WW-Pokemon Day Three Deadline 4/15 10 PM

[path12]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I wouldn't be adverse to a JAG scan to be honest (would clear up an potential "why is JAG still alive?" confusion).

Though your two choices are good as well, or throw font into that mix.

If we think that Shoveler's rant was just a planned rant for gamesmanship we would have to assume it was discussed between the two remaining wolves.

That would mean that we need to ask if timmae's response was a believable just got thrown under the bus response.

That is kind of a risky play as going after the wrong person that way could potentially blow things out of control.


(sorry, kind of spitting out random thoughts as they come to me there)

Nothing to be sorry about, that's what I wanted. TBH, I sent in my scan around 9AM today and it was always about these two for me.

I get what you are saying about JAG, but the more he's been around the better I've felt about him which isn't necessarily a good thing.

[JAG]

For EF, posts from Day 1:

Originally Posted by JAG

No huge wolfy reads from me. I see font's case on EF but I think that's his usual style of play. The only thing that stood out a bit to me was Shoveler saying he'd be around all day but didn't really have a lot to say even as conversations were raging. The comment about feeling better about Narc after he posts analysis, which makes no sense as he does that no matter his alliegence.

Originally Posted by JAG

I don't see the case for brit. I sort of get what people see with cheek, but I feel like it's inexperience rather than malice.

Originally Posted by britrock88

Alternatives?

Originally Posted by JAG

Of the current candidates no, like I said, just a negative feeling on Shoveler.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Grover

And you haven't responded to my response where I asked when you called me out.

Post 871

[path12]

Originally Posted by JAG

Grover naturally. He still hasn't responded to me and had a vote that helped wolf Raven. Even if we were only to go on post tone, it's hard to believe wolf timmae would forget that Autumn had been scanned by the real seer.

True. As I mentioned day 2 though I've had a hunch about timmae and am SO CURIOUS to see if I was right!

[Grover]

I feel like suspicions have been pinned on me erroneously all game long. I was called out for not changing my day one vote on Jackal, even after I said I wouldn't be around that night.

I've had suspicions on timmae all game. I left my vote on him at a time when, again, I said I wouldn't back again until past deadline.

My guilt is being based off of my unavailability to change votes when I have stated I am otherwise indisposed.

We have good players in important roles right now. path's advice is to be heeded, as is Narc's. But those who are so eagerly and readily available to jump on it their side should be looked at carefully.

I'm looking at timmae first and then font. Her aggressiveness on EF ticked boxes for me as I've said. There's something 'off' in the way timmae has played this game and it's raised my eyebrow.

[Zinto]

Deadline

[Zinto]

Day Three Results

It ends up being a quick and easy vote after Path flips on his red hat and points a finger back at Shoveler. Quickly the rest of the campsite decides that Shoveler must have lied to them last night and that he must be a member of Team Rocket.

Path challenges Shoveler to a battle to prove who the real Red is. Path chooses his Bulbasaur while Shoveler sends out his Magikarp. It is a quick battle and Path easily dispatches the Magikarp who can only splash.

Before Magikarp is even returned to his Pokeball, Shoveler is running away towards the forest.

Shoveler was a member of Team Rocket.

[Zinto]

Night Three Results

When you wake up you see Officer Jenny standing in the camp outside Grover's tent. It seems that after spending the day talking and getting to know Grover, Path was convinced that Grover was a member of Team Rocket.

Officer Jenny found all of the missing Pokemon and took Grover in for questioning. With Grover arrested all of Team Rocket has left the camp and it is safe to continue your Pokemon journey.

The Village Wins!!

[timmae]

Hell yeah!! Go team pokey!!

[Zinto]

I think I balanced this a little too pro village. I probably need to get rid of the martyr or added a cultist or both.

[timmae]

Thanks for running this zinto... I had a ton of fun!!

[EagleFan]

Good game all. Thanks for the game Z.

Well done path!!!

[path12]

Yay!

So wolves, why Britrock?

[Shoveler]

So much for that plan..

[timmae]

Yes, way to go path!

Now explain to me your tells on my play... I was all over the board so I have no clue what you saw!!!

Sorry autumn, no harm meant man. Also grover... I was a bit tunneled on your play.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

So much for that plan..

Awesome post though... I loved the artist license on weaving that tale!!

[path12]

Originally Posted by timmae

Yes, way to go path!

Now explain to me your tells on my play... I was all over the board so I have no clue what you saw!!!

Sorry autumn, no harm meant man. Also grover... I was a bit tunneled on your play.

Clearly it wasn't true but I would have kept it in my pocket for future use anyway.

[Raven]

Somebody explain to me why Grover is dead? Shouldn't narc be dead since he protected Path?

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by path12

Yay!

So wolves, why Britrock?

We agreed at the beginning that we would not kill font, narc or chief on night one. And we also agreed we were going to get owned.

To be honest we wanted to create confusion, and it seemed to work.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Raven

Somebody explain to me why Grover is dead? Shouldn't narc be dead since he protected Path?

I scanned Grover so he would have come up wolf and we would have had a day just like this one, I suppose.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Raven

Somebody explain to me why Grover is dead? Shouldn't narc be dead since he protected Path?

Path scanned grover.. actions must come before night kills

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Raven

Somebody explain to me why Grover is dead? Shouldn't narc be dead since he protected Path?

I just accelerated the last day. Path scanned Grover and he would have just been voted out tomorrow.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by path12

Clearly it wasn't true but I would have kept it in my pocket for future use anyway.

You dog! The funny thing is my first game of WW was The Rebirth which was essentially a RPG game. Then Drenai which I was NK'd N2. Then I was wolf in WoT. How the hell can anyone build a profile of my play during that run?! LOL..

[Shoveler]

And path, I seriously had you targeted for the night kill last night until ten minutes to go and I made the executive decision to switch to chief. I wasn't kidding when I said I was upset today, but not at the team, just myself. You were the smart kill and I convinced myself otherwise.

[Zinto]

Technically Narc is gone I just didn't write it out because I wrote the post out a couple of hours ago and didn't double check it.

[EagleFan]

Once the final wolf was scanned there was really no sense in playing out the last day, that is my take on it.

[path12]

Originally Posted by timmae

You dog! The funny thing is my first game of WW was The Rebirth which was essentially a RPG game. Then Drenai which I was NK'd N2. Then I was wolf in WoT. How the hell can anyone build a profile of my play during that run?! LOL..

You can learn a lot about how people play when you know their allegiance from the start.

[Grover]

Sigh.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Grover

Sigh.

We tried.. the results were as expected.

[JAG]

Good work village. Thanks Zinto. Agreed that a cultist is usually a fun addition.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

And path, I seriously had you targeted for the night kill last night until ten minutes to go and I made the executive decision to switch to chief. I wasn't kidding when I said I was upset today, but not at the team, just myself. You were the smart kill and I convinced myself otherwise.

I was kind of kicking myself for coming out against it because as Zinto knows I had already thought I had left way too many hints about being the seer.

[Shoveler]

guess I can log back into steam.. I was trying to look as pissed as possible so I was exiting out of all my programs.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

And path, I seriously had you targeted for the night kill last night until ten minutes to go and I made the executive decision to switch to chief. I wasn't kidding when I said I was upset today, but not at the team, just myself. You were the smart kill and I convinced myself otherwise.

I honestly don't think it would've changed much. You would get voted out today, I laid out the case for Autumn being clear before path's as an result, we follow path's breadcrumbs on EF, and are still lead to Grover for he same reasons. Voting Raven out was the key for the village.

[Raven]

The NK on britrock essentially gave us 2 D1s, because of so much focus on EF. We knew EF would still have a lot of focus on D2, so he'd get at least some of the votes, and the other focus would most likely be on another villager.

Things actually were going exactly that way as 30 mins after N1, EF already had 2 votes. If EF doesn't lock himself in on Shoveler so early after N1, the voting for D2 would have likely been all over the place.

A few people said that NK on Brit was not a good move, but I think they actually didn't understand it. I still like the move, but think EF locking in on Shoveler had a negative snowball effect on us.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by JAG

Good work village. Thanks Zinto. Agreed that a cultist is usually a fun addition.

Most fun I ever had was being a cultist in the Draft game. Just got to cause havoc for much of the game (fun when even getting killed helps your cause).

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by JAG

I honestly don't think it would've changed much. You would get voted out today, I laid out the case for Autumn being clear before path's as an result, we follow path's breadcrumbs on EF, and are still lead to Grover for he same reasons. Voting Raven out was the key for the village.

Yes, but my reveal set me up to be the sacrifice. However, Raven ended up getting lynched and everything went to shit in a matter of minutes.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Raven

but think EF locking in on Shoveler had a negative snowball effect on us.

See, not a meaningless vote.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

Yes, but my reveal set me up to be the sacrifice. However, Raven ended up getting lynched and everything went to shit in a matter of minutes.

That was crappy luck for you guys.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

Yes, but my reveal set me up to be the sacrifice. However, Raven ended up getting lynched and everything went to shit in a matter of minutes.

+1 It was a brutal stretch for you guys. In most games that vote probably ends up on Autumn.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

That was crappy luck for you guys.

Oh well, we learn.

[path12]

Agree on the Raven vote ending up key. That's why I think the balance was fine, you just had bad luck to have the fake reveal save one but land on another wolf.

[Grover]

I had one good game, the first. Perhaps this is not for me.

[path12]

Thanks again, Zinto and everyone, I had a great time. Three games in a row werewolves me out for awhile, but I'm sure I'll be back in eventually.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Grover

I had one good game, the first. Perhaps this is not for me.

It's an ebb and flow kind of thing. You'll have stretches where you will feel dialed in and playing great and you'll have stretches where you ask yourself if you have any clue at all. I feel like I have had more of the latter than the former but keep plugging away.

[Raven]

Btw, thanks for hosting, Zinto.

I actually think that being a wolf this game will help me be a better villager in later games.

[JAG]

Honestly, this was a hell of a lot of good villagers you played against.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Grover

I had one good game, the first. Perhaps this is not for me.

I wouldn't say that. Just remember alot of these guys have played this game for years. I know in this game I found myself staring at whatever I wrote for what felt like forever trying to look at it from every angle to see how I thought I was going to get trapped. I wrote so many posts that never made it to the thread.

Just need to keep plugging away at it I would imagine.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

It's an ebb and flow kind of thing. You'll have stretches where you will feel dialed in and playing great and you'll have stretches where you ask yourself if you have any clue at all. I feel like I have had more of the latter than the former but keep plugging away.

That's also totally true.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Grover

I had one good game, the first. Perhaps this is not for me.

You'd be missed... who else would I list twice in my posts! It'll turn back around... keep at it man!

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Grover

I had one good game, the first. Perhaps this is not for me.

You haven't even been able to get into the flow of a role. You started as single person bad team, then went to a power role and now you were a wolf on an all newbie team. Trust me it gets easier or at least more comfortable.