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#851 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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It's kinda scary how many dukes are left, honestly
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#852 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #851) EagleFan (3)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844) fontisian (3)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807) Yet to Vote: timmae, Raven, EagleFan, britrock88, Narcizo, MrBug708
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#853 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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The math is probably fine, I just noticed he wasn't on the list. |
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#854 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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#855 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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This seems like it could be an interesting vote.. which is better than yesterday
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#856 | |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Lisboa, ME
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Excellent addition. That had slipped my mind. But EF's play completely blocks font from taking a shot at someone until tomorrow at the earliest.
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#857 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
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We probably want a third option. Ideas?
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#858 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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Which, since I was her target, I know to be a pro-village move. I think it's possible EF's story is the truth, he hasn't been following along as closely and maybe didn't buy the blocked kill story, which many of us didn't at first. Unfortunately, killing someone it seems the wolves are also trying to kill doesn't give you a great look.
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#859 |
College Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Chicago
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Vaimes took a shot to clear possible villagers. EF took a shot on a known duke which cost us a villager.
vote Eaglefan
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#860 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
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Known duke does not equal known villager.
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#861 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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#862 |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Lisboa, ME
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Self preservation much?
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#863 | |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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He was clearly not the Cultist because he Duked. If he was a wolf, he would not have been targeted by wolves, so bg would not have saved him. If he lied, he is a wolf. A scan would have revealed it, unless he was Cunning. So the only reason to lie would be if he was Cunning. |
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#864 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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#865 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
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I gave reasoning and was shouted down. Right about now I've got nothing. I trust only Autumn so far.
Don't turn your back on font. |
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#866 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2006
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I hate this game. What a waste of a lot of my day.
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#867 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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#868 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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#869 |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Lisboa, ME
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Shut up, you love it.
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#870 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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vote EF
Pretty much guessed MartinD was a villager but it was my first time playing with him and didn't think he was bold enough to be a wolf. |
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#871 |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Nashville
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I think I'm staying where I am. I could go with EF, but haven't been convinced to come off font, either. The duke/hunter analysis above makes me think there's going to be a duke today in any case.
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#872 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Hats off to the bodyguard. Dunno how you called that. I really don't want to vote or even think about this. For what its worth (very little) I think I believe Eagle. I don't see why a wolf-Eagle takes that shot. Why draw attention to himself? I can see village-Wolf doing it. Then again I couldn't see village-Martin duking to Vaimes. So what do I know? Also if the wolves think Martin was the bodyguard why didn't they just night kill him again? Absolutely no reason for them to expose themselves just to take him out.
Reasons why wolves tried to kill Martin a) Prove his innocence so wolf-font doesn't have to be killed b) Assuming he was going to duke to a wolf, thus clearing himself. Probably wolf-Autumn. c) weird stuff that apparently the bodyguard has insight into but I don't. |
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#873 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #871) EagleFan (5)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844), timmae (859), MrBug708 (870) fontisian (3)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807) Yet to Vote: Raven, EagleFan, britrock88, Narcizo
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#874 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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I'm not totally thrilled at the group of people voting for EF with me at the moment..
Any thoughts, brit/raven? |
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#875 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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The most obvious answer just hit me in the face. Wolves kill Martin because they figure he's the least likely to be protected by the bodyguard. We're having to stretch ourselves so hard to figure out why he would be killed ... maybe that's why he was killed.
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#876 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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Interesting take, Autumn
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#877 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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I would add D) trying to hit the cultist, suggesting a wolf-font. E) Trying to avoid the bodyguard. F) Thinking he was seer, suggesting a villager-font. |
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#878 | |
Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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I could go along with your area sons but I want to hear more explanation from EF. Maybe he'd just trying to kill off Dukes? |
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#879 | |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Lisboa, ME
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You want to hear more from EF on this, but why are you giving him a potential explanation in the process?
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#880 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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Seems very antivillager then
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#881 | |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I'm still processing all this. Looking for some motive. I realize I need to move on this quickly, because time is ticking. I don't know why EF would target Martin, when he was arguing with font directly. He could have easily realized that Martin was likely not a wolf based on the previous NK actions. I have pretty much spelled out why Martin was most likely not a wolf. Only thing I can come up with is that EF targeted a known Duke so he wouldn't kill himself if targeting a hunter. (Which others are also saying). But that of course puts EF in the spotlight. IF EF was a wolf, only reason he would be OK with spotlighting himself is if he was Brutal? Which means wolves would (potentially) get 3 kills today (Martin, EF's Brutal kill at lynch, and a NK). |
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#882 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Third day of this, so you all should be used to this now... I am headed to lunch! Be back in an hour.
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#883 |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Thinking about it some more, EF being Brutal doesn't make sense to me.
Assume we started with 3 wolves. That means 3 wolves and 9 villagers remain. If EF was brutal, it seems too early to spotlight himself. Otherwise he gets possibly lynched and takes out someone with him, then wolves NK tonight. (All this assuming no Dukes). That then leaves 2 wolves and 7 villagers. Just seems too early for that play to be used by the Brutal. |
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#884 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA
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I pretty much stated my reasons. Thought I was going to look really good with that move but instead I put as all further behind the eightball. I put the request in last night and thought I would see good news this morning.
It was a screw up, big time. I will try to get it on from my laptop if I can. |
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#885 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Jan 2006
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So we're currently 8:3:1 I guess. If we miss then we're probably 6:3:1 unless we have MVB evah. If the wolves have all their powers left we're boned. That alone would explain Eagle taking the kill. Maybe they're playing endgame already. As the village is whittled away there's increasingly more chance of the wolves getting items.
I can't see a third candidate emerging. Dunno who it would be anyway. If we lynch village then the seer and bodyguard probably should reveal tomorrow, if they're still alive. And the vote should be left in the hands of any cleared that emerge. If the seer is a hunter he might want to make his best shot as early as possible. Of the two on the table I'll vote fontisian |
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#886 |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Madison, WI
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Sorry to be totally absent--been swamped at work.
Nothing leaps to mind to explain EF's shot at Martin other than the explanation he gave us--which is that he was just reading Martin as bad and wanted to take his chance. The time lag between order and execution may mean that information we're taking for granted was not something EF had to rely upon in deciding to use his shot. Not that I mean any of this to be exonerating. At this point, our track record with hunters' shots makes me wary of our continued use of them. Font is, for her part, on the warpath to shoot Autumn. I'm not terribly fond of the idea. vote Fontisian |
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#887 |
High School Varsity
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central Minnesota
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that puts us at 5/5.. with two votes remaining
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#888 |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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EF and I are the two remaining votes then...
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#889 |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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And since EF will def vote font and if I vote EF then I create a tie. So my only vote (unless someone switches), will be to vote font.
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#890 |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I am assuming the Cultist knows who the wolves are?
If I vote Font, and font ends up Wolf... Grover, timmae, The Jackal - are the wolves and cultist. MrBug is the only other possibility, but he voted font on day1. If EF is a wolf. The wolf/cultist possibilities are Shoveler, cheeki, Autum, britrock, Narcizo. Since EF will be voting font, my hands are tied... vote fontisian |
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#891 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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Don't discount the possibility of wolves voting wolves, Raven, either when it doesn't matter or when it's a runaway. It's a common strategy to earn trust later. That's actually why I suspected JAG early on day one because I thought he might have been putting a vote on a possible wolf cheekimonk only to take it off later.
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#892 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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Especially when the odds of a duke happening are pretty high no matter what .. that's why I was saying on D1 that vote analysis won't be as useful this game.
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#893 | |
College Prospect
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I'm not including runaways, so don't think that applies here. |
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#894 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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#895 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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I'm back. Doing a vote tally.
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#896 |
Pro Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Madison, WI
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#897 |
Head Coach
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bath, ME
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No EF vote. That bodes well that he is probably just a villager.
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#898 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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I mean, if we're in a tie, I generally can't in good conscience support that
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#899 |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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Seems like it's 6-5 for font
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#900 |
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Day Three Vote Tally (as of Post #895) fontisian (6)-- cheekimonk (799), Autumn (806), Shoveler (807), Narcizo (885), britrock88 (886), Raven (890) EagleFan (5)-- The Jackal (815), fontisian (821), Grover (844), timmae (859), MrBug708 (870) Yet to Vote: EagleFan
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