The Fiesta Bowl: (The What could have been game). - Page 2

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 07:51 PM

HOLY hell, the ND bias is in full swing when it comes to holding calls though. Their offensive line is gang raping the D-linemen and they aren't getting called for ANYTHING...gah.

MylesKnight · 01-02-2006, 07:52 PM

Don't care much for Oh-How I Spend So Much State, but I can't stand ND. They are the Duke Kzysechski's (or however you spell that) of College Football... You know, "On TV, more than Leave It To Beaver re-runs".. - Thank You Pete Gillen.

I believe this is the battle of the two biggest $$$$ spenders in College Football... Hey, based on that shouldn't these two be playing in the Title Game each year.

st.cronin · 01-02-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

HOLY hell, the ND bias is in full swing when it comes to holding calls though. Their offensive line is gang raping the D-linemen and they aren't getting called for ANYTHING...gah.

Notre Dame is actually allowed to hold. It's a special rule.

MylesKnight · 01-02-2006, 07:54 PM

This one should be decided already.. Hopefully OSU puts this one away early in quarter number four.

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MylesKnight

Don't care much for Oh-How I Spend So Much State, but I can't stand ND. They are the Duke Men's Hoops of College Football... You know, "On TV, more than Leave It To Beaver re-runs".. - Thank You Pete Gillen.

I believe this is the battle of the two biggest $$$$ spenders in College Football... Hey, based on that shouldn't these two be playing in the Title Game each year.

Not sure where you get this opinion of tOSU, the vast majority of their players come FROM Ohio, its not their fault that their home state is one of the greatest Football player creation machines in the country

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MylesKnight

This one should be decided already.. Hopefully OSU puts this one away early in quarter number four.

Very true, without the two first haolf turnovers this game could well have been 35-7 at the half and we'd all be playing Civ-IV by now

MylesKnight · 01-02-2006, 07:56 PM

I actually didn't have any feelings at all for OSU until the a certain M. Clarett made his way to Columbus.

OSU Football is a big spender though (and a big revenue producer as well might I add)... Just check the stats... They are consistenly #1 in this category.

Solecismic · 01-02-2006, 08:02 PM

Okay, so there's this chick who looks like the love child of Mick Jagger and Jennifer Love Hewitt they keep showing. As usual, I'm watching with the sound off. Who is this person? Charlie Weis' hairdresser?

mauchow · 01-02-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Okay, so there's this chick who looks like the love child of Mick Jagger and Jennifer Love Hewitt they keep showing. As usual, I'm watching with the sound off. Who is this person? Charlie Weis' hairdresser?

A.J. Hawks girlfriend/Quinn's sister... Weird huh?

JeeberD · 01-02-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Okay, so there's this chick who looks like the love child of Mick Jagger and Jennifer Love Hewitt they keep showing. As usual, I'm watching with the sound off. Who is this person? Charlie Weis' hairdresser?

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=45904

st.cronin · 01-02-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Okay, so there's this chick who looks like the love child of Mick Jagger and Jennifer Love Hewitt they keep showing. As usual, I'm watching with the sound off. Who is this person? Charlie Weis' hairdresser?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

Okay, so there's this chick who looks like the love child of Mick Jagger and Jennifer Love Hewitt they keep showing. As usual, I'm watching with the sound off. Who is this person? Charlie Weis' hairdresser?

that would be AJ Hawk's girlfriend, oh yeah, and Quinn's sister.

Galaxy · 01-02-2006, 08:07 PM

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A.J. Hawks girlfriend/Quinn's sister... Weird huh?

It's a fricken college relationship, not like they are married and all grownup. She's ugly, annoying and seems pretty snobby. Plus, I want to watch football, not Blind Date.

Solecismic · 01-02-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

A.J. Hawks girlfriend/Quinn's sister... Weird huh?

Okay, that's even dumber than the tennis people who thought it would be neat to constantly focus on Pete Sampras' fille du jour.

But tennis has steadily gotten more boring since they started allowing rackets the size of a billiard table, so at least I can understand the sentiment.

I thought maybe this chick had cured cancer, or was the next Lindsay Lohan. But no. She's boning a linebacker who wants to take her brother's head off. What drama!

JeeberD · 01-02-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

She's boning a linebacker...

She-male?

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

She-male?

Now now, just beacause Dallas sucks. its no reason to be bitter

st.cronin · 01-02-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Now now, just beacause Dallas sucks. its no reason to be bitter

He didn't sound bitter to me. He sounded EXCITED.

dawgfan · 01-02-2006, 08:21 PM

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Musberger is driving me crazy everytime he says "AJ Hock". It's HAWK, you nitwit. HAWWWWWWWWK.

I'd like to hear from a linguist on this, but I'm unclear what the actual difference in pronunciation is supposed to be between "hock" and "hawk". Where I'm from there is no difference.

What makes this even more confusing is checking the dictionary.com site and cross-referencing their pronunciation guide - they list as examples for the sound associated with "hawk" things such as caught, paw, for, horrid and hoarse. Where I come from, the first two examples sound different than the last three - "caught" and "paw" would be pronounced with the same kind of "ahhh" sound you make at a visit to the doctor ("stick out your tongue and say..."). In attempting to imagine how these words would be pronounced similar to "for", "horrid" and "hoarse" I'd have to pronounce "caught" and "paw" with a heavy New York accent, pursing my lips as I pronounce the vowels.

I managed to find this entry on Wikipedia discussing this issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cot-caught_merger

JeeberD · 01-02-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Now now, just beacause Dallas sucks. its no reason to be bitter

I just didn't realize that women could bone their boyfriends (unless a strap-on is involved, of course)...

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2006, 08:24 PM

That review will make that play a TD.

edit: and it is now indeed a TD.

kingfc22 · 01-02-2006, 08:24 PM

That's a TD

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:25 PM

Yeah, he stuck it out just barely enough.

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I just didn't realize that women could bone their boyfriends (unless a strap-on is involved, of course)...

This be true enough, I just gotta get my anti-cowboy agenda dealt with for the week

st.cronin · 01-02-2006, 08:33 PM

Somebody should really be fired for ever thinking Justin Zwick was better than Troy Smith. It took me about 2 series of watching Smith to conclude that he was in a totally different league.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2006, 08:34 PM

OSU got a way with a huge hold on that play.

kingfc22 · 01-02-2006, 08:34 PM

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:34 PM

Oh BABY!!!

kingfc22 · 01-02-2006, 08:35 PM

game over

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:35 PM

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 08:35 PM

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2006, 08:37 PM

Wow, the underrated Troy Smith really has played better during the 2nd half of the year. He's what a JR? Should be interesting to see if he declairs.

Quinn not coming up big in this game should hold off the Tom Brady comparisons until some point next year.

JW · 01-02-2006, 08:38 PM

Way to go, Buckeyes. Congratulations. And, btw, for all the talk ABC has been doing about Quinn, I would rather have the OSU QB on my side. Which takes nothing away from Quinn. He is a good one.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2006, 08:41 PM

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Way to go, Buckeyes. Congratulations. And, btw, for all the talk ABC has been doing about Quinn, I would rather have the OSU QB on my side. Which takes nothing away from Quinn. He is a good one.

Yeah, its good for ND fans out there, because this will pretty much make him come back for another year. If he blew up in this game, I could honestly see the NFL talent guys talking him into coming out this year. I think someone would take a chance on him in the top 10.

st.cronin · 01-02-2006, 08:45 PM

Congratulations Buckeye fans on winning the National Championship.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2006, 08:55 PM

Its a shame that PSU didn't get a chance to play a quality opponent in a bowl game this year. OSU is going to be perceved to be the better team in the Big 10 this year because of this win.

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

Its a shame that PSU didn't get a chance to play a quality opponent in a bowl game this year. OSU is going to be perceved to be the better team in the Big 10 this year because of this win.

tOSU IS the better team in the conference, tougher schedule, same record. We win

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

tOSU IS the better team in the conference, tougher schedule, same record. We win

Haha. Forget about head to head

RendeR · 01-02-2006, 09:58 PM

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Haha. Forget about head to head

Actually when you want to look at SoS you should ignore head to head games, yes PSU won their game, that doesn't make them a better team, it just means they won a single game, almost any team can win on any given day, I mean hell, even Mi-Shit-Gin won a few games this year

Ignoring the PSU-tOSU game you'll see that tOSU had a more difficult schedule and came out with the same record, so overall tOSU is the better "team" in the conference. nationally, PSU got one on us this year and gets the bigger bowl game against a shit opponent. Lets hope the Lions don't blow it down there =)

scooper · 01-03-2006, 09:30 AM

Well, that one sucked. But oh well, on to 2006. My thoughts:

Ohio St. was a better team. Quinn and the offense played well. Smith and company played better. Troy Smith has improved week by week all season. He is vastly underrated, but I can understand based on his slow start and his suspension for off the field issues. If he keeps his head on straight, he can be a great QB.

This one hurts, but ND finished 9-3 and had a shot to catch one of the best teams in the country near the end. Expectations have risen over the season, but if you had given me this option preseason, I would have gladly taken it.

Tressel's first team five years ago was not nearly as good as his group on the field last night. He has risen the talent level and execution level immensely. I'm not so sure last night's team couldn't have beaten their O2 team.

Weis is recruiting like a madman and the play on the field and level of execution, in spite of last night, is still night and day from the last couple years. ND was not as talented as Ohio St. If Charlie continues to recruit the way he has so far, that will change over the next couple years. I'm still excited about the future of ND's program.

Congrats Buckeye fans. You've got a good team. It's frustrating to lose to you, because even my Buckeye friends admit the asshole quotient among your fan base is larger than most and I'm sure I'll be hearing it. But, if you can walk the walk....

The lead in to this game was fun here in Ohio. I hope we can meet up again in a couple years for a title game.

biological warrior · 01-03-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by scooper

Well, that one sucked. But oh well, on to 2006. My thoughts:

Ohio St. was a better team. Quinn and the offense played well. Smith and company played better. Troy Smith has improved week by week all season. He is vastly underrated, but I can understand based on his slow start and his suspension for off the field issues. If he keeps his head on straight, he can be a great QB.

This one hurts, but ND finished 9-3 and had a shot to catch one of the best teams in the country near the end. Expectations have risen over the season, but if you had given me this option preseason, I would have gladly taken it.

Tressel's first team five years ago was not nearly as good as his group on the field last night. He has risen the talent level and execution level immensely. I'm not so sure last night's team couldn't have beaten their O2 team.

Weis is recruiting like a madman and the play on the field and level of execution, in spite of last night, is still night and day from the last couple years. ND was not as talented as Ohio St. If Charlie continues to recruit the way he has so far, that will change over the next couple years. I'm still excited about the future of ND's program.

Congrats Buckeye fans. You've got a good team. It's frustrating to lose to you, because even my Buckeye friends admit the asshole quotient among your fan base is larger than most and I'm sure I'll be hearing it. But, if you can walk the walk....

The lead in to this game was fun here in Ohio. I hope we can meet up again in a couple years for a title game.

Well said! As soon as the last of the Davie recruits on Defense leave ND should be a good team. Saw alot of poor tackling and missed opportunities on defense. Hats off to the Buckeyes and, their speed.

Mr. Wednesday · 01-03-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

Quinn not coming up big in this game should hold off the Tom Brady comparisons until some point next year.

Without seeing what was going on in the secondary, I have a hard time pinning the loss on Quinn. He's got to be at least third (and possibly lower) on my hit list.

(Edit: Not to mention, in his last meaningful series, he led the team to a TD to put them back into the game, but the ineptitude of the defense [or, if you prefer, the execution of the OSU offense] denied him a chance to tie the game.)

Mr. Wednesday · 01-03-2006, 05:48 PM

The biggest contrast to me was how the coaches reacted to the defensive performance in the first couple of series. ND continued to only rush four despite the lack of success with the tactic (failing to get pressure on Smith and predictably breaking down in the secondary when he had all day to throw). OSU started blitzing and stunting linebackers to create pressure. The results were predictable. Throw in ND having one adequate cover corner, and there you are...

I have to say that the game developed pretty much the way I feared it would -- like Syracuse and Tennessee, OSU had a good enough defense to slow down the ND offense; unlike the aforementioned teams, OSU had a good enough offense to exploit ND's defensive weaknesses and win the ballgame. The Buckeyes were certainly the worst matchup ND faced all season -- I don't know if I can say that they're a better team than SC, but they had fewer weaknesses the Irish were capable of exploiting than the Trojans.

scooper · 01-04-2006, 09:23 AM

I'm going to revisit the Brady Quinn topic after looking over the stats. The guy hit 64% of his passes and threw for 294 yards. Plus, he committed no turnovers. Quinn showed well in this game. His biggest mistakes, I think, were some sacks due to either indecision or good coverage downfield.

Honestly, I think Quinn had a better game than Weis. Why they got away from Walker on the draws is beyond me. I don't think that kid will ever be an every down NFL back, but he is the protypical NFL third down back. Great vision for draws, good receiver and capable blocker.

01-02-2006, 07:52 PM	#52
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	Don't care much for Oh-How I Spend So Much State, but I can't stand ND. They are the Duke Kzysechski's (or however you spell that) of College Football... You know, "On TV, more than Leave It To Beaver re-runs".. - Thank You Pete Gillen. I believe this is the battle of the two biggest $$$$ spenders in College Football... Hey, based on that shouldn't these two be playing in the Title Game each year. __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!! Last edited by MylesKnight : 01-02-2006 at 07:55 PM.

01-02-2006, 07:54 PM	#54
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	This one should be decided already.. Hopefully OSU puts this one away early in quarter number four. __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

01-02-2006, 07:56 PM	#57
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	I actually didn't have any feelings at all for OSU until the a certain M. Clarett made his way to Columbus. OSU Football is a big spender though (and a big revenue producer as well might I add)... Just check the stats... They are consistenly #1 in this category. __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

01-02-2006, 08:24 PM	#71
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	That's a TD __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-02-2006, 08:25 PM	#72
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Yeah, he stuck it out just barely enough. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-02-2006, 08:02 PM	#58
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Okay, so there's this chick who looks like the love child of Mick Jagger and Jennifer Love Hewitt they keep showing. As usual, I'm watching with the sound off. Who is this person? Charlie Weis' hairdresser?

01-02-2006, 08:33 PM	#74
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Somebody should really be fired for ever thinking Justin Zwick was better than Troy Smith. It took me about 2 series of watching Smith to conclude that he was in a totally different league. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-02-2006, 08:34 PM	#76
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Ugh __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-02-2006, 08:34 PM	#77
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Oh BABY!!! __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-02-2006, 08:35 PM	#78
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	game over __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	GAME __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

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RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	OVER __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

01-02-2006, 08:37 PM	#81
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Wow, the underrated Troy Smith really has played better during the 2nd half of the year. He's what a JR? Should be interesting to see if he declairs. Quinn not coming up big in this game should hold off the Tom Brady comparisons until some point next year.

01-02-2006, 08:38 PM	#82
JW College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Monroe, LA, USA	Way to go, Buckeyes. Congratulations. And, btw, for all the talk ABC has been doing about Quinn, I would rather have the OSU QB on my side. Which takes nothing away from Quinn. He is a good one.

01-02-2006, 08:45 PM	#84
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Congratulations Buckeye fans on winning the National Championship. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-02-2006, 08:55 PM	#85
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Its a shame that PSU didn't get a chance to play a quality opponent in a bowl game this year. OSU is going to be perceved to be the better team in the Big 10 this year because of this win.

01-03-2006, 09:30 AM	#89
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Well, that one sucked. But oh well, on to 2006. My thoughts: Ohio St. was a better team. Quinn and the offense played well. Smith and company played better. Troy Smith has improved week by week all season. He is vastly underrated, but I can understand based on his slow start and his suspension for off the field issues. If he keeps his head on straight, he can be a great QB. This one hurts, but ND finished 9-3 and had a shot to catch one of the best teams in the country near the end. Expectations have risen over the season, but if you had given me this option preseason, I would have gladly taken it. Tressel's first team five years ago was not nearly as good as his group on the field last night. He has risen the talent level and execution level immensely. I'm not so sure last night's team couldn't have beaten their O2 team. Weis is recruiting like a madman and the play on the field and level of execution, in spite of last night, is still night and day from the last couple years. ND was not as talented as Ohio St. If Charlie continues to recruit the way he has so far, that will change over the next couple years. I'm still excited about the future of ND's program. Congrats Buckeye fans. You've got a good team. It's frustrating to lose to you, because even my Buckeye friends admit the asshole quotient among your fan base is larger than most and I'm sure I'll be hearing it. But, if you can walk the walk.... The lead in to this game was fun here in Ohio. I hope we can meet up again in a couple years for a title game.

01-03-2006, 05:48 PM	#92
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	The biggest contrast to me was how the coaches reacted to the defensive performance in the first couple of series. ND continued to only rush four despite the lack of success with the tactic (failing to get pressure on Smith and predictably breaking down in the secondary when he had all day to throw). OSU started blitzing and stunting linebackers to create pressure. The results were predictable. Throw in ND having one adequate cover corner, and there you are... I have to say that the game developed pretty much the way I feared it would -- like Syracuse and Tennessee, OSU had a good enough defense to slow down the ND offense; unlike the aforementioned teams, OSU had a good enough offense to exploit ND's defensive weaknesses and win the ballgame. The Buckeyes were certainly the worst matchup ND faced all season -- I don't know if I can say that they're a better team than SC, but they had fewer weaknesses the Irish were capable of exploiting than the Trojans. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

01-04-2006, 09:23 AM	#93
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	I'm going to revisit the Brady Quinn topic after looking over the stats. The guy hit 64% of his passes and threw for 294 yards. Plus, he committed no turnovers. Quinn showed well in this game. His biggest mistakes, I think, were some sacks due to either indecision or good coverage downfield. Honestly, I think Quinn had a better game than Weis. Why they got away from Walker on the draws is beyond me. I don't think that kid will ever be an every down NFL back, but he is the protypical NFL third down back. Great vision for draws, good receiver and capable blocker.

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