Maximum Football??? - Page 19

JPhillips · 02-22-2006, 10:32 AM

Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
But if you love him
Be proud of him
Cause after all he's just a man

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I have been reading some of your more "constructive" posts. I would like to respond to them in this forum.

Firstly I would like to let you know - developing a game is not easy. If you feel that, by yourself, you could develop a better title, then go do it. This man has spent the last five years of his life trying to make you happy. So now, when they are working to make it the best possible game it can be, your complaining. If you've waited five years a few more days aren't going to kill you.

Secondly, as it has been mentioned in other forums, it is JUST a game. Sure, you're all excited, but it's not a sign of the impending Apocolypse if it takes a day or two to work out last minute issues and give you a great release.

Thirdly, I have seen you degrade into personal attacks on the developer of the game you've been salivating over. Perhaps you could voice your concerns in a more mature manner. Keep things in perspective. This game has truly been David's life over the last two years, and in turn, mine. I would appreciate you taking the time to think about how hard these people, both David here, but also Erik and David at Matrix games have been working to get this out the door and please all of you.

I felt a little perspective was needed here.

Now, I know, I have probably offended some of your sensibilities but someone has to rein you guys in.

If you feel like you have to post in response, here's a tip: take a breath, think long and hard about how you're going to say things, and if you feel you must respond, be mature about it.

I do realise that I now will be getting a ton of profane and threatening pms - but that's the price I'll pay if you just let David get this out the door for you.

_____________________________

Jennifer L. Winter
Media Relations
Wintervalley Software

STAND BY YOUR MAN

wade moore · 02-22-2006, 10:33 AM

I so wanted to reply to it, but held back...

These people need to understand they are running a BUSINESS. That they are making promises to CUSTOMERS. The product their BUSINESS has promised to deliver is about 3 years late. It is absurd to expect civility at more delays. They have no perspective on this issue whatsoever.

gstelmack · 02-22-2006, 10:36 AM

Not to mention all the slams coming from her husband against text sim developers...

cartman · 02-22-2006, 10:37 AM

I feel a bit sorry for Shaun Sullivan in all of this. Hopefully people won't equate Maximum Football with his baseball game, which actually does work and is a fine game. since they are both published by the same outfit.

Butter · 02-22-2006, 10:39 AM

Now THAT'S what I call media relations!

Anthony · 02-22-2006, 10:43 AM

why does anyone care though? the humor in this has eluded me since like page 12 or so. the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.

JeeberD · 02-22-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.

THAT'S the humor in it...

cartman · 02-22-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

why does anyone care though? the humor in this has eluded me since like page 12 or so. the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.

You mean you'd pass up a chance at a game where you could field a starting lineup of 11 Dean Houston's?

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 11:15 AM

what would you buy?

maximum football or a refurbished electric football game?

Poli · 02-22-2006, 11:16 AM

Dude, I need an electric football game.

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 11:17 AM

never really understood how to play electric football

Senator · 02-22-2006, 11:18 AM

Ok, I didn't read the thread cuz I am not that bored, but WHEN is this game coming OUT???????

I MUST KNOW!! CANNOT WAIT!!!

Toddzilla · 02-22-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

True story: When it was first announced, if you had set aside the money to purchase this game in an interest-garnering account... you would own Microsoft.

Hey! You stole my TCY2/BBCF joke

Poli · 02-22-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

never really understood how to play electric football

Me either. I owned one 25 years ago, though.

Poli · 02-22-2006, 11:20 AM

Anyone know the release date of Football Pro '99?

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Me either. I owned one 25 years ago, though.

me too. the usual was to set the guys up once, turn it on, stare at them for a few minutes and then leave it out on the floor for days until someone yelled at me to clean it up.

Bee · 02-22-2006, 11:23 AM

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Here are some words from a Beta Tester.

1. It was the first time i have tested a game and it was or better is an unique experience. You learn how complex the game is what all can happen when you change "little" things.

2. I have played Micropose (?) Ultimate Football 94 and 95, all sierra titels since FPS 95 and some others. The state of MF is now better than all the other games i have mentioned (even after they were patched). When i had to choose between MF (e.g. yesterday-version) FPS sports vers. 1.08 i would choose MF. Despite the basic career mode for MF it was very hard to achieve relatistic results with FPS 98 (i think some have forgotten this). FPS 98 was a nice experience but it has till to the end some serious problems. It was the community who made the game so great.

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In other words, if I watch a CPU/CPU season (all 16 games for one team), will the statistics be similar to a completely simmed season?

I did not such a test but i played or watched league games and compared it with stats from sim games. There should be no significant differences.

BTW. Gambler - Your approach is very realistic.

So what I take from this post is that it's better than a couple football games from 95-96 although doesn't have as deep of a career mode...and the beta tester seems to really struggle with the English language.

edit: And no I didn't run the original post through a jbmagic translator.

JeeberD · 02-22-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Me either. I owned one 25 years ago, though.

Ised to line up my players in a 3x3 block with the extra players on the front end and the ball carrier in the middle of the mass. There was no way to stop that brutal running game, and thank goodness my big brother didn't care about actual football rules.

Poli · 02-22-2006, 11:24 AM

I tried to make a Christmas tree formation or something. I also held the quarterback up to eye level to try and throw the ball.

My favorite was to put stuff on top of the field and turn the knob so everything rattled.

My mom must have hated me.

Toddzilla · 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM

"Your account has not been activated.

You need to find out the registeration confirmation e-mail sent to you when you registered and then follow the instruction to activate your account."

Wow - even their forums have Maximum Spelling Customization!

Senator · 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I tried to make a Christmas tree formation or something. I also held the quarterback up to eye level to try and throw the ball.

My favorite was to put stuff on top of the field and turn the knob so everything rattled.

My mom must have hated me.

If you tried to run the statue of liberty play you would just vibrate out of bounds for a loss.

Bonegavel · 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

never really understood how to play electric football

I think you had to put up a barrier between Off/Def, set up your play, then remove the barrier and turn on the juice.

The lifting of the piece of paper (or whatever you used) was always a great moment.

st.cronin · 02-22-2006, 02:10 PM

So, will the game be out by Friday?

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 02:13 PM

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.

duckman · 02-22-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.

LOL!

bbor · 02-22-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.

Best post in this thread.LOL

Toddzilla · 02-22-2006, 02:43 PM

Over on the MFer forum, the main dude is telling the nay-sayers to wait until the game is released before being critical. No wonder the game isn't out yet.

Sweed · 02-22-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee

So what I take from this post is that it's better than a couple football games from 95-96 although doesn't have as deep of a career mode...and the beta tester seems to really struggle with the English language.

edit: And no I didn't run the original post through a jbmagic translator.

That's what I got from it. He forgot to mention that he hasn't played Madden, any 2k game, or FOF because anything released after 1999 doesn't count

Anthony · 02-22-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

You mean you'd pass up a chance at a game where you could field a starting lineup of 11 Dean Houston's?

there can only be one.

Sweed · 02-22-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Sometimes its hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
But if you love him
Be proud of him
Cause after all he's just a man

STAND BY YOUR MAN

DW is just a man? I was under the impression he was the second coming, thanks for bursting that bubble

DeftRevisited · 02-22-2006, 02:50 PM

It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeftRevisited

It's amazing they are going to release football game

Toddzilla · 02-22-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music.

Ask and ye shall receive....well, sort of:

Maximum Hilarity

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Ask and ye shall receive....well, sort of:

Maximum Hilarity

BRILLIANT! You magnificient bastard!

MrBigglesworth · 02-22-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Ask and ye shall receive....well, sort of:

Maximum Hilarity

That. Is. Awesome.

SFL Cat · 02-22-2006, 02:59 PM

HATERS!!!

*cough* awesome job Toddzilla *cough*

cthomer5000 · 02-22-2006, 03:01 PM

*drys a tear from his eye*

rkmsuf · 02-22-2006, 03:03 PM

I guess posting that over there would be considered piling on.

duckman · 02-22-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeftRevisited

It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.

David, is that you?

wade moore · 02-22-2006, 03:08 PM

wow.

my tumby hurts.

I haven't laughed that loud with no one else around in a LONG time..

KWhit · 02-22-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

David, is that you?

Be nice. It's his wife, dude.

duckman · 02-22-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Be nice. It's his wife, dude.

Sorry, I can't tell them apart.

Bee · 02-22-2006, 03:12 PM

I wonder how many threads on their board have 900+ posts? Heck, I wonder if their board has 900+ posts...

Toddzilla · 02-22-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

David, is that you?

Hey, come on now, this guy hasn't posted since September of 2004 and now when he...does....you...

...

(Hmmmm, September 2004? The original release date for Maximum Football? Coincidence?)

...

...never mind.

bbor · 02-22-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee

I wonder how many threads on their board have 900+ posts? Heck, I wonder if their board has 900+ posts...

We must all be secretly pining for this game

Toddzilla · 02-22-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeftRevisited

It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.

I'd consider pushing a release date back almost 4 years very different, but not in a good way. So, in that case, it is horrible. Touche!

DeftRevisited - 1
FOFC - 0

Now run along, you've got some more potential customers to deceive.

JPhillips · 02-22-2006, 03:28 PM

I thought this was interesting.

The Homepage for Wintervalley Software.

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We take the time to understand your needs to serve you better.
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Competitive rates.
At Wintervalley Software, we provide you with the software solutions you need to grow your business.

Bee · 02-22-2006, 03:43 PM

That's hilarious.

DeftRevisited · 02-22-2006, 03:55 PM

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.

wade moore · 02-22-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeftRevisited

The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.

Dude.

Seriously.

The game is FIVE YEARS LATE and has had a rolling expectation every few months...

How can you expect for anyone to take them seriously or give them respect or benefit of the doubt with anything they say. They are the definition of a joke.

02-22-2006, 10:36 AM	#903
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Not to mention all the slams coming from her husband against text sim developers... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

02-22-2006, 10:37 AM	#904
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I feel a bit sorry for Shaun Sullivan in all of this. Hopefully people won't equate Maximum Football with his baseball game, which actually does work and is a fine game. since they are both published by the same outfit. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

02-22-2006, 10:39 AM	#905
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Now THAT'S what I call media relations! __________________ My listening habits

02-22-2006, 11:15 AM	#909
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	what would you buy? maximum football or a refurbished electric football game? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-22-2006, 11:16 AM	#910
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Dude, I need an electric football game. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-22-2006, 10:43 AM	#906
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	why does anyone care though? the humor in this has eluded me since like page 12 or so. the game is obviously not gonna be worth anyone's time, not sure why people are taking off of work for this crap and crying about it.

02-22-2006, 11:17 AM	#911
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	never really understood how to play electric football __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-22-2006, 11:18 AM	#912
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Ok, I didn't read the thread cuz I am not that bored, but WHEN is this game coming OUT??????? I MUST KNOW!! CANNOT WAIT!!! __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

02-22-2006, 11:20 AM	#915
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Anyone know the release date of Football Pro '99? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-22-2006, 11:24 AM	#919
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I tried to make a Christmas tree formation or something. I also held the quarterback up to eye level to try and throw the ball. My favorite was to put stuff on top of the field and turn the knob so everything rattled. My mom must have hated me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-22-2006, 11:41 AM	#920
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	"Your account has not been activated. You need to find out the registeration confirmation e-mail sent to you when you registered and then follow the instruction to activate your account." Wow - even their forums have Maximum Spelling Customization!

02-22-2006, 02:10 PM	#923
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	So, will the game be out by Friday? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-22-2006, 02:13 PM	#924
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	What would be cool is if someone could hack their board and everytime you enter it plays Benny Hill music. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-22-2006, 02:43 PM	#927
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Over on the MFer forum, the main dude is telling the nay-sayers to wait until the game is released before being critical. No wonder the game isn't out yet.

02-22-2006, 02:50 PM	#931
DeftRevisited n00b Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Frisco, Texas	It's amazing they are going to release football game that doesn't have FOF play design capabilities and doesn't limit itself to an NFL style league. I don't know what they are thinking. It would be horrible if anyone tried to do anything different than what is already available.

02-22-2006, 02:59 PM	#936
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	HATERS!!! cough awesome job Toddzilla cough

02-22-2006, 03:01 PM	#937
cthomer5000 Strategy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North Carolina	drys a tear from his eye

02-22-2006, 03:03 PM	#938
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I guess posting that over there would be considered piling on. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

02-22-2006, 03:12 PM	#943
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I wonder how many threads on their board have 900+ posts? Heck, I wonder if their board has 900+ posts...

02-22-2006, 03:43 PM	#948
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	That's hilarious.

02-22-2006, 03:55 PM	#949
DeftRevisited n00b Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Frisco, Texas	The expected release on the page also says 2002. They should have done a better job of managing customer expectations but, the tone of the posts around here reminds me of why we haven't had a decent non-text football sim in 7 years.

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