Werewolf CXXX - Rudyard Kipling's The Jungle Book - SEEONEE WOLF PACK WINS!

[bhlloy]

DOLA - J23 could be a good vote, just to clear up the first couple of days a bit more. He was the leader for a while on day 2 but there was a pretty strong reaction from some key players (led by Telle) that a vote for him made absolutely no sense and we went in another direction. Obviously if he shows up as wolf then those people look really, really bad.

[mckerney]

On the vote for J23, not liking his voting record with voting for a presumed villager day one and confirmed villager the next two days, and Bug with a throwaway vote on him on day two certainly raises suspicions.

[J23]

Originally Posted by mckerney

On the vote for J23, not liking his voting record with voting for a presumed villager day one and confirmed villager the next two days, and Bug with a throwaway vote on him on day two certainly raises suspicions.

Yes, if only EF had left Bug around for a while longer, he could have led us to all of his fellow wolves!

[hoopsguy]

J23, while this reply makes me laugh I get the impression that you're pretty much in counter-punch mode this game. Since you clearly feel that you are not a good vote, who are you most suspicious of at this point?

[Zinto]

I am not opposed to any unknowns for today even myself since we are all mostly the same amount of suspicious. I guess my question would be should the seer reveal today or roll the dice on getting night killed(since clearly the wolves are seer hunting) to get an extra scan in.

[hoopsguy]

I don't think we are all the same amount of suspicious - some have more than others based on some of the votes that we've seen. But seer reveal should likely be predicated on the quality of information he has to provide today. If he's able to get himself out there as trusted, and bring along a couple of others who are pretty questionable right now, then it makes sense to come forward.

[Zinto]

I guess when I said the same amount of suspicious I should have said close to the same amount because that is where the majority of people are. I get what you are saying about the seer though.

[J23]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

J23, while this reply makes me laugh I get the impression that you're pretty much in counter-punch mode this game. Since you clearly feel that you are not a good vote, who are you most suspicious of at this point?

Other than you for still being alive?

I'm probably most suspicious of mckerney for playing under the radar most of the game but not really being called out on it. He had a vote on JAG by the end of day1, but it moved around a lot before landing there with not much time til deadline.

The other person I wanted to look at closer is Telle, who's vote seemed to seal the deal on mau on day2. I don't have much of a read, so I wanted to go back and look at the voting movement a bit more, but haven't gotten the chance yet.

[hoopsguy]

So are people just waiting around to see what the seer is going to do, or are people just bored/perplexed?

I'll be online for a sustained stretch this afternoon and I'm really hoping to have a couple of people around who actually want to, you know, talk about our voting options for today.

[Zinto]

I will be around for most of the day also and I am willing to discuss voting options with anyone who is willing to. I think I am going to go back and look at things since I am currently stumped other then trying to prod DV into more conversation(which if you can't get online more I apoligize Darth)

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by J23

Other than you for still being alive?

I'm probably most suspicious of mckerney for playing under the radar most of the game but not really being called out on it. He had a vote on JAG by the end of day1, but it moved around a lot before landing there with not much time til deadline.

The other person I wanted to look at closer is Telle, who's vote seemed to seal the deal on mau on day2. I don't have much of a read, so I wanted to go back and look at the voting movement a bit more, but haven't gotten the chance yet.

I suppose it is possible two wolves put votes on one of theory own, enough to put that wolf in at least a tie for third when they were planning to force a tie at the top and that the third place vote-getter could get killed as one of the tie breakers.

Though I'm not sure how voting in my own defense early and then moving it only once when I was no longer in danger and fairly certain my vote was on a villager can be considered moving around a lot. I'be moved my vote far more times in 5 minutes than I have this entire game.

[J23]

Originally Posted by mckerney

I suppose it is possible two wolves put votes on one of theory own, enough to put that wolf in at least a tie for third when they were planning to force a tie at the top and that the third place vote-getter could get killed as one of the tie breakers.

Though I'm not sure how voting in my own defense early and then moving it only once when I was no longer in danger and fairly certain my vote was on a villager can be considered moving around a lot. I'be moved my vote far more times in 5 minutes than I have this entire game.

I'm operating under the assumption that the wolves didn't know the tie mechanic. I'm not even sure they were trying for the tie w/ the vote manipulation. Also, he was tied for third place until Lathum switched to him right at deadline. I think it could easily have been another throw away vote, though the fact that it's on a cunning is the part that has me questioning it.

As for the vote moement, I was going off of memory. Taking a look, it moved from Zinto to Packer to JAG on the first day unless Narcizo's little breakdown isn't correct. It's less movement than I remembered, but not by much.

[EagleFan]

Quick thought but I think they were trying to get the Mrs. when they went after Thomkal.

The Mrs. might even be on my suspect list (I don't want to make it that easy for them).


Everyone should keep voting as it is a normal day, PF can duke to me and the mrs. will night kill the lynch target (unless the mrs. is the lynch target of course). You'll get a good vote history still and pretty much keep it like a regular day.

[EagleFan]

If the mrs. decides to out herself then there would be no need for PF to use the duke tonight.

The setback is that is then allows the wolves to use the change vote ability.

The results in the number of killed are the same but we control it a little better if we use the PF duking to me and allowing the mrs. to take out the lynch target.

[EagleFan]

Will check back in later. I am taking Kay to practice tonight so I will be out for some of the evening.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by J23

I'm operating under the assumption that the wolves didn't know the tie mechanic. I'm not even sure they were trying for the tie w/ the vote manipulation. Also, he was tied for third place until Lathum switched to him right at deadline. I think it could easily have been another throw away vote, though the fact that it's on a cunning is the part that has me questioning it.

As for the vote moement, I was going off of memory. Taking a look, it moved from Zinto to Packer to JAG on the first day unless Narcizo's little breakdown isn't correct. It's less movement than I remembered, but not by much.

Looking back at the vote summary I did move twice which is more than I remembered.

I also believe that the wolves didn't know the tie breaking mechanic and they were hoping it was kill both tied, but they had to third place was a possibility and they would make every move to minimize their risk. My vote put me and JAG in a tie for second, which could have been a disaster if we were both wolves, especially with only wolf votes on JAG. And although my vote on JAG was the second there was interest in voting for him if he were to pick up some votes, so I knew he could pick up some votes before the deadline, and its what I was hoping for because I didn't think we would get anywhere with PF or Zinto.

[bhlloy]

I do think the seer should reveal today, even if it's just to clear a few villagers. With the cunning gone, that's really valuable information that puts us close to a winning scenario.

Of course it's possible that the seer has less than 3 scans if he got unlucky and scanned a bunch of people that are no longer in the game. But if the seer can clear enough people, it's a no brainer to me. The alternative of the wolves getting lucky with their seer hunting would be very bad for the village, as we seem to have come to a place with very little to go on.

[Narcizo]

If EF has reason to believe that he wasn't protected last night then we definitely want a straight-forward vote with no duking. I'm happy with a DV-J23 vote off today. I think J23 is already attracting a fair amount of looks so I'll go the other way. I've been wrong every other day so I'd suggest you don't pay too much attention to me.

Vote Darth Vilus

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by J23

Other than you for still being alive?

I'm probably most suspicious of mckerney for playing under the radar most of the game but not really being called out on it. He had a vote on JAG by the end of day1, but it moved around a lot before landing there with not much time til deadline.

The other person I wanted to look at closer is Telle, who's vote seemed to seal the deal on mau on day2. I don't have much of a read, so I wanted to go back and look at the voting movement a bit more, but haven't gotten the chance yet.

Got to agree with Hoops that all you've done today is defend yourself. Natural enough when you're getting heat but you haven't once mentioned your thoughts on the EagleFan situation, for example.

Concerning Telle, her switch to Mau is only damning if you believe Autumn is a wolf. Otherwise, if anything, it makes me less suspicious of her - although I know she's clever enough not to make the obvious wolf move always (which would be to sit where she was and not draw attention to herself).

[Telle]

Wow, slow day today.

I'm good with a Darth Vilus vs J23 showdown.

And for the record, I was not defending J23 the other day.. I just thought it was senseless to vote for him on the premise that PF might be a wolf, instead of going straight for PF. Now that we know that PF is not a wolf, none of that conversation really matters anymore.

[CrimsonFox]

A new day dawns and you are still feeling hungry, not that the bananas didn't feel you up, but there's only so much fruit can do. You are definitely hungry!
Hungry like...

[WAIT FOR IT!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOg5VxrRTi0

Akela leads the hunt for some meat. Everyone is at your best. He leads you in running a circle around several species of some very succulent looking cranes: the Siberian Cranes, The Sarus Crane, and the Niles Crane. Mother Wolf charges in and snaps them up. The cranes go out quickly, the last of which shouting, "Not in the face!" and "Don't spill my latte!"

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You have a very satisfying meal and relax beside the pond. It feels good to unwind and take your mind off the fact that you will possibly be eaten by a tiger in the next day or two. You enjoy a leisurely swim and bask in the sun.

[J23]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Got to agree with Hoops that all you've done today is defend yourself. Natural enough when you're getting heat but you haven't once mentioned your thoughts on the EagleFan situation, for example.

I mentioned my thoughts on it last night right after EF's reveal.

I've been defending myself most days this game for some reason.

[Autumn]

I've been out, as well as perplexed. I don't think J23 is our strongest vote right now, so I'll either go Darth or another one of the poeple who haven't gotten votes yet. I still hope to get a chance to look back at their posts.

[CrimsonFox]

As of #873

J23 - EagleFan (840) mckerney (849)
Darth Vilus - Zinto (845) Narcizo (868)

[Autumn]

I'm okay with Darth as a candidate - as usual of late he's not posting enough to get any read on him, so could go in either way.

Out of the others I'm considering I would go with either Jackal or Mckerney. Bhlloy, Narcizo, Hoops and Telle all struck me as more villagerish in their posts than those two. I suppose Mckerney is active and posting enough that I'd rather put the heat on Jackal. Players who post are easier to read down the line.

VOTE THE JACKAL

[CrimsonFox]

Out for several hours. Hopping a bus. BBL. Get in night actions and such.

[bhlloy]

I like Jackal as a third candidate. He just doesn't seem to be playing his usual game this time around.

Vote Jackal

[hoopsguy]

At this point, I'm more voting for which voters I trust than any huge decision point between the three guys. Of the 3 with 2 votes each, I'll take my chances with EF + mckerney over the other blocks. Plus I think J23 has been active but kinda slippery - just getting more of a wolf vibe (in a bad wolf way) than I normally do.

VOTE J23

[The Jackal]

Feel free to vote for me based on my to this point not great votes or "gut feeling" or what not. But i said before the game my time would be limited until Wednesday, and even more if the cable company screwed up. And they did yet again! So I've been on the phone with them a lot, and still without Internet. So that's why I haven't been posting as much as usual, not because I'm throwing a wily slow play at ya.

Between J and DV I've gotten much less of a read off DV. I realize he hasn't had much time to be involved either, but if it's getting me votes I see no reason why he shouldn't get some either. I've seen him play like this as a wolf and roled villager, so hard to say.

The fact that we haven't had a seer reveal yet makes me think they've hit some combo of missing an order and scanning dead people or people we've pretty much cleared ourselves. But were still doing pretty well here so I guess they aren't feeling terribly pressured. I would hope they are using their judgement well.

VOTE DV

[Narcizo]

Nowt much happening here then. I'm off to bed - tomorrow is a holiday here and we're heading out to the countryside. Hope to get on tomorrow morning (my time) - otherwise I hope the dial-up works or I'll be in Jackal's boat except with an ancient phone.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm

[Darth Vilus]

sorry again, ithought iwould have nbeen up earlier for some discussion. I still have a little over an hour of free time so ill be around

[Darth Vilus]

I say we go with what eagle says, seems the most logical. PF dukes to Eagle and whoever the Mother Wolf is kills the lunch choice. that way we don't lose a day of voting and we can avoid losing Eagle and the Mother in one fell swoop

[Darth Vilus]

eagle has to be telling the truth because i can't see a single wolf advantage in his plan

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

eagle has to be telling the truth because i can't see a single wolf advantage in his plan

Father wolf isn't exactly a wolf can try to claim, so we may as well trust him on it.

[mckerney]

Plus unless the Father and Mother wolf weren't paying attention there's no way EF would still be alive if he were a wolf.

[Darth Vilus]

no yeah i trust him, that's what i meant

[CrimsonFox]

As of #884

J23 - EagleFan (840) mckerney (849) hoops (878)
Darth Vilus - Zinto (845) Narcizo (868) Jackal (879)
Jackal - Autumn (875) bhlloy (877)

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

If EF has reason to believe that he wasn't protected last night then we definitely want a straight-forward vote with no duking. I'm happy with a DV-J23 vote off today. I think J23 is already attracting a fair amount of looks so I'll go the other way. I've been wrong every other day so I'd suggest you don't pay too much attention to me.

Vote Darth Vilus

I wouldn't say that I was certain. Received a PM from CF with some added color to it. I may be reading too much into what he said though. I would feel better if we stayed with the duke plan at this point, just to play it safe.

Go figure, the first time I have ever been 100% trusted and I am asking to be duked to.

[EagleFan]

Will try a little more phone posting but will probably not say much more until I get back to the laptop later.

[The Jackal]

On my way to dinner and a concert, so I won't be around for the deadline. If I bite the dust so be it, there isn't much I can say besides what I said when I made my votes, and there doesn't seem to be much of a case on any of the 3 of us.

(in other news the tech came and didn't have the equipment to fix this new box or a new one to replace it so I get to wait around again for a few hours tomorrow, yay!)

[Darth Vilus]

Vote j23

I feel better about lynching him then jackal and i dont dare introduce another candidate when im in the running

[Darth Vilus]

i've got to head out now people. Good luck!

[CrimsonFox]

As of #894--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^

J23 - 4 - EagleFan (840) mckerney (849) hoops (878) Darth Vilus (892)
Darth Vilus - 3 - Zinto (845) Narcizo (868) Jackal (879)
Jackal - 2 - Autumn (875) bhlloy (877)

[hoopsguy]

Another day of little conversation and little movement.

[Zinto]

Yep which is probably no good for us. Either we have to scratch this whole process today or start tomorrow since this isn't working out very well.

[Zinto]

Well we still have four people who have yet to vote so we shall see. I am going to be on very sparingly after nine since I want to watch Michael Scott's last day on the Office and whatever is in store on Parks and Rec but I will check in whenever I get the chance.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Another day of little conversation and little movement.

Yeah - which makes me think we have the wrong people altogether.

VOTE TELLE

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Yeah - which makes me think we have the wrong people altogether.

VOTE TELLE

Don't worry DT, there is still time to get to you.

Well, not for me, but for them.

[EagleFan]

Nice first quarter for the Sixers.