WW 103? - 42 Attempts (Game Over - Conspirators Win) - Page 19

saldana · 10-15-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

saldana's gonna be pissed....

want. to. vote. for. gm

saldana · 10-15-2009, 05:02 PM

so i havent been able to catch up all the way (18 pages is alot), so I am gonna stick with what I see as Lathum's gut

vote ntn deacon

Schmidty · 10-15-2009, 05:19 PM

I can't believe Lathum was boxed for that. That is absolute bullshit. SD pretty much cemented his place as the worst moderator I have ever seen. I don't usually dislike posters on FOFC as people, but it's really hard to respect that guy.

Schmidty · 10-15-2009, 05:27 PM

Hope I don't get banned for that.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Hope I don't get banned for that.

He doesn't even know this sub forum exists, you're safe.

Schmidty · 10-15-2009, 05:33 PM

So what's the official vote count? I'm too lazy to look.

The Jackal · 10-15-2009, 05:34 PM

I think me, Danny, PB, and saldana/lathum have voted for NTN and that's it.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

want. to. vote. for. gm

Glad you could join us.

No wonder I get voted out early a lot, people even want to vote for me when I am the GM.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 05:36 PM

Plus you're a wolf in at least half of the games.

Schmidty · 10-15-2009, 05:37 PM

So wait, are people voting for ntn simply because of a few gut-feelings?

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 05:39 PM

As of post 910:

ntndeacon 4 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902)

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Plus you're a wolf in at least half of the games.

Ssshhh, don't tell.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 05:41 PM

dola: Danny just gave me a game idea, the GM wolf. All players as villagers and only the GM as a wolf.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

So wait, are people voting for ntn simply because of a few gut-feelings?

For me no. Twice NTN has been a possible lynch candidate and twice he managed to get himself as the #3 candidate without actually doing anything. I think if he were a villager some of the wolves would have helped carry him closer to lynch. He also is the only remaining voter for CR on day #1 still alive or not cleared. All 5 other players are/were villagers. I personally think it is unlikely there were no wolves on the second leading vote getter day 1.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

dola: Danny just gave me a game idea, the GM wolf. All players as villagers and only the GM as a wolf.

That could be this game, in fact I will tell myself that is the reason we haven't found a wolf yet. It's not because we are playing poorly.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I personally think it is unlikely there were no wolves on the second leading vote getter day 1.

Of course this would be depending on whether or not CR is a wolf as well. CR would be the ideal second candidate here if one was to emerge, and probably not Schmidty or PB as suggested by NTN.

Schmidty · 10-15-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

For me no. Twice NTN has been a possible lynch candidate and twice he managed to get himself as the #3 candidate without actually doing anything. I think if he were a villager some of the wolves would have helped carry him closer to lynch. He also is the only remaining voter for CR on day #1 still alive or not cleared. All 5 other players are/were villagers. I personally think it is unlikely there were no wolves on the second leading vote getter day 1.

I think this is a sound reason for voting for him. I'll go with that unless something else comes up.

Vote ntndeacon

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 06:33 PM

ALthough I have generally gotten a good vibe from The Jackal today, the fact remains his record in my analysis still came off fairly poorly. ntn also came off poorly, and I don't have an issue goin with an ntn vote. But the old adage about WW applies here; we don't learn anything in runaway votes.

So I am going to introduce the Jackal and hope we at least get some discussion or evening things out. Then we can go with whichever one seems best at the end.

I will check in when I get home in about an hour and change, but it will probably be brief, and I won't be around for deadline.

VOTE THE JACKAL

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 06:34 PM

As of post 918:

ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917)
The Jackal 1 - Chief Rum (918)

The Jackal · 10-15-2009, 06:41 PM

If you need me to be a secondary candidate, whatever, but as I said yesterday, I'm not unconvinced NTN and CR are both wolves here.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

If you need me to be a secondary candidate, whatever, but as I said yesterday, I'm not unconvinced NTN and CR are both wolves here.

I think you're saying you think they both could be wolves and I agree that is a possibility. Though, you think if that were the case CR might just go with the crowd.

The Jackal · 10-15-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I think you're saying you think they both could be wolves and I agree that is a possibility. Though, you think if that were the case CR might just go with the crowd.

Yes, you'd think so.

The Jackal · 10-15-2009, 06:46 PM

Perhaps he's just misguided in voting for me twice, but it certainly bothers me. Not a reason it should bother anyone else. Hopefully NTN turns up bad here.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 06:48 PM

If I was in his position I would have voted elsewhere most likely too. This is one game where I actually don't have a wolfy read on CR based on gut, so of course he probably is one

The Jackal · 10-15-2009, 07:10 PM

I'm going to watch the Phillies game, not sure if I'll be back before deadline. However things happen to go in my absence, good luck to the Nazis! Boy, you don't think you're ever going to say that in your life, and then it happens.

Telle · 10-15-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

For me no. Twice NTN has been a possible lynch candidate and twice he managed to get himself as the #3 candidate without actually doing anything. I think if he were a villager some of the wolves would have helped carry him closer to lynch. He also is the only remaining voter for CR on day #1 still alive or not cleared. All 5 other players are/were villagers. I personally think it is unlikely there were no wolves on the second leading vote getter day 1.

But we still don't know for sure if CR is a villager or a wolf, so that analysis is flawed.

I'm going to follow Chief Rum with the second candidate. I'm just really not liking this run on ntn.

vote The Jackal

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 07:20 PM

As of post 926:

ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917)
The Jackal 2 - Chief Rum (918), Telle (926)

J23 · 10-15-2009, 07:47 PM

vote The Jackal

though today made me feel better about him, I don't really want to just pile on.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

But we still don't know for sure if CR is a villager or a wolf, so that analysis is flawed.

I'm going to follow Chief Rum with the second candidate. I'm just really not liking this run on ntn.

vote The Jackal

Even if CR was a wolf, I would be surprised if there wasn't another wolf on him.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 08:20 PM

The other argument is if you believe that at least one of NTN and CR is a wolf then if not voting NTN why follow CR's candidate?

Danny · 10-15-2009, 08:22 PM

My vote will not be moving. If the run off was CR/NTN I would think about it, but lynching Jackal gives us little info if we are wrong and we still have big questions about NTN and CR. At least NTN or CR give us some good info.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 08:27 PM

I still am wondering why on day 1 no wolves would jump on the lynching of CR after villagers started the run. They could have fit in fine and lynching CR day 1 would have been very good for them if he is a villager.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 08:33 PM

As of post 932:

ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917)
The Jackal 3 - Chief Rum (918), Telle (926), J23 (928)

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 08:35 PM

Non-WW related:

Ruuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I still am wondering why on day 1 no wolves would jump on the lynching of CR after villagers started the run. They could have fit in fine and lynching CR day 1 would have been very good for them if he is a villager.

The problem with your statement here is that the bolded part is incorrect.

Any analysis such as mine would have highlighted that. It's not like people who get someone lynched late aren't looked at.

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

My vote will not be moving. If the run off was CR/NTN I would think about it, but lynching Jackal gives us little info if we are wrong and we still have big questions about NTN and CR. At least NTN or CR give us some good info.

Lynching ntn in a runaway gives us even less info than lynching The Jackal. And that's even beside the fact that there is at least a little circumstantial evidence to suggest The Jackal could be a wolf himself, certainly as much on ntn.

Don't marry yourself to your "has to be one wolf" theory to the exclusion of all others.

ntndeacon · 10-15-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

For me no. Twice NTN has been a possible lynch candidate and twice he managed to get himself as the #3 candidate without actually doing anything. I think if he were a villager some of the wolves would have helped carry him closer to lynch. He also is the only remaining voter for CR on day #1 still alive or not cleared. All 5 other players are/were villagers. I personally think it is unlikely there were no wolves on the second leading vote getter day 1.

not if we had always two villagers going at it. I know this is too little too late but I just got home.

ntndeacon · 10-15-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Of course this would be depending on whether or not CR is a wolf as well. CR would be the ideal second candidate here if one was to emerge, and probably not Schmidty or PB as suggested by NTN.

Yea I was just throwing out names there and have said so. I think y'all should look at those that have not gotten much looks

ntndeacon · 10-15-2009, 08:56 PM

Vote the Jackal

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 08:57 PM

As of post 939:

ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917)
The Jackal 4 - Chief Rum (918), Telle (926), J23 (928), ntndeacon (939)

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 09:00 PM

deadline

ntndeacon · 10-15-2009, 09:00 PM

I think most of the wolves are on me btw.

ntndeacon · 10-15-2009, 09:00 PM

good luck Nazis

ntndeacon · 10-15-2009, 09:02 PM

at least the seer gets another night!

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I think most of the wolves are on me btw.

My best guess has two on you. But then I would say the same thing about you if you were on a vote list for someone else.

I guess we'll see.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 09:08 PM

After the stressful events of the previous night all eyes turn towards ntndeacon. A rush of votes make the late reasoning for The Jackal futile.

ntndeacon must be the traitor!!!! He must be stopped.

The firing squad is convened. ntndeacon tried to plead his case but the majority are not listening.

Ready!!!

Aim!!!

Fire!!!

With the sound of the shots he drops to the ground. Maybe you have finally gotten a conspirator.

You rush to him to see what you can find.

As you get closer you start to notice a very familiar face. No!!! It can't be!!!

What have we done?

Laying motionless on the ground is one of the greatest military leaders in German history. Rommel has been killed. He was loyal, he had no knowledge of the conspiracy.

Night results to come.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 09:12 PM

Damn, still no traitor, though at least there wont be a convert for sure now.

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 09:14 PM

After a long night knowing that you have just killed the greatest General in the German army you wake to hear that there has been another assassination.

The streets are buzzing with the news.

Telle has been found dead. Searching through Telle's belongings you see that it was actually Hermann Göring.

Things are not looking good for the Nazi party. You wonder how much worse things could get.

You hear that there is news coming in from the hospital about the victims of last night's blast...

Chief Rum · 10-15-2009, 09:18 PM

Grrr...

That sucks. I hate it when the seer buys it and we don't know any results.

Danny · 10-15-2009, 09:18 PM

That sucks. We'll have to look at Telle's vote history. but at first glance this doesn't bode too well for Jackal.

10-15-2009, 05:19 PM	#903
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I can't believe Lathum was boxed for that. That is absolute bullshit. SD pretty much cemented his place as the worst moderator I have ever seen. I don't usually dislike posters on FOFC as people, but it's really hard to respect that guy. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-15-2009, 05:27 PM	#904
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Hope I don't get banned for that. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-15-2009, 05:33 PM	#906
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	So what's the official vote count? I'm too lazy to look. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-15-2009, 05:37 PM	#910
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	So wait, are people voting for ntn simply because of a few gut-feelings? __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-15-2009, 06:33 PM	#918
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	ALthough I have generally gotten a good vibe from The Jackal today, the fact remains his record in my analysis still came off fairly poorly. ntn also came off poorly, and I don't have an issue goin with an ntn vote. But the old adage about WW applies here; we don't learn anything in runaway votes. So I am going to introduce the Jackal and hope we at least get some discussion or evening things out. Then we can go with whichever one seems best at the end. I will check in when I get home in about an hour and change, but it will probably be brief, and I won't be around for deadline. VOTE THE JACKAL __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-15-2009, 05:02 PM	#902
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	so i havent been able to catch up all the way (18 pages is alot), so I am gonna stick with what I see as Lathum's gut vote ntn deacon

10-15-2009, 05:34 PM	#907
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I think me, Danny, PB, and saldana/lathum have voted for NTN and that's it.

10-15-2009, 05:36 PM	#909
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Plus you're a wolf in at least half of the games.

10-15-2009, 05:39 PM	#911
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of post 910: ntndeacon 4 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902)

10-15-2009, 05:41 PM	#913
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: Danny just gave me a game idea, the GM wolf. All players as villagers and only the GM as a wolf.

10-15-2009, 06:34 PM	#919
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of post 918: ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917) The Jackal 1 - Chief Rum (918) Last edited by EagleFan : 10-15-2009 at 06:35 PM.

10-15-2009, 06:41 PM	#920
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	If you need me to be a secondary candidate, whatever, but as I said yesterday, I'm not unconvinced NTN and CR are both wolves here.

10-15-2009, 06:46 PM	#923
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Perhaps he's just misguided in voting for me twice, but it certainly bothers me. Not a reason it should bother anyone else. Hopefully NTN turns up bad here.

10-15-2009, 06:48 PM	#924
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If I was in his position I would have voted elsewhere most likely too. This is one game where I actually don't have a wolfy read on CR based on gut, so of course he probably is one

10-15-2009, 07:10 PM	#925
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm going to watch the Phillies game, not sure if I'll be back before deadline. However things happen to go in my absence, good luck to the Nazis! Boy, you don't think you're ever going to say that in your life, and then it happens.

10-15-2009, 07:20 PM	#927
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of post 926: ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917) The Jackal 2 - Chief Rum (918), Telle (926)

10-15-2009, 07:47 PM	#928
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	vote The Jackal though today made me feel better about him, I don't really want to just pile on.

10-15-2009, 08:20 PM	#930
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	The other argument is if you believe that at least one of NTN and CR is a wolf then if not voting NTN why follow CR's candidate?

10-15-2009, 08:22 PM	#931
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	My vote will not be moving. If the run off was CR/NTN I would think about it, but lynching Jackal gives us little info if we are wrong and we still have big questions about NTN and CR. At least NTN or CR give us some good info.

10-15-2009, 08:27 PM	#932
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I still am wondering why on day 1 no wolves would jump on the lynching of CR after villagers started the run. They could have fit in fine and lynching CR day 1 would have been very good for them if he is a villager.

10-15-2009, 08:33 PM	#933
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of post 932: ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917) The Jackal 3 - Chief Rum (918), Telle (926), J23 (928)

10-15-2009, 08:35 PM	#934
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Non-WW related: Ruuuuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-15-2009, 08:56 PM	#939
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Vote the Jackal

10-15-2009, 08:57 PM	#940
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	As of post 939: ntndeacon 5 - Danny (791), The Jackal (808), PurdueBrad (894), saldana (902), Schmidty (917) The Jackal 4 - Chief Rum (918), Telle (926), J23 (928), ntndeacon (939)

10-15-2009, 09:00 PM	#941
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	deadline

10-15-2009, 09:00 PM	#942
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I think most of the wolves are on me btw.

10-15-2009, 09:00 PM	#943
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	good luck Nazis

10-15-2009, 09:02 PM	#944
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	at least the seer gets another night!

10-15-2009, 09:08 PM	#946
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	After the stressful events of the previous night all eyes turn towards ntndeacon. A rush of votes make the late reasoning for The Jackal futile. ntndeacon must be the traitor!!!! He must be stopped. The firing squad is convened. ntndeacon tried to plead his case but the majority are not listening. Ready!!! Aim!!! Fire!!! With the sound of the shots he drops to the ground. Maybe you have finally gotten a conspirator. You rush to him to see what you can find. As you get closer you start to notice a very familiar face. No!!! It can't be!!! What have we done? Laying motionless on the ground is one of the greatest military leaders in German history. Rommel has been killed. He was loyal, he had no knowledge of the conspiracy. Night results to come.

10-15-2009, 09:12 PM	#947
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Damn, still no traitor, though at least there wont be a convert for sure now.

10-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#948
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	After a long night knowing that you have just killed the greatest General in the German army you wake to hear that there has been another assassination. The streets are buzzing with the news. Telle has been found dead. Searching through Telle's belongings you see that it was actually Hermann Göring. Things are not looking good for the Nazi party. You wonder how much worse things could get. You hear that there is news coming in from the hospital about the victims of last night's blast...

10-15-2009, 09:18 PM	#949
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Grrr... That sucks. I hate it when the seer buys it and we don't know any results. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-15-2009, 09:18 PM	#950
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That sucks. We'll have to look at Telle's vote history. but at first glance this doesn't bode too well for Jackal.

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