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Old 05-30-2011, 10:19 PM   #51
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Just failed the hacker mission 4 more times. Every time I seem to find a new way to screw up the first turn and lose my shotgun guy, which pretty much seals my fate. I like the challenge, but if all the subsequent levels are this hard, I might get tired of the frustration.

I think that hacker mission was the toughest I've dealt with so far.

A tip that may or may not help...I kept thinking that the AI didn't know where my guys were (no idea why I thought that) but after getting it through my head that I wasn't sneaking up on them I found myself making better decisions.

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Old 05-30-2011, 11:14 PM   #52
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I think that hacker mission was the toughest I've dealt with so far.

A tip that may or may not help...I kept thinking that the AI didn't know where my guys were (no idea why I thought that) but after getting it through my head that I wasn't sneaking up on them I found myself making better decisions.

This does seem helpful, I've been assuming the same thing. I figured all they knew was the location of qthe hacker, so I made all my assumptions based on them moving in that general direction, looking for those sight lines, etc. My attempts tomorrow will hopefully be more fruitful with this newfound knowledge
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:31 PM   #53
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This does seem helpful, I've been assuming the same thing. I figured all they knew was the location of qthe hacker, so I made all my assumptions based on them moving in that general direction, looking for those sight lines, etc. My attempts tomorrow will hopefully be more fruitful with this newfound knowledge

I could be wrong but I think they look for other movement first. I noticed that I wasable to free up my shotgun if I kept him out of sight that first turn. The red started to move on the hacker at that point and I was able to use the shotgun to get behind a couple that were near him. After getting them I was able to set up a pretty good kill zone with my two.

Though maybe I read too much into what happened when I was successful (finally).

Also, as someone else mentioned; that one seems to be the hardest one so far (the next ones weren't as hard). I was also worried that the missions would keep getting harder.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:23 AM   #54
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Wow, great tips guys! I tried one last time before bed, and I think this info made all the difference as I finally succeeded. I definitely took different actions than I would have previously, and they paid off. So, thanks!

Oh, and this game is phenomenal!
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:09 AM   #55
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:23 AM   #56
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I overflow stacks while I consume snacks.

lol yes! some decent humor mixed in here and there
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:46 AM   #57
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boy I suck at this too Radii. I need a group of guys with all rocket launchers!
Funny thing I seem to do better when I have fewer guys.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:05 AM   #58
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boy I suck at this too Radii. I need a group of guys with all rocket launchers!
Funny thing I seem to do better when I have fewer guys.

I'm not very good yet either, 2-3 so far in multiplayer. Have definitely seen that I haven't thought things out well enough on some stages. Also had a problem with leaving guys too much in the open.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:08 AM   #59
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I DID see you chelelnge me to a game when I was offline., mckerney. I tried to accept but it wouldn't seem to jump in the right place. It also didn't tell me what server you were logged into.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:09 AM   #60
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On the bottom I had the advantage on him with positioning, though was disappointed to lose my shotgun at the bottom in round one. Up top I managed to get good position on his machine gun which came through guessing what he was going to do. I got kind of lucky taking out his last shotgun because if he saw me first I was dead. Thankfully I managed to get behind him, not sure how things would have gone for me if it was one on one between our last shotguns.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:10 AM   #61
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I DID see you chelelnge me to a game when I was offline., mckerney. I tried to accept but it wouldn't seem to jump in the right place. It also didn't tell me what server you were logged into.

Ah, I'm on server Texas 4.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:18 PM   #62
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I'm finding that playing some instant skirmishes is making the campaign easier for me - just practicing and getting the hang of things is helping a bit.
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Old 05-31-2011, 01:38 PM   #63
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I'm finding that playing some instant skirmishes is making the campaign easier for me - just practicing and getting the hang of things is helping a bit.

I've found playing some things out until you get to the point where you feel comfortable predicting the enemy moves and then making your plans from there helps a lot. In the game I posted the video of I was helped out by planning my opponents move I was helped out by playing through my enemies moves by figuring out that I my machine gun on the bottom right was dead in turn 2, but if I moved him back a bit I'd be able to get my shotgun to the cover in time I could take out his shotgun as he killed my machine gun. Then again by figuring out that my last machine gun up top was dead if his shotgun saw me first, but after mapping out where I thought his shotgun would be going I guess my machine gun could go up and stay out of his expected line of sight.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:01 PM   #64
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I decided to try out multiplayer today. After winning my first match easily, I have lost the next 5.
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Old 05-31-2011, 06:44 PM   #65
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I finished the tutorial and am now finding out how embarrassingly bad I am at the single-player campaign but having fun trying to learn and improve.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:08 PM   #66
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Hmm. Looking at it, it doesn't seem like it'd appeal to me. I'll have to watch the video later and see.
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:44 AM   #67
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This game keep unveiling new layers which I love. Finally connected online and it's pretty cool that you can actually load the games which were played to view them.


Believe that it is Texas 1 that I signed onto. I am EagleFan (should be easy to remember) if anyone wants to kick my butt sometime.
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:53 AM   #68
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I can't figure out how the play by email feature works in this game. I gave my free copy to a friend and would like to challenge him to a match but we both keep very different hours, so play by email is optimal for us. I went to create a match last night but when I enter his username it tells me he can't be found on the server... Does this mean that in order to begin a match, he has to be available and online at the time the match is created? If so, thats a real bummer for me. I hope I'm just doing something wrong...
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:47 PM   #69
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Had alot of fun with the demo, just don't have the funds for another cpu game purchase atm.. dropped 1500 on another work car.. ugh

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Old 06-03-2011, 11:56 AM   #70
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Gamersgate still has this on sale for 20, and I'm still interested if anyone wants to split the cost.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:53 PM   #71
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:57 PM   #72
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Multi-player is a lot of fun. Haven't run into any a-holes yet which is also a good thing.

Just had my best game yet. An underdog going into the game and took out two of his men in the first turn. Ended up pitching a shut out. Loved it.

Not like I have played multi-player much yet though; only 5-3 so far. I see some people on there with tons of games under their belt; they must have 10 games going at once all the time.
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:13 PM   #73
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I am going to bump this here too. Steam has the deal of the day! 2 copies for 12.49. I am anxious to give it a try.
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Old 07-04-2011, 07:33 PM   #74
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Wow - I had not heard of this game. Between the above comments and that TotalBiscuit video, I'm sold. If my son is not interested in playing, I'll edit this post for the 2nd copy.

Edit: My son did take my 2nd copy.

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Old 07-04-2011, 07:47 PM   #75
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I bought it today. Let me know if you need a copy.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:08 PM   #76
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If anybody has a 2nd copy that they don't need, I'd like to try it out. Sounds like people are having fun with it but I just bought Magicka and Bioshock 2 a few days ago.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:53 PM   #77
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I also bought it today, so if I have a free copy. Just send me an email or steam name and I can get it out to you.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:54 PM   #78
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Id love a 2nd copy if anyone has a spare.. otherwise will just catch the next deal
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Old 07-05-2011, 09:09 AM   #79
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I bought it today. Let me know if you need a copy.
Thanks, but I actually meant I would offer up my 2nd copy if my son didn't seem interested in the game. But he liked it, and he's already beaten me twice. I won the last one after the 8th turn time limit (I suppose because I had 2 guys left and he had only one, but not sure...).
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Old 07-05-2011, 09:11 AM   #80
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So it looks like the player find is definitely case sensitive, and both players need to be online at the same time. Has that been your experience as well?

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Old 07-05-2011, 01:52 PM   #81
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I purchased in the sale yesterday, have one spare key to give out. PM me with your steam user id if you want it. I'll also be up for some PBEM once I figure out the basics.

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Old 07-06-2011, 09:06 AM   #82
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Man do I truly, truly suck at this. Have not beat the first single-player mission yet. I'm so used to fog-of-war games and sneaking around undetected that it's taking a while for me to get used to the fact that the enemy knows exactly where I am and play it more like chess than a tactical combat game.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:10 AM   #83
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Man do I truly, truly suck at this. Have not beat the first single-player mission yet. I'm so used to fog-of-war games and sneaking around undetected that it's taking a while for me to get used to the fact that the enemy knows exactly where I am and play it more like chess than a tactical combat game.

Have you tried the tutorial?

I gave it a shot this morning and ended up losing connection the server and couldn't play any more from what I can tell. I plan on getting into this heavily tonight.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:18 AM   #84
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Yeah, I played the tutorial. I know HOW to do what I want to do, it's just that WHAT I want to do is so wrong for this game. I need to stop thinking "sneaky", and that's hard for me given the tactical combat trappings.
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Old 07-06-2011, 11:36 AM   #85
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Some of the sneaky will come back when you start playing "dark" multi-player games. I find those to be a lot more fun.
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Old 07-06-2011, 12:31 PM   #86
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If anyone has a spare key, I totally want. Need to be cool with my cash right now, otherwise I'd already have it.
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Old 07-07-2011, 12:09 PM   #87
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Damn I suck at this game...

If anyone wants to pad their record, I'm SgtSlayer and usually log into the Texas server.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:09 AM   #88
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Damn I suck at this game...

If anyone wants to pad their record, I'm SgtSlayer and usually log into the Texas server.

Challenge issued!
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:12 AM   #89
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I'm PilotMan, as if anyone had any doubts. I haven't tried any MP games yet, as I am still trying to get the hang of this set up. It took a few tries just to make it through the first series in the campaign.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:40 AM   #90
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I'm PilotMan, as if anyone had any doubts. I haven't tried any MP games yet, as I am still trying to get the hang of this set up. It took a few tries just to make it through the first series in the campaign.

I'm on the Texas server, johnnyshaka.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:30 AM   #91
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Texas, gstelmack, and yes I've stopped the singleplayer and am only playing "Dark" multiplayer, much more fun.
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Old 07-09-2011, 06:19 PM   #92
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Mucho gracias to Groundhog for the gift, I'm on as CoffeeWarlord on Texas, and I suck.
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:59 PM   #93
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I've just finished 3 straight campaign missions without losing a guy. I think I am getting lucky with where my guys are at, or else I just really understand the different guys so far, and the advantages and disadvantages of each.
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:53 AM   #94
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The collect the keys mission is just giving me fits.
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:18 AM   #95
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That's funny, that's the mission that I just finished yesterday. I was so pleased I was going to post it on youtube but I had an encoding error and it didn't work.
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:18 AM   #96
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FINALLY.

As I was left with nothing but my sniper, dancing circles around the single enemy left, till I finally lucked out and got him.
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:19 AM   #97
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I still suck at multi-player. Maybe I should do the Single Player campaign first to help me understand the players and their abilities a little better...
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:43 PM   #98
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Alright, I put together everyone's names that I could find in this thread. If you want to be added to the list just post it here.

It seems like most of us are either on Texas or Texas4 (I go back and forth between them).

McKerney ~ RockinRanger
Mizzou B-ball fan ~ Mizzou Nation??
Fidatelo ~ Code Baboon
EagleFan ~ EagleFan
tyketime ~ SgtSlayer
PilotMan ~ PilotMan
johnnyshaka ~ johnnyshaka
gstelmack ~ gstelmack
Coffee Warlord ~ CoffeeWarlord
BrianD ~ BrianD
Groundhog ~ Groundhog
Lonnie ~ DarkJoker

If gstelmack wants to repost this on the front page for ease of recall be my guest.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:18 PM   #99
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You can add BrianD ~ BrianD to the list.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:18 PM   #100
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I'm on Texas as Groundhog, but I'm pretty terrible at this stage - only got about 30 mins of playing in since I purchased it.
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