Fantasy Football Keeper discussion

[Flipnosis]

Watch, you'll get Charles and make all of this discussion completely irrelevant.

[Flipnosis]

Out of pure curiosity, how did Charles get dropped?

[spleen1015]

I have to keep 10 from the list below.

Peyton Manning
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Arian Foster
Frank Gore
BenJarvis Green-Ellis
Willis McGahee
Dez Bryant
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Santana Moss
Domenik Hixon
Kevin Ogletree
Owen Daniels
Scott Chandler
Connor Barth

I think there are 8 easy ones.
Peyton Manning
Arian Foster
Frank Gore
BenJarvis Green-Ellis
Dez Bryant
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Owen Daniels

I am leaning Hixon and Ogletree. I don't know if it really matters though.

[JAG]

Ogletree is likely to be cut, so I wouldn't go with him.

[Danny]

I would keep none of them and I am serious. Yiu can get better guys off waivers after the draft.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Danny

I would keep none of them and I am serious. Yiu can get better guys off waivers after the draft.

That is my preference, but I have to keep 10. If I don't chose 10, 10 will be chosen for me.

I'll just keep whomever and cut them after week 1.

[Danny]

Ah yeah it doesn't much matter then, your group of 8 looks real good though

[TLK]

Looking to keep 2 of the 5 from this group. This is a deeper IDP dynasty and for every player I don't keep, I get an extra draft pick. The draft is pretty much non-keepers, left over free agents and rookies. As of now, I'm returning 7 players to the pool and if I give up 3 of these WR's... I'll have 10 picks in the draft. These guys will be 6 and 7 on my depth chart going into the draft, so this years production isn't that important. Anyone jump out of this group?

Criner, Juron OAK WR
Hawkins, Andrew CIN WR
Hixon, Domenik CAR WR
Morgan, Joseph NOS WR
Roberts, Andre ARI WR

[Julio Riddols]

Joseph Morgan. He could be a stud in short order. One of the biggest deep threats in the game from what I saw last year. I don't think anyone else from that group ever becomes fantasy relevant enough to cling to too tightly. Hawkins is probably the closest, but he is now kind of buried in a deep receiving corps.

[Qwikshot]

It appears that Harvin has a tear in the hip. Based on this I may have to revaluate my keeper process.

I'm just this is coming out now as opposed to later.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

It appears that Harvin has a tear in the hip. Based on this I may have to revaluate my keeper process.

I'm just this is coming out now as opposed to later.

Now, I have a few options:

Keep Julio Jones, Cobb and Antonio Gates (I know I know)

I could also

Keep Newton, Cobb and Antonio Brown (who I traded for and is keeper eligible)

I'm thinking though at this point, QB is deep...Julio and Cobb is a nice WR corp, go hard on runningback my 1st 3 picks and then look for what QB is still out there at my 4th pick (remember I have 4 picks in the 1st two rounds, then zero in the 3rd, then 1 high pick in the 4th)

[Danny]

I think I go with Cobb and jones now. The value downgrade from jones to brown is a lot bigger than to harvin

[TLK]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Joseph Morgan. He could be a stud in short order. One of the biggest deep threats in the game from what I saw last year. I don't think anyone else from that group ever becomes fantasy relevant enough to cling to too tightly. Hawkins is probably the closest, but he is now kind of buried in a deep receiving corps.

Unless something crazy happens in the next week... I'm going with Morgan and Criner. You talked me into Morgan.

[TLK]

I made a trade in my dynasty league yesterday. It's a .5 (rb)/1 ppr league. Any thoughts?

I traded:
QB Matthew Stafford
RB Mark Ingram
WR Hakeem Nicks
Pick 2.09 in this years draft

for

QB Joe Flacco
RB LeSean McCoy
WR Wes Welker

This leaves my offensive starting lineup as:
QB: Kaepernick
RB: McCoy and David Wilson
WR: Andre Johnson, Welker and Antonio Brown
TE: Graham

[Julio Riddols]

I think you got the good end of this deal.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by TLK

Unless something crazy happens in the next week... I'm going with Morgan and Criner. You talked me into Morgan.

Its worth noting that he caught 10 balls last year. They went for 379 yards and 3 scores. I don't even care about sample size. Almost 40 yards per catch over 10 catches is just flat out nutty. He did all that on 21 targets, which suggests he is an incredible deep threat, IMO.

He's a dude I would stash and start in a pinch before looking to the FA wire. His BPR bar is huge.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Ok, my turn for the keeper league I'm in. Keep 6 guys, no penalties or restrictions. Standard lineup with no flex (QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/K/D - 4 pts per passing TD, 0.5 ppr); the only wonky thing is that there is a 4 add/drop maximum for the whole year. We draft a deep bench (12 bench slots), and you're pretty much stuck with them all year. I've got what I feel like are four pretty easy keepers with five options for the last two slots.

QB
Peyton Manning
Colin Kaepernick
Andy Dalton
Michael Vick

RB
Alfred Morris
Fred Jackson
Donald Brown
Andre Brown
Pierre Thomas
Deangelo Williams

WR
Roddy White
Mike Williams
Miles Austin
Titus Young

TE
Vernon Davis
Greg Olsen

K
Rian Lindell

D
San Francisco
Seattle

I'm thinking the easy keepers:
QB Manning
QB Kaepernick
RB Morris
WR White

And here are pretty much my only other options:
WR Austin
WR Williams
TE Davis
D SF
D SEA

I'd really like to package Manning with one of Austin/Williams for an RB, but I'm getting no love from my fellow managers (I'm the only 49er fan in the league and no one is very high on Kaepernick, so no taking advantage of the Kaepernick hype). Running on the assumption that I'm not able to make a move before locking in my keepers, what to do with the last two slots? Davis is intriguing because with Crabtree out (and Boldin to keep defenses honest) he should see a huge workload. Seattle and SF are arguably the two best defenses in the league, and while Austin and Williams are nice, neither are consistent enough to be top tier. Then again, either of them are good enough that they could take that next step this year. Decisions, decisions.

[Danny]

Definitely do not keep a defense. I would keep Davis for sure. Between the other two is a toss up, though I would say Austin has more upside

[Julio Riddols]

I think Austin and Davis would be the best bet. Dallas should be throwing it a lot this year and have a far more reliable QB, So Austin is a solid WR2 IMO. I don't yet know if I trust Mike Williams fully, and his QB is one of the most inconsistent in the league. Olsen and Davis are almost a toss up to me though. Olsen is Cam's favorite target behind the aging Steve Smith.

[Danny]

I have to disagree with Julio. Davis is the far superior pick this year. WIth Crabtree out, Davis is lining up primarily at WR in camp and should be the go to guy in the offense.

[Vince, Pt. II]

One of the 49ers beat writers is reporting that although Davis is talking like he's lining up at WR a lot, he's actually only done it a couple times and is mostly lining up as his usual TE. I still think he's a better pick than Olsen, though.

[Vince, Pt. II]

So it turns out we're down to 5 keepers this year, so the decision becomes pick one of the following:

WR Miles Austin
WR Mike Williams (TB)
TE Vernon Davis

With my other keepers being:
QB Manning (DEN)
QB Kaepernick
RB Morris
WR White

[Danny]

I definitely go with Davis. I think he goes back to his production level of a couple years ago. Williams is solid but lacks upside and Austin is brittle and will play second fiddle to Dez Bryant.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by Danny

I definitely go with Davis. I think he goes back to his production level of a couple years ago. Williams is solid but lacks upside and Austin is brittle and will play second fiddle to Dez Bryant.

Yeah, I think that's gotta be the way.

[Julio Riddols]

Out of those 3, yeah Davis. Austin, if healthy, would be better. I don't put a lot of faith in S.F. being able to make much happen in the passing game with Davis as the only target though. He'll get more opportunities maybe, but I don't think they'll be better ones.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Anquan Boldin?

So I'm in trade talks with the #2 team in the league. His keeper situation (keep 5):

Brees
Foster
Charles
Calvin Johnson
Spiller
MJD

So he's basically choosing between Spiller and MJD. He initially floated Spiller, got quite a bit of interest, but then decided to keep him. Now he's trading MJD. I have the #1 overall pick and it's a non-serpentine draft (so I am the first pick in every round). What do I offer for MJD, knowing he's mine unless he's traded?

[Danny]

I wouldnt play games and probably offer your #2

[Neuqua]

10 team/.5PPR/1QB-3WR-2RB-1F start.

I can keep Trent Richardson and forfeit my 3rd Rd pick

or

Keep RG3 and forfeit my 11th Rd pick.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Neuqua

10 team/.5PPR/1QB-3WR-2RB-1F start.

I can keep Trent Richardson and forfeit my 3rd Rd pick

or

Keep RG3 and forfeit my 11th Rd pick.

I would keep Trent...what QBs are out there?

[Neuqua]

I'm not sure yet. We have another week and a half before the deadline to submit a keeper and usually everyone waits until the very last minute.

And we don't know the draft order until 30 minutes before the draft begins so it's really a crapshoot.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Neuqua

10 team/.5PPR/1QB-3WR-2RB-1F start.

I can keep Trent Richardson and forfeit my 3rd Rd pick

or

Keep RG3 and forfeit my 11th Rd pick.

Each team only keeps one player? What are passing tds and yards worth?

[Julio Riddols]

I'd keep RG3 in a heartbeat and draft a better RB with one of my early picks. Not a big fan of Trent from a fantasy standpoint yet, at least not in that offense.

[Neuqua]

We can only keep one player.

Passing TDs are 5 pts

Yardage: 25 yards per point; 3 points at 400 yards; 5 points at 500 yards

[corbes]

Kaepernick or Russell Wilson as keeper?

We keep one, at a cost of a draft pick two rounds earlier than the player was selected the previous year. Here I picked up both as FAs later in the season, so I get to keep either one for the cost of a 13th round draft pick. I am almost certain to keep Kaepernick unless I am persuaded otherwise . . . ?

[Danny]

Keep Richardson

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Danny

Keep Richardson

I know he scored 12 touchdowns last year. I know he caught 50 balls. Is his value at RB higher than Griffin's at QB? I think it is a toss up, which is why I think keeping the earlier pick is the better idea.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just want to know why you are as sold on him as you appear to be.

[Danny]

I'm medium on him, but a his value is far far higher cause of vbd

[Julio Riddols]

I see. So in theory his value as a round 3 pick at RB is greater than RGIII's value as a round 11 pick at QB?

[Danny]

Yes. Especially with the value available at QB this year and lack of value at RB. It also helps Richardsons value that there is a flex spot.

And I just looked at the numbers and I will give an even stronger nod to RIchardson who has about a +80 value where as Griffin has about 0. A 3rd round RB will only have a value of 15-25 at most

[Danny]

And saying Griffin has 0 value is not saying he is bad to have on his team. It means he provides +0 points over the 10th rated quarterback.

[Neuqua]

That's actually how I've been leaning. I tend to always be the last guy to draft a QB as it is and there's just so much depth at that position this season.

The only reason I pose the question is if RG3 really is fully healthy and does end up running the ball despite his injury history (unlikely I know), he's capable of single-handedly carrying a team to a championship. He's a huge wild card.

[cmp]

Who would you pick for a keeper in an auction keeper league? $200 budget.

Already keeping Alfred Morris for $8 and Brandon Marshall for $25.

Darren McFadden $15
Matt Forte $34

[Sublime 2]

I'm in need of some advice, 10 team league, keep 4.
.5 ppr
QB TDs 4 points
RB/WR 6 points

Newton
Luck
Sproles
Ridley
McFadden
Nicks
VJax
Britt

No restrictions on who to keep.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by cmp

Who would you pick for a keeper in an auction keeper league? $200 budget.

Already keeping Alfred Morris for $8 and Brandon Marshall for $25.

Darren McFadden $15
Matt Forte $34

I like Matt Forte a lot this year. $34 is high, but I think he has a great year.

Originally Posted by Sublime 2

I'm in need of some advice, 10 team league, keep 4.
.5 ppr
QB TDs 4 points
RB/WR 6 points

Newton
Luck
Sproles
Ridley
McFadden
Nicks
VJax
Britt

No restrictions on who to keep.

Newton, Sproles, VJax & Nicks. I could see an argument for Ridley over Nicks, but I prefer Nicks.

[Julio Riddols]

I'd probably keep Luck and Newton, maybe try and flip one for a sure fire stud in another position, or just play matchups all year. After them, I like Vincent Jackson and Darren Sproles with Nicks and Ridley following close behind. Nobody else really strikes me as keep worthy.

[illinifan999]

No ppr, 12 team league, keep 2 players.

Guys I'm considering:

Stevan Ridley at a cost of a 6th round pick
Matt Ryan at a cost of a 4th
Jacquizz Rogers at a cost of a 7th
Rashard Mendenhall at a cost of a 11th

I'm thinking Ridley for sure, and Mendenhall for the value. Am I crazy?

[QuikSand]

You'd be the better judge of whether Ryan at that value is good enough to keep - but I think he's charting out as around QB4-7 (and I think that's pretty fair, I expect him to land on at least one of my teams this year), and locking him up fairly easily seems like it might be a pretty sensible thing to do. No idea if Mendenhall is much value at that slot, but if you think Ryan is no value, I guess RM isn't a dumb play, definitely better than Rogers.

[Danny]

Go mendenhall and Ridley

[Julio Riddols]

I'm with Danny on this one.

[corbes]

Better to keep Doug Martin with a 2nd round pick or Colin Kaepernick with a 13th round pick?