Werewolf: The Rebirth (Game Over! Thank you for playing)

[Zinto]

We need a way to protect our generator and it seems like building the government building next will help us accomplish this. If we don't have a way I would be surprised if it is not the next thing to be sabotaged and we will have to spend a day repairing it.

[fontisian]

Project Government
Effort Next Build

[Shoveler]

Unvote - Research Center
Vote - Government

[timmae]

Do not let him die... Unspeakable option in my mind. One now.. Another one down the road... Then another. We need as much help as we can get. I would say put all docs on him I need be.

My understanding is scientists test theories, engineers design items and bodies build. Ef can confirm..

[Chief Rum]

Project: Medical Center
Effort: Next Project

I don't think I need to say anything about where to assign me, as font seems to agree my spot is with Schmidty.

I should say, based on my skills, I don't have much other use, as I am no better than average at anything else, and frankly, I am worthless at Engineering.

[timmae]

If need be.

[Suicane75]

Just FYI, I'm above average Physical but not a powerhouse, I like to think of myself as a Regan type, circa 1980.

[Chief Rum]

Schmidty checked in, so it's not like he doesn't know the game is going. It's odd that he's not around at all (although not entirely inconsistent with his past behavior).

[Suicane75]

Project: Goverment

[timmae]

For what it is worth I think that the solar collectors were out before we even arrived. We will need to continually assess what the stowaway may be affecting as things go along. EF has mentioned the heat source a number of times... I have a feeling that it may not necessarily be bad... Almost like we need to know more about this item in order to survive.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by DanGarion

"Here is a comprehensive list of people that have the skills to do the biodome" - conveniently leaves me off list because I have the skills as them. Um... ok.

I don't see any quote where I ever claimed it was comprehensive.
My original quote after listing the names was simply this -

Originally Posted by Raven

I'd suggest we pick our 3 BioDome workers from this group.
I think we've agreed that the skills most likely required would be Engineering and Physical strength.
If we want to go heavy on Engineering (Danny & Jackal?) but both come at the cost of physical strength.
If we want to go heavy on Strength (bitrock & JAG?), but comes at the cost of Engineering.

[Raven]

I see the point in not committing valuable resources to a MIA Schmidty.
However, we could for the time being keep him around. If he remains SOS, we could at the very least send him on easy missions like resource gathering, or use him as cannon fodder at some point.

But if you do decide to let him die - I got first dibs on his pillow and his cheese and crackers rations.

[Raven]

typo ^^ If he remains MIA, not SOS

[timmae]

This is like a bad b movie... 1 day and we are already talking about sacrificing the weak.. Lol.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Schmidty checked in, so it's not like he doesn't know the game is going. It's odd that he's not around at all (although not entirely inconsistent with his past behavior).

I am morally corrupt.

I hereby apologize for being timid!!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I am morally corrupt.

I hereby apologize for being timid!!

Be sure to vote so that EF doesn't drop a meteor on your head.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I am morally corrupt.

I hereby apologize for being timid!!

I take back that whole thing about letting you die! You're here. Let's patch you up.

[JAG]

By my count we're at 9-9 gather supplies and next project.

[timmae]

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) MEDICAL (BELOW AVERAGE), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), SCIENTIFIC (AWFUL) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - PHYSICAL (GOOD), retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – SOCIAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD?) , SCIENTIFIC (BELOW AVERAGE) , automechanic,
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (OK), MEDICAL (OK) PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharkN20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), PHYSICAL (AWFUL), professional gamer that used my life to develop your skills
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD?) computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (AWFUL) worked in ER
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), SCIENTIFIC (BELOW AVERAGE)retired Army general. primary concerns safety
shoveler - Private investigator
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), PHYSICAL (AVERAGE) 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), pHYSICAL (AVERAGE), MEDICAL (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE), SOCIAL (BAD)
Schmidty

[timmae]

My take is that we are ok with supplies for another day... we can send some people out to gather supplies tomorrow.

[Shoveler]

What can we expect in the event of a tie?

[Grover]

I would assume that the Fontisian gets to break the tie.

[timmae]

possibly doing neither well. I'd rather we choose one or the other than be stuck with both.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by timmae

My take is that we are ok with supplies for another day... we can send some people out to gather supplies tomorrow.

I don't think it would be quite that simple since EF stated we might have shortages D1+2 if we go that route, but regardless I'd rather deal with a possible temporary food shortage in order to have the possibility of protecting our biodome (which should end food problems maybe?) and power supplies in the future.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

[color="Red"]Skills

Medical - This will be used when trying to heal players, the better the skill of the lead doctor the better the overall success of healing or treating, as well as the combined average of anyone working in that facility

Engineering - The greater the value, the more effective the designs for the various projects

Physical - The greater the number the player will be able to perform physical tasks better

Scientific - The greater the number of the lead scientist, the greater the discoveries, the average of those working in the scientific research facility will be used as well

Social - The greater the number, the higher the likelihood of "influencing" certain votes

Based on this, it seems like even without a research facility we should have the opportunity to make discoveries, we would just get more total 'science points' (maybe close to double) with a facility. Likewise we can just about double our effective healing with a medical facility assuming we have good people working there. It's not stated above, but it's possible we could have some opportunities for defending without the government set up, but it would just be less effective, however it's not as clearly spelled out as above.

[Shoveler]

Looking at the map I'm not certain where these supplies we are supposed to gather are located. There is no indication of where the first colony ship crashed other than a "sighting" location and a "heat source" over the mountain range to the East.

We do not have a medical center built yet, if we send some of us over the mountain range to the "sighting" location (assuming that is the first colony site), we risk losing people to mountain climbing injuries we are not prepared to handle.

Going for supplies at this point feels like it would be a mistake.

[JAG]

I feel like I've posted a ton and CF still has nearly double my posts. The man still has it.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by timmae

My take is that we are ok with supplies for another day... we can send some people out to gather supplies tomorrow.

where did you get that take?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by JAG

I feel like I've posted a ton and CF still has nearly double my posts. The man still has it.

[saldana]

can we please stop posting the JPEGS...they make it alot harder to follow the thread on smartphones or tablets

[CrimsonFox]

I really don't see where making a government is more important than survival, food, medicine, sciencem etc at this point. I can only think that there are people that have secret goals for wanting such. Illuminati here we come...

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by saldana

can we please stop posting the JPEGS...they make it alot harder to follow the thread on smartphones or tablets

[Grover]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I really don't see where making a government is more important than survival, food, medicine, sciencem etc at this point. I can only think that there are people that have secret goals for wanting such. Illuminati here we come...

Agreed. I don't get this either. Structure is cool and all, but survival? That's even cooler.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I really don't see where making a government is more important than survival, food, medicine, sciencem etc at this point. I can only think that there are people that have secret goals for wanting such. Illuminati here we come...

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I too was going to urge government over research or medical facility, but I have a new concern since I am sheriff-security. EF has not mentioned to me that such a facility exists for us to build, but if one does, it would give us a jail, ways of tracking people, and perhaps weapons? I'm not sure we can go out and explore the screaming we heard unless we have some way of defending and attacking if need be. Thoughts?

We definitely should fix the comms sooner rather than later.

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Hope everyone feels better quickly EF!

I've had some clarification from mod about my security station question, so I will:

vote government facilities

I definitely think research/med center are important, but we may be needing a way to protect/investigate sooner rather than later.

Off for a bit.

Originally Posted by Thomkal

okay off for real this time, but wanted to make sure you understand why I'm voting for govt creation-I believe that doing so will either give me powers or options to build things I will need if I'm going to be able to do my job as sheriff and keep you all safe.

Illuminati that.

[Suicane75]

To me supplies= health

Everything else can be accomplished eventually, bad health will eff us up.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I really don't see where making a government is more important than survival, food, medicine, sciencem etc at this point. I can only think that there are people that have secret goals for wanting such. Illuminati here we come...

CF,

Normally I would agree with you, but in this game a Government from what I know about it, will let us do things to help keep everyone safe-and perhaps help Font lead better. Things like the National Guard if this was being done on Earth as an example.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

CF,

Normally I would agree with you, but in this game a Government from what I know about it, will let us do things to help keep everyone safe-and perhaps help Font lead better. Things like the National Guard if this was being done on Earth as an example.

safe from what? rocks?

[CrimsonFox]

I think what I'm sensing is people think we're playing chaos spawn and are all paranoid and we aren't. This is eagle's game whatever it is. WHile I"m sure there may be monsters and such to come, that doesn't mean we can't take care of them. We don't need a government to defend ourselves or to shoot things do we?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

To me supplies= health

Everything else can be accomplished eventually, bad health will eff us up.

But the thing is we don't know for sure if we will need those supplies or not-as EF said earlier not getting supplies MAY result in food/water shortages. I'm willing to take the risk to get something we WILL definitely need than something we may not need. And hopefully the bio-dome will be ready to go after today and that possibility will be moot.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

safe from what? rocks?

you do know that we had a stowaway right? And someone could have survived that crash that wants to kill us all too?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I think what I'm sensing is people think we're playing chaos spawn and are all paranoid and we aren't. This is eagle's game whatever it is. WHile I"m sure there may be monsters and such to come, that doesn't mean we can't take care of them. We don't need a government to defend ourselves or to shoot things do we?

You haven't seen any guns yet have you?

[EagleFan]

As of post 941

Project
Research Center 8 - Narcizo (674), Grover (729), The Jackal (736), Sharkn20 (768), CrimsonFox (770), saldana (846), timmae (847), Danny (898)
Government 7 - Thomkal (758), JAG (765), britrock88 (842), Zinto (900), fontisian (902), Shoveler (903)
Medical Center 2 - Raven (851), Chief Rum (905)
Fix Communications 1 - Autumn (844)
No Vote 1 - Suicane75 (884)

Effort
Next Build 11 - Autumn (763), Narcizo (812), JAG (824), timmaee (847), Shoveler (854), Thomkal (863), Danny (898), Zinto (900), fontisian (902), Chief Rum (905)
Gather Supplies 8 - Sharkn20 (806), CrimsonFox (811), The Jackal (814), britrock88 (842), saldana (846), Raven (851), Grover (883), Suican75 (884)

Biodome Workers
Grover - appointed by fontisian
saldana - appointed by fontisian
JAG - appointed by fontisian
Grover 6 - Crimsonfox (813), JAG (820), Grover (825), Narcizo (828), britrock88 (842), The Jackal (848)
saldana 6 - CrimsonFox (813), JAG (820), Grover (825), Narcizo (828), britrock88 (842), The Jackal (848)
The Jackal 4 - JAG (820), Narcizo (828), The Jackal (848), Raven (851)
Raven 2 - CrimsonFox (813), britrock88 (842)
Danny 2 - Grover (825), Raven (851)
JAG 1 - Raven (851)

Medics for Schmidty
Chief Rum - appointed by fontisian
Autumn - appointed by fontisian


Yet to Vote
Schmidty, ntndeacon, GoldenEagle, DanGarion

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I think what I'm sensing is people think we're playing chaos spawn and are all paranoid and we aren't. This is eagle's game whatever it is. WHile I"m sure there may be monsters and such to come, that doesn't mean we can't take care of them. We don't need a government to defend ourselves or to shoot things do we?

Do we have guns though? I think if our law enforcement is empowered by the government building we should build it. I am worried if we can't protect buildings we will be in a perpetual fix what is broken cycle.

[Grover]

I am really starting to question Thomkal's motive. He is so big into the government thing so HE can do more. It sounds like the sheriff security role is a guise for wanting more power. Retired military does not mean honorably discharged or retired. I am very hesitant in moving forward with the government project until all other systems are in place.

I don't trust the way this is beginning to look with all of his pushing and pressuring.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Grover

I am really starting to question Thomkal's motive. He is so big into the government thing so HE can do more. It sounds like the sheriff security role is a guise for wanting more power. Retired military does not mean honorably discharged or retired. I am very hesitant in moving forward with the government project until all other systems are in place.

I don't trust the way this is beginning to look with all of his pushing and pressuring.

The real question is what do you get out of having the research center built next? We know Thomkal gets a bonus for the government building. What do you get as the head engineer from the research center?

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Zinto

The real question is what do you get out of having the research center built next? We know Thomkal gets a bonus for the government building. What do you get as the head engineer from the research center?

Nothing at all. I pushed for what I wanted and I've gotten it. Biodome was my immediate priority and the crew agreed with yesterday's voting.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

You haven't seen any guns yet have you?

no but how is having a government going to get us guns?
I would think we already had them.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Grover

Nothing at all. I pushed for what I wanted and I've gotten it. Biodome was my immediate priority and the crew agreed with yesterday's voting.

I find it difficult to imagine that you don't have some kind of role that is wrapped up in the research facility. Will it make you as difficult to deal with as a corrupt sheriff? Probably not since his role implies that he can enforce the laws as he sees fit.

[JAG]

I feel pretty ok about Thomkal myself, as much as anyone. I think he's pushing an agenda he feels more confident will bring gain to the colony than others, even though it helps him personally as well.

[Grover]

The only interest I have in the research center is that I have a good scientific background. Creating a Biodome was my priority. I've accomplished that. Now I want timmae and his science group to be able to study Mars like never before.

There is nothing in it for me to my immediate knowledge.