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Old 05-02-2007, 08:30 PM   #851
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So, Barkeep, Chief Rum, Swaggs, NTNDeacon, BrianD, Path12, Hoopsguy& Mr W have not said any roles but, BrianD outed Kwhit, Hoopsguy was asleep when Kwhit was converted (and so was Tyrith so, couldn't be Hoopsguy), DT Vouches for Chief Rum, Barkeep was blocked so.. if we are to believe everyone's role at this time that leaves...

Swaggs, NTN, Path12, MrW...

did it just not matter that I vouched for path? he has a role and I have seen it used in my dreams.
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:32 PM   #852
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It makes me a little nervous that this role speculation always leads towards Mr. W. Seems too easy.
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:34 PM   #853
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so we're down to Mr. W then if that's the case. Seems very easy...
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:36 PM   #854
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Path, for what it is worth we should have a better idea tomorrow on MrW.

If Lathum sleeps him he won't be able to convert. The remaining Shadow would be living very dangerously to think about converting MrW. So if he is around tomorrow he would probably move close to the front of the list in terms of trust. Or at least that is how I view it if we have two Shadow tomorrow and no good leads. Hopefully we don't find ourselves in that spot ...
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:38 PM   #855
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So, Barkeep, Chief Rum, Swaggs, NTNDeacon, BrianD, Path12, Hoopsguy& Mr W have not said any roles but, BrianD outed Kwhit, Hoopsguy was asleep when Kwhit was converted (and so was Tyrith so, couldn't be Hoopsguy), DT Vouches for Chief Rum, Barkeep was blocked so.. if we are to believe everyone's role at this time that leaves...

Swaggs, NTN, Path12, MrW...

As I have said, I am the Wizard.

And, I can prove it by turning over a member of the Sun, because I found one last night with my night action.
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:42 PM   #856
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I still plan on hexing Mr. Wednesday tonight.

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Old 05-02-2007, 08:47 PM   #857
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I am the warlock, btw. Duh.
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:51 PM   #858
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Then we shall see what tomorrow brings. My night actions are in.
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:58 PM   #859
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For the record, I'm mailing it in from here on out. I'll vote with hoops unless people scream at me not to, likely.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:08 PM   #860
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:11 PM   #861
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Well Lathum is taking the #1 suspect tonight, I'm trying to figure out who to go for as well. It won't be Barkeep as I know first hand I blocked him last night. BrianD is living off of his reveal of Kwhit and thats it. Ntn is pretty adament about Path's innocence. DaddyTorgo is fairly strong about Chief Rum, Hoopsguy was asleep on night 1 when Tyrith was also asleep...

So if its not Mr.W then someone's off on their trust of someone else.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:15 PM   #862
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we should make sure we have Mr. W blocked then so he can't convert (if someone can do that type of thing). So that we don't end up with another person converted.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:21 PM   #863
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we should make sure we have Mr. W blocked then so he can't convert (if someone can do that type of thing). So that we don't end up with another person converted.

umm. I already sent in the order to put him to sleep.

am I missing something?
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:26 PM   #864
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I think if Mr. W is lying about being the sorcerer
I've never claimed to be the sorceror. In fact, aside from confirming that I do have a magic role, I've refused to reveal what it is, or what I've been doing with it.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:30 PM   #865
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No, night 1 we both targeted KWhit. Which was a mistake, in retrospect, but at the time I was thinking that 50 percent wasn't a sure conversion, and we wanted to concentrate to make sure we got someone.

How was it a mistake? I mean, it obviously would have been better if you'd chosen to target someone else, but the real problem (from the Shadow point of view) is that KWhit was nailed immediately — you weren't going to get more than one conversion under any circumstances.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:40 PM   #866
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I'm on that list. Looking at that list I'm somewhat hesitant to reveal when it feels like the two seer roles are there. If I reveal my role it seems to give the Shadow a better chance of getting one of those roles. If people feel strongly in my doing a role reveal, I will, but I'd really rather not.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:50 PM   #867
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sorry lathum. Just making sure it's done, that's all.
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:55 PM   #868
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I wouldn't think it'd matter at this point barkeep.

tyrith said the last shadow was the artificer, right? So we know that. And we have a pretty good idea of most people's roles. If we don't block the last shadow and get him tomorrow and he fails to convert then I think we do it since we can have him on the block. If he gets a conversion it's a bit murkier but probably still a good play, as it wouldn't hurt.

But a lot of people have abilities or tools that can discover roles. So we could still hit on it that way
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:59 PM   #869
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Just to make sure we're all on the same page:

I'm blocking CR, Lathum is blocking Mr. W, right? Who is Alan blocking?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:00 PM   #870
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Well Lathum is taking the #1 suspect tonight, I'm trying to figure out who to go for as well. It won't be Barkeep as I know first hand I blocked him last night. BrianD is living off of his reveal of Kwhit and thats it. Ntn is pretty adament about Path's innocence. DaddyTorgo is fairly strong about Chief Rum, Hoopsguy was asleep on night 1 when Tyrith was also asleep...

So if its not Mr.W then someone's off on their trust of someone else.

I am not the artificer. I'll say it again tomorrow during the day if anyone the signifier wants to verify that statement.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:05 PM   #871
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I'm not the Artificer. Swaggs would have had the opportunity to out me as that if it was my role. He has stated that I do not hold one of the two Cult roles that are sympathetic to the Shadow.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:10 PM   #872
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The person who knows my role would reveal me if I were the artificer.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:12 PM   #873
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Barkeep, coming back to your point on the "role for good" not in the game - any more to say on this point? Has the role you referenced been claimed by someone?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:14 PM   #874
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Tyrith, can you provide some insight on your role?

1. What power did you have as Sorcerer?
2. How was it enhanced by being with Shadow?
3. Were you the original Shadow or the 2nd one?
4. How much communication did you do with the other Shadow via the secured channel? Based on that communication were you able to make any guesses as to who the player might be?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:14 PM   #875
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Barkeep, coming back to your point on the "role for good" not in the game - any more to say on this point? Has the role you referenced been claimed by someone?
Definite follow up but I'd like to see how tonight shakes out before commenting. The conditions might be right for me to explain more about this tomorrow.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:17 PM   #876
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Will do on commenting tomorrow, although a conversion tonight upsets the trust apple cart a fair amount. If it is anything that could help with this evening I would encourage talking about it earlier rather than later. But it is your role, your knowledge, and as such I won't push too hard on this point.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:20 PM   #877
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Will do on commenting tomorrow, although a conversion tonight upsets the trust apple cart a fair amount. If it is anything that could help with this evening I would encourage talking about it earlier rather than later. But it is your role, your knowledge, and as such I won't push too hard on this point.
Understood, though my information isn't changing, though of course your trust in me to present it might.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:08 AM   #878
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The night passes peacefully for the most part, with many of you sleeping in the same room. There are no major disturbances during the night.

When you wake, the Seer informs you that the Shadow Count is 1.

Also, because a couple of people asked, everyone slept in the Ritual Room except the following players - Joe, Chief Rum, Swaggs, Lathum, Barkeep49, and Schmidty.
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:40 AM   #879
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:11 AM   #880
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What happens when your magic role is blocked? Because I think mine was last night, and wanted to confirm. I guess that would confirm what BK said he could do, although I wish he had switched to someone less vouched. My role helps the cultists, and I couldn't use it last night.

But that might also be for other reasons I am not aware.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:17 AM   #881
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If you role is blocked, and you try to use it, you'll be notify that something is blocking you.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:22 AM   #882
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If you role is blocked, and you try to use it, you'll be notify that something is blocking you.

Thanks. How weird then.

Theory #2. My target has a way of avoiding me. I will have to review the roles to see if there is a fit.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:26 AM   #883
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Another question. Would I know if a potion or item was used on me?

If not, then I have a guess what happened, although it runs contrary with what I believe this person said he would do tonight. I will have to review his posts to be sure.
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Old 05-03-2007, 04:41 AM   #884
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For the record, I ended up blocking Hoopsguy last night with my power. I also used my one time per game ability to search through Mr.W's stuff but found nothing. I also obviously slept in the ritual room.

I'm assuming that Lathum's blocking Mr.W is what kept our count at 1.. Can anyone confirm he's our guy?
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:22 AM   #885
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Last night I searched for the triune pyramid, but was unsuccessful.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:30 AM   #886
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Since we are still at one Shadow today, I'm comfortable talking about my role and why Chief may have had some difficulties acting on me.

I'm the Elementalist. That whole ability to move between rock and stone means that I'm not the easiest guy to target with actions, as is noted in the role description about being able to avoid the Ritualist. I took an action last night to search the Kitchen, but slept in the Ritual Room (as noted already by Peregrine). Those actions are consistent with what I have done every night so far - I have searched the Kitchen - although last night was my first time sleeping in the Ritual Room.

I also observed someone acting against Mr. Wednesday and struggled to identify them, but believe (not 100% certain) it was Alan T.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:32 AM   #887
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Never mind, re-read of posts show that Alan acted against me, not Mr. W.

So I don't have anything to tell Chief about his experience. But I did not receive any notification that Alan blocked my power. As Elementalist, I don't really have a power, except freedom of movement. Alan, did you get any kind of notice that you successfully blocked me?
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:34 AM   #888
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Argh - re-post one more time.

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Never mind, re-read of posts show that Alan acted against me, not CHIEF RUM.

So I don't have anything to tell Chief about his experience
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:47 AM   #889
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Never mind, re-read of posts show that Alan acted against me, not Mr. W.

So I don't have anything to tell Chief about his experience. But I did not receive any notification that Alan blocked my power. As Elementalist, I don't really have a power, except freedom of movement. Alan, did you get any kind of notice that you successfully blocked me?


Just like yesterday I am told that I use my power to block you. It doesn't tell me anything of the effect or results, just that I use it for that. Also your comment about observing someone acting against Mr.W, I already stated that I used my once per game ability to do both my role + a mundane action to also search Mr.W while he slept. He didn't have anything on him that I found however. So if you saw that, it probably was me searching him while he slept soundly.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:47 AM   #890
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Those actions are consistent with what I have done every night so far - I have searched the Kitchen

What are you looking for.. Pizza?
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:48 AM   #891
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Hoops, how do you know that Chief tried to use his role against you last night? I didn't see him say that in his posts.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:49 AM   #892
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Other than a good nights sleep, nothing odd happened for me last night.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:50 AM   #893
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Something I would love to understand better today is what Barkeep meant that one of the better roles wasn't in the game. So far I don't see anything to steer us away from the 18 people = 18 roles listed
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:51 AM   #894
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I misread the poster - he had two in a row and then you said that you used your role against me. I thought it was a third Chief post in a row, then saw it was you who posted that.

Based on my PM, I had zero knowledge of people trying to use a role against me. So I was not told that my role was blocked, as Peregrine indicated in replying to Chief Rum. That was my state of mind when replying initially, then I re-read the posts and realized it was you who set out to use their role on me, not Chief Rum. Posting hilarity/stupidity ensued.
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:51 AM   #895
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Other than a good nights sleep, nothing odd happened for me last night.

You used your protection of the room like you said right? Did you not have any information from stuff that occured within it? I was under the impression you had a higher chance of spotting it while protecting the room?
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:53 AM   #896
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What are you looking for.. Pizza?

Just figured it was a room that was less likely to have competition searching for items. I don't know how the mechanic works, but if there is only one item per room per night or something like that I figured it would be better to limit the competition when searching. And the Kitchen seemed like the least likely room to search out of those listed, so I've searched it every night.

No Potion of Deep Dish to report
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Old 05-03-2007, 06:58 AM   #897
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You used your protection of the room like you said right? Did you not have any information from stuff that occured within it? I was under the impression you had a higher chance of spotting it while protecting the room?

Yes, I did use my role and there was nothing else that happened or anything that I noticed.

(I'm not sure if the protection helps everyone notice things better or just me though)
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:01 AM   #898
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Yes, I did use my role and there was nothing else that happened or anything that I noticed.

(I'm not sure if the protection helps everyone notice things better or just me though)

Didn't help me notice anything different. As with every other day thus far, I haven't been given any info in my PM other than basically repeating what my request that I sent in was. So I'm pretty oblivious to everything going on around me I guess.
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:03 AM   #899
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Just to clarify any confusion, the blocking ability will block someone's magical role and they will be notified if they use it, but if they didn't use their magical role they won't know that anything happened out of the ordinary.
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Just to clarify any confusion, the blocking ability will block someone's magical role and they will be notified if they use it, but if they didn't use their magical role they won't know that anything happened out of the ordinary.

Based on this then I would guess your role isn't very magical Hoops!

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