FOFC NFL Mock Draft - Page 2

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:07 PM

Aye, Wilfork. You guys have Cleveland taking a WR? No way that happens.

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:07 PM

Actually Winslow is a terrible fit. Alge Crumpler people.

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:08 PM

bumpdate

1. San Diego Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi
2. Oakland Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
3. Arizona Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
4. New York Giants Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville
10. Houston
11. Pittsburgh
12. New York Jets
13. Buffalo
14. Chicago
15. Tampa Bay
16. San Francisco
17. Cincinnati
18. New Orleans
19. Minnesota
20. Miami
21. New England (from Baltimore)
22. Dallas
23. Seattle
24. Denver
25. Green Bay
26. St. Louis
27. Tennessee
28. Philadelphia
29. Indianapolis
30. Kansas City
31. Carolina
32. New England

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

Aye, Wilfork. You guys have Cleveland taking a WR? No way that happens.

yeah. that was a pretty bad pick in retrospect.

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:09 PM

9. Kenechi Udeze

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

yeah. that was a pretty bad pick in retrospect.

justify it by saying we are picking for slot. Mike Williams makes sense there, but nobody (except maybe Wilfork) does for Cleveland. Someone (who, we don't know) trades up to 7 for Williams.

General Mike · 03-22-2004, 03:12 PM

9. roy williams

rkmsuf · 03-22-2004, 03:13 PM

With Garcia a big possesion guy makes sense...Williams could fit the bill out of the gate...

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

justify it by saying we are picking for slot. Mike Williams makes sense there, but nobody (except maybe Wilfork) does for Cleveland. Someone (who, we don't know) trades up to 7 for Williams.

and anything can happen here at 9. This is where things start to get interesting.

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:14 PM

really, I think this is one of the least volatile picks in the first round. J'ville will stay still and take

Roy Williams

They frankly have too much $ invested into DE's to spend a high pick on them.

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

With Garcia a big possesion guy makes sense...Williams could fit the bill out of the gate...

But if they don't do something about the OL, Garcia could be done by October.

rkmsuf · 03-22-2004, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

But if they don't do something about the OL, Garcia could be done by October.

Either way OL is not addressed with this pick...

Bearcat729 · 03-22-2004, 03:18 PM

There is no reason for Cleveland to draft WR at #7 when there are other major problems on the team. It looks like this draft is basically just ranking players.

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat729

There is no reason for Cleveland to draft WR at #7 when there are other major problems on the team. It looks like this draft is basically just ranking players.

No, we're simulating the bad management in Cleveland.

Now someone toss in some J-ville suggestions so we can move on.

rkmsuf · 03-22-2004, 03:20 PM

9 Udeze

albionmoonlight · 03-22-2004, 03:21 PM

I think that they will be making a mistake with him, but I agree with . . .

1. San Diego Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi
2. Oakland Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
3. Arizona Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
4. New York Giants Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston
11. Pittsburgh
12. New York Jets
13. Buffalo
14. Chicago
15. Tampa Bay
16. San Francisco
17. Cincinnati
18. New Orleans
19. Minnesota
20. Miami
21. New England (from Baltimore)
22. Dallas
23. Seattle
24. Denver
25. Green Bay
26. St. Louis
27. Tennessee
28. Philadelphia
29. Indianapolis
30. Kansas City
31. Carolina
32. New England

rkmsuf · 03-22-2004, 03:23 PM

10 Smith DE

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:26 PM

10 Udeze. this pick makes sense

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:27 PM

10. DeAngelo Hall (CB).

I think if Wilfork isn't there, they will trade down.

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

10 Udeze. this pick makes sense

Udeze certainly makes a bit more sense than Smith... but i think it's risky going DE so high with a 3-4 defense. It's easier to move out a quick DT than it is to make a 4-3 DE play end in the NFL (IMHO).

rkmsuf · 03-22-2004, 03:29 PM

I actually forgot Udeze was still on the board...

General Mike · 03-22-2004, 03:30 PM

10. Udeze

cthomer5000 · 03-22-2004, 03:34 PM

11. Philip Rivers

Samdari · 03-22-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Udeze certainly makes a bit more sense than Smith... but i think it's risky going DE so high with a 3-4 defense. It's easier to move out a quick DT than it is to make a 4-3 DE play end in the NFL (IMHO).

Udeze went to USC as a DT. He is actually more of a quick DT than an NFL 4-3 end.

General Mike · 03-22-2004, 03:46 PM

11. Rivers

mckerney · 03-22-2004, 11:58 PM

Being it looks like we're still on pick 10, I'll say:

10. Chris Gamble

Ryche · 03-23-2004, 12:44 AM

Just to be contrary

10. DeAngelo Hall

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 11:47 AM

still stuck on pick 10. A 3rd vote for Udeze or Hall would make him the pick. Here's where it stands:

DE Udeze 2
CB Hall 2
DE Smith 1
CB Gamble 1

And there is already 2 votes for Philip Rivers on the next pick.

rkmsuf · 03-23-2004, 11:48 AM

10 Udeze

vex · 03-23-2004, 11:50 AM

11. Rivers

Sharpieman · 03-23-2004, 11:52 AM

11. Rivers

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 11:52 AM

1. San Diego Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi
2. Oakland Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
3. Arizona Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
4. New York Giants Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State
12. New York Jets
13. Buffalo
14. Chicago
15. Tampa Bay
16. San Francisco
17. Cincinnati
18. New Orleans
19. Minnesota
20. Miami
21. New England (from Baltimore)
22. Dallas
23. Seattle
24. Denver
25. Green Bay
26. St. Louis
27. Tennessee
28. Philadelphia
29. Indianapolis
30. Kansas City
31. Carolina
32. New England

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12. DeAngelo Hall (CB)

vex · 03-23-2004, 11:53 AM

That makes four votes for Rivers at 11.

General Mike · 03-23-2004, 11:53 AM

12. DeAngelo Hall

Sharpieman · 03-23-2004, 11:55 AM

12. Chris Gamble

vex · 03-23-2004, 11:56 AM

12. Chris Gamble

vex · 03-23-2004, 11:57 AM

Hall - 2
Gamble -2

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 11:59 AM

And they will definitely go CB right here. My guess is one of these two will already be gone though.

Sharpieman · 03-23-2004, 12:08 PM

I actually thought they were going to go DE here, but Udeze got taken

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpieman

I actually thought they were going to go DE here, but Udeze got taken

If they go DE, I'm heading to their headquarters with a automatic weapon.

vex · 03-23-2004, 12:46 PM

After doing some reading, I'm changing my pick from Gamble to Hall, which gives him 3 votes.

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 12:47 PM

DeAngelo Hall it is.

#13 - TE Kellen Winslow

albionmoonlight · 03-23-2004, 12:50 PM

I think that Gamble is the overrated "top" prospect here. I also think that the Jets will pick him anyway.

1. San Diego Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi
2. Oakland Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
3. Arizona Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio
4. New York Giants Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami
7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC
8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami
9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC
11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State
12. New York Jets Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State
13. Buffalo
14. Chicago
15. Tampa Bay
16. San Francisco
17. Cincinnati
18. New Orleans
19. Minnesota
20. Miami
21. New England (from Baltimore)
22. Dallas
23. Seattle
24. Denver
25. Green Bay
26. St. Louis
27. Tennessee
28. Philadelphia
29. Indianapolis
30. Kansas City
31. Carolina
32. New England

Ryche · 03-23-2004, 12:51 PM

13. - DE Will Smith

vex · 03-23-2004, 12:55 PM

13. Kellen Winslow

Sharpieman · 03-23-2004, 12:56 PM

13. Will Smith

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 12:59 PM

albion, Hall was already the pick at #12. Me, General Mike, and Vexroid where the 3 votes there.

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I think that Gamble is the overrated "top" prospect here. I also think that the Jets will pick him anyway.

I'm also very leery of Gamble, he's way too much of a ....risk (ha! you thought I would say "gamble"). He's only played just defense 1 year, and seems pretty stiff for a CB. That being said, he sounds like the perfect bone-headed move for the Jets.

This front office is horrible.

cthomer5000 · 03-23-2004, 01:01 PM

right now:
Winslow 2
Smith 2

Sharpieman · 03-23-2004, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samdari

Aye, Wilfork. You guys have Cleveland taking a WR? No way that happens.

I agree, the Browns already have Andre Davis and Dennis Northcutt. They don't need another WR as much as they need another offensive lineman or they would take Winslow to help Garcia.

03-22-2004, 03:08 PM	#53
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03-22-2004, 03:13 PM	#58
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	With Garcia a big possesion guy makes sense...Williams could fit the bill out of the gate... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-22-2004, 03:14 PM	#60
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	really, I think this is one of the least volatile picks in the first round. J'ville will stay still and take Roy Williams They frankly have too much $ invested into DE's to spend a high pick on them. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

03-22-2004, 03:18 PM	#63
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	There is no reason for Cleveland to draft WR at #7 when there are other major problems on the team. It looks like this draft is basically just ranking players. __________________ Bearcat729 on XBox Live and PSN

03-22-2004, 03:20 PM	#65
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	9 Udeze __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-22-2004, 03:12 PM	#57
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	9. roy williams

03-22-2004, 03:23 PM	#67
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	10 Smith DE __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-22-2004, 03:26 PM	#68
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	10 Udeze. this pick makes sense __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

03-22-2004, 03:29 PM	#71
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I actually forgot Udeze was still on the board... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-22-2004, 03:30 PM	#72
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	10. Udeze

03-22-2004, 03:46 PM	#75
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	11. Rivers

03-22-2004, 11:58 PM	#76
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Being it looks like we're still on pick 10, I'll say: 10. Chris Gamble

03-23-2004, 12:44 AM	#77
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	Just to be contrary 10. DeAngelo Hall __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

03-23-2004, 11:48 AM	#79
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	10 Udeze __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

03-23-2004, 11:50 AM	#80
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	11. Rivers

03-23-2004, 11:52 AM	#81
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	11. Rivers

03-23-2004, 11:53 AM	#83
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	That makes four votes for Rivers at 11.

03-23-2004, 11:55 AM	#85
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	12. Chris Gamble

03-23-2004, 11:56 AM	#86
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	12. Chris Gamble

03-23-2004, 11:57 AM	#87
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Hall - 2 Gamble -2

03-23-2004, 12:08 PM	#89
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	I actually thought they were going to go DE here, but Udeze got taken

03-23-2004, 12:46 PM	#91
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	After doing some reading, I'm changing my pick from Gamble to Hall, which gives him 3 votes.

03-23-2004, 12:50 PM	#93
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I think that Gamble is the overrated "top" prospect here. I also think that the Jets will pick him anyway. 1. San Diego Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi 2. Oakland Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa 3. Arizona Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami-Ohio 4. New York Giants Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh 5. Washington Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma 6. Detroit Sean Taylor, S, Miami 7. Cleveland Mike Williams, WR, USC 8. Atlanta Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami 9. Jacksonville Roy Williams, WR, Texas 10. Houston Kenichi Udeze, DE, USC 11. Pittsburgh Phillip Rivers, QB, NC State 12. New York Jets Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio State 13. Buffalo 14. Chicago 15. Tampa Bay 16. San Francisco 17. Cincinnati 18. New Orleans 19. Minnesota 20. Miami 21. New England (from Baltimore) 22. Dallas 23. Seattle 24. Denver 25. Green Bay 26. St. Louis 27. Tennessee 28. Philadelphia 29. Indianapolis 30. Kansas City 31. Carolina 32. New England

03-23-2004, 12:51 PM	#94
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	13. - DE Will Smith __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

03-23-2004, 12:55 PM	#95
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	13. Kellen Winslow

03-23-2004, 12:56 PM	#96
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	13. Will Smith

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