Official 2010-11 College Basketball Thread

[cartman]

Texas stays unbeaten in Big 12 play, holding off a tough Baylor squad 69-60. Lacedarious Dunn got unconscious in the 2nd half, and just went off the last 10 minutes of the game. The lead got cut to 4 at one point, but Texas was able to get a couple of key stops and hit the majority of their free throws down the stretch.

[whomario]

Cleveland State Guard Norris Cole had a 40/20/9 games today, hope they make the tournament as from what little i´ve seen the guy is great to watch (and has season averages of 20.3/5.6/5.3)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Of course they may not hold the winning streak for long as they travel to rival Winthrop tonight.

But they did. Congrats.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

But they did. Congrats.

Thanks! Yeah it was scary for a while, down 8 at half, but came back to score 41 in the second to eek out the win. Glad to be past that hurdle, its likely the only big one left till the Big South tournament.

[Logan]

For the Mizzou guys...Keon Lawrence was kicked off the Seton Hall team yesterday.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Logan

For the Mizzou guys...Keon Lawrence was kicked off the Seton Hall team yesterday.

Saw that this morning. Kid had SO many chances. He was a very good player, but the demons in his past just kept him from reaching his full potential. Sad to see.

[mauchow]

Congrats to Kansas for holding onto the #1 spot for a day. A week actually, I guess. Pullen had an amazing game.

It was somewhat expected to see a close game wit KSU possibly winning but not this possible 20 pt blow out even if they are missing one of their players.

[mauchow]

It's a 16 pt game right now. I'd like to see Douchebags (ksu coach) reaction if Kansas made it a game again and pulled out the win. I may pay money to see that.

[Logan]

You're the #1 team in the country...you're representing it well by getting shellacked by 16...you convert an alley oop, so it's time to scream in the face of your opponent and earn a technical. Awesome.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Logan

You're the #1 team in the country...you're representing it well by getting shellacked by 16...you convert an alley oop, so it's time to scream in the face of your opponent and earn a technical. Awesome.

Exactly..

It's a great night.....

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

KSU needed that game badly to get back into the running for a NCAA tourney spot. It'll be interesting to see if they can win the games down the stretch that they need to win to get back on track given their rollercoaster level of play thus far.

[Thomkal]

And sadly the winning streak is over for Coastal Carolina. So close to making the top 25 for the first time in school history and they lose to a 8, now 9 win Gardner-Webb team at home. Now they will really have to win the Big South tourney to get in to the NCAA's.

[panerd]

I guess this is probably mostly for Mizzourah and MBBF but did anyone else catch the Doug Gottlieb nonense during the Mizzou-Texas tech game last night. That had to have been the worst idea in the history of televised sports. Sure... minimize the game to half the size so I can watch him direct the game. Wow ESPN is really becoming a joke.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by panerd

I guess this is probably mostly for Mizzourah and MBBF but did anyone else catch the Doug Gottlieb nonense during the Mizzou-Texas tech game last night. That had to have been the worst idea in the history of televised sports. Sure... minimize the game to half the size so I can watch him direct the game. Wow ESPN is really becoming a joke.

It was pretty painful. I'm hoping that 'great' idea dies after that debacle.

[MizzouRah]

I missed the game sounds like that was a good idea.

[jbergey22]

Im unclear as to why Ohio St was replaced by Kansas in the #1 spot in the first place. Didnt even realize it until I came into this thread and seen it mentioned.

Lets see Ohio St loses by 4 at one of the toughest places to win at in college hoops while Kansas gets beaten badly on their home court and are 2nd in their own conference??? I would have left Ohio St #1 but if I had to choose a different team I would have chosen the team that beat Kansas on their home court.

Voting=Stupid

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Just an addition to what Panerd was commenting about. There were several ESPN experiments this week that ended up being spectacular failures. I don't know who the brain-child was that thought up all this crap, but it didn't go well at all. I've seen reports that they received tens of thousands of negative e-mails on these changes.

Hopefully we've seen the last of ESPN's ill-conceived skycam - The Dagger - NCAAB* - Yahoo! Sports

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

And sadly the winning streak is over for Coastal Carolina. So close to making the top 25 for the first time in school history and they lose to a 8, now 9 win Gardner-Webb team at home. Now they will really have to win the Big South tourney to get in to the NCAA's.

And it just gets worse for Coastal. Not only did they have their winning streak broken, they lost their starting point guard for the rest of the season with a torn MCL. And on top of that-their leading scoring Holloway has been ruled temporarily ineligible and cannot play. No one is saying what's going on with this, but Coastal is appealing to the NCAA and depending on how serious it is, the issue could be resolved in a matter of hours, or could take several days/weeks. And if Holloway is ruled ineligible, it may put their entire season in the dumpster.

Coastal is now down to 8 players, 7 scholarship and one walk-on yet still managed to score 90 points and beat non-Big South conference team North Carolina Central by about 40.

[cartman]

I think Texas is going to be in a fight today at Nebraska. The Huskers have played very well at home, and this will be a final chance for them to stick it to Texas before heading to the Big 10.

[Radii]

Three top 10 upsets so far today, Nebraska over Texas, St Johns over Pitt, and WVU over Notre Dame. Mizzou gets their first road conference win finally against Iowa State.

I feel like I'm being punished for something sitting here watching Boston College/UNC. UNC broke 20 with 40 seconds left in thehalf, BC didn't score for over 7 minutes and didn't hit 20 until there were 7 seconds left in the half. 21-20 tar heels, the lowest scoring totals for both teams in the first half all season. UNC is shooting 33%, Boston College 28%. UNC is even making it worse by shooting under 50% from the line(2-5). Surely the second half will be better.

[General Mike]

Rutgers down 1 at Syracuse with 4 minutes left

[Radii]

UNC leads 45-32 with 7:30 left. They make one jumper and one free throw t he rest of the way, barely hanging on for a 48-46 win. This is the lowest point total in a win for UNC ever in the Dean Dome. Ah well, a win is a win.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Rutgers down 1 at Syracuse with 4 minutes left

tough loss in OT. Damn refs and their 41 to 15 free throw disparity

[MrBug708]

You do realize that a FT disparity is no indication of whether or not the refs called a good game, right?

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

The Big East is stacked this by year. Ive been following the conference more and more over the past five years, but this is the best top to bottom its been in awhile.

As a follow up, so far today:

St. John's upset #4 Pittsburgh, 60-59.
West Virginia upended #7 Notre Dame at Morgantown, 72-58.
#9 Georgetown is up by "only" 8 points over second-to-last in the Big East South Florida midway through the second half.
#14 Villanova escaped Chicago with a 77-75 overtime victory over DePaul (1-13 record in the Big East).
#20 Syracuse eeked out an overtime win over unranked Rutgers, 84-80.

There really are no easy games in the Big East this year. The conference tournament is going to be verrrry interesting.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

You do realize that a FT disparity is no indication of whether or not the refs called a good game, right?

Umm, when they don't call a foul in OT to keep Syracuse's center in the game, and then the same thing happens 20 seconds later and our center fouls out, they called a bad game. If you watched the game you would know it was an abortion.

[Swaggs]

I had a great time at the WVU/Notre Dame game today. We took our 18-month old (and he was generally haywire the entire time, as per usual), but we got lucky while walking him around the concourse and won $100 of lottery tickets and, I think, probably sealed up an NCAA bid (unless we totally flake out) with the win.

[Lathum]

Huskies lost a heartbreaker to Arizona today. Romar is quickly becoming a great recruiter who can't coach.

[Young Drachma]

Nice win by St. John's, Lavin has them back.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Huskies lost a heartbreaker to Arizona today. Romar is quickly becoming a great recruiter who can't coach.

Romar had some good in-game adjustments. I think he can coach, I don't think he can teach

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

You do realize that a FT disparity is no indication of whether or not the refs called a good game, right?

No, but I think it's usually correlative much more than people want to admit. Yes, if there's an outside shooting team vs some inside bangers, there will be a disparity. However, you're going to have to work really hard to convince me that a 30 FT difference is a fair game.

SI

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Umm, when they don't call a foul in OT to keep Syracuse's center in the game, and then the same thing happens 20 seconds later and our center fouls out, they called a bad game. If you watched the game you would know it was an abortion.

If you had watched say, any, of Syracuse's previous games you'd know it was friggin' sample size.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Romar had some good in-game adjustments. I think he can coach, I don't think he can teach

I think the two go hand in hand.

what I have seen from them, especially this year, is we blow out teams less skilled and athletic then us based on out talent. Then when we play against well coached teams with higher IQ players we struggle. And almost all those teams have less talent, WSU, Oregon and OSU. We should be beating those teams by double digits, not losing to them.

Look at the results against the better teams on the schedule. Lost to KY, lost to MSU, lost to A&M, lost to 'Zona. But I bet we win by 40 against Seattle U Tuesday night ( I hope so, I'll be there)

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

No, but I think it's usually correlative much more than people want to admit. Yes, if there's an outside shooting team vs some inside bangers, there will be a disparity. However, you're going to have to work really hard to convince me that a 30 FT difference is a fair game.

SI

Possibly. In the UCLA-SJ game, St Johns was getting beat to the basket and they were hammering UCLA and sending them to the line. UCLA didn't play the best ball under the basket on the defensive side and St. Johns had a layup drill it seemed. Depends on how you play and how hard you play.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by cartman

I think Texas is going to be in a fight today at Nebraska. The Huskers have played very well at home, and this will be a final chance for them to stick it to Texas before heading to the Big 10.

What else do you see in that crystal ball?

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Nice win by St. John's, Lavin has them back.

Will he have them back next year when he loses everyone?

[Swaggs]

St. John's will struggle next season, just due to the physical jump it takes for freshmen to play in the NCAA. But, as long as they have Gene Keady on the bench, they are going to be pretty strong. He is one of the best tacticians around -- it is hard to believe he agreed to come back.

[mauchow]

who's #1 after those slew of top 5 losses??

[Radii]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

who's #1 after those slew of top 5 losses??

Ohio State clearly right? I am starting to wonder if there are any more slipups anywhere if San Diego State or BYU could get 1 seeds in the NCAA Tournament.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Radii

Ohio State clearly right? I am starting to wonder if there are any more slipups anywhere if San Diego State or BYU could get 1 seeds in the NCAA Tournament.

After losing to Purdue today? I'm guessing Kansas or Duke is #1 when the polls come out, with Ohio State #3.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I think the two go hand in hand.

what I have seen from them, especially this year, is we blow out teams less skilled and athletic then us based on out talent. Then when we play against well coached teams with higher IQ players we struggle. And almost all those teams have less talent, WSU, Oregon and OSU. We should be beating those teams by double digits, not losing to them.

Look at the results against the better teams on the schedule. Lost to KY, lost to MSU, lost to A&M, lost to 'Zona. But I bet we win by 40 against Seattle U Tuesday night ( I hope so, I'll be there)

I definitely think Romar is a better recruiter than tactician. I think Romar scores well as a recruiter, and pretty good as a developer of talent. But his in-game strategies are not top-notch - his staff definitely misses having Ken Bone and Cameron Dollar around. Romar will need to think carefully this off-season about the make-up of his staff.

All that said, as someone that's been a life-long Husky fan, I think he's earned an incredibly long leash given what he's done for this program. I think he's clearly the best Husky coach in the modern era, better than Harshman, and ranking right up there with Hec Edmundson (though really hard to compare given the vast differences in eras).

I know that his success has spoiled some fans who now expect to see this program getting to the Final Four, and while of course I'd love to see that as well, as long as he's getting to the Tournament nearly every year and competing for the conference title, I'm good with him.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

After losing to Purdue today? I'm guessing Kansas or Duke is #1 when the polls come out, with Ohio State #3.

oh shit, i was working and completely oblivious, I should have known to look at the scores for today.

1. Kansas
2. Duke
3. Ohio State
4. San Diego State
5. Texas
6. BYU
7. Pitt

?? I have no idea!

[sterlingice]

It kills me that we don't see how good Purdue might have been because of Hummel's injury. Definitely would have been a top 5 team.

SI

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Radii

oh shit, i was working and completely oblivious, I should have known to look at the scores for today.

1. Kansas
2. Duke
3. Ohio State
4. San Diego State
5. Texas
6. BYU
7. Pitt

?? I have no idea!

...Arizona?

[panerd]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

...Arizona?

Kenpom has them #16. The PAC-10 just isn't very good this year. (He actually has Washington higher than Arizona)

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by panerd

Kenpom has them #16. The PAC-10 just isn't very good this year. (He actually has Washington higher than Arizona)

Yeah, UW exposes the one flaw in efficiency rankings: the team that 1) blows everyone out in its wins but 2) can't win a close game and loses more than a few of those.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Radii

oh shit, i was working and completely oblivious, I should have known to look at the scores for today.

Honestly, I wasn't sure if you knew about that or not. I'd almost guarantee that we'll find impassioned arguments that tOSU is #1 regardless of the loss today, I wondered whether you were making the first one.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

...Arizona?

They're #12/#13 in the polls this week. Why would they jump to the top 7?

[Radii]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Honestly, I wasn't sure if you knew about that or not. I'd almost guarantee that we'll find impassioned arguments that tOSU is #1 regardless of the loss today, I wondered whether you were making the first one.

I think you can make a reasonable case for any of the current top 5 teams at this point. I don't have a passionate argument for or against any of them, I see what you were saying though, I know some people do

[Butter]

Don't understand why Kansas is above Texas. Based on the quality of teams lost to though, I would still put Ohio State at #1. Their 2 losses have come to the other 2 Big Ten teams to not lose at home all season, and both were top 20 teams when they lost. Texas has the Nebraska loss now, and Kansas got creamed by K-State.

Not only that, but it took Herculean single-game performances by players on each of the teams that beat OSU to win the games. E'Twaun Moore with 38 points, and Jordan Taylor with his unconscious 2nd half. Even so, the Wisconsin game could've been had, but no one was beating Purdue yesterday.