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Old 09-18-2005, 10:19 PM   #851
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whatever

you are pushing hard for me to go, because you know it only helps the outlaws numbers. When we put RealDeal in jail it guaranteed a villager win.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:20 PM   #852
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whatever

you are pushing hard for me to go, because you know it only helps the outlaws numbers. When we put RealDeal in jail it guaranteed a villager win.

Right, I'm an Outlaw. You caught me!
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:22 PM   #853
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Right, I'm an Outlaw. You caught me!

thanks for admiting it now the villagers know who to hang next.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:25 PM   #854
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I will wait for Barkeep's deciding vote, and then decide the schedule from there-on out.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:29 PM   #855
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thanks for admiting it now the villagers know who to hang next.

Haha... that is so ridiculous. Do you really think I'm smart enough to concoct a plan to attempt a kill on myself but have myself be protected?

You're giving me too much credit, here...
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:30 PM   #856
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I don't think he's an outlaw, but I think that's more likely than Fouts not being the Sherrif. Therefore Vote SnDvls
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:31 PM   #857
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I don't think he's an outlaw, but I think that's more likely than Fouts not being the Sherrif. Therefore Vote SnDvls

thanks, it's official
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:34 PM   #858
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good job villagers, falling for another lie......






























well not really.

Dubb- nothing personal in the back and forth we did. It was part of the game and I had to.

Jeff, Fouts & RPI - I had to vote late it was dinner time here in AZ, but also to at least be active, I hate people who aren't active on these games weekend or not.

Thanks Neon it was fun.

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Old 09-18-2005, 10:35 PM   #859
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Jeff, Fouts & RPI - I had to vote late it was dinner time here in AZ, but also to at least be active, I hate people who aren't active on these games weekend or not.

WTF? At least own up to what you pulled -- a move. I'm not saying it's not part of the game and that you almost got our sheriff killed, but I am saying it is what it is.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:38 PM   #860
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WTF? At least own up to what you pulled -- a move. I'm not saying it's not part of the game and that you almost got our sheriff killed, but I am saying it is what it is.


it was a move, but it was also due to timing. it's 8:37 now the child is in bed and the wife watching the emmys. There really isn't anything more to own up to.

edit- I could have not voted or showed up and the tying vote would be between Fouts, Jeff & Mr. Wednesday, I believe

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Old 09-18-2005, 10:39 PM   #861
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it was a move, but it was also due to timing. it's 8:37 now the child is in bed and the wife watching the emmys. There really isn't anything more to own up to.

edit- I could have not voted or showed up and the tying vote would be between Fouts, Jeff & Mr. Wednesday, I believe

Fair enough... good try, now hopefully we can kill the rest of dem fuckers!
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:41 PM   #862
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Fouts - Passacaglia, SnDvls
SnDvls - jeff061, Fouts
Mr. Wednesday - RPI-Fan

Barkeep49, seeing the tied vote, finally decides. He walks over to SnDvls, "I'm sorry, but I have to do this." He points to SnDvls. "Hang him."

SnDvls is silent as he is taken to the gallows. He offers up a sinister smile. "You might think you can trust each other, but you know so little! Think well before killing off someone tomorrow... heh, heh, heh, At the end, the Outlaws will win."

You kick the barrell from underneath him, and let the rope and gravity do the work.

After SnDvls dies, you search his room. Bingo, a blood stained knife. It is without a doubt, SnDvls was an Outlaw!

IT IS NOW NIGHT 7, NIGHT ACTIONS DUE AT 9AM EDT.

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. hoopsguy - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 6
4. saldana - Outlaw, lynched Day 6
5. dubb93 - Witness, lynched Day 5
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22 - Villager, killed by Outlaws Night 5
16. SnDvls - Outlaw, lynched Day 7
17. Schmidty
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:42 PM   #863
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So we're 5-2, here. Not too bad, but we need to keep that leeway as we'll lose an extra villager when we get the Outlaw leader.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:46 PM   #864
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Here's where we stand:

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Passacaglia: I'd like to think he's clean, but his voting is shady.
RPI-Fan: Villager, clean.
Barkeep49: Clean.
Mr. W: Would love to hear his excuse for not giving us any help this w/e, if he's a villager.
jeff061: Who knows.
Fouts: Sheriff, clean.
Schmidty: SnDevil-ish

In short: two of jeff, Schmidty, Mr. W, and Pass.

I guess let's see how tonight plays out, then move on.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:49 PM   #865
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barkeep replaced bek
oops. I missed that.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:58 PM   #866
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Good night, guys. Hopefully I make through the night.

I have class at 8am tomorrow, but will be back at 10-ish. If I don't make it through the night (and I hope the Sheriff considers protecting me tonight), good luck all! My outlaw likelihook ranking is:

1. jeff -- Him and SnDvls coordinated a great little play there with jeff's "Notice how I'm not voting Fouts" comment.
2. Schmidty -- just like SnDvls.
3. Pass -- Some weird moves.
4. Mr. W -- Very quiet, but probably for legitimate reasons.
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Old 09-18-2005, 11:29 PM   #867
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Well I read that one wrong. Nice job to those who had fingered him!
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Old 09-18-2005, 11:47 PM   #868
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woohoo I'm on a hot streak
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Old 09-19-2005, 01:35 AM   #869
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Nice job guys, glad we bagged another one. Well done SnDvls, you almost squeaked through, I had to act fast on that 9pm vote.

I agree with your list RPI, should one of us go down, hopefully the rest can carry the torch.
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Old 09-19-2005, 01:50 AM   #870
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Old 09-19-2005, 01:57 AM   #871
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And here was what I was waiting to say. There were two guests in this for quite a bit. At 8:55 one left and SnDvl came in. I was waiting on the other one, no luck.

This statement has me questioning whether jeff is actually an outlaw. Could he have posted that as another way to "clear" himself? Is he that sneaky? He is good, but how good?

Now I'm not 99.5% sure on his being an outlaw. He had SnDvls targeted for awhile.

Lets build a case for the other guys under the microscope. We can assign some probabilities for each person.
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Old 09-19-2005, 04:55 AM   #872
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I've now lead to the death of two outlaws and that only makes me more suspicious.

I'm am going to continue and go down the list I posted 3 times and vote Schmidty tomorrow. He is guilty for the same reason Sundvl was. I am then either going to go for Pass or Wednesday, whichever one I get the most support on. If they are innocent I'll go for the other one the next day.

This is my plan to win the game, so far all I've been is right. I doubt we will find anything to sway me from it, but if anything we should look at schmidty. Not only is he equal to Sundvl in my mind, he hasn't done himself any favors by pretty much being non-existant.
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Old 09-19-2005, 04:58 AM   #873
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1. jeff -- Him and SnDvls coordinated a great little play there with jeff's "Notice how I'm not voting Fouts" comment.

Dude, I've now pushed for the death for two Outlaws before anyone was glancing their way. I mean what the hell? Should I push for an innocent to get you off my back? What more do I have to do? Quite stunning.

Not only was I not voting Fouts, I unvoted him the second he said he was Sheriff and did not delay, I was voting for Sundvl.

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Old 09-19-2005, 09:28 AM   #874
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BTW... since I think it's possible that the Outlaws didn't get their kill in time last night, I'd like to request that if they didn't have it by the deadline, it not be granted.

Us villagers had to hold to our deadline, why shouldn't the Outlaws have to hold to their's?
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:57 AM   #875
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BTW... since I think it's possible that the Outlaws didn't get their kill in time last night, I'd like to request that if they didn't have it by the deadline, it not be granted.

Us villagers had to hold to our deadline, why shouldn't the Outlaws have to hold to their's?

Except for Night(0) instructions, I have never allowed anyone (Oulaw or Villager) to exceed the timeline. And quite frankly, I'm hurt that you don't trust me to enforce the rules that I've posted.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:58 AM   #876
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BTW... since I think it's possible that the Outlaws didn't get their kill in time last night, I'd like to request that if they didn't have it by the deadline, it not be granted.

Us villagers had to hold to our deadline, why shouldn't the Outlaws have to hold to their's?

I'd assume that's what NC will do.

As for our day vote, I'm sorry if I've made some weird moves. I voted for Fouts because there was a lot of suspicion on him. As I was leaving, he claimed he was the sheriff. I figured there would be another dubb-saldana style shootout, by someone else claiming to be the sheriff. Sorry about that, Fouts. Jeff is clean in my mind, so I think we have to go after Wednesday or Schmidty. Schmidty was the spawn queen last game, and spent most of it being really quiet, just like this game.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:59 AM   #877
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I'm thinking he really just wanted a confirmation on whether the Outlaws were absent or not. If they were I think he backs off me a little .
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:01 AM   #878
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(As a side note, I'm pretty pissed off right now.)

You all wake up in the morning, expecting a dead body. And find everyone to still be alive. What could have transpired last night? You can only think of the best for your sake.

It is now Day 8, Votes are due at 9PM EDT.

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. hoopsguy - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 6
4. saldana - Outlaw, lynched Day 6
5. dubb93 - Witness, lynched Day 5
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22 - Villager, killed by Outlaws Night 5
16. SnDvls - Outlaw, lynched Day 7
17. Schmidty
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:03 AM   #879
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1: Schmidty
2: Wednesday

going by the activity level.

Vote Schmidty

Course now people will think this is a ploy by me . Assuming the Outlaws skipped a night(maybe two), pretty weak.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:10 AM   #880
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Except for Night(0) instructions, I have never allowed anyone (Oulaw or Villager) to exceed the timeline. And quite frankly, I'm hurt that you don't trust me to enforce the rules that I've posted.

I haven't played in many WW games... that's why I wasn't sure and wanted to see if there'd be a double standard.

Sorry to offend you, just wasn't familiar with the landscape.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:11 AM   #881
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I'm with you, jeff. Schmidty was online yesterday, and didn't do anything. Wednesday hasn't been on for a while, so I can understand his not posting more.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:13 AM   #882
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Wait, did the outlaws miss two nights?
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:13 AM   #883
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Vote Schmidty

Outlaws fail to attempt a kill again? That's retarded.

I think future games should be kept more in the 10-15 people range. N_C busts his ass to run the game, and then these Outlaw fuckers can't even hold up their small end of the bargain.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:13 AM   #884
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Wait, did the outlaws miss two nights?

They missed Night(2), or somewhere around there.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:16 AM   #885
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So not two consecutive nights? If so, then I would be thinking Wednesday. Then I'm with you guys.

VOTE SCHMIDTY
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:21 AM   #886
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I'm thinking it's likely both of them. If it's not then Schmidty is the last one. Only other possibilty would be if you are one Pass, and I don't see that being the case anymore.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:24 AM   #887
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I'm willing to end this game right now. This is ridiculous.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:57 AM   #888
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After several minutes of thinking, I have come to a decision.

I'm ending the game.

To those guys who were thouroughly active, I'm really sorry, but I can't devote time to it any more. Two unsent Outlaw killings is too much for me. Besides, it's pretty clear that Mr. Wednesday/Schmidty are busy with other things.

I don't blame anyone. Maybe the game has jumped the shark. I just feel that aside from a handful of solid players, there were a lot of things that didn't work, be it for personal reasons or something else. If there's someone I'd blame, it's myself. i really had high hopes for this game, and I probably aimed too high. Too many players, too generic roles.... bah.

I want to thank the guys who played the game well. I'm really sorry if I'm taking this away from you, but I can't really run a game when the Outlaws aren't able to send in a kill order for two nights. I've posted the deadlines in the rules in the first post, and I just hope people PM'd me if they had any problems meeting those deadlines (could easily have been negotiated).

Schmidty and Mr. W, I think, weren't able to send in PM's before the deadlines due to personal reasons. I understand, and perhaps it's my fault as well, not being able to be there on time for the votes to be counted. Bah. I guess I really screwed the pooch in running this game.

Villagers, good job in this game. You were solid in the mid-game despite the odds being against you, and practically attempting to kill off each other before you got SnDvls.

The Outlaws, I think, had this one in the bag. The Night(1) no kill hurt them big. They forgot to send in the kill order, and that hurt them. They could have won this easily if they were able to kill someone the first night, specially after the grand screw-up during the Day 1 voting.

Anyway... hope you guys had fun. I'm not sure if I'm ever going to run another WW game, too much time to invest and such. I will, however, gladly play again.

Player List:

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia - Villager
3. hoopsguy - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 6
4. saldana - Outlaw, lynched Day 6
5. dubb93 - Witness, lynched Day 5
6. RPI-Fan - Villager
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Barkeep49 - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday - Outlaw
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061 - Villager
14. Fouts - Sheriff
15. kingfc22 - Villager, killed by Outlaws Night 5
16. SnDvls - Outlaw, lynched Day 7
17. Schmidty - Outlaw Leader
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:01 AM   #889
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Schmidty was around yesterday, even checked out this thread I believe, he should of gotten something in.

Anyways, can I get a "Way to go Jeff for being so damn accurate about the identities of the Outlaws, sorry about the trying to kill you thing". .
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:05 AM   #890
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Way to go jeff -- but for the record, I never tried to kill you.

I hope it's not that werewolf games have jumped the shark. This is only my second one!
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:09 AM   #891
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Thanks for the game Neon. I had fun in the two days I was involved. I apologize for missing the voting deadline yesterday. I know how much work running a game is and wanted to give you a big shout out.
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:22 AM   #892
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Yikes, I've got 12 pages to catch up on in the thread.

Gotta go to class in 20 minutes, and I'm not sure I'll have caught up by then. I was absent for the weekend thanks to being generally busy anyway (home football game, which basically kills an entire day between tailgating before and being wiped out afterward), and my computer with a modem deciding to have the OS quit on me.
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:25 AM   #893
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heh, just read Neon's last post Wed, one day to late .
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:27 AM   #894
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hoops isn't worth going after... Mr. W should be our next target, IMO.
This I don't get at all. I've been 100% up-front about why I've been absent, I voted for the outlaw Saldana (twice! the second time, quite early!)... you've been after me since day 1. What's the deal?
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:27 AM   #895
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:29 AM   #896
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In the dubb/saldana vote, Mr. W voted saldana. That was a strategy our WW group discussed thoroughly last game (voting strategically for one of your own), so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he applied it there.
<boggle>

So now voting for the outlaw is going to be used against me? What's the deal here?

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Old 09-19-2005, 11:32 AM   #897
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Wednesday, read Neon's last post. We KNOW you are an outlaw .
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:34 AM   #898
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Mr. W.: read above. We know you were an outlaw. NC called the game.
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:39 AM   #899
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Dude, I posted while I was reading.

I had no idea that I would get screwed on trying to follow things the way I did, between general lack of time and computer failure. I should have anticipated the general lack of time due to moving, and I should have anticipated not having as much time at school as usual with family around helping out, but I underestimated both. Then the problem was compounded when I wasn't able to check in over the weekend because the computer with the modem (which has been quite unreliable of late, I've lived with it because it's not my primary computer) decided not to boot into Windows and I didn't have time to fix it.
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Old 09-19-2005, 12:23 PM   #900
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As I said in my PM to the other outlaws and to NC, my internet and cable TV dropped dead late yesterday and wasn't up again until about 45 minutes ago. It was frustrating that there was nothing I could do about it.

I hope that NC does run another WW game and doesn't quit just because of something like this. Again, I apologize.
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