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Old 12-19-2005, 12:10 AM   #51
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Hey, how do they get the opening weekend numbers at 8pm on Sunday?

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Old 12-19-2005, 12:10 AM   #52
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I think it's really funny that people get emotional over box office grosses.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:40 AM   #53
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I think it's really funny that people get emotional over box office grosses.

I do for certain movies. For example, Serenity. One of the best, most fun movies I've seen, and I loved the Firefly series. I want to see the box office numbers high so that they make a sequel, or bring back the show.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:51 AM   #54
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Saw this Tursday night... great movie. Ebert's review was spot on, and it's easily the best movie of 2005. I can't say enough about this movie the acting was great (even Jack Black was amazing) and Jackson definitly deserves at least a nomination for his directing... I even think he should win but probably won't since he won last year for RoTK.

Top notch all the way!!!
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:54 AM   #55
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Hey, how do they get the opening weekend numbers at 8pm on Sunday?


They are estimates. Officials come out a little later, but they generally close.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:22 AM   #56
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:01 AM   #57
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So it's at $66 million through Sunday. Anyone still think it might make $100 million?
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:24 AM   #58
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It needs to be longer.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:24 AM   #59
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:17 AM   #60
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FWIW, box office numbers are a little misleading. I seem to remember an article which said that the guys who made Spider-Man actually lost money at the box office, when it made $403 million. That movie cost $139 million to make and $50 million to market. I want to say that less than half of the box office went to the studio, so they actually lost money.

Then again, it earned another $418 million overseas, $60 million for TV rights, $109 million in toy sales, and about $338 million in DVD sales.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:21 AM   #61
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Is no one else disturbed that as we move into 2006 we are still making Giant ape movies?

To clarify, it's a fairly established idea that the Giant ape is generally meant to represent "savage" Black male sexuality. I realize that the newer versions of thesemovies aren't as bad as earlier outings. But I personally have no intention of seeing it.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:23 AM   #62
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Is no one else disturbed that as we move into 2006 we are still making Giant ape movies?

To clarify, it's a fairly established idea that the Giant ape is generally meant to represent "savage" Black male sexuality. I realize that the newer versions of thesemovies aren't as bad as earlier outings. But I personally have no intention of seeing it.
I'll bite...so what do minature apes represent?
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:25 AM   #63
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I'll bite...so what do minature apes represent?

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Old 12-19-2005, 01:06 PM   #64
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Saw the movie on Friday...thoroughly 100% enjoyed it...excellent film....

in fact...I might go see it again...the footage on the island was spectacular.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:48 PM   #65
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This is probably my most anticipated movie of the year besides War of the Worlds.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:13 PM   #66
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This is probably my most anticipated movie of the year besides War of the Worlds.

Which I still haven't seen.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:14 PM   #67
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Which I still haven't seen.

It was, meh.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:28 PM   #68
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:58 PM   #69
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I thought it was quite good.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:02 PM   #70
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meh to blech at best for me.

War of the Worlds that is. Haven't seen Kong yet.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:05 PM   #71
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To clarify, it's a fairly established idea that the Giant ape is generally meant to represent "savage" Black male sexuality.
But, his little weewee is so small.

I mean think about it; in all those giant ape movies with full frontal nudity have you ever seen his penis?

Sometime when I am alone at night, I wonder if King Kong may actually be a Giant Female Lesbian Ape, and that scares me.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:31 PM   #72
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watched it yesterday, place was almost full too; pretty surprising for the 1st movie of the morning on a monday.

I thought it was good, but not great. Some amazing action scenes and some good acting - mainly from naomi watts and adrien brody. But its almost too long, the first 45 minutes is really uninteresting and character relationships like 'Jimmy' & 'Mr. Hayes!' are completely useless.

A lot of filler, but a good deal of meat as well - i give it a B+ for almost making me cry over a CGI Ape.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:37 PM   #73
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Is no one else disturbed that as we move into 2006 we are still making Giant ape movies?

To clarify, it's a fairly established idea that the Giant ape is generally meant to represent "savage" Black male sexuality. I realize that the newer versions of thesemovies aren't as bad as earlier outings. But I personally have no intention of seeing it.

I am disturbed at your insight into this movie.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:38 PM   #74
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Cheaper by the Dozen 2 just might. Don't under-estimate a corny family flick opening Christmas weekend.

Well, it wasn't CBD2 (which came in fourth) that might take the Christmas weekend crown, but instead a resurgent LW&TW. King Kong is in a virtual tie over this weekend, but it will be tommorow before the final numbers come out. It will be interesting to see what Christmas day numbers are going to look like.


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Old 12-26-2005, 12:57 PM   #75
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I thought it was good, but not great.

That is my take on it. We saw it Saturday, and Loren and I were a little ticked off that it was on the smallest screen in the theater. I don't understand why they would do that with this type of movie. One of the bigger (normal) screens would have made it a touch better maybe but it wasn't a movie killer I guess.

Anyways, some of it was great when it comes to the special effects. Some of it I didn't really like too much. Like the dinosuar 'stampede' were they are running inbetween the legs of them. Just didn't come off good for me.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:01 PM   #76
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I took our 8 y/o to see this on Thursday...let me preface this by saying that he saw Batman Begins in the theater and had no problem with it, and on the whole does not get scared by much at all. But he was terrified in this movie...we never even saw King Kong...the scene(s) where they first get to the island and see the natives, and the one guy gets killed just freaked him out. I am not sure why b/c he has seen much worse than this - he watches CSI with us alot and is fine with the dead bodies, blood, etc...we ended up leaving as the native guy was getting on to the boat and (presumably) about to kidnap Ann Darrow. The customer service lady at the theater was super nice - gave me the money for the tickets back AND gave us two free passes - which radii used Friday to take Anthony to see Narnia (which they both really liked). I guess the sight of a crying child clinging to it's mother really pulls at peoples heart strings
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:58 PM   #77
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Antmeister and I wanted to see Wolf Creek but was sold out, so we decided to watch King Kong. The $20.00 admission for a 3 hour long movie wasn't worth it to me. Some scenes were WAAAAAAY too long for my taste.

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Old 12-27-2005, 08:07 AM   #78
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After yesterday, estimated domestic is $118 million, estimated overseas is $153 million. I think good word of mouth will push it over $200 million.
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Old 12-27-2005, 08:51 AM   #79
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Just got back from a 10:30 showing. Overall, I was disappointed. The movie itself as a whole was okay, but there were just too many pieces of it that bothered me. Without going too much into the plot, it seemed like a mix between Raiders of the Lost Ark, Titanic, Jurassic Park, and Harry and the Hendersons. And it was definitely too long. I don't have a problem with 3 hour movies...I have a problem with movies that are unnecessarily 3 hours. And there was no reason for this movie to be over 2:15.


Exactly my thoughts. Good movie. Good acting. Good special effects.

But just so many scenes that weren't relevant or interesting.

I don't care how good a film is, when you catch yourself saying "Please, just move on already" over five times in a movie, something is wrong. There was NO purpose for this movie to be so long outside of an egotistical director who wanted to watch his work.

At 2 hours, this is the movie of the year. At 3, it's one I'll likely never watch again.
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Old 12-27-2005, 09:59 AM   #80
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Ok, last minute decision had us seeing Narnia last night. I enjoyed it much better the King Kong. Of course I currently have King Kong slightly ahead of The Ringer only because of the effects.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:35 PM   #81
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The numbers are in for Tuesday's box-office take, and one thing is clear: Peter Jackson's "King Kong" has been clobbered.

The winner, now by a large margin, is Disney/Walden's "Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe."

"Kong" finished a solid second on Tuesday with $7,919,225. But "Narnia" ruled, with $9,224,127.

The two movies have been locked in a dead heat for the last two weeks, but it now seems that "Narnia" has completely wedged "Kong" out of first place.

This can only be frustrating news for the folks at Universal. "Kong" cost $300 million, including marketing and promotion. At this rate, it will take a long time to recoup its expenses and see a profit.

"Kong" follows a trend, though. The public is often lukewarm to this kind of film. A few years ago, a remake of "Godzilla" by Roland Emmerich was also a box-office disappointment.

"Kong" may also be too violent for most schoolkids. "Narnia"'s success, as well as the continued steady presence of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," indicates that the box office is under the command of those kids on vacation. "Harry Potter" — along with "Cheaper by the Dozen 2," "Yours, Mine and Ours," and "Chicken Little" — had the smallest fall-off from day to day, while other "adult" attractions are on a box-office roller coaster ride.

As for those "adult" titles: No numbers were ready yet Wednesday evening for "Brokeback Mountain." Steven Spielberg's "Munich" held its own for a third day, as did the Johnny Cash biopic, "Walk the Line."


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Old 12-29-2005, 12:34 AM   #82
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after Titanic i decided I won't pay to see a 3 hour movie when i know how it will end. King Kong dies. 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours or more - doesn't matter how much filler you have there is no way around it.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:42 AM   #83
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New King Kong is to American Godzilla as Micheal Jordan is to Harold Minor

The public may not have been ready to go in HUGE numbers to see a large monster movie like King Kong, but it is still a top of the line action movie (although uneven at times) that is being applauded by most critics and viewers.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:10 AM   #84
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Im not sure, but I think that this movie will fall thru cracks on the tail end of the BLOCKBUSTER movement. LOTR, Spiderman, the 3 Star Wars movies, all the huge movies that have come out in the past 5 years pale, by a wide margin in comparison to King Kong imo. I think alot of people are staying away based on not finding the "idea" of the movie as appealing as the others i've mentioned.

This is King Kong yes, but Jackson really takes the story we all know and makes it new, without really adding much, which to me, is amazing.

I think alot of people will look more fondly on this film 2 or 3 years down the line than they are right now.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:09 PM   #85
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I saw it the other day and really enjoyed it. Was it too long? Yes. But I never felt bored and really enjoyed a lot of the scenes.

I have to say though, I thought some of the special effects actually looked weak. Kong himself was amazing, but several of the dinos, and all of the shots of the bi-planes, looked crummy to me.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:34 PM   #86
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I liked it, but in what seems to be a trend for Jackson, it's just too long. I wasn't bothered as much by the opening scenes to setup the characters as I was by what I felt was gratuitous use of CGI on Skull Island. Yes, you have amazing computer guys that can make really good looking monsters. The giant bug scene in the ravine/canyon, however, made me feel like I was watching Starship Troopers circa 1930. I'm not sure why that scene was even necessary other than to kill a few more people and demonize large crickets. I give him credit, though. Unlike ROTK, the ending was fantastic.
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:13 PM   #87
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made me feel like I was watching Starship Troopers circa 1930.

I think this is a perfect analogy and one that I had been searching for ever since the preview was posted here last summer and everyone was drooling over it. It just looked so wrong and I think it was the futuristic, sci-fi look made to pretend it was the 30s. I think there were better ways of doing this without turning Kong into another Jurassic Park or even SW.
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Old 01-03-2006, 06:38 PM   #88
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Finally saw this today.

What a bloated, self-indulgent mess. It's a monster movie done at the pace of LOTR. I wish Jackson had made this before he got insanely successful; that way, maybe there might've still been someone willing to tell him he needed to cut about 40% of it.
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I liked it, but in what seems to be a trend for Jackson, it's just too long. I wasn't bothered as much by the opening scenes to setup the characters as I was by what I felt was gratuitous use of CGI on Skull Island. Yes, you have amazing computer guys that can make really good looking monsters. The giant bug scene in the ravine/canyon, however, made me feel like I was watching Starship Troopers circa 1930. I'm not sure why that scene was even necessary other than to kill a few more people and demonize large crickets. I give him credit, though. Unlike ROTK, the ending was fantastic.
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I saw this a couple of nights ago and agree a lot with what was said here. I liked the intro hour-ish of time before they get to the island. Tho, gratuitous use of CGI really has to be bad to bug me- basically in something devoid of plot- this was not that.

Two things stick out in my mind:
1) At the bug scene, I started clock watching- it was starting to get unnecessary and only two plot points happened there, both of which could have occurred a few minutes earlier in the log scene: Adrian Brodie tracking off on his own (could have gotten trapped on the other side of the log from them), and the captain coming back (also could have happened in the King Kong log battle). I did a little clock watching on the T-Rex battle. After they fell into the vines, that just went on for too long.
2) The whole Jimmy/Hayes thing looked like it was building to something and then didn't at all.

That said, after I was done, I had some movie "warm fuzzies" about how this should be what going to the movie feels like even with these couple of complaints. I really agree with the comments of "this is how going to the movies should feel". I really enjoyed the movie and would watch it again, all 3 hours, if I have friends who haven't seen it yet or want to go again. I'm curious how it will hold up to second viewing.

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You're high. The film might make 100 million domestically, but since it cost nearly TWICE that to make, it'll be considered a flop.

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Old 01-19-2006, 10:15 PM   #91
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Maybe so, but for that movie to have only made $5 million domestically after all these weeks that it's been out, it definitely didn't live up to the expectations that were placed on it prior to release. I am not saying it's a failure, but I would guess that the studio's were willing to spend $200 mil to make it b/c they thought they would profit a little more than $5 mil.
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Old 01-19-2006, 10:32 PM   #92
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Maybe so, but for that movie to have only made $5 million domestically after all these weeks that it's been out, it definitely didn't live up to the expectations that were placed on it prior to release. I am not saying it's a failure, but I would guess that the studio's were willing to spend $200 mil to make it b/c they thought they would profit a little more than $5 mil.

I guess you can say the movie just made $5 million dollars domestically, but money is money, no matter where it's earned. And I'll bet the world-wide sales and eventual DVD sales will be enough to pay PJ's heat bill.

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I'm simply responding to the fact that someone said I was high for thinking it would make $200 million.

But yeah, DVD/Cable/Foreign sales will turn King Kong into a pretty big profit.
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I guess you can say the movie just made $5 million dollars domestically, but money is money, no matter where it's earned. And I'll bet the world-wide sales and eventual DVD sales will be enough to pay PJ's heat bill.

It's made $500 million worldwide so far.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:20 AM   #95
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Finally saw this on DVD this weekend. It was laughably bad. Peter Jackson gets a helluva lot of leeway with me because of the LOTR trilogy, but we couldn't even finish watching King Kong. Ugh.
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:21 AM   #96
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I thought it was entertaining, but I was kind of shocked that anyone would take their kid to see it. It was way too intense for kids (but of course, it was marketed to them).
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:31 AM   #97
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Oh, and who decided to cast Adrien Brody as a romantic lead? He looks like a scarecrow with a big schnoz.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:03 AM   #98
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Chris, you and I are too old to be cool enough to like this.
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:36 AM   #99
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