2010 Midterm Election - Page 2

SirFozzie · 11-02-2010, 09:15 PM

oh, and in a sigh of relief, Alan Grayson, who had appointed himself the Dems resident bomb-thrower and ran a really dirty campaign from the left (the Taliban Dan commercials?) has lost as well.

SirFozzie · 11-02-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

I'm planning on submitting a proposition in my state to ban political robocalls.

20 Calls from recordings in two days is ridiculous.

It's politically protected speech. Will never happen.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2010, 09:27 PM

In the Atlanta suburb of Cherokee County, Robert Rechsteiner (aka Rick Steiner of WCW fame) is headed to another term on the county school board, running unopposed as a Republican.

stevew · 11-02-2010, 09:27 PM

We're robocalling you to urge you to go out tomorrow and vote for issue 16; the Robocall ban.

Drake · 11-02-2010, 09:27 PM

I'm all for robocalls. They help me know who to vote against.

Then again, I voted against more candidates today than I voted for. In almost all of those cases, it was because I saw their political attack ads and was able to pick out the fabrications without even having to look it up. The tally was pretty evenly split between red and blue, and when I had stupid ads on both sides, I voted Libertarian.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 09:30 PM

I haven't been following politics of Louisiana but how did Vitter get so popular? I know it's a red state, would have thought that they would have knocked him out in a primary. I mean he was caught dressing up in diapers and fucking prostitutes. How did he get a pass on that?

DanGarion · 11-02-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

It's politically protected speech. Will never happen.

Which is complete bullshit. If I choose not to hear it I shouldn't have to hear it. I pay for my phone, they don't. There should be an OPT in option. Protected speech means you can say what you want, it doesn't mean I have to be subjected to it.

I'm not against human calls, only robotic calls.

stevew · 11-02-2010, 09:31 PM

Holy shit...Rich Boucher lost. That was heavily unexpected?

Alan T · 11-02-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

In the Atlanta suburb of Cherokee County, Robert Rechsteiner (aka Rick Steiner of WCW fame) is headed to another term on the county school board, running unopposed as a Republican.

That is the school district my mother used to teach at. (She taught at Woodstock High School) Well technically she also taught for a while in Cobb too though.

sterlingice · 11-02-2010, 09:32 PM

Ok, I'm just a little worried when I hear Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, et al, talk about how we're in the greatest country in the history of the world. That sounds like pre-fall of Rome talk.

SI

stevew · 11-02-2010, 09:33 PM

D-VA. Abingdon area. Has been in office 20 some years.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

It's politically protected speech. Will never happen.

How does a machine have protected speech? I can understand it with phone calls by people, but it's a machine.

And not all speech is protected. I can't come and stand in front of your house screaming at the top of my lungs all night. I can't attach speakers to the outside of my car and blast music through certain neighborhoods. When your speech effects the rights of others, then it's not protected.

Abe Sargent · 11-02-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Ok, I'm just a little worried when I hear Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, et al, talk about how we're in the greatest country in the history of the world. That sounds like pre-fall of Rome talk.

SI

What do you expect them to say when we are evaluating America? We're okay? Not too shabby? Got a good beat and I can dance to it?

SirFozzie · 11-02-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

Which is complete bullshit. If I choose not to hear it I shouldn't have to hear it. I pay for my phone, they don't. There should be an OPT in option. Protected speech means you can say what you want, it doesn't mean I have to be subjected to it.

I'm not against human calls, only robotic calls.

You see, who votes for this? Politicians. Who'd be inconvenienced by this? Poliiticians.

You have one state where it's banned, New Hampshire, but the rest of them, you're asking the fox to vote on better protecting chicken houses.

sterlingice · 11-02-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

What do you expect them to say when we are evaluating America? We're okay? Not too shabby? Got a good beat and I can dance to it?

Greatest country in the history of the world? Shouldn't this be more of a time for reflection at what went wrong and working hard to change things?

SI

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Ok, I'm just a little worried when I hear Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, et al, talk about how we're in the greatest country in the history of the world. That sounds like pre-fall of Rome talk.

SI

lordscarlet · 11-02-2010, 09:38 PM

Go DC!

http://twitter.com/DCBOEE/status/29483022277

SirFozzie · 11-02-2010, 09:42 PM

Current over/under for Republican take is now up to 57 or so seats, per 538

Poli · 11-02-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Missouri had a big senate race. Blunt (R) Vs. Carnahan (D).
Both are sleaze bags in my opinion. I voted 3rd party.

EDIT: Blunt leads 59% to 36%

My district option is Martin and Carnahan. I feel screwed either way.

SirFozzie · 11-02-2010, 09:54 PM

Well, it's going to be interesting, 538 just upped their prediction to Republican House wave to 60 seats, but the Democrats to have 52-53 seats in the senate, which will be huge, because it will keep Lieberman and Ben Nelson from flipping the Senate if they went red.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 09:58 PM

I was kind of hoping that it would flip in both. Not really for political reasons, but Republicans would then be in charge of passing bills to fix the problems they see (they won't cut spending no matter what they say0. They can still use the Democratic Senate as an excuse.

Would rather people just see that it doesn't fucking matter what party controls the House or Senate. Although partisians are forever blinded from holding their party responsible for anything.

JPhillips · 11-02-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I haven't been following politics of Louisiana but how did Vitter get so popular? I know it's a red state, would have thought that they would have knocked him out in a primary. I mean he was caught dressing up in diapers and fucking prostitutes. How did he get a pass on that?

Duh. He's a family values Republican.

stevew · 11-02-2010, 10:08 PM

This Sestak thing is going down to the wire

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 10:08 PM

Interesting Senate races in PA and Illinois:

Pennsylvania - Election Results 2010 - The New York Times

Illinois - Election Results 2010 - The New York Times

I have a feeling that Sestak may pull it out in PA. Illinois looks like a lot of the vote has already come in from Cook County, so I'd give Kirk the advantage to catch up, but the third parties there look like they are having a bit of an impact (5%+ between the top two "third parties," in a really close race.

JPhillips · 11-02-2010, 10:08 PM

This is like Ole Yeller for the Blue Dogs.

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 10:10 PM

Also, looks like Oliverio is probably going to lose a tight one to McKinley in WV-01. McKinley is leading by about 1.5%, but I think most of Oliverio's home county has been counted.

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 10:18 PM

I'm wondering if the Republicans would be better off avoiding the repeal of healthcare reform because I can see them getting bogged down with trying to find something that will pass the Senate (and presumably need Obama's signature?) and making the public fatigued with it (once again).

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm wondering if the Republicans would be better off avoiding the repeal of healthcare reform because I can see them getting bogged down with trying to find something that will pass the Senate (and presumably need Obama's signature?) and making the public fatigued with it (once again).

Political suicide to repeal healthcare reform. It's all rhetoric. They aren't going to cut spending. Just the same ole Washington.

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Political suicide to repeal healthcare reform. It's all rhetoric. They aren't going to cut spending. Just the same ole Washington.

I agree, but I wonder if they will even take a swing at it.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I agree, but I wonder if they will even take a swing at it.

Nope. Will never get through the Senate and Obama would veto anything. Plus people don't like having things taken from them and it leaves a lot of them vulnerable.

They'll pick some wedge issues that don't really matter and run out the clock till 2012 like the Democrats did from 2006-2008.

Abe Sargent · 11-02-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Political suicide to repeal healthcare reform. It's all rhetoric. They aren't going to cut spending. Just the same ole Washington.

That's not always the case though. The 94 REpublican change actually dsid what they said they would do. Among other things, they passed the Line Item Veto to give a sitting President, Democrat, and not in a time of crisis, more power over them. Because they believed it was right. That was horrible politics. The Repubs who ran that year were the true beleivers, because no one thought they would win teh house for the first time in forever. Then, in 96, you began to see power people run and win, those who wanted power for themselves, and now that their party was in charge, they ran. But for two years, the Repubs were one of the most authentic group of lawmakers you could see.

stevew · 11-02-2010, 10:40 PM

Sestak up 24K votes with 86% reported.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Obama would veto anything.

I believe that's pretty much the plan (and probably has been at least ever since the internal numbers made it clear they weren't getting the Senate)

Doing so will be his downfall.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2010, 10:44 PM

South Carolina elects their first female governor, born in India & raised a Sikh, later baptized as a Methodist.

She's a pure Palin candidate, was nowhere until she got an endorsement from SP.

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 10:47 PM

If PA and Ill. stay close, it is going to be amusing watching the shenanigans in two of the most corrupt political cities in the nation.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I believe that's pretty much the plan (and probably has been at least ever since the internal numbers made it clear they weren't getting the Senate)

Doing so will be his downfall.

Even if they got the Senate, they weren't going to get this to his desk. And the longer the healthcare bill is in place, the less likely it is to be repealed. People realize it doesn't change squat and would take away some nice tax breaks for people and insurance for those with pre-existing conditions. Not sure how that turns into a win for the Republicans.

Once the bill passed, it was in for good. Their hope of winning was before it went into law as once it did, sane people would realize it had zero effect on them and positive on some.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

sane people will realize, sooner or late, that it has a negative affect on virtually everyone

Fixed that for you ... but for tonight, can we just agree to disagree on this one?
We'll pick back up tomorrow or whatever, but there's some pretty interesting races out there that probably ought to trump either one of our opinions. Fair enough?

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Fixed that for you ... but for tonight, can we just agree to disagree on this one?
We'll pick back up tomorrow or whatever, but there's some pretty interesting races out there that probably ought to trump either one of our opinions. Fair enough?

What will it do to people that is so negative?

stevew · 11-02-2010, 10:54 PM

Toomey likely to win by 10K or so.

Abe Sargent · 11-02-2010, 10:55 PM

I know I'm a Repub but I'm sad Feingold lost. I like true believers. The Senate was better with him in it.

stevew · 11-02-2010, 10:56 PM

Need to find some dead voters in Philly.

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 10:56 PM

It is weird to watch TV for such a long stretch without seeing a campaign commercial.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2010, 10:57 PM

If you like horse races, the Jim Marshal (D-GA8) race is a dandy.
http://www.sos.ga.gov/elections/elec...1102/00308.htm

Marshall trails by about 8,000 votes and it looks like all of his counties are in. He's been an incredibly tough candidate to run across for years & for a GOP youngster to beat him is a well run campaign. He's weathered all comers in recent years but it looks to me that his luck has run out.

A much bigger shock has been brewing tonight in GA2, where Sanford Bishop(D) has trailed most of the evening to state rep Mike Keown.
Page Not Found
Based on the votes still to be counted, I don't believe that Keown's 7,200 vote lead will hold up & expect Bishop to survive

JonInMiddleGA · 11-02-2010, 10:58 PM

Local TV (and likely ABC as well) just called Austin Scott the winner over Jim Marshall.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

What will it do to people that is so negative?

Or is this one of those things where we just say it but have nothing to really back it up. Like all the people screaming for cutting the deficit. Then asking what they want to cut to bring it down and disappear.

Easy to spout rhetoric if reality doesn't have to back it up.

RainMaker · 11-02-2010, 11:00 PM

I hope to God that the Illinois races don't come down to a re-count or one of those 5am things. Both are real close and I don't really care that much who wins, I just want to know one way or the other.

Drake · 11-02-2010, 11:04 PM

w00t! My favorite form of government is gridlock.

Izulde · 11-02-2010, 11:08 PM

I've never been more ashamed of my home state or of my home county. I was shocked to see Racine County with almost 70% for Walker and Johnson.

Wisconsin is a much worse place now for having lost Feingold.

Abe Sargent · 11-02-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

I've never been more ashamed of my home state or of my home county. I was shocked to see Racine County with almost 70% for Walker and Johnson.

Wisconsin is a much worse place now for having lost Feingold.

+1

Swaggs · 11-02-2010, 11:17 PM

Abe, if you are interested in following the Oliverio-McKinley count:

MetroNews Election Results -- Powered by Citynet

McKinley leads by about 1500 with 95% in. I'm assuming it will go into a recount if it sticks this close.

11-02-2010, 09:27 PM	#53
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	In the Atlanta suburb of Cherokee County, Robert Rechsteiner (aka Rick Steiner of WCW fame) is headed to another term on the county school board, running unopposed as a Republican. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 11-02-2010 at 09:27 PM.

11-02-2010, 09:27 PM	#55
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	I'm all for robocalls. They help me know who to vote against. Then again, I voted against more candidates today than I voted for. In almost all of those cases, it was because I saw their political attack ads and was able to pick out the fabrications without even having to look it up. The tally was pretty evenly split between red and blue, and when I had stupid ads on both sides, I voted Libertarian. Last edited by Drake : 11-02-2010 at 09:28 PM.

11-02-2010, 09:32 PM	#60
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Ok, I'm just a little worried when I hear Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, et al, talk about how we're in the greatest country in the history of the world. That sounds like pre-fall of Rome talk. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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11-02-2010, 09:42 PM	#68
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11-02-2010, 09:27 PM	#54
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	We're robocalling you to urge you to go out tomorrow and vote for issue 16; the Robocall ban.

11-02-2010, 09:30 PM	#56
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I haven't been following politics of Louisiana but how did Vitter get so popular? I know it's a red state, would have thought that they would have knocked him out in a primary. I mean he was caught dressing up in diapers and fucking prostitutes. How did he get a pass on that?

11-02-2010, 09:31 PM	#58
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Holy shit...Rich Boucher lost. That was heavily unexpected?

11-02-2010, 09:33 PM	#61
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	D-VA. Abingdon area. Has been in office 20 some years.

11-02-2010, 09:54 PM	#70
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Well, it's going to be interesting, 538 just upped their prediction to Republican House wave to 60 seats, but the Democrats to have 52-53 seats in the senate, which will be huge, because it will keep Lieberman and Ben Nelson from flipping the Senate if they went red. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-02-2010, 09:58 PM	#71
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I was kind of hoping that it would flip in both. Not really for political reasons, but Republicans would then be in charge of passing bills to fix the problems they see (they won't cut spending no matter what they say0. They can still use the Democratic Senate as an excuse. Would rather people just see that it doesn't fucking matter what party controls the House or Senate. Although partisians are forever blinded from holding their party responsible for anything.

11-02-2010, 10:08 PM	#73
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	This Sestak thing is going down to the wire

11-02-2010, 10:08 PM	#74
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Interesting Senate races in PA and Illinois: Pennsylvania - Election Results 2010 - The New York Times Illinois - Election Results 2010 - The New York Times I have a feeling that Sestak may pull it out in PA. Illinois looks like a lot of the vote has already come in from Cook County, so I'd give Kirk the advantage to catch up, but the third parties there look like they are having a bit of an impact (5%+ between the top two "third parties," in a really close race. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2010, 10:08 PM	#75
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11-02-2010, 10:10 PM	#76
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Also, looks like Oliverio is probably going to lose a tight one to McKinley in WV-01. McKinley is leading by about 1.5%, but I think most of Oliverio's home county has been counted. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2010, 10:18 PM	#77
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm wondering if the Republicans would be better off avoiding the repeal of healthcare reform because I can see them getting bogged down with trying to find something that will pass the Senate (and presumably need Obama's signature?) and making the public fatigued with it (once again). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2010, 10:40 PM	#82
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Sestak up 24K votes with 86% reported.

11-02-2010, 10:44 PM	#84
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	South Carolina elects their first female governor, born in India & raised a Sikh, later baptized as a Methodist. She's a pure Palin candidate, was nowhere until she got an endorsement from SP. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-02-2010, 10:47 PM	#85
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	If PA and Ill. stay close, it is going to be amusing watching the shenanigans in two of the most corrupt political cities in the nation. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-02-2010, 10:54 PM	#89
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Toomey likely to win by 10K or so.

11-02-2010, 10:55 PM	#90
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I know I'm a Repub but I'm sad Feingold lost. I like true believers. The Senate was better with him in it. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 11-02-2010 at 11:03 PM.

11-02-2010, 10:56 PM	#91
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Need to find some dead voters in Philly.

11-02-2010, 10:57 PM	#93
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	If you like horse races, the Jim Marshal (D-GA8) race is a dandy. http://www.sos.ga.gov/elections/elec...1102/00308.htm Marshall trails by about 8,000 votes and it looks like all of his counties are in. He's been an incredibly tough candidate to run across for years & for a GOP youngster to beat him is a well run campaign. He's weathered all comers in recent years but it looks to me that his luck has run out. A much bigger shock has been brewing tonight in GA2, where Sanford Bishop(D) has trailed most of the evening to state rep Mike Keown. Page Not Found Based on the votes still to be counted, I don't believe that Keown's 7,200 vote lead will hold up & expect Bishop to survive __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-02-2010, 10:58 PM	#94
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Local TV (and likely ABC as well) just called Austin Scott the winner over Jim Marshall. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-02-2010, 11:00 PM	#96
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I hope to God that the Illinois races don't come down to a re-count or one of those 5am things. Both are real close and I don't really care that much who wins, I just want to know one way or the other.

11-02-2010, 11:04 PM	#97
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	w00t! My favorite form of government is gridlock.

11-02-2010, 11:08 PM	#98
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11-02-2010, 11:17 PM	#100
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Abe, if you are interested in following the Oliverio-McKinley count: MetroNews Election Results -- Powered by Citynet McKinley leads by about 1500 with 95% in. I'm assuming it will go into a recount if it sticks this close. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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