Historical Nation Draft

[Coffee Warlord]

Izulde, then me, correct?

[Galaril]

Yes.

[Izulde]

Just got in, but I need to head out for a bit and then be back.

[Izulde]

Edit: Ineligible pick

[Surtt]

Originally Posted by Izulde

9.6 Golden Gate Bridge - Man-made Structure - United States - 20th Century

An international symbol still today, it ranks as one of the Seven Modern Wonders of the World by the American Societyit of Civil Engineers. Not only is it an icon, but it serves the practical purpose of connecting a city to an island. Implicit in its presence is that this new nation of ours has at least one considerable waterway, which will be important for transport and more fertile land to grow food on.

8.2 - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Surtt

8.2 - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th

Argh, sorry. Missed that. *goes back to drawing board*

[Izulde]

9.6 - Satoru Iwata - Economist - Japan - 20th Century

After the seeming collapse of Nintendo as a legitimate heavyweight in the television video game console market after the debacles with the N64 and the Gamecube, Iwata led Nintendo back to the forefront, riding this generation's hottest system, the Wii, which has proceeded to smash untold numbers of records.

Named one of Barron's top CEOs, his brilliance in understanding the economic climate and leading a storied company back to headliner prominence is an amazing accomplishment. Now he moves on from restoring Nintendo's luster to chartering the financial future for our nation.

[Coffee Warlord]

9.7 Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th

One of the most notorious and successful privateers in the Carribbean, Morgan spent the bulk of his time operating out of Port Royale (where he was Governor for a time), carving up the Spanish Main.

He, unlike most pirates, actually retired very much alive.

[Coffee Warlord]

Take that, whoever blocked the British Navy.

[Surtt]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

9.7 Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th

One of the most notorious and successful privateers in the Carribbean, Morgan spent the bulk of his time operating out of Port Royale (where he was Governor for a time), carving up the Spanish Main.

He, unlike most pirates, actually retired very much alive.

GAH!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

not sure if we're stalled on me or not...if so I apologize. been dealing with computer problems all night - trying to get it all backed up so I can send it in for service on monday but everytime I go to create a disc image it starts taking forever n freezing

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

not sure if we're stalled on me or not...if so I apologize. been dealing with computer problems all night - trying to get it all backed up so I can send it in for service on monday but everytime I go to create a disc image it starts taking forever n freezing

No worries. I think you are up since Coffee went last.

[DaddyTorgo]

not sure what pick # I am in this round (on my phone right now), but don't want to hold this up any longer

9.8 - Themistocles, Naval Chief, Greece, Pre-20th century

[Galaril]

Who's up?

[Abe Sargent]

Wondering if someone was going to take Themistocles

[DaddyTorgo]

yep. he was 1/1a with Tirpitz. figured it'd be hard to pass by the guy who essentially won the naval battle that enabled the rise of Western civilization though

[DaddyTorgo]

and FYI - if I've got to pick later in the day I'll have to do it from my phone, i'm about to wipe my HD's and get this laptop ready to send in to HP for service tomorrow morning

so i'd appreciate it if the person before me sent me a PM just so that pops up so that otherwise i can ignore the thread till tomorrow morning at work

[ntndeacon]

9.9 Niels Bohr-Scientist-Denmark-20th century

[Danny]

9.10 Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century

[Abe Sargent]

Nice, two pikcs, boom boom

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Danny

9.10 Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century

DAMN, THAT WAS MY NEXT PICK

[Galaril]

9.11 Peter I The Great, Naval Commander-Russia, pre-20th century

"The father of the Russian Navy"

[Danny]

Wow, glad I took him over the pick I was planning for 10.3, wasn't sure which I should take first, but thought Hayek was the better choice to take first

[Abe Sargent]

Lathu m is around in the WW right now, so hopefully he'll pop on over in the next few

[Lathum]

gimme a few

[Abe Sargent]

See?

[Lathum]

9.12-Geographical Location -Great Barrier Reef- Australia- 20th Century

[Lathum]

10.1- Religous Leader- Joseph Smith- Pre 20th Century Founder of the Mormons

[Galaril]

10.2 Saint Patrick, Religious Leader - Ireland(UK), Pre-20th century

[Danny]

10.3 Michiel de Ruyter, Naval Commander - Netherlands, Pre-20th Century

[Abe Sargent]

I like de Ruyter

[Abe Sargent]

Boom, Boom ,Boom. The picks fall!

[Danny]

Thanks, he was next on my list after BK's pick. I was happy to see him last even with the run on naval commanders.

[Abe Sargent]

larry, i know there is some work involved, but I would love to see the first post updated when you get a chance. Thanks!

[Abe Sargent]

Tell, you what, in order to be helpful, I'll get the picks updated, and you can cut and paste it, and do the rest.

[Abe Sargent]

Draft Order

Round 1

1. Apathetic Lurker - Sun Tzu, Army Chief, China, Pre-20th
2. surtt - Julius Cesar, Leader/Ruler, Italy, pre-20th
3. Abe Sargent - Alexander the Great, Army Chief, Greece, pre-20th
4. Barkeep49 - Adam Smith, Economist, Great Britain, Pre-20th
5. Noop - Oil Fields of Saudi Arabia, Geographical Location, Saudi Arabia, Pre-20th
6. Izulde - Manfred "The Red Baron" von Richthofen, Air Chief, Germany, 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Jesus Christ, Religious Leader, Israel, Pre-20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther King Jr., Civil Rights Activist, USA, 20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Horatio Nelson, Navy Chief, Great Britain, pre-20th century
10. Danny - Muhammad, Religious Leader, Saudi Arabia, pre-20th
11. Galaril - Abraham Lincoln, Leader/Ruler, United States, Pre-20th
12. Lathum - Nelson Mandela, Civil Rights, South Africa, 20th

Round 2

1. Lathum - Leonardo Da Vinci, Artist, Italy, pre-20th
2. Galaril - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Army Chief, United States, 20th
3. Danny - Mahatma Ghandi, Civil Rights Leader, India, 20th
4. ntndeacon - Karl Marx, Economist, Germany, pre-20th
5. DaddyTorgo - John Kenneth Galbraith, Economist, United States, 20th
6. Coffee Warlord - Albert Einstein, Scientist, Germany, 20th
7. Izulde - Jim Brown, Athlete, United States, 20th
8. Noop - King Solomon, Justice Minister, Israel, Pre-20th
9. Barkeep49 - John Glenn, Air Chief, United States, 20th
10. Abe Sargent - Marco Polo, Chief Diplomat, Italy, Pre-20th
11. surtt - Napoleon Bonaparte, Army Chief, France, pre-20th
12. Apathetic Lurker - Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th

Round 3

1. Apathetic Lurker - Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th
2. surtt - Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
3. Abe Sargent - Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th
4. Barkeep49 - Ghengis Khan, Millitary Leader, Mongolia, Pre-20th
5. Noop - Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th
6. Izulde - Otto von Bismarck, Chief Diplomat, Germany, Pre-20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - William Shakespeare, Artist, England, Pre 20th
8. DaddyTorgo - John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Theodore Roosevelt, Chief Diplomat, United States, 20th century
10. Danny - Aristotle, Scientist, Greece, Pre-20th
11. Galaril - Ben Franklin, Scientist - America, Pre 20th Century
12. Lathum - John Paul Jones, Naval Chief, United States, Pre-20th century

Round 4

1. Lathum - William Wallace, Army Chief, Great Britain, Pre-20th
2. Galaril - John Stuart Mills, Civil Rights Leader, Great Britain, Pre-20th
3. Danny - Adolph Hitler, Leader/Ruler - Germany, 20th century
4. ntndeacon - Tobias Michael Carel Asser, Justice Minister, The Netherlands, 20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Isaac Newton, Scientist, United Kingdom, Pre-20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Charlemagne, Leader/Ruler, France, Pre-20th
7. Izulde - Hammurabi, Justice Minister, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - Pele, Athlete, Brazil, 20th Century
9. Barkeep49 - Moses, Justice Minister, Egypt, Pre-20th
10. Abe Sargent - Mother Theresa, Civil Rights Activist, Albania, 20th
11. surtt - Louis Pasteur, Scientist, France, Pre-20th
12. Apathetic Lurker - Ibn Khaldoun, Economist, Tunisia, Pre-20th century

Round 5

1. Apathetic Lurker - Simon Bolivar, Civil Rights, Venezuela, Pre-20th Century
2. surtt - Sir Winston Churchill, Diplomat, UK, Post-20
3. Abe Sargent - Tōgō Heihachirō, Japan, Navy Chief, 20th
4. Barkeep49 - Marie Curie, Poland, Scientist, 20th Century
5. Noop - King David, Leader, Israel, Pre-20th Century
6. Izulde - Confucius, Civil Rights Leader, China, Pre-20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Erwin Rommel, Army Leader, Germany, Post 20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Mordechai Hod, Air Force Leader, Israel, 20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Attilla the Hun, Army Chief, Hungary, pre-20th century
10. Danny - Pope John Paul II, Chief Diplomat, Poland, 20th century
11. Galaril - Darius the Great, Iran , Justice Minister, Pre 20th century
12. Lathum - Great Wall of China, Manmade structure, China, pre-20th

Round 6

1. Lathum - Yuri Gagarin, Air Chief, Russia, 20th
2. Galaril - Pablo Picasso, Artist, Spain 20th
3. Danny - Alfred Hitchcock, Artist, United States, 20th century
4. ntndeacon - Alberto Santos, Dumont, Air Chief, Brazil, 20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century
7. Izulde - Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - James Joyce, Artist, Ireland, 20th Century
9. Barkeep49 - Tallyrand, Diplomat, France, Pre-20th Century
10. Abe Sargent - John Locke, Justice Minister, UK, Pre20th
11. surtt - Lech Walesa, Civil Rights Activist, Poland, 20th Century
12. Apathetic Lurker - En Hedu' Anna, Artist, Iraq, pre-20th century

Round 7

1. Apathetic Lurker - Ibn al-haytham, Scientist, Iraq, Pre-20th century
2. surtt - Billy Bishop, Air Chief, Canada, 20th Century
3. Abe Sargent - Sergey Korolyov, Air Chief, Ukraine, 20th
4. Barkeep49 - Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Civil Rights Activist, Burma, 20th Century
5. Noop - Saladin, Army Chief, Egypt, Pre-20th
6. Izulde - Mt. Everest, Geographic Location, China, 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Socrates, Justice Minister, Greece, Pre-20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Klemens Wenzel, Prince von Metternich, Chief Diplomat Austria, Pre-20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Great Pryamid at Giza-Man Made Structure, Egypt, pre 20th century
10. Danny - Isoroku Yamamoto, Air Chief, Japan, 20th
11. Galaril - Mikhail Gorbachev, Diplomat, Russia, 20th
12. Lathum - Mao Zedung, Leader/Ruler, China, 20th


Round 8

1. Lathum - Roger Bannister, Athlete, United Kingdom, 20th
2. Galaril - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th
3. Danny - Wayne Gretzky, Athlete, Canada, Post 20th century
4. ntndeacon - Diego Maradona-Athlete-Argentina-20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther, Religious Leader, Germany, Pre-20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Yasser Arafat, Diplomat, Egypt, 20th
7. Izulde - Rodrigo "El Cid" Diaz de Vivar - Military Chief - Spain - Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - Saint Augustine - Religious Leader - Algeria- Pre20th Century
9. Barkeep - Yi Sun-sin Naval Chief Korea Pre-20th
10. Abe - Sigmund Freud, Scientist, Austria, 20th
11. Surtt - Vincent van Gogh, Artist, Netherlands, Pre-20th
12. Apathetic Lurker - Karl Doenitz, Naval Chief, Germany 20th


Round 9


1. Apathetic Lurker - British Isles, Geographic Location, UK, 20th
2. Surtt - Panama Canal, Man made Structure, Panama, Post-20th
3. Abe - Miyamoto Musashi, Athelete, Japan, Pre20th
4. Barkeep - Sulieman the Magnificent Turkey Ruler/Leader Pre-20th Century
5. Noop - Xiao Gang - Economist - China - 20th Century
6. Izulde - Satoru Iwata - Economist - Japan - 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Themistocles, Naval Chief, Greece, Pre-20th century
9. ntndeacon - Niels Bohr-Scientist-Denmark-20th century
10. Danny - Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century
11. Galaril - Peter I The Great, Naval Commander-Russia, pre-20th century
12. Lathum - Great Barrier Reef, Geographical Location, Australia- 20th Century


Round 10

1. Lathum - Religous Leader- Joseph Smith- Pre 20th Century, USA?
2. Galaril - Saint Patrick, Religious Leader - Ireland(UK), Pre-20th century
3. Danny - Michiel de Ruyter, Naval Commander - Netherlands, Pre-20th Century
4. ntndeacon - Chi'ang Kai-shek --- Leader/Ruler---Taiwan---20th Century



There we are, all up to date.


Lathum didn;t choose a country for Smith

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe he meant to pick whackoville?

[ntndeacon]

I am sorry about this but I have a problem with Puerto Rico being considered a separate country.

[Abe Sargent]

Agreed

[Abe Sargent]

I totally missed it, but you are right.

[DaddyTorgo]

agreed

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am sorry about this but I have a problem with Puerto Rico being considered a separate country.

They do compete separately at the Olympics.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I am sorry about this but I have a problem with Puerto Rico being considered a separate country.

Yep, if Scotland can't be considered a country, doesn't seem like Puerto Rico should be able to be either.

[larrymcg421]

Sorry, but Puerto Rico is United States and cannot be used as a separate country.

Thanks for the updated draft list. Been a little busy today, but I'll try to get a full update on the first page tonight.

[Danny]

BTW, don't know if anyone noticed yet, but I have yet to pick any two people from the same country. I am going diverse!

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Sorry, but Puerto Rico is United States and cannot be used as a separate country.

Thanks for the updated draft list. Been a little busy today, but I'll try to get a full update on the first page tonight.

Wow, I am getting old Puerto Rico is part of the States and Pluto isn't a planet anymore;( I chnaged it to St.Pat, religious leader.

[Lathum]

smith should be in the US. And I agree, Puerto Rico is in the US. IMO the olympic argument doesn't fly since baseball isn't an olympic sport.

[ntndeacon]

10.4 Chi'ang Kai-shek --- Leader/Ruler---Taiwan---20th Century

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

10.4 Chi'ang Kai-shek --- Leader/Ruler---Taiwan---20th Century

interesting pick

[ntndeacon]

yea I figured I needed a 20th century leader. And I was going back and forth over 2 of them.