07-01-2024, 03:25 PM | #901 |
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At least one of Biden, Trump, and Hillary is better than historically bad.
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07-01-2024, 03:26 PM | #902 |
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07-01-2024, 03:28 PM | #903 |
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and here Bernie is out in Wisconsin campaigning for Biden like bulldog. I love that guy. Oh what could have been. But people would be saying the same things.
Seriously 4 years ago...everything being discussed NOW was OBVIOUS 4 years ago. Were they seriously not worried? Were they thinking...oh we'll just put a new candidate in in 4 years. Well here we are. They didn't do that. And he didn't do that. |
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They're coming out of the woodworks now. CNN is reporting below but I refuse to listen to the video clip vs. just read ...
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So went to the ever reliable DM. Assume it's reporting similar to the CNN video. Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein claims Biden's staffers have witnessed up to 20 'marked incidence of cognitive decline and physical infirmity' in the ailing president in the last 18 months | Daily Mail Online Quote:
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07-02-2024, 09:13 AM | #905 |
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Vanity Fair posted a picture of RFK Jr. posing with a barbecued dog carcass.
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07-02-2024, 10:27 AM | #906 |
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I said it after the debate. His performance is a national security risk.
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07-02-2024, 10:29 AM | #907 |
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07-02-2024, 01:46 PM | #908 |
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07-02-2024, 01:58 PM | #909 |
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This is not good....
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07-02-2024, 01:58 PM | #910 |
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I think Bidens biggest weakness is that his sexual assault allegations were unfounded and he pushed back too hard against them instead of wearing it like a badge of honor.
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07-02-2024, 03:46 PM | #911 |
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It'll take a semi-miracle for him to come back from his Stockdale moment. But then, that did happen in 2019 with South Carolina. So, there is hope. I don't have regular TV, but if not already, he needs to be appearing at public events, take questions, maybe appear on Sun talk shows etc. to show that the Jun debate was an aberration. Do several of these successfully and then maybe many of supporters & undecided will be somewhat mollified. |
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07-02-2024, 04:27 PM | #913 |
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I saw on Twitter he's doing an interview with George Stephanopoulos on Friday but it's not live. And I guess he's taking questions from the press next week. He should have been out there today. If he can't do these things then withdraw.
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07-02-2024, 04:27 PM | #914 |
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Positive performances from here on out might make the debate performance questionable in some people's minds, but each appearance is also a risk that he stumbles and makes things even worse. Is that really a risk you want to take, over and over again with an 80 year old who has speaking problems by default?
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07-02-2024, 04:45 PM | #915 |
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If he was fine mentally, they would have had him do a long press conference and going out on all the Sunday talk shows. It would have immediately calmed people down and ended any talk of replacing him.
The fact they can't do that is a clear sign he is not mentally fit. And the scumbags in his administration who continue to lie to people about it are helping usher in Trump. You can thank them all when this is over. |
07-02-2024, 06:52 PM | #916 |
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He has to perform "normally" every time out. No room for another "McConnell freeze" moment. It's just not going to happen.
And then there's the unfortunate fact that he can't appear ... 81 years old? There's a shot of him at the rally the day after the debate, when pretty much everyone says he was so much better, where Dr. Jill is speaking and he's standing there, staring off into space, mouth ajar. You know, like old people - even those who have their shit together - sometimes look. It's viral moments like that that are going to stick in peoples' minds and reinforce the idea that he's now Debate Biden 24/7.
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This shit is really scary.
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07-02-2024, 08:54 PM | #918 |
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Holy crap. There's no chance, but it would be crazy:
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07-02-2024, 08:57 PM | #919 |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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We've had news items on multiple local channels, plus articles in local papers, nearly every day about Andy Beshear jumping into the race.
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07-02-2024, 09:45 PM | #921 |
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Trump is a really weak candidate thatl I bet a lot of people will throw their hat in. Seen people hyping up Shapiro and JB was on CNN earlier.
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07-02-2024, 10:16 PM | #922 |
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I still haven't heard a good response to how the Dems explain to African-American voters why they passed over Kamala for a white guy.
Trump's team is probably already working on statements responding to that possibility. The Democrats might lose no matter who they pick, but if they lose black voters, they'll never win another election again.
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07-02-2024, 10:21 PM | #923 |
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No one gives a shit about Kamala.
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07-02-2024, 10:32 PM | #924 |
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kamala was never the candidate 4 years ago what are you talking about?
Harris may have been going to be given the reins in 4 more years as that's how it works. (not that I like that that's how it works) |
07-02-2024, 10:33 PM | #925 |
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Should that be their response to Trump's attacks? I don't think that will work.
Also, people definitely care about Clyburn, as we saw in 2020, and he has said it has to be Biden or Harris. PredictIt is moving in her direction... Biden .46 Harris .36 Everyone else less than .10
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07-02-2024, 10:37 PM | #926 |
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She ran in 2020 and no one cared. Her approval numbers are pretty bad.
With that said, she would still be an upgrade over Joe merely for the fact she can draw a clock on a piece of paper. I also think it would motivate some Democrats to have someone with more energy running. And reports have been that she has been against the genocide in Gaza which is why shes been so silent on the topic. I think if you paired her with a popular governor like Shapiro, she'd win. Last edited by RainMaker : 07-02-2024 at 10:38 PM. |
07-03-2024, 12:00 AM | #927 |
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The America I was lead to believe existed, is dead. We are fully on the path towards authoritarian subjugation.
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07-03-2024, 12:03 AM | #928 |
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Biden needs to go. The whole thing still has time to be wiped and reset. Let it be an ugly brokered convention. Maybe then, there will be someone everyone can support. Biden is done.
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07-03-2024, 02:12 AM | #929 |
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I think it’s pretty much over at this point regardless. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Beshear I suspect is the best possible alternative - white male governor of a red state.
Harris doesn’t have the charisma and is tied to the administration. Newsome has the California problem - a shit ton of people blame Californians for ruining the housing market (yes, I know, corporations in actuality, but perceptions and all that).
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Vanity Fair is all-in for the Democrats so this is not surprising. It’s not clear yet if they are trying to secure more votes for Biden or for his Democratic ouster. RFK, fwiw, says it was a picture taken in 2010 of a BBQ’d goat in South America. |
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07-03-2024, 08:15 AM | #932 |
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25 governors are travelling to DC tonight to talk to Biden.
It is totally over and he has to drop out. |
07-03-2024, 08:36 AM | #933 | |
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Do you want to move on to his refusal to deny that he sexually assaulted a 23 year-old?
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07-03-2024, 09:23 AM | #934 |
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Hearing reports that Biden didn’t start his debate prep until 11 each day and also took a nap every day and that’s the performance we got. He just isn’t capable to do the job. I’m fully in the camp now that the people that surround him are power hungry and want to hold on.
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Yeah, I mean overall I feel like this deserves more attention than "Vanity Fair is lying about goats."
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07-03-2024, 10:35 AM | #937 |
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Time for Michelle Obama to become a national hero.
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07-03-2024, 10:45 AM | #938 |
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I still think Taylor Swift could jump in and become president if she wanted to.
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07-03-2024, 10:47 AM | #939 |
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Smart of Trump to stay out of the news so not to interrupt and let the Dems/ liberal media eat their young ... or in this case, their old.
Com'on Michelle, say yes. Or maybe say yes as the VP. Two black women on the ticket! |
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07-03-2024, 11:13 AM | #941 |
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More movement on PredictIt.
Kamala now at .49 and Joe down to .27
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07-03-2024, 11:14 AM | #942 |
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It definitely feels like things are starting to snowball on Biden. Having it leaked that he told donors he almost fell asleep on the debate stage, and then a "key ally" reported to have said he's considering stepping away from running is the kind of 1-2 punch that I'm not sure he could plausibly recover from.
What's he going to say - I thought about it and after my second nap of the day, I decided I am more determined than ever to run?
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I remember my wife making fun of me catching naps in the afternoon. I told her "you wait, you'll understand" ... and now she does.
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Media (and bettors) can't handle having nominations settled this early, know Trump isn't going anywhere, so they drum up this to get everyone riled. It didn't help that Biden gave them a big foot in the door with the debate.
(Both media overlords and reporters want this "action" of course. And probably still wouldn't mind Trump winning, because his was a more "exciting" four years and, well, the media companies are run by rich folks. I'm still not convinced "anyone" can just walk in and beat Trump, fwiw. I also don't know what Harris buys you over Biden/Harris. If at some point he shows he can't do the job, then step down and let her take over. I don't see why running her is "whew, that's fine" vs "OMG HOW DU WE LET VEPP BE PREZ??" say, a year down the road.)
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Assuming these are legit leaks and not fabrications. They may be, but again, to what I said about the media wanting this to snowball... (Red side, too. I'm sure they are loving all this.)
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I mean, this, basically:
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07-03-2024, 11:29 AM | #947 |
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Totally agree. But we've been in this alternate reality for damn near a decade, so I don't expect anything to change.
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For anyone of his age not responsible for anything beyond themselves at any given moment, absolutely fair point. It becomes a little concerning when it’s a bus driver or a surgical doctor that’s taking naps on the job. |
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Maybe Joe should just label naps "Executive Time."
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I'm not going to argue that Biden is the best candidate but the GOP finds things to attack Dem candidates with and make dem voters question their candidate and they fall for it every time. Meanwhile the GOP is voting for their guy no matter what. They don't care. They see us as in a cold war currently and it's winner take all. This is why dems are the majority in this country and losing every fight. Dems are looking for reasons to not vote for their candidates and the GOP just wants to win. |
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