The FOFC Keeper League 2012

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, so regarding players you want to keep and their years of service I am going to leave each owner responsible from checking the above list to see eligibility.

I bring this up now because I want to make sure all the new owners understand how much time they will have a guy for when choosing a team. I also think it is only fair that you can change your protected list prior to the deadline in case there is some misunderstanding.

Reminder, you may keep one each of RB, QB, and WR and only one of each. you may also keep a rookie from last year for a total of 4 players.

You can also choose to keep a tight end instead of a WR if you want. Note, however, that you are not required to play a tight end in this league (I'll try and get the rules up at some point over the weekend if no one else does sooner).

Also, there will be a time period before you announce keepers that you will be able to trade players (unless they've been kept 3 years) and/or draft picks with other owners.

[Lathum]

good catch about the TE JAG, although I will be introducing the TE as a position rule again

[Julio Riddols]

If Carman doesn't show, I promise to think of a clever team name.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

If Carman doesn't show, I promise to think of a clever team name.

haha. I'm going to give him until lunch my time then it is yours

[Lathum]

OK, nothing from Carman so I am going to give that spot to Julio.

As I mentioned earlier, we will let people pick their teams in order of joining. Sothe order is

Danny
NTN
Grover
Julio

Here is the draft order, it is a snake draft

South Side Roughnecks
Shakas Big Shooters
Sals Transgenders
FOFC Al Stars
All On Black
The Insomniacs
LAthums Brew Crew
TD Mafia
Vics Heros
Gridiron warriors
Calloud Doughboys
Houston Hippopotime

Please just post in thread which team you want and any questions you may have

[saldana]

for the record, if you pick my team, they suck!

(which teams are the new guys picking from?)

[JAG]

Dowboys, not Doughboys.

Note this is a non-PPR league, 6 points for all TDs (except return TDs), 1 point for 10 yards rushing/receiving or 25 yards passing, plus 3 bonus points for hitting 100 / 100 / 300 yards rush/rec/pass and another 3 bonus points for every 50/50/100 yards beyond that. Oh, and +6 points for TDs 50+ yards. Have to play 1 QB/1 RB/2 WR/ 1 RB or WR flex/ 1 WR or TE flex. I think that's the basics for rules in picking a team.

[Lathum]

shoot, thanks again JAG for having my back on posting the scoring

Saldana- The rosters are listed in the first post and it says either the ownsers name next to team name or available.

[JAG]

We also might want to consider moving the league to a different location this year as there have been problems with the playoff settings two years in a row with Fleaflicker. I don't have a lot of experience with other sites, but a quick look at Yahoo's offering looked decent and apparently they added some options for keeper leagues this year as well.

[Grover]

I originally wanted nothing to do with the South Side Roughnecks, but with the first pick and the swing pick it becomes much more tantalizing.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by JAG

We also might want to consider moving the league to a different location this year as there have been problems with the playoff settings two years in a row with Fleaflicker. I don't have a lot of experience with other sites, but a quick look at Yahoo's offering looked decent and apparently they added some options for keeper leagues this year as well.

I can vouch for Yahoo. They're constantly adding stuff year to year, too.

[Grover]

I am strongly considering naming my team "Somewhere Over the Dwayne Bowe"

[spleen1015]

I am playing in 3 leagues on ESPN, 3 on Yahoo!, 1 on NFL.com and this one. I know there have been issues with the playoffs, but Flea Flicker is the best one by far, IMO. They offer so much more from an analytical perspective, it is not even funny.

[Lathum]

I have to second that I like fleaflicker as well

[ntndeacon]

Grover, did you take the South Side Team? iwasn't sure, which is why I haven't picked yet.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Grover, did you take the South Side Team? iwasn't sure, which is why I haven't picked yet.

no, danny has first selection

[ntndeacon]

oops. I obviously can't read.

[Grover]

I was just thinking out loud in public spaces.

[Danny]

I'll take a look and pick this morning.

[Danny]

Is there anywhere a players years kept is listed? And I would keep one QB, RB, WR/TE and one rookie (if I want to) correct?

[Grover]

Post #37

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - The FOFC Keeper League 2012

[Danny]

Originally Posted by JAG

Here's the info from last year Lathum. I don't have time to look at everything, but based on the rules we came up with last year, the people marked by (3) years kept, if they're on the same roster as last year, are not eligible to be kept or traded prior to declaring keepers (aka, they're free agents):

Ah found it.

[Danny]

Still looking, but Foster, Johnson and Shaub in the early lead despite all playing for Houston lol.

[Lathum]

post 37 in this thread has the kept years and yes you keep one each of QB, WR, RB, and can keep a rookie if you like.

I think we are all pretty open, if you have a particular question about a team feel free to ask

[Lathum]

also, if you can put the new team name in when you select that would be good.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Danny

Still looking, but Foster, Johnson and Shaub in the early lead despite all playing for Houston lol.

just so you are aware this would be the last year you can keep Schaub and you would have 2 more years from Foster and Johnson

[Danny]

I'll take All on Black

[Lathum]

OK, Danny takes AoB so NTNDeacon picks next

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Lathum

just so you are aware this would be the last year you can keep Schaub and you would have 2 more years from Foster and Johnson

Thanks, the Foster and Johnson are the keys here. Schaub is only a mid level QB anyway. I also have a couple decent rookie options in Ingram and Moore.

[Lathum]

can all the new guys also PM me their email addresses, I likely will need them to do league invites

[Danny]

And thanks for the PM. Getting read to move to a new city in a week, start a new job and other stuff, so not as on top of things as I usually am. Once we finish the move things will settle down.

[Grover]

So in Post 37, if it says (3) next to their names this would be the final season we have them?

I was thinking it means they had already been on the team for three years and would be back in the draft pool. Good to know.

[Danny]

I believe if it says 3, they go back in the pool unless they are on a different team, in which case they would go back down to 0

[Danny]

lol, I didnt even notice I have Gronkowski too. Wow, now thats a tough choice there.

[Danny]

So if I trade someone they have to be a keeper? Or could I say trade Schaub and Johnson for a better QB and then keep that Qb, Foster and Gronkowski?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Grover

So in Post 37, if it says (3) next to their names this would be the final season we have them?

I was thinking it means they had already been on the team for three years and would be back in the draft pool. Good to know.

Originally Posted by Danny

I believe if it says 3, they go back in the pool unless they are on a different team, in which case they would go back down to 0

3 means they go back into the draft this year. The spirit of the rule is so you get 3 years of a guy on your team. Keep in mind that list is from the start of last season so the guys with a 3 can not be kept. You also need to look at the CURRENT rosters because some of those guys were traded, in which case their counter gets reset and last season would be year 1 on their current team

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Danny

So if I trade someone they have to be a keeper? Or could I say trade Schaub and Johnson for a better QB and then keep that Qb, Foster and Gronkowski?

I have to go back and check the rules on this because there was a lot of discussion about that last season.

Keep in mind you can also trade for draft pick.

[Danny]

I'm

[Danny]

I'm putting Andre Johnson on the block. Looking for a really good qb and or picks

[sterlingice]

Ok, I'm going to spend the new 30~60 mins trying to hash out all of the rosters (with keeper info included). That way everyone knows what they are looking at

SI

[Grover]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Ok, I'm going to spend the new 30~60 mins trying to hash out all of the rosters (with keeper info included). That way everyone knows what they are looking at

SI

Thanks SI...

I was a bit confused looking at the Insomniacs. I saw Hillis listed as a keeper in post 37, but not on the roster of the original post, and not in the trades post... so I was wondering where he was in all of this.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Ok, I'm going to spend the new 30~60 mins trying to hash out all of the rosters (with keeper info included). That way everyone knows what they are looking at

SI

thanks SI, all the info you need should be in the thread but I haven't had time to put it in a comprehensive manner

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by JAG

Again, Callous Dowboys will be back.

Also, because I had to dig for this info, here are the off-season trading rules we agreed to last season:


Off-Season Trade Rules
-Trades involving your current roster will be allowed as soon as the Championship game has been completed and until keepers are announced for the next season. The keeper announcement signifies the start of a new season.
-Players may be traded for players, draft picks, or players and picks.
-Any player received in a trade automatically becomes a keeper at their position for their new team.
-When becoming one of the teams keepers, the player will have one year of service counted against the limit.
-If a player is "unkeepable" (meaning he has already been kept 3 times by the same team), he is not allowed to be traded in the offseason.

Danny- Here are the trade rules. So in theory you could trade 2 players for one, however, those 2 players become automatic keepers

[Lathum]

ok, invite sent to Danny for AoB and MollyMurphy for Shakas big shooters

[sterlingice]

Post 36 is giving me fits- give me a few more minutes.

SI

[sterlingice]

I was thinking we were going off a 3 year keeper schedule but it's more like a 4 year keeper schedule (draft, keep1, keep2, keep3 before gone)

SI

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I was thinking we were going off a 3 year keeper schedule but it's more like a 4 year keeper schedule (draft, keep1, keep2, keep3 before gone)

SI

wouldn't draft and year 1 count as one. This came up last year and the basic premise was that you can get 3 seasons of play out of a guy

[sterlingice]

yeah, that was what I thought. This is what's driving me batty looking at the lists from last year. They list people as 3, 2 and nothing.

SI

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

yeah, that was what I thought. This is what's driving me batty looking at the lists from last year. They list people as 3, 2 and nothing.

SI

I think nothing would technically be year one, or the first year a particular player was on that roster.

So for example, I drafted Tony Romo last year. Obviously since I drafted him he was on my roster, so that would count as the first year, so I can play him 2 more seasons then lose him, or trade him during season 3.

[sterlingice]

These are the 4 examples I'm looking at, which I think I've just been staring at too long:

These are the two I think I have straight in my head but then if these are correct then where am I wrong on the next two:
* Brandon Marshall - I'm going to keep him this year because Fitz is a 3 and I'm going to lose him. I had him this past season (2011) and then will get him in 2012 and 2013.
* Peyton Manning (3). Peyton has been on Sal's team for 3 years and now he's done, right? Or was it 4?

But then help me with these two:
* Ray Rice (listed with no number last year) - Callous kept him last year so that means he's had him for 2010 and first kept him in 2011. But he didn't even have a number so if he's 1 then does that mean he's now 2 and kept for next season (2012)?
* Matt Schaub (2) - But then if that's a 1, then that means Matt Schaub has been kept for 2 seasons. But if he's been kept twice, then he should be into pool now: drafted season (2009), first kept season (2010), second kept season (2011). That's 3 seasons he's been there and should now be back in the pool if it's a 3 year clock. But that can't be right, can it?

I think I really need to just go through the year by year rosters to see where I'm wrong but that's going to take some digging.

SI