WW - The Princess Bride (Game Over - Wolves Win)

[The Jackal]

Maybe polarized wasn't the right term, but people are definitely getting different reads. That doesn't say much to me right now, I just know I don't think he's one of the best candidates for today.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Maybe polarized wasn't the right term, but people are definitely getting different reads. That doesn't say much to me right now, I just know I don't think he's one of the best candidates for today.

Well I didn't vote him and don't plan to today, but have my eye on him

[Autumn]

*scratches the back of his neck*

[Narcizo]

I guess don't really buy the Autumn-Passa conversation as being wolf-wolf. But that's based on myself - there's no way I'd engage in something like that with another wolf were I a wolf. I don't think Passa would be completely adverse to it but I don't know if it's the sort of thing Autumn would go in for.

[Narcizo]

And when I say I don't know I mean that literally not in the sense that I don't think he would do it.

[Narcizo]

I don't think we're going to benefit from an NTN runaway but I suspect that that's what we're going to get today. And even if we don't I think wolves are going to be voting for him whatever he is.

[Danny]

Unvote ntn
vote telle

There is a good chance I will switch back, but I like the two as our candidates today and so making it 2-2 early should help make that happen

[Telle]

Well as others have guessed... yes I do indeed have the iocane powder.

[Autumn]

Well now we have to lynch you, just for the fun of it ;-)

[The Jackal]

Not in your favor that you waited until today to reveal that since most people did yesterday, but at least you fessed up.

[Telle]

Now I'm just trying to decide if I should keep it or pass it on to someone else. I prefer to hold on to it if I'm likely to be lynched.. but on the other hand I don't want to be a night target for the wolves if I don't get lynched.

[Lathum]

unvote Autumn
Vote Telle

not a fan of withholding info, it is never a good villager move

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Lathum

unvote Autumn
Vote Telle

not a fan of withholding info, it is never a good villager move

I didn't want the wolves targeting me in the hopes of them ending up with the powder.

[The Jackal]

They have more concerning issues, like three cleared players, one of whom is the seer, plus an unknown bodyguard (assuming fezzik is in the game, which I'm sure he is).

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Telle

I didn't want the wolves targeting me in the hopes of them ending up with the powder.

The odds of them going after you for that purpose seems very low to me, given the fact there were other roles out there already revealed

[Telle]

Still no reason to go putting a target on my back. And it's not like the information helps the village in any way.

[mauchow]

vote ntn
While telle should be looked at but it could have been as she said. I don't think a wolf comes out and says they have it. Do they?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

vote ntn
While telle should be looked at but it could have been as she said. I don't think a wolf comes out and says they have it. Do they?

If Telle was a wolf she could have claimed not to have it, meaning that one of us would have been lying or PF had won it and it had gone random, which is what a wolf who used it later could claim. But I don't think her claiming it should influence you much one way or another.

[The Jackal]

Because if she did get lynched today and we found out she had it and she won the battle of wits, she'd definitely get lynched tomorrow if she hadn't admitted to having it prior. This way she can at least say she told us she had it.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Because if she did get lynched today and we found out she had it and she won the battle of wits, she'd definitely get lynched tomorrow if she hadn't admitted to having it prior. This way she can at least say she told us she had it.

Actually, one of the rules of the powder is that your role gets revealed. Since mine wouldn't come up "wolf", there would be no reason for you to lynch me tomorrow.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Telle

Actually, one of the rules of the powder is that your role gets revealed. Since mine wouldn't come up "wolf", there would be no reason for you to lynch me tomorrow.

Oh, I hadn't noticed that. Was that in the original writeup? Nevermind what I said then.

[The Jackal]

That makes the iocane powder much, much less useful. My whole discussion about it on D1 was assuming the winner of the battle of wits wouldn't have their role revealed. Should've done closer reading. In fact the wolves would really only want to use that in an endgame scenario, or a seer-scan like Pass.

[Telle]

Iocane Powder - Odorless and tasteless, but one of the deadliest poisons known to man. If the holder of this item is lynched he may challenge one person who voted for him to a battle of wits. The one who drinks poison will be killed. If the original lynch target (the holder of the powder) survives his role/allegiance will still be announced.

Here's what's on the main page.

[The Jackal]

Much less useful for the wolves, that is. Great for a villager, especially since they know they won't be challenging the seer. Would hope it wouldn't set up a showdown with Fezzik if Telle was the one to be lynched, but that's about it.

[The Jackal]

Right so if the chalengee wins, they won't have their role revealed, which makes sense. But I was assuming it would be a very useful tool for the wolves by them escaping a lynch and not having their role revealed, and that mechanic isn't in place. So, yeah.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'm thinking NTN and Telle are my prime candidates at the moment. Both have been dogmatically sticking to lines of reasoning that are ok on day one but which don't really hold up when there's a lot more stuff to consider. Bug just seems too over the top to be a wolf. Don't remember if he's been a wolf in a game recently and how he's acted in that case.

I try to play every role different. Of course, I have probably played about 30 games of werewolf and my side has never won. Kill me, the village loses.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I don't have the iocane, fwiw. I guess obviously, since I selected wheelbarrow.

I think the best avenue today may be to go back to NTN. He's just about disappeared, which could be a wolf just hoping to lay quiet and let people talk themselves into mistakes. Since we know we don't have a scan of our leading vote guy from yesterday, lynching him today seems the best measure.

just about disappeared? that may be overstating it. Just got away from the computer for a few hours before sleeping in late is all.

[ntndeacon]

Telle you might as well hang on to it. the only folks you could trust with it would not be lynched anyway.

[ntndeacon]

Vote Telle

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

That was just in about the span of a half hour, and it's EF's fault for goading me into rhyming, really.

But you did it so freely...

[The Jackal]

This could present us with an interesting situation if Telle was lynched and challenged NTN. Would give us a chance to find out both of their allegiances.

[ntndeacon]

at least having a chance to add to the circle of trust seems a worthwhile thing. If she wins then we KNOW her allegiance and another possible is gone, if not it gets rid of a another potential wolf.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

But you did it so freely...

My nerves are steely

[The Jackal]

Look, over there! That horse-drawn carriage is doing a wheely!

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

This could present us with an interesting situation if Telle was lynched and challenged NTN. Would give us a chance to find out both of their allegiances.

I just assumed I would be challenged at this point. but I would be more than happy to forgothe opportunity and let a more lupine individual take my place.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Look, over there! That horse-drawn carriage is doing a wheely!

Wasn't the friend of Tony Nelson Capt. Healey?

[Telle]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

This could present us with an interesting situation if Telle was lynched and challenged NTN. Would give us a chance to find out both of their allegiances.

Ummm.. I'm really not liking this plan

[EagleFan]

As of post 887:

Telle 4 - CrimsonFox (816), Danny (857), Lathum (862), ntndeacon (879)
ntndeacon 3 - The Jackal (846), Autumn (849), mauboy1 (867)

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Wasn't the friend of Tony Nelson Capt. Healey?

We're not in space anymore, we're in the Florin Sea and it's sounding eely..

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

We're not in space anymore, we're in the Florin Sea and it's sounding eely..

The shreiking eels? is that where you are going? Really?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

The shreiking eels? is that where you are going? Really?

whoa whoa whoa, don't be so touchy feely

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Telle

Ummm.. I'm really not liking this plan

I think it has merit myself. Look at it this way - at least everyone will be hoping that you win the battle of wits.

I don't think we should get on Telle's back about not revealing that she didn't have the powder. There's really no reason for her to come out with the info if she's a wolf, except to try and get some trust.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I try to play every role different. Of course, I have probably played about 30 games of werewolf and my side has never won. Kill me, the village loses.

You see ... What? Why?

[Narcizo]

I know I said I could never get a good read on Lathum but he's really starting to ping me. Am I the only one seeing a possible Lathum-NTN connection?

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I think it has merit myself.

Well, it would have had merit... except that I am Fezzik, the bodyguard.

[Narcizo]

Fair enough. I'll buy that unless there's a counter. Sort of good luck/bad luck there. Bad luck that you were forced to reveal but good luck that having a role clears a suspect player.

[The Jackal]

Well I feel pretty good about my vote. If there's no counter this is probably going to be a runaway though.

[Narcizo]

I'd be shocked if NTN isn't a wolf if Telle is telling the truth.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'd be shocked if NTN isn't a wolf if Telle is telling the truth.

be prepared to be shocked then

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well I feel pretty good about my vote. If there's no counter this is probably going to be a runaway though.

Don't think there's any way to avoid that really.