Soccer Draft - Page 2

Big Fo · 03-31-2009, 07:06 PM

Rio <3

Round 2.5 selection: Frank Lampard, central midfield, Chelsea

Lampard is a great goalscoring midfielder (20+ goals each of the last three seasons and 15 so far this season) whether it's from long range or in the box and his creativity and work rate have been needed more than ever this season with Drogba only occasionally showing up and Essien missing eight months of the season. Arguably the EPL player of the season so far.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 07:50 PM

gah - guess i need to start coming up with my next 2 picks here!!

BishopMVP · 03-31-2009, 07:54 PM

Maybe it's just because I personally dislike the guy, but I was not going to pick Lampard. His reputation as a scoring midfielder ensures he'll go first 15-20 picks, but I feel like you need to build a team around him. His inability to work with Gerrard makes me question how you'll fit him in on a team with other star MF's.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 08:07 PM

see who Katon will pick, but i have 3-4 guys in mind so i'm confident i'll get good choices quickly

BishopMVP · 03-31-2009, 08:18 PM

I have 1 I'm really hoping will fall, and a 2nd/3rd I wouldn't mind at all, although it's not the direction I want to take my team now. If all 3 are gone in the next 5 picks, I'm deleting the thread

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 08:23 PM

Katon · 03-31-2009, 08:49 PM

Pick 2.6: Nemanja Vidic, CB, Manchester United

who I would argue has actually been in better form this season than Ferdinand.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 08:50 PM

nice one Katon. and you didn't grab either of the guys i was thinking of

Katon · 03-31-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Maybe it's just because I personally dislike the guy, but I was not going to pick Lampard. His reputation as a scoring midfielder ensures he'll go first 15-20 picks, but I feel like you need to build a team around him. His inability to work with Gerrard makes me question how you'll fit him in on a team with other star MF's.

I think Lampard's inability to work with Gerrard was mostly down to the fact that Gerrard's a horrible fit for a flat midfield four - he's not the most positionally disciplined player on the planet, and there's a reason that Benitez has switched to using him as a support striker.

Lampard's currently the runaway player of the season for a team with Ballack, Mikel, Essien, and Deco (not all of whom have been fit, admittedly). He's previously played well in two-man midfields (the last couple of seasons under Ranieri) and in a three-man midfield with Eidur Gudjohnsen as a midfielder (the second half of Mourinho's first year). He can adapt to different midfield setups.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 08:58 PM

so can i presume by "current form" we're talking about like...2008-2009, and not like "the last 3 weeks" or something? lol

Katon · 03-31-2009, 09:00 PM

I'd definitely interpret it that way.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 09:01 PM

me too

2.7 ZLATAN, Striker, Inter Milan
3.1 XAVI, Midfield, FC Barcelona

Katon · 03-31-2009, 09:08 PM

Nice picks - Xavi, in particular, I was seriously considering. Instead, I'll go for a clubmate of his, who's really the standout player at his position:

Pick 3.2 Dani Alves, RB, Barcelona

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 09:17 PM

nice pick with Dani Alves!!!

I'm not really "surprised" Zlatan was still on the board, but I'm relieved. Thought I might have to go a level down from him for my first striker.

I might look elsewhere for a RB but I can respect Dani

Big Fo · 03-31-2009, 09:30 PM

The strikers are going quick, I need to go ahead and pick one.

Pick 3.3 - David Villa, striker, Valencia

The Spanish forward has been banging them in for club and country the past two years (37 La Liga goals in 49 appearances, 13 in 19 for Spain including a Golden Boot on the way to their Euro 2008 victory). With his quickness and deadly skills around the goal he is one of the very best at his position.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 09:32 PM

yep - if Katon had taken Zlatan than Villa was going to be my other pick

BishopMVP · 03-31-2009, 09:36 PM

Xavi was the one I was really hoping would fall, and Vidic one of the two I mentioned as not being the way I wanted to go - 2 CB's in the first 3 picks would have been a bold strategy, even if it's the best 2 in the world. As for Vidic vs. Ferdinand, I was debating too. Vidic might have slightly better form this season, but I feel like Ferdinand's leadership abilities outweigh any slight difference there.

Big Fo · 03-31-2009, 09:42 PM

It's close between them. Ferdinand is quicker and better on the ball, Vidic scores more often from corner kicks.

BishopMVP · 03-31-2009, 09:59 PM

Haha - and Villa was the other one, but again, 2 strikers would have been bold. For my pick, he may not be the best pure Defensive mid out there, but I'm going with Daniele De Rossi, CM AS Roma/Italy. I think he'll fit in nicely and gives me some flexibility in the middle of the pitch.

BishopMVP · 03-31-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

It's close between them. Ferdinand is quicker and better on the ball, Vidic scores more often from corner kicks.

Yeah, it was really a coin flip there.

DaddyTorgo · 03-31-2009, 10:19 PM

nice pick bishop. he is certainly a classic DMC I'll give you that. there might be one or two i'd pick over him, but definitely not a huge number

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-01-2009, 06:33 AM

3.5 John Terry - CB Chelsea

Someone to ensure that my box is kept tidy and has the ability to score off set pieces as well.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-01-2009, 06:34 AM

Really wanted Zlatan, Alves or Villa but none there.

bhlloy · 04-01-2009, 11:06 AM

3.6 Gianluigi Buffon - GK Juventus/Italy - injured early in the year, but back and playing well. Still the clear #2 goalie in the world IMO. If nothing else, I'll have more international team captains than anyone else

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 11:26 AM

great value pick there bhlloy!!

best 2 GK's off the board. everyone else is a clear cut below.

GoldenEagle · 04-01-2009, 12:49 PM

3.7 - David Silva - A young, creative midfielder who is capable of breaking down even elite backlines.

GoldenEagle · 04-01-2009, 01:02 PM

4.1 - Wayne Rooney - I need a holding striker, and who better fits that then this guy? He scores goals, holds the ball up well, and bitches like no one else. Only concern would be his numerous injuries.

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

3.7 - David Silva - A young, creative midfielder who is capable of breaking down even elite backlines.

bah. he was on my radar

bhlloy · 04-01-2009, 02:02 PM

I was conflicted on whether to take Rooney or not with Kaka already on board. Thankfully I don't have to worry about that any more. I still need a target man, but I can only think of one guy here and I'm not sure he's playing well enough this season With that said...

4.2 Carles Puyol, CB Barcelona/Spain

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-01-2009, 02:05 PM

I'm going to need a ball winner, and Essien and Mascherano are already gone. Next up, then, is Esteban Cambiasso DM, Inter. He will win the ball and link up with Gerrard and Ribery to start the attack.

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I'm going to need a ball winner, and Essien and Mascherano are already gone. Next up, then, is Esteban Cambiasso DM, Inter. He will win the ball and link up with Gerrard and Ribery to start the attack.

damn - i was hoping he'd drop to me. asshole

Big Fo · 04-01-2009, 02:24 PM

NOTE: BishopMVP PM'd me saying he wouldn't be at a computer until 11pm tonight and gave me a list of players to choose the top one remaining for him and keep things moving

Round 4.4 - Maicon, right back, Internazionale

The Inter fullback is one of the top players in his position with quickness, defensive skills, in supporting the attack, and scores a decent amount from defense. Although perhaps overshadowed by Dani Alves on the club scene, Maicon is preferred by the Brazilian manager Dunga for his superior defensive qualities.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-01-2009, 02:25 PM

Perhaps somewhat naively I was hoping Maicon would make it back around

Big Fo · 04-01-2009, 02:39 PM

Pick 4.5 - Patrice Evra - left back, Manchester United

Initially I was reluctant to take a fullback so soon but looking at some of the other positions I feel there are a few players of similar quality around but the fullback positions aren't the deepest. Anyhow Patrice Evra is the world's best player at his position, good in the air, strong in the tackle, fast as hell, good dribbling skills, and covers tons of space. One minute he will make crucial interception in his own third, then the next he is behind the defense receiving a through ball from midfield and looking to send in a cross. The prototypical 21st century do-it-all fullback.

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Perhaps somewhat naively I was hoping Maicon would make it back around

Nope. Was hoping he'd fall to me with my next pick though

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 02:45 PM

if Katon doesn't make it back on to pick before i book out of here around 5 EST then my pick will have to wait till close to 7 EST when I get home in front of a computer. Assuming he doesn't take who I want I have at least one of them picked out but I want to think on the other...

Katon · 04-01-2009, 02:56 PM

Annoying that Cambiasso went - he would've been my next pick. Instead, I'll go for a player who's always been world-class when fit, and has actually been having a healthy year for once.

Pick 4.6 - Arjen Robben, LW, Real Madrid

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katon

Annoying that Cambiasso went - he would've been my next pick. Instead, I'll go for a player who's always been world-class when fit, and has actually been having a healthy year for once.

Pick 4.6 - Arjen Robben, LW, Real Madrid

so you would've stolen cambiasso from me then? a-hole!

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 03:24 PM

4.7 Sergio Ramos, RB/CB, Real Madrid
5.1 Marcos Senna, DMC, Villareal

There might be other players I could take (in fact I have a couple in mind who are higher on my mental board), but I feel like there's somewhat of a shortage in these two positions. The gulf in class starts to drop off precipitously.

Katon · 04-01-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

There might be other players I could take (in fact I have a couple in mind who are higher on my mental board), but I feel like there's somewhat of a shortage in these two positions. The gulf in class starts to drop off precipitously.

Senna was definitely the pick of the remaining DMs, but I thought the gap from him to my backup plans at the position was a bit less than the gap between a fit Robben and any of the undrafted wingers - especially after Silva went.

Pick 5.2 Giorgio Chiellini, CB, Juventus

Big Fo · 04-01-2009, 05:29 PM

Pick 5.3 - Lúcio - central defender, Bayern Munich

Kind of an underrated player imo, in part because the German league doesn't get as much pub as the big three perhaps. He is an excellent defender, strong and fast, and can even join the attack occasionally. He is quite experienced and has been a part of three Bundesliga winning sides in addition to the Brazilian 2002 WC winner's squad.

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katon

Senna was definitely the pick of the remaining DMs, but I thought the gap from him to my backup plans at the position was a bit less than the gap between a fit Robben and any of the undrafted wingers - especially after Silva went.

Pick 5.2 Giorgio Chiellini, CB, Juventus

fuck you!!! he was my sleeper-pick at CB and was gonna be my sweet sweet Juve hookup!

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Pick 5.3 - Lúcio - central defender, Bayern Munich

Kind of an underrated player imo, in part because the German league doesn't get as much pub as the big three perhaps. He is an excellent defender, strong and fast, and can even join the attack occasionally. He is quite experienced and has been a part of three Bundesliga winning sides in addition to the Brazilian 2002 WC winner's squad.

niiiice

BishopMVP · 04-01-2009, 10:43 PM

Sorry for the hold-up, didn't think it would get back to me this quick. I'm going with Sergio Aguero, Atletico Madrid/Argentina. Can play as a 9, a 10 or a side striker in a 4-3-3.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 04-01-2009, 10:49 PM

5.5 Thierry Henry LW Barcelona

He has found his role this year with Barca playing opposite Messi on the wing, and he will fill that same role on my team opposite Ribery.

BishopMVP · 04-01-2009, 10:53 PM

Didn't he come up as a winger too?

bhlloy · 04-01-2009, 10:56 PM

5.6 Phillip Lahm LB Bayern Munich/Germany

As good as Evra IMO, and there seems to be a run on fullbacks right now.

DaddyTorgo · 04-01-2009, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

5.6 Phillip Lahm LB Bayern Munich/Germany

As good as Evra IMO, and there seems to be a run on fullbacks right now.

fuck. he was my next pick. in fact, in one of my schools of thought i was going ramos/lahm and leaving dmc for later

BishopMVP · 04-01-2009, 11:12 PM

I was strongly considering Lahm as my pick and pairing him up with Maicon... but I just couldn't pass up Aguero this late. DT - doesn't Ramos play more CB now?

Big Fo · 04-01-2009, 11:16 PM

I'm pretty sure Real Madrid typically play Ramos at right back.

03-31-2009, 07:54 PM	#53
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Maybe it's just because I personally dislike the guy, but I was not going to pick Lampard. His reputation as a scoring midfielder ensures he'll go first 15-20 picks, but I feel like you need to build a team around him. His inability to work with Gerrard makes me question how you'll fit him in on a team with other star MF's. Last edited by BishopMVP : 03-31-2009 at 07:55 PM.

03-31-2009, 08:07 PM	#54
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	see who Katon will pick, but i have 3-4 guys in mind so i'm confident i'll get good choices quickly Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-31-2009 at 08:07 PM.

03-31-2009, 09:59 PM	#69
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Haha - and Villa was the other one, but again, 2 strikers would have been bold. For my pick, he may not be the best pure Defensive mid out there, but I'm going with Daniele De Rossi, CM AS Roma/Italy. I think he'll fit in nicely and gives me some flexibility in the middle of the pitch. Last edited by BishopMVP : 03-31-2009 at 10:01 PM.

03-31-2009, 10:19 PM	#71
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nice pick bishop. he is certainly a classic DMC I'll give you that. there might be one or two i'd pick over him, but definitely not a huge number Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-31-2009 at 10:20 PM.

04-01-2009, 06:33 AM	#72
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	3.5 John Terry - CB Chelsea Someone to ensure that my box is kept tidy and has the ability to score off set pieces as well. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

03-31-2009, 07:50 PM	#52
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	gah - guess i need to start coming up with my next 2 picks here!!

03-31-2009, 08:18 PM	#55
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I have 1 I'm really hoping will fall, and a 2nd/3rd I wouldn't mind at all, although it's not the direction I want to take my team now. If all 3 are gone in the next 5 picks, I'm deleting the thread

03-31-2009, 08:23 PM	#56
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol

03-31-2009, 08:49 PM	#57
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	Pick 2.6: Nemanja Vidic, CB, Manchester United who I would argue has actually been in better form this season than Ferdinand.

03-31-2009, 08:50 PM	#58
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nice one Katon. and you didn't grab either of the guys i was thinking of

03-31-2009, 08:58 PM	#60
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	so can i presume by "current form" we're talking about like...2008-2009, and not like "the last 3 weeks" or something? lol

03-31-2009, 09:00 PM	#61
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	I'd definitely interpret it that way.

03-31-2009, 09:01 PM	#62
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	me too 2.7 ZLATAN, Striker, Inter Milan 3.1 XAVI, Midfield, FC Barcelona

03-31-2009, 09:08 PM	#63
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	Nice picks - Xavi, in particular, I was seriously considering. Instead, I'll go for a clubmate of his, who's really the standout player at his position: Pick 3.2 Dani Alves, RB, Barcelona

03-31-2009, 09:17 PM	#64
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nice pick with Dani Alves!!! I'm not really "surprised" Zlatan was still on the board, but I'm relieved. Thought I might have to go a level down from him for my first striker. I might look elsewhere for a RB but I can respect Dani

03-31-2009, 09:30 PM	#65
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	The strikers are going quick, I need to go ahead and pick one. Pick 3.3 - David Villa, striker, Valencia The Spanish forward has been banging them in for club and country the past two years (37 La Liga goals in 49 appearances, 13 in 19 for Spain including a Golden Boot on the way to their Euro 2008 victory). With his quickness and deadly skills around the goal he is one of the very best at his position.

03-31-2009, 09:32 PM	#66
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yep - if Katon had taken Zlatan than Villa was going to be my other pick

03-31-2009, 09:36 PM	#67
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Xavi was the one I was really hoping would fall, and Vidic one of the two I mentioned as not being the way I wanted to go - 2 CB's in the first 3 picks would have been a bold strategy, even if it's the best 2 in the world. As for Vidic vs. Ferdinand, I was debating too. Vidic might have slightly better form this season, but I feel like Ferdinand's leadership abilities outweigh any slight difference there.

03-31-2009, 09:42 PM	#68
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	It's close between them. Ferdinand is quicker and better on the ball, Vidic scores more often from corner kicks.

04-01-2009, 06:34 AM	#73
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Really wanted Zlatan, Alves or Villa but none there. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

04-01-2009, 11:06 AM	#74
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	3.6 Gianluigi Buffon - GK Juventus/Italy - injured early in the year, but back and playing well. Still the clear #2 goalie in the world IMO. If nothing else, I'll have more international team captains than anyone else Last edited by bhlloy : 04-01-2009 at 11:06 AM.

04-01-2009, 11:26 AM	#75
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	great value pick there bhlloy!! best 2 GK's off the board. everyone else is a clear cut below.

04-01-2009, 12:49 PM	#76
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	3.7 - David Silva - A young, creative midfielder who is capable of breaking down even elite backlines. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014 Last edited by GoldenEagle : 04-01-2009 at 12:49 PM.

04-01-2009, 01:02 PM	#77
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	4.1 - Wayne Rooney - I need a holding striker, and who better fits that then this guy? He scores goals, holds the ball up well, and bitches like no one else. Only concern would be his numerous injuries. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

04-01-2009, 02:02 PM	#79
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I was conflicted on whether to take Rooney or not with Kaka already on board. Thankfully I don't have to worry about that any more. I still need a target man, but I can only think of one guy here and I'm not sure he's playing well enough this season With that said... 4.2 Carles Puyol, CB Barcelona/Spain

04-01-2009, 02:05 PM	#80
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I'm going to need a ball winner, and Essien and Mascherano are already gone. Next up, then, is Esteban Cambiasso DM, Inter. He will win the ball and link up with Gerrard and Ribery to start the attack. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

04-01-2009, 02:24 PM	#82
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	NOTE: BishopMVP PM'd me saying he wouldn't be at a computer until 11pm tonight and gave me a list of players to choose the top one remaining for him and keep things moving Round 4.4 - Maicon, right back, Internazionale The Inter fullback is one of the top players in his position with quickness, defensive skills, in supporting the attack, and scores a decent amount from defense. Although perhaps overshadowed by Dani Alves on the club scene, Maicon is preferred by the Brazilian manager Dunga for his superior defensive qualities.

04-01-2009, 02:25 PM	#83
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Perhaps somewhat naively I was hoping Maicon would make it back around __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

04-01-2009, 02:39 PM	#84
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Pick 4.5 - Patrice Evra - left back, Manchester United Initially I was reluctant to take a fullback so soon but looking at some of the other positions I feel there are a few players of similar quality around but the fullback positions aren't the deepest. Anyhow Patrice Evra is the world's best player at his position, good in the air, strong in the tackle, fast as hell, good dribbling skills, and covers tons of space. One minute he will make crucial interception in his own third, then the next he is behind the defense receiving a through ball from midfield and looking to send in a cross. The prototypical 21st century do-it-all fullback.

04-01-2009, 02:45 PM	#86
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	if Katon doesn't make it back on to pick before i book out of here around 5 EST then my pick will have to wait till close to 7 EST when I get home in front of a computer. Assuming he doesn't take who I want I have at least one of them picked out but I want to think on the other...

04-01-2009, 02:56 PM	#87
Katon College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Providence, RI	Annoying that Cambiasso went - he would've been my next pick. Instead, I'll go for a player who's always been world-class when fit, and has actually been having a healthy year for once. Pick 4.6 - Arjen Robben, LW, Real Madrid

04-01-2009, 03:24 PM	#89
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	4.7 Sergio Ramos, RB/CB, Real Madrid 5.1 Marcos Senna, DMC, Villareal There might be other players I could take (in fact I have a couple in mind who are higher on my mental board), but I feel like there's somewhat of a shortage in these two positions. The gulf in class starts to drop off precipitously.

04-01-2009, 05:29 PM	#91
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Pick 5.3 - Lúcio - central defender, Bayern Munich Kind of an underrated player imo, in part because the German league doesn't get as much pub as the big three perhaps. He is an excellent defender, strong and fast, and can even join the attack occasionally. He is quite experienced and has been a part of three Bundesliga winning sides in addition to the Brazilian 2002 WC winner's squad.

04-01-2009, 10:43 PM	#94
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Sorry for the hold-up, didn't think it would get back to me this quick. I'm going with Sergio Aguero, Atletico Madrid/Argentina. Can play as a 9, a 10 or a side striker in a 4-3-3.

04-01-2009, 10:49 PM	#95
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	5.5 Thierry Henry LW Barcelona He has found his role this year with Barca playing opposite Messi on the wing, and he will fill that same role on my team opposite Ribery. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 04-01-2009 at 10:49 PM.