NFL Week 14 Thread

[Suburban Rhythm]

Re: the Harrison suspension

Report: James Harrison could face suspension - CBSSports.com

Here are Casserly's full remarks on the Harrison situation from Sunday's The NFL Today.

"Let's take a look at the facts: last year he was fined four times with the largest fine being $75,000 which was reduced to $50,000," Casserly told James Brown. "This hit [against McCoy Thursday] is worse than the $75,000 (hit).

"The second thing is, the league office told [Harrison]: next infraction, escalating discipline, including a possible suspension. Head coach Mike Tomlin went to the league office this year to do what I call 'a review of the rules.' From the league's point of view, there's no excuse for any Steeler not knowing the rules.

"In my opinion," Casserly continued, "I would not be surprised at all if the league suspended him for one game, the cost being $73,500 for one game check. And, in my opinion, if I was doing this, I would absolutely suspend him. Either he doesn't know the rules, or doesn't understand the rules. A stronger message than a fine has to be sent in this situation."

The bolded part of the statement made me laugh. Officials get piled on plenty, but I think most people can agree there are times it seems like they do not know the rules, or don't understand them, either. Difference being they have the benefit of review/conferring with the other officials and changing a call.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Mon Vikes, dont win now! Manning might come back to save his job this season, the #1 pick still might be yours so dont start winning. AP's "injury" should keep him out the remainder of the season

I'd settle for RGIII if we can't get Luck.

[Grover]

Mike Nugent is automatic.

Rob Gronkowski has set the NFL single season TD record for a TE. Kid is a monster. He had an incredible play before the TD, diving for a catch at the 50, not getting touched, breaking three tackles on his way to the 10.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Re: the Harrison suspension

Report: James Harrison could face suspension - CBSSports.com



The bolded part of the statement made me laugh. Officials get piled on plenty, but I think most people can agree there are times it seems like they do not know the rules, or don't understand them, either. Difference being they have the benefit of review/conferring with the other officials and changing a call.

In contrast, we have fans and commentators who see more reviews than the officials do, confer with other fans and commentators, and a year later, they still don't understand the rules they're squawking about.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Mon Vikes, dont win now! Manning might come back to save his job this season, the #1 pick still might be yours so dont start winning. AP's "injury" should keep him out the remainder of the season

You are looking for at least two wins from the list of Balt, Tenn., Houston, and Jacksonville, who they already lost to at home.

Originally Posted by mckerney

I'd settle for RGIII if we can't get Luck.

+1

[larrymcg421]

Taylor has two sacks on Vick today already, both on 3rd down.

I really wish we hired a better coach in the offseason. There's no way this team should be 4-8.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Re: the Harrison suspension

Report: James Harrison could face suspension - CBSSports.com



The bolded part of the statement made me laugh. Officials get piled on plenty, but I think most people can agree there are times it seems like they do not know the rules, or don't understand them, either. Difference being they have the benefit of review/conferring with the other officials and changing a call.

While I understand what you are saying here, exactly how hard is "don't lead with your damned head into another guys head, EVER. If it happens by accident to an RB or QB outside the pocket, it's ok, but it is NEVER allowed to target another players head."

I really don't understand it and I don't understand people trying to defend it either. I don't care who the ball carrier is, when you take a running start and line up a guy to pop him in the head, you are a first class A-Hole who has no business in this league.

[Matthean]

Even if you factor in the two TOs by Ponder, the rest of the team is pretty much no showing. If Detroit knows one thing, it's how to maul the bad teams.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Detroit is the best team in the NFL. They beat Tim Tebow.

TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOW
I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TEBOW TIME WOOOOOOOOOW

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Even if you factor in the two TOs by Ponder, the rest of the team is pretty much no showing. If Detroit knows one thing, it's how to maul the bad teams.

I wouldn't say just bad teams. I think they are terrific front runners. They don't jump on somebody early that often, but when they do, a lot of their shortcomings on defense get hidden. They can pin their ears back and just play pure attack football. Combine that with play action working really well with a lead even if you don't have a running game and I think the Lions will be a team you do not want to fall behind early in the future.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I wouldn't say just bad teams. I think they are terrific front runners. They don't jump on somebody early that often, but when they do, a lot of their shortcomings on defense get hidden. They can pin their ears back and just play pure attack football. Combine that with play action working really well with a lead even if you don't have a running game and I think the Lions will be a team you do not want to fall behind early in the future.

Yep. They struggle against the run, so if they get the lead they don't have to face it as much. If they get behind and the team doesn't pound the ball on them, they get a chance to come back.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Detroit is the best team in the NFL. They beat Tim Tebow.

TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOW
I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TEBOW TIME WOOOOOOOOOW

SNL totally needs to bring back the Superfans and have them gushing over Tebow.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by TroyF

While I understand what you are saying here, exactly how hard is "don't lead with your damned head into another guys head, EVER. If it happens by accident to an RB or QB outside the pocket, it's ok, but it is NEVER allowed to target another players head."

I really don't understand it and I don't understand people trying to defend it either. I don't care who the ball carrier is, when you take a running start and line up a guy to pop him in the head, you are a first class A-Hole who has no business in this league.

Bolded is the problem. Make it THE rule, period, for all players. And call it. Every single team. Then I've got no problem fining, suspending, or kicking him out of the league, or sacrificing him at the 50 for a halftime show.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

SNL totally needs to bring back the Superfans and have them gushing over Tebow.

1 Mini-Tebow vs. the all time great Packer team? I'd have to say Tebow's 42 Packers 3.

You give them 3? Seriously? 140-0, Mini-Tebow with 10 TD's passing and 10 TD rushing to go with 45 QB sacks.

[TroyF]

Redskins with some trickery to take the lead on the Pats. Brandon Banks 49 yards to Moss. Skins up 3.

[TroyF]

The Rex Grossman led Redskins have piled up 210 yards against the Patriots in a quarter and a play.

[Chubby]

Lions D need to continue to carry my ass this week in fantasy football, 2 defensive tds so far!

[mckerney]

Dat Ponder arm strength. Can't hit an out route, throws another pick 6.

[Grover]

The Gingerhead Man finds Jerome Simpson for a 17 yard TD. 13-3 Bengals with 3:02 left in the half.

[mauchow]

What will the vikings do with the #2 pick? Will they have the balls to pick a QB at that spot?

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Dat Ponder arm strength. Can't hit an out route, throws another pick 6.

I'm surprised in this day and age there isn't a known range of how fast a ball needs to be thrown for QB to have the proper arm strength to be a NFL QB.

[Radii]

Carolina is looking outstanding vs another divisional opponent today. Its looking more and more like 9-7 will be good enough for at least one wild card in the NFC.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

What will the vikings do with the #2 pick? Will they have the balls to pick a QB at that spot?

I tend to think you follow the golden rule if there is a franchise type of QB there, you take him. They did a bad move in drafting Ponder in the first place since he never had the look of a franchise guy. If the franchise guy isn't there, build elsewhere, which is what the Vikes should have done last year.

[TroyF]

I don't know about that roughing the passer call in the NE game. Redskins caught a huge break there.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

What will the vikings do with the #2 pick? Will they have the balls to pick a QB at that spot?

God I hope so. Building around Ponder could set the team back a decade. If they can build up elsewhere they're going to be right back where they were a few years ago with a good team everywhere but QB and not able to find a long term solution.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I tend to think you follow the golden rule if there is a franchise type of QB there, you take him. They did a bad move in drafting Ponder in the first place since he never had the look of a franchise guy. If the franchise guy isn't there, build elsewhere, which is what the Vikes should have done last year.

Agreed, if you don't have a franchise QB and get a chance to draft one you do it, no matter how badly you screwed up your first rounder the year before.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Sorry, he was in the acts of throwing and Harrison took two full steps and hit him in his face mask. It was deplorable.

I'm tired of Harrison. Commissioner needs to suspend him indefinitely and get him out of the league before he kills somebody. Guy is a dirty dirty player.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I don't know about that roughing the passer call in the NE game. Redskins caught a huge break there.

Agreed. Very weak call. He hit him in the thigh and his arms naturally went down to wrap.

[kingfc22]

ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE CALL in Washington.

[Big Fo]

Wow, what a joke call for the Pats there. You can't even breathe on Brady now.

[DaddyTorgo]

As a Pats fan...that's a BS call on Fletcher there. Shouldn't be a personal foul at all IMO.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Wow, what a joke call for the Pats there. You can't even breathe on Brady now.

Oh stop. Pats just got flagged for a BS PI call on Grossman a few minutes ago...maybe the refs were subconsciously trying to equalize, or maybe they're just being super-sensitive this week.

[cuervo72]

I have to say I much prefer hearing MORN-ing-weg over morn-HEN-weg.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Obvious awful call against London Fletcher there. I wonder if that was somehow a make-up call for the call against Andre Carter. The Carter call was bad, but the Fletcher call... I don't even have a word to describe how bad that was.

[Matthean]

It will be interesting to see who gets the #2 pick in the draft though. If the Rams get it, I can see people trading with them to try and get RGIII. You kind of have to wonder how much Jacksonville is in love with Gabbert as well. Another case of a team grabbing a non-franchise QB when they didn't need to.

[miami_fan]

Kansas City has 21 plays for 4 total yards in the first half. Wow

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Kansas City has 21 plays for 4 total yards in the first half. Wow

Ouch.

[k0ruptr]

Carolina looking like a solid team these days....

[kingfc22]

Indy is really, really bad. I don't see how this team competes even if Manning comes back next year.

[k0ruptr]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Indy is really, really bad. I don't see how this team competes even if Manning comes back next year.

I agree..Manning is awesome but there is no way they make the playoffs unless thre is quite a bit of change

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

What will the vikings do with the #2 pick? Will they have the balls to pick a QB at that spot?

they fucking better. RG3 and the USC guy (cant remember his name) should be much better than Ponder "why they picked him?"

[Dutch]

Bucs let a 14-0 lead disintegrate and are now down 28-14. Unless a miracle happens, I'm not sure the Bucs have another win in them. I'm not sure if a 4-2 team has ever finished 4-12 before, but I know we can do this.

[jeff061]

Gronk is just a freak.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Indy is really, really bad. I don't see how this team competes even if Manning comes back next year.

One of the pregame shows was saying they expected Wayne and Mathis to leave via FA. With hints of Saturday retiring, the Colts are likely in rebuilding mode. This season obviously would have been better with Manning and I don't think anyone would be talking about Wayne and Mathis leaving if Manning was playing and they weren't 0-12.

It is going to be an interesting off season.

If the Colts traded Manning on released him, who could use him? Who has a team good enough to make a Super Bowl push and doesn't have a good QB already?

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Oh stop. Pats just got flagged for a BS PI call on Grossman a few minutes ago...maybe the refs were subconsciously trying to equalize, or maybe they're just being super-sensitive this week.

And yeah, refs have been blowing calls on both sides. It's part of the game guys, quit making excuses.

[mckerney]

First play off the second half and Lions DB drops what would have been a pick 6.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

One of the pregame shows was saying they expected Wayne and Mathis to leave via FA. With hints of Saturday retiring, the Colts are likely in rebuilding mode. This season obviously would have been better with Manning and I don't think anyone would be talking about Wayne and Mathis leaving if Manning was playing and they weren't 0-12.

It is going to be an interesting off season.

If the Colts traded Manning on released him, who could use him? Who has a team good enough to make a Super Bowl push and doesn't have a good QB already?

Chicago.

[mckerney]

And Ponders third pick comes three plays later.

[kingfc22]

Not sure how that is not a TD for NO. These NFL rules.....

[k0ruptr]

Ouch on the end of that play for damian williams