The 2010 MLB Season Thread

[tyketime]

Don't tase me, bro...

[RedKingGold]

I applaud the decision to use tasers on these idiots. I made the (foolish) mistake of chance listening to Mike & Mike in the Morning to hear Golic argue against the use of a taser.

If you're stupid enough to run out onto the field, security should be able to use a gun if need be. Doing society a favor.

Yes, I feel strongly about this issue.

[lordscarlet]

The Braves are in town for the first series of a homestand for the Nats. Hopefully they (the Nats) rebound from their first losing streak in a while and keep some positioning in the division.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by molson

MLB's first on-field fan tasering (guess the city):

MLB needs to put a stop to that ASAP. Tasers carry a small risk of death and I don't think Selig wants to spend a few weeks doing damage control for an electrocution.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

MLB needs to put a stop to that ASAP. Tasers carry a small risk of death and I don't think Selig wants to spend a few weeks doing damage control for an electrocution.

A couple of examples of natural selection on the baseball field never hurt anyone.

[RedKingGold]

I'm too lazy to do the research, but I bet the potential for injury is much greater when an individual is physically tackled to the ground than when he is tasered.

[JPhillips]

Maybe, but the chance for death is considerably higher when tasered.

[miked]

Obviously they need to be really careful because all it takes is a crazy to come down on the field with a weapon...not like it's never happened in sports. The issue though is that tasers do carry a risk of death, and that this suspect was a minor. I can imagine it's also trickier to hit a fast(ish) moving target. What happens if some 16 year old kid gets tased in the face or something.

I'm all for the tackle, it actually makes it more exciting anyway

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by miked

I can imagine it's also trickier to hit a fast(ish) moving target. What happens if some 16 year old kid gets tased in the face or something?

What happens is that he'll think twice before jumping on the field and breaking the law again, and so will the thousands who watched it happen.

[Ksyrup]

What should be first? The first idiot/drunk/crazy fan tasered to death, or the first baseball player injured/killed by a crazy fan?

If I was a player, I think I'd expect my employers to keep me out of harm's way. I'm not sure you need to taser a guy if he's just running around and doesn't appear to be headed toward a player or have a weapon, but I think in today's world, the players should expect and demand something more than a keystone cops routine for 5 minutes.

[molson]

I don't feel bad for anyone running around on a field that gets tased, but the real enforcement needs to be on the punishment end. Lock him up for a year (if he has no criminal record, more if he does), he'll learn his lesson.

[miked]

I think as molson said, the real issue is in punishment. If people were charged with serious crimes and risked real jail time, it would cease (or fairly close).

[Logan]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I applaud the decision to use tasers on these idiots. I made the (foolish) mistake of chance listening to Mike & Mike in the Morning to hear Golic argue against the use of a taser.

If you're stupid enough to run out onto the field, security should be able to use a gun if need be. Doing society a favor.

Yes, I feel strongly about this issue.

I heard a piece of that discussion this morning also as I was getting ready for work, and found it amazing that Golic's main point was that people who do this tend to be drunk, and people don't think logically or understand the consequences of their actions when drunk.

I've done plenty of stupid shit when wasted, either to myself, to friends, to girls, whoever. But none of that has ever crossed the line to something illegal.

Just amazes me what we excuse.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by Logan

I heard a piece of that discussion this morning also as I was getting ready for work, and found it amazing that Golic's main point was that people who do this tend to be drunk, and people don't think logically or understand the consequences of their actions when drunk.

I'm no expert on criminal law, but our system is set up to permit intoxication as a partial excuse. For specific intent crimes, evidence of intoxication can be used to negate the required specific intent, resulting in a defendant being found guilty of a lesser offense (i.e., instead of murder, manslaughter). It is not and cannot be a complete defense to a crime, and cannot negate general intent (so it's irrelevant against an assault charge, for example). But partially excusing criminal behavior based on being in an intoxicated state has long been part of our system.

[JPhillips]

If you want to safeguard players you need to keep people away from the field in the first place. This guy had plenty of time to assault a player before he was tasered.

[Marmel]

Running on the field is a timeless tradition and you guys want to tase and lock people up??? What's next, ban court/field stormings?

[k0ruptr]

thats fucked up, the dude didnt need to be fuckin tasered.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Marmel

What's next, ban court/field stormings?

Couldn't happen soon enough for my taste.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

thats fucked up, the dude didnt need to be fuckin tasered.

He got what he deserved.

[Scoobz0202]

He's a lawbreaker. He should be shot in the head.

oh wait..

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

He got what he deserved.

+1

[JPhillips]

What percentage chance of death is appropriate for a misdemeanor?

[k0ruptr]

since people have died from being tasered before, and I know the chances are small and slim , but it has happened I wonder if this guy had been tased, gone into shock and passed away a few hours later would people be saying "he got what he deserved"?

he didn't have a weapon, he looks like he was just running around the field with a big grin on his face.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

since people have died from being tasered before, and I know the chances are small and slim , but it has happened I wonder if this guy had been tased, gone into shock and passed away a few hours later would people be saying "he got what he deserved"?

Wouldn't have bothered me one iota.
Cause of death should have been listed as: Stupidity

But the bedwetters would have come out of the woodwork without a doubt.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

since people have died from being tasered before, and I know the chances are small and slim , but it has happened I wonder if this guy had been tased, gone into shock and passed away a few hours later would people be saying "he got what he deserved"?

he didn't have a weapon, he looks like he was just running around the field with a big grin on his face.

Ok, if they did find a weapon on him after tasing him would people be saying they went overboard?

It can easily go both ways if you want to play the "what if" game.

[k0ruptr]

damn didnt realize it was only a 17 year old kid, damn he was a Minor.

[k0ruptr]

maybe we should just taser anyone and everyone who criminally trespasses, make it equal.

[Dr. Sak]

I wish he would've crapped his pants when he got tasered. Think of the embarrassment when he goes back to school.

[Atocep]

I'd be willing to bet there has been far more players attacked by fans than people that have died as a result of taser use.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Incidentally, at least if we're to believe the father of the braindead teen in question, "his son was not drinking and he wasn't on drugs."

I'm sure Penn State will be proud of this incoming freshman for years to come.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Incidentally, at least if we're to believe the father of the braindead teen in question, "his son was not drinking and he wasn't on drugs."

I'm sure Penn State will be proud of this incoming freshman for years to come.

Sak will support him.

[JPhillips]

Again, if he wanted to attack a player he had plenty of time. The taser in no way protected any of the players.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Couldn't happen soon enough for my taste.

Wouldn't have bothered me one iota.
Cause of death should have been listed as: Stupidity

Shocking responses. Are your posts just automated now?

[rowech]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Again, if he wanted to attack a player he had plenty of time. The taser in no way protected any of the players.

Snipers at every game!

[DeToxRox]

Bumped a thread on it but sad news today as Ernie Harwell has passed away.

[RedKingGold]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

maybe we should just taser anyone and everyone who criminally trespasses, make it equal.

Deal.

[kingfc22]

Back to baseball for a minute. Lincecum is dealing tonight with 10 K's through 5.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Marmel

Shocking responses. Are your posts just automated now?

Well the answers were obvious ... but so were the questions. Tough to separate the two things really.

[JS19]

Lincecum's performance tonight is really putting into perspective just how hard 20k's in a game is. Dude has 13 through 7... he can strike out the side in the 8th and 9th and still fall short. I feel this and Joey D's hit streak are 2 of the most underrated records out there.

[Scoobz0202]

Apparently a fan just ran out onto the field in the Phillies game

hahahahaha

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Apparently a fan just ran out onto the field in the Phillies game

hahahahaha

http://twitter.com/THETHOROBRED/status/13396289546

[kingfc22]

F'n bullpen just blew a second straight second for a Lincecum win. ugh!

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

http://twitter.com/THETHOROBRED/status/13396289546

Ha so this is legit?

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Ha so this is legit?

I got it from here...

The700Level.com - Philly Sports & Minutiae: A Copycat Takes the Field in Hopes of Being Tased

[MJ4H]

Yes it's legit. I was watching the game at the time. Threw the Phillies pitcher off just enough and let the Cards get a little rally going and they scored a run to tie it and send it to extra innings.

Taser the shit out of these idiots. How about this? You don't want to get tasered, don't go on the fucking field. No risk of death if you don't go jump in front of a fucking taser.

[k0ruptr]

so , this guy wasn't tasered? what the fuck? why was a 17 year old kid tasered and this guy not, he walked right to security, why didn't they taser him, if your gonna taser one guy on the field, taser them all don't fucking pick and select. thats bull shit. so who cares if he walked right to security, how do we know he didn't have weapon? (he could of been aiming to hurt or kill a security guard, or something) If people think a 17 year old might have a weapon, shit anyone could have one.

//I don't think anyone deserves tasering for this, but being selective is idiotic.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I would assume he wasn't tasered because security was told not to do so based on the hullabloo last night's tasering created.

[MJ4H]

Because the first guy was running around evading capture. The other guy just did it for the attention. They only tasered the first guy because he was being a little prick and running away from the guys trying to restore order.

Honestly, getting all up in arms about these dipshits who choose this dumbass path seems REALLY misplaced. Why not focus your outrage on people that aren't behaving little stupid assholes and still getting the shaft? There are plenty of those.

[k0ruptr]

yep he was evading capture, but its happened tons of times before why start the tasering now, thats what i don't get.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

How quickly we forget what has happened in the recent past.........

Father, son attack Royals first-base coach Gamboa - MLB - CBSSports.com