wouldn't have seen a reason to. Guess my hindsight is as shitty as my real sight.

[Poli]

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya

[Poli]

That was for Path, by the way.

[RendeR]

I feel like Lathum on a bender. I can't think past my nose right now.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Poli

Interesting, very interesting.

Sorry Jack, I'm not much of a "read the rules" person.

You should really start being one.

[Poli]

I give it a shot from time to time. Easier rule games are far easier to read. If they somehow involved football, I'd be all over it.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Poli

You were around at that time? Why didn't you switch out then?

I hadn't heard from either of you and couldn't take the chance that the wolves had either 1 or 2 on the mission and would get full shot at the items. I mean, hopefully we're all good and we obviously had no way of knowing that warrant would be issued, but yeah.. that's why I didn't move.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I feel like Lathum on a bender. I can't think past my nose right now.

not really sure what that means

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

not really sure what that means

Just relating back to your drunken posting last night, nothing meant by it in real game terms. My brain is mush.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Just relating back to your drunken posting last night, nothing meant by it in real game terms. My brain is mush.

ahh, i did have a snootfull.

[Abe Sargent]

Let me process real quick

[Abe Sargent]

You leave Drawdy Creek behind and decide to head nearby to the mining town of Bob White. Your failure in Drawdy Creek, the notice the company received of your arrival are proof that there are sympathizers in your midst. Bob White is on the other side of Drawdy Mountain, so the trek is quick.

As you arrive at the mining town of Bob White you resolve yourself to find the person in your midst who is responsible, and Oust them.

Good News! EagleFan’s arrest warrant was falsified and he has been released. Although you have no evidence, you suspect company interference.

In Bob White, you have run out of the administrata necessary for a successful union. Therefore, in addition to recruitment tasks, you will have to focus on fixing your union back up a bit. The miners here are willing, so you can use that to also fix your finances and organization.


Needs:
Gladhandling – 8
Oratory – 8
Treasury – 8
Organization – 8

There are no missions for today. Remember that you can vote as well as work today, you can do both. Good luck!

[Abe Sargent]

The following ad was placed in newspapers in 1913 to hire scabs:

“Miners and laborers for coal mine – blacksmiths, track layers, drum runners, motor runners, motor helpers, trappers, greasers, slate men, tipple boys, mule drivers, tipple bosses, and men. Good steady job all the year around; family men of all nationalities preferred. Transportation furnished; long contract; also strong men used to pick work can make $6 per day. Strike on. Homes all furnished. All the coal you want, $1 per month. Here is your chance to make money and a good home. Apply early. Call Mr. Williams, 548 Broadway.”

Of course, the train ride, homes, tools and everything else was charged to the miner’s account, putting them deeply in debt to the company just by arriving. Few miners actually got physical script, instead keeping a ledger with their pay and expenses, and their debt just increased and increased. Any miners that just simply left had nowhere to go. The train out of the company town was owned and operated by the company. The mining towns were virtually in the middle of nowhere. The coal companies purchases vast swaths of land and owned everything around the company towns. People who left could be tracked down and forced to pay based on the debt they owed.

Remember, many of the scabs hired barely knew English, whether immigrants with little English skills, poor folk without good reading, or disadvantaged black populations without an opportunity to read.

[Danny]

So no night kill?

[Lathum]

OK, my guess is the wolves used their power to screw with EF today in lieu of a night kill.

I just don't see thim going conversion this early.

Thoughts?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, my guess is the wolves used their power to screw with EF today in lieu of a night kill.

I just don't see thim going conversion this early.

Thoughts?

I'd say that makes sense

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, my guess is the wolves used their power to screw with EF today in lieu of a night kill.

I just don't see thim going conversion this early.

Thoughts?

My best guess would be conversion.

[Autumn]

It's really hard to say with these mechanics. It's certainly possible they chose the arrest instead of the night kill, which made good sense for htem in this case. But I dont think we can really hazard too much of a guess how things work.

I take it that the Organization and Treasury are meant to "fix the union" and the rest are for the town. This will be another hard day but we won't have the mission to interfere at least. I would expect some kind of trouble from the Sympathizers during the day though.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by dubb93

My best guess would be conversion.

I actually think what Lathum said might make more sense.

[dubb93]

Work Gladhandling

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

My best guess would be conversion.

I just don't see why, I am assuming there is some sort of seer mechanic, why try a conversion so soon before everyone can be scanned?

[Danny]

Today we have to vote someone off?

[Lathum]

we do

[dubb93]

[quote=Lathum;2007283]I just don't see why, I am assuming there is some sort of seer mechanicQUOTE]

Or a bodyguard mechanic?

[EagleFan]

I'm free!!!

I hope that whatever they did to me was their only action but would not be surprised if there was a conversion attempt. They want to get the numbers so the earlier they can bring more on board the better.

It's late so I will comment more on what happened today (not on my situation as I didn't learn anything different than what was posted here) sometime tomorrow when I am a little more awake.

I don't think that any more than one sympathiser went on the mission yesterday. They probably went after me once they saw that they could shut us out from winning the camp. In hindsight I wish that I hadn't revealed my multiplier initially (or only said 2x) but hindsight is 20/20.

I am still suspicious of those who wanted to overload the camp tasks on day one (when it was much easier to gain the camps with fewer work hours reqauired) which would have kept the numbers down on the mission. Just by the description of that mission it sounded as if it could have helped us (saving trapped workers sounds like a way to help convince the workers to sign with us). On the other side, anyone pushing for going on the mission today should be looked at, when that was completely selfish (or wolfish).

Going to get some sleep.

But after being arrested it's game on!!!!

[EagleFan]

dola: I'm going to wait until tomorrow to decide where to work, once I see where we have everyone and what we need.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

dola: I'm going to wait until tomorrow to decide where to work, once I see where we have everyone and what we need.

Well if you can take everyone at face value then we have 3 gladhandlers at x3 so everyone should stay away from that as we should be able to take care of it.

[dubb93]

Question Abe, does the person who gets voted out still get to do work they said they were going to if they are a non wolf?

[EagleFan]

[quote=Passacaglia;2006187]Autumn is a hunter like me.

1. Poli Searching
2. Lathum Food Distribution
3. Passacaglia Hunting
4. dubb Gladhandling
5. claphamsa Gladhandling
6. ntndeacon x3
7. USFLTecmo Patrolling
8. TheNorm
9. EagleFan Food Distribution
10. Schmidty
11. Chief Rum Patrolling
12. DaddyTorgo Oratory
13. Danny Food Distribution
14. PurdueBrad Oratory
15. Autumn Hunting
[dead]16. path Treasury[/dead]
17. The Jackal Searching
18. RendeR Searching
19. Barkeep Treasury
20. jeheinz Gladhandling

This bugged me earlier. How do you know what Path did? He never mentioned from what I can see, just that it wasn't one of the day one tasks.

I ask this because of another question that someone posed which made me think of this post. The question was where do the sympathisers get the money for bribes. This popped into my head, thinking that path being Treasure may have been why he was targeted. Then I looked through path's posts and never saw him say he was treasury.

[Poli]

Off to bed. I'll take a job that is need of attention in the morning.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Question Abe, does the person who gets voted out still get to do work they said they were going to if they are a non wolf?

Work is done and Ousting occur simultaneously so all work is done.

[Chief Rum]

Man, 29 units was a tall order. Now we have to put up 32? That's just, well, nuts.

Patrolling ain't an option, so I'll just stick my one unit of work somewhere where it is needed.

[Barkeep49]

Work on the Treasury

Having the treasury skill I can disabuse anyone of the notion that it somehow relates to bribes.

[PurdueBrad]

This is an obvious one for me.

work on oratory

[claphamsa]

work on gladhanding

[Passacaglia]

[quote=EagleFan;2007296]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Autumn is a hunter like me.



This bugged me earlier. How do you know what Path did? He never mentioned from what I can see, just that it wasn't one of the day one tasks.

I ask this because of another question that someone posed which made me think of this post. The question was where do the sympathisers get the money for bribes. This popped into my head, thinking that path being Treasure may have been why he was targeted. Then I looked through path's posts and never saw him say he was treasury.

I went into how I arrived at that assumption earlier -- it may or may not be correct, but it worked for me to put it there. Basically, path said that his skill was one that was mentioned before, but was not useful for any Day 1 activities. At the time he said that, the only skill that had been mentioned that were not useful on Day 1 was Food Distribution and Treasury. Once Lathum revealed as the third Food Distributor, I took a hunch that there couldn't more than three (we had eight skills, so I assumed four skills had two people each, and four skills had three people each). Now that everyone else has revealed, I think it looks more likely that he was the treasurer, since BK was the only other one. As I said earlier, he could have been lying, but why would he lie about that as a villager, and every other skill has two people, so why not treasurer?

I'll dig up the posts where I explained this yesterday morning when I get to work.

[Passacaglia]

Augh, sorry -- my poor quoting skills in the intial post are carrying over through the whole chain. Blah.